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* ''Anime/KujibikiUnbalance'' (the first iteration) only had three episodes produced, spaced at random points along the nonexistant series. Despite that, there was a clip show back to episodes that never happened and next episode previews for episodes that also didn't happen.

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* ''Anime/KujibikiUnbalance'' (the first iteration) only had three episodes produced, spaced at random points along the nonexistant nonexistent series. Despite that, there was a clip show ClipShow back to episodes that never happened and next episode previews for episodes that also didn't happen.



* A classic example from Marvel is ComicBook/{{Cable}}, who was created in the 1980s, but as soon as he was introduced he was written into history and characters acted like they had known him forever. TimeTravel was heavily involved, explaining why this was the case for him.

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* A classic example from Marvel is ComicBook/{{Cable}}, who was created in the 1980s, but as soon as he was introduced he was written into history and [[RememberTheNewGuy characters acted like they had known him forever.forever]]. TimeTravel was heavily involved, explaining why this was the case for him.



* The ''Widowmaker'' series established that the Ronin [[LegacyCharacter identity previously held]] by Maya Lopez and [[ComicBook/{{Hawkeye}} Clint Barton]] was originated by a Japanese nationalist during World War 2. [[PlotHole Exactly how nobody knew this is never actually explained....]]

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* The ''Widowmaker'' ''ComicBook/{{Widowmaker}}'' series established that the Ronin [[LegacyCharacter identity previously held]] by Maya Lopez and [[ComicBook/{{Hawkeye}} Clint Barton]] was originated by a Japanese nationalist during World War 2.UsefulNotes/WorldWarII. [[PlotHole Exactly how nobody knew this is never actually explained....]]



* Creator/AlanMoore also wrote the ''Judgment Day'' mini-series for AwesomeComics. The series deals with a metacommentary of the notion of retcons to super-hero histories as Alan Moore himself creates a new backstory for the characters of Awesome Comics, to replace the shared universe they left when Rob Liefeld left Image several years earlier.
* Greg Rucka's 2000s ''ComicBook/{{Checkmate}}'' series introduced a legacy character of the World War II heroine Mademoiselle Marie, and revealed that the original Marie was in fact just one in a long long of Maries dating back to at least the French Revolution.
* Volton was an obscure hero from UsefulNotes/TheGoldenAgeOfComicBooks who never had a clear origin. After becoming a PublicDomainCharacter, Marvel included him in the 90's ''[[ComicBook/TheInvaders Invaders]]'' mini-series, where it was established that Volton was an android created by the same inventor responsible for the Human Torch and TheVision.

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* Creator/AlanMoore ** Moore also wrote the ''Judgment Day'' mini-series for AwesomeComics. The series deals with a metacommentary of the notion of retcons to super-hero histories as Alan Moore himself creates a new backstory for the characters of Awesome Comics, to replace the shared universe they left when Rob Liefeld left Image Creator/ImageComics several years earlier.
* Greg Rucka's Creator/GregRucka's 2000s ''ComicBook/{{Checkmate}}'' series introduced a legacy character of the World War II heroine Mademoiselle Marie, and revealed that the original Marie was in fact just one in a long long of Maries dating back to at least the French Revolution.
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* Volton was an obscure hero from UsefulNotes/TheGoldenAgeOfComicBooks who never had a clear origin. After becoming a PublicDomainCharacter, Marvel included him in the 90's ''[[ComicBook/TheInvaders Invaders]]'' mini-series, where it was established that Volton was an android created by the same inventor responsible for the Human Torch and TheVision.ComicBook/TheVision.



* Creator/GrantMorrison introduced a new Shining Knight in ''ComicBook/SevenSoldiers'', Sir Ystin, who heralded from the ur-Camelot that would establish the recurring cycle of Arthurian legend, and became the template for Sir Justin, the Shining Knight of a later era.

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* Creator/GrantMorrison introduced a new Shining Knight in ''ComicBook/SevenSoldiers'', Sir Ystin, who heralded from the ur-Camelot that would establish the recurring cycle of Arthurian [[Myth/KingArthur Arthurian]] legend, and became the template for Sir Justin, the Shining Knight of a later era.



** Similar to the Red Circle examples below, Creator/EdBrubaker's ''Comicbook/SecretAvengers'' run established that the Prince of Orphans had been one of ComicBook/CaptainAmerica's allies during WorldWar2.

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** Similar to the Red Circle examples below, Creator/EdBrubaker's ''Comicbook/SecretAvengers'' run established that the Prince of Orphans had been one of ComicBook/CaptainAmerica's allies during WorldWar2.UsefulNotes/WorldWarII.



** When James Robinson wrote ''ComicBook/{{Starman}}'', DC had six characters by that name, only two of whom had any connection: Ted Knight; the 1950s Starman (who was actually Batman in a story that had been {{Retcon}}ned away); Mikaal Tomas; Prince Gavyn of Throneworld; Will Peyton; and Ted's son David Knight. Robinson created Ted's younger son Jack as "his" Starman, and forged connections between all the above characters, some of whom turned out to be the same people.

