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29th May '16 3:26:20 PM LondonKdS
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* The TropeCodifier is, of course, a certain notorious incident in the history of English Church-State relations in the twelfth century. [[UsefulNotes/HenryTheSecond Henry II]] was frustrated with Archbishop Thomas Becket, his former friend, and said something like (according to popular tradition) "Will no one rid me of this troublesome [or turbulent] priest?" or (according to a contemporary biographer) "What miserable drones and traitors have I nourished and brought up in my household, who let their lord be treated with such shameful contempt by a low-born cleric?" A couple of Mooks decided to take care of it themselves, by killing Becket. Henry II took it badly, as did many in England. The reason for Henry's frustration, namely Becket defying the wishes of the king who had nominated him [[note]]Henry II had been laying the foundations of the English legal system (which would, in its turn, become the foundation for the legal system of half the world). The Church objected to being expected, distinctly against the custom of the time, to obey national laws, in one of the pivotal clashes between church and state[[/note]], had alienated many who already regarded Henry as an outsider (neither an Englishman or even a Norman, but an ''Angevin'') who was subverting local custom and concentrating too much power in the central government. Becket's personal popularity and the fact that he was discovered to be wearing a hairshirt under his clothing (a rather serious act of asceticism, as hairshirts are about as comfortable as a shirt made of sandpaper) only added to the outrage that a high clergyman had been openly murdered in a church; Henry had to perform public penance over the issue and Becket rapidly became St. Thomas.

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* The TropeCodifier is, of course, a certain notorious incident in the history of English Church-State relations in the twelfth century. [[UsefulNotes/HenryTheSecond Henry II]] was frustrated with Archbishop Thomas Becket, his former friend, and said something like (according to popular tradition) "Will no one rid me of this troublesome [or turbulent] priest?" or (according to a contemporary biographer) "What miserable drones and traitors have I nourished and brought up in my household, who let their lord be treated with such shameful contempt by a low-born cleric?" A couple of Mooks decided to take care of it themselves, by killing Becket. Henry II took it badly, as did many in England. The reason for Henry's frustration, namely Becket defying the wishes of the king who had nominated him [[note]]Henry II had been laying the foundations of the English legal system (which would, in its turn, become the foundation for the legal system of half the world). The Church objected to being expected, distinctly against the custom of the time, to obey national laws, in one of the pivotal clashes between church and state[[/note]], had alienated many who already regarded Henry as an outsider (neither an Englishman or even a Norman, but an ''Angevin'') who was subverting local custom and concentrating too much power in the central government. Becket's personal popularity and the fact that he was discovered to be wearing a hairshirt under his clothing (a rather serious act of asceticism, as hairshirts are about as comfortable as a shirt made of sandpaper) only added to the outrage that a high clergyman the national leader of the Church had been openly murdered savagely and shamelessly hacked to death in front of a church; church altar; Henry had to perform public penance over the issue and Becket rapidly became St. Thomas.
29th May '16 3:25:01 PM LondonKdS
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* [[UsefulNotes/HenryTheSecond Henry II]] was frustrated with Archbishop Thomas Becket, his former friend, and said something like (according to popular tradition) "Will no one rid me of this troublesome [or turbulent] priest?" or (according to a contemporary biographer) "What miserable drones and traitors have I nourished and brought up in my household, who let their lord be treated with such shameful contempt by a low-born cleric?" A couple of Mooks decided to take care of it themselves, by killing Becket. Henry II took it badly, as did many in England. The reason for Henry's frustration, namely Becket defying the wishes of the king who had nominated him [[note]]Henry II had been laying the foundations of the English legal system (which would, in its turn, become the foundation for the legal system of half the world). The Church objected to being expected, distinctly against the custom of the time, to obey national laws, in one of the pivotal clashes between church and state[[/note]], had alienated many who already regarded Henry as an outsider (neither an Englishman or even a Norman, but an ''Angevin'') who was subverting local custom and concentrating too much power in the central government. Becket's personal popularity and the fact that he was discovered to be wearing a hairshirt under his clothing (a rather serious act of asceticism, as hairshirts are about as comfortable as a shirt made of sandpaper) only added to the outrage that a high clergyman had been openly murdered in a church; Henry had to perform public penance over the issue and Becket rapidly became St. Thomas.