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** When James Robinson wrote ''ComicBook/{{Starman}}'', DC had six characters by that name, only two of whom had any connection: Ted Knight; the 1950s Starman (who was actually Batman Franchise/{{Batman}} in a story that had been {{Retcon}}ned away); Mikaal Tomas; Prince Gavyn of Throneworld; Will Peyton; and Ted's son David Knight. Robinson created Ted's younger son Jack as "his" Starman, and forged connections between all the above characters, some of whom turned out to be the same people.



** From the 90's onward, it's been canon that during {{World War 2}}, ComicBook/CaptainAmerica had encountered and fought alongside a past Black Panther (who DependingOnTheWriter, was either T'Challa's father or grandfather). During their very first meeting back in UsefulNotes/{{the Silver Age|of Comic Books}}, Cap made no such mention of having ever encountered another Black Panther, and indeed it was very clear that he had never set foot in Wakanda before that point. Creator/{{Christopher Priest|Comics}} justified it a bit by having Cap claim that the mission where he met the previous Black Panther was classified, and thus he was forbidden to speak of it.

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** From the 90's onward, it's been canon that during {{World War 2}}, UsefulNotes/WorldWarII, ComicBook/CaptainAmerica had encountered and fought alongside a past Black Panther (who DependingOnTheWriter, was either T'Challa's father or grandfather). During their very first meeting back in UsefulNotes/{{the Silver Age|of Comic Books}}, Cap made no such mention of having ever encountered another Black Panther, and indeed it was very clear that he had never set foot in Wakanda before that point. Creator/{{Christopher Priest|Comics}} [[JustifiedTrope justified it a bit bit]] by having Cap claim that the mission where he met the previous Black Panther was classified, and thus he was forbidden to speak of it.



* When DC licensed the Red Circle heroes from ArchieComics, they retroactively inserted the Hangman into DC's [[UsefulNotes/TheGoldenAgeOfComicBooks Golden Age]] during the 1940's. In his backup feature, it was established that Hangman had shared adventures with [[ComicBook/SandmanMysteryTheatre Wesley Dodds' Sandman]].

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* When DC licensed the Red Circle heroes from ArchieComics, Franchise/ArchieComics, they retroactively inserted the Hangman into DC's [[UsefulNotes/TheGoldenAgeOfComicBooks Golden Age]] during the 1940's. In his backup feature, it was established that Hangman had shared adventures with [[ComicBook/SandmanMysteryTheatre Wesley Dodds' Sandman]].



* Similarly, the very first issue of ''Marvel Team-Up'' had a scene where Spider-Man saved a young woman from being mugged on Christmas Eve. A much later issue by Creator/ChrisClaremont established that the woman was actually Misty Knight.

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* Similarly, the very first issue of ''Marvel Team-Up'' had a scene where Spider-Man ComicBook/SpiderMan saved a young woman from being mugged on Christmas Eve. A much later issue by Creator/ChrisClaremont established that the woman was actually Misty Knight.



* When the [[Creator/MilestoneComics Milestone]] heroes were integrated into DC's continuity, it was established that ComicBook/{{Icon}} was now an old friend of ComicBook/{{Superman}}. It was also mentioned that ComicBook/{{Hardware}} knew ComicBook/BlueBeetle, and this throwaway line would later form the basis for an issue of ''ComicBook/TheBraveAndTheBold''. ''Milestone Forever'' took this a step further, hinting at past team-ups between ComicBook/{{Static}} and ComicBook/WonderWoman and Blitzen and ComicBook/TheFlash.

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* When the [[Creator/MilestoneComics Milestone]] heroes were integrated into DC's continuity, it was established that ComicBook/{{Icon}} was now an old friend of ComicBook/{{Superman}}.Franchise/{{Superman}}. It was also mentioned that ComicBook/{{Hardware}} knew ComicBook/BlueBeetle, and this throwaway line would later form the basis for an issue of ''ComicBook/TheBraveAndTheBold''. ''Milestone Forever'' took this a step further, hinting at past team-ups between ComicBook/{{Static}} and ComicBook/WonderWoman and Blitzen and ComicBook/TheFlash.



** The original miniseries was predicated upon the notion that Los Angeles had, since the 1980s, been ruled by a secret cabal made up of seven families. The explanation for why they had never previously been mentioned is that everyone else was too afraid of them.

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** The original miniseries was predicated upon the notion that Los Angeles UsefulNotes/LosAngeles had, since the 1980s, been ruled by a secret cabal made up of seven families. The explanation for why they had never previously been mentioned is that everyone else was too afraid of them.



** The last arc of the third series revealed that Chase had an uncle who he had long believed dead. Apparently, because of his MultipleChoicePast, he'd completely forgot about him.

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** The last arc of the third series revealed that Chase had an uncle who he had long believed dead. Apparently, because of his MultipleChoicePast, he'd completely forgot forgotten about him.