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* The TropeCodifier is, of course, a certain notorious incident in the history of English Church-State relations in the twelfth century. [[UsefulNotes/HenryTheSecond Henry II]] was frustrated with Archbishop Thomas Becket, his former friend, and said something like (according to popular tradition) "Will no one rid me of this troublesome [or turbulent] priest?" or (according to a contemporary biographer) "What miserable drones and traitors have I nourished and brought up in my household, who let their lord be treated with such shameful contempt by a low-born cleric?" A couple of Mooks decided to take care of it themselves, by killing Becket. Henry II took it badly, as did many in England. The reason for Henry's frustration, namely Becket defying the wishes of the king who had nominated him [[note]]Henry II had been laying the foundations of the English legal system (which would, in its turn, become the foundation for the legal system of half the world). The Church objected to being expected, distinctly against the custom of the time, to obey national laws, in one of the pivotal clashes between church and state[[/note]], had alienated many who already regarded Henry as an outsider (neither an Englishman or even a Norman, but an ''Angevin'') who was subverting local custom and concentrating too much power in the central government. Becket's personal popularity and the fact that he was discovered to be wearing a hairshirt under his clothing (a rather serious act of asceticism, as hairshirts are about as comfortable as a shirt made of sandpaper) only added to the outrage that a high clergyman had been openly murdered in a church; Henry had to perform public penance over the issue and Becket rapidly became St. Thomas.
25th Apr '16 10:37:06 PM ValdarSai
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** Similarly, after a pair of guards fall asleep while guarding an important figure, Cersei Lannister sarcastically says they should be allowed to sleep. They're killed shortly later after this is interpreted as a kill order.
11th Apr '16 8:04:49 PM MyFinalEdits
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* The [[WesternAnimation/LooneyTunes Warner Bros.]] cartoon "The Hardships Of Miles Standish" has an elderly gentleman telling the story of Miles' courtship of Priscilla in pilgrim days to his grandson. He tops it with "If that ain't the truth, I hope I get struck by lightning!" He does, and as he's singed, clinging to a beam from the roof, [[NoFourthWall he turns to us]] and says "Well, anyway, that's the way ''I'' heard it!"
** ". . . that's the way ''I'' heard it" is, in fact, a ShoutOut to the then popular radio sitcom ''Radio/FibberMcGeeAndMolly. OncePerEpisode, a character called the "Old Timer" would show up. His CatchPhrase? "That's ''not'' the way I heard it!"

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* The [[WesternAnimation/LooneyTunes Warner Bros.]] cartoon "The Hardships Of Miles Standish" has an elderly gentleman telling the story of Miles' courtship of Priscilla in pilgrim days to his grandson. He tops it with "If that ain't the truth, I hope I get struck by lightning!" He does, and as he's singed, clinging to a beam from the roof, [[NoFourthWall he turns to us]] and says "Well, anyway, that's the way ''I'' heard it!"
** ". . . that's the way ''I'' heard it" is,
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11th Apr '16 4:08:25 PM johnsmithxxi
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** ". . . that's the way ''I'' heard it" is, in fact, a ShoutOut to the then popular radio sitcom ''Radio/FibberMcGeeAndMolly. OncePerEpisode, a character called the "Old Timer" would show up. His CatchPhrase? "That's ''not'' the way I heard it!"
15th Mar '16 2:17:33 PM Tahaneira
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* A rare positive example from [[LoonyFan Conrad Verner]] of all people ''VideoGame/MassEffect3'' (if you did the prerequisite sidequests [[OldSaveBonus in the first game):

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* A rare positive example from [[LoonyFan Conrad Verner]] of all people ''VideoGame/MassEffect3'' (if you did the prerequisite sidequests [[OldSaveBonus in the first game):game]]):
15th Mar '16 2:17:16 PM Tahaneira
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* A rare positive example from [[LoonyFan Conrad Verner]] of all people ''VideoGame/MassEffect3'' (if you did the prerequisite sidequests [[OldSaveBonus in the first game):
-->'''Conrad:''' But maybe I can help you with... whatever it is you're doing now that isn't with Cerberus.\\
'''Shepard:''' [exasperated] Conrad, I'm building an ancient, Prothean, dark energy device to stop the Reapers. Can you help with ''that''?\\
'''Conrad:''' [[BunnyEarsLawyer Well, I did write my doctoral dissertation on xenotechnology and dark energy integration.]]\\
'''Shepard:''' [[{{Beat}} [long pause]]] ... [[SarcasmFailure Really?]]
15th Mar '16 5:24:57 AM TrustBen
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* In the ''WesternAnimation/BobsBurgers'' episode "Sacred Couch", Bob and Louise want to get rid of a smelly old sofa Linda loves, while the other two Belcher children support their mother. Bob casually tells Louise that he's sure something will happen to the couch because accidents happen. Louise, of course, takes this as an invitation to sabotage the couch.
2nd Feb '16 8:48:55 AM Kartoonkid95
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* In ''FanFic/WhyAmICrying'', Apple Bloom wishes on shooting star and for something bad to happen to her enemy Diamond Tiara. However, instead of something like a prank or bad luck, Diamond gets killed in a carriage accident, leading Apple Bloom to [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone go on a massive guilt trip]]. [[spoiler: Subverted when she finds out that Diamond died before the time she made the wish.]]
23rd Jan '16 6:31:57 PM AdamC
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* In ''Film/TheShining'', Jack is feeling the effects of his alcohol withdrawal as the months wear on, and after stumbling into the (emptied out) hotel bar, puts his face in his hands. He bitterly mumbles out, "I'd sell my Goddamn soul for just a glass of beer..." and looks up to see his old bartender Lloyd standing behind the counter. Lloyd immediately begins supplying Jack with alcohol, after which point he becomes deranged and violent toward his family.
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