** In ''ComicBook/AForce'', Nico is revealed to have a whole bunch of surviving relatives in Japan; it's explained that she'd never previously sought them out because they'd disowned her branch of the family.

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** In ''ComicBook/AForce'', Nico is revealed to have a whole bunch of surviving relatives in Japan; UsefulNotes/{{Japan}}; it's explained that she'd never previously sought them out because they'd disowned her branch of the family.



* ''WesternAnimation/ToyStory2'' established Woody as a valuable antique cowboy doll who used to be the star of an old merchandise driven show called Woody's Roundup.
* ''Disney/WreckItRalph'' follows two characters of that (fictional) smash-hit arcade game from 1983, "Fix-It Felix Jr.". Apparently the game was so legendary, [[PacManFever Buckner & Garcia]] made a song about it. Also, the fact that there's a "Jr." in the name can lead one to assume there was a more primitive "Fix-It Felix" game that predated this one.

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* ''WesternAnimation/ToyStory2'' established Woody as a valuable antique cowboy doll who used to be the star of an old merchandise driven MerchandiseDriven show called Woody's Roundup.
''Woody's Roundup''.
* ''Disney/WreckItRalph'' follows two characters of that (fictional) smash-hit arcade game from 1983, "Fix-It ''Fix-It Felix Jr.".''. Apparently the game was so legendary, [[PacManFever Buckner & Garcia]] made a song about it. Also, the fact that there's a "Jr." in the name can lead one to assume there was a more primitive "Fix-It Felix" game that predated this one.



* The first three ''StarWars'' films began with Episode IV-VI, suggesting an epic series. It wasn't until much later that episodes I through III were created.
** The first prints of Episode IV, however, did not have the "Episode IV" in the opening title crawl.

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* The first three ''StarWars'' ''Franchise/StarWars'' films began with Episode IV-VI, suggesting an epic series. It wasn't until much later that episodes I through III were created.
** The However, the first prints of [[Film/ANewHope Episode IV, however, IV]] did not have the "Episode IV" in the opening title crawl.crawl, probably because it was too soon to know if there would ever be a sequel.



* The book ''Literature/ThePrincessBride'' pretends to be an abridgement of an older book of the same name written by the fictitious author "S. Morgenstern". Remember those parts in the movie where they cut back to the grandpa reading the book to his grandson Fred Savage? WilliamGoldman, the writer, "abridged" the book [[BlatantLies based on memories of being read the original by his father]], and equivalents to those scenes are present in the real life novel as footnotes and forewords. The book actually had its roots in something Goldman made up for his two daughters as a bed time story.

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* The book ''Literature/ThePrincessBride'' pretends to be an abridgement of an older book of the same name written by the fictitious author "S. Morgenstern". Remember those parts in the movie where they cut back to the grandpa reading the book to his grandson Fred Savage? WilliamGoldman, Creator/WilliamGoldman, the writer, "abridged" the book [[BlatantLies based on memories of being read the original by his father]], and equivalents to those scenes are present in the real life novel as footnotes and forewords. The book actually had its roots in something Goldman made up for his two daughters as a bed time story.



* ''Trent's Last Case'' is actually the first novel featuring PhilipTrent.

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* ''Trent's Last Case'' is actually the first novel featuring PhilipTrent.Literature/PhilipTrent.



* ''Jimmy [=MacDonald's=] Canada'' is a {{Mockumentary}} about a [[NewsParody Fake Pundit Show]] that took place back in the 60's, and starred a stereotypical ultra-conserative man, who was railing against technological innovation and youth culture. The show ended when [=MacDonald=] had a nervous breakdown on TV, made off with all the tapes from the episodes, flew off to parts unknown, but died in a plane crash. Some of the episodes have recently turned up, and the mockumentary features eight episodes of what was supposedly a weekly program that ran for years.

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* ''Jimmy [=MacDonald's=] [=MacDonald=]'s Canada'' is a {{Mockumentary}} about a [[NewsParody Fake Pundit Show]] that took place back in the 60's, and starred a stereotypical ultra-conserative man, [[StrawCharacter ultra-conserative]] who was railing railed against technological innovation and youth culture. The show ended when [=MacDonald=] had a nervous breakdown on TV, made off with all the tapes from the episodes, flew off to parts unknown, but died in a plane crash. Some of the episodes have recently turned up, and the mockumentary features eight episodes of what was supposedly a weekly program that ran for years.



* BruceWillis's ''The Return of Bruno'' was his debut album.

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* BruceWillis's Creaqtor/BruceWillis's ''The Return of Bruno'' was his debut album.



* British wigger-rap parody act Goldie-Lookin' Chain called their first album "Greatest Hits", accompanied by an album cover showing the participants sat in shop doorways holding cardboard signs saying "Will Rap For Food" to imply that they'd been spectacularly famous and successful before a CreatorBreakdown and/or massive substance abuse. This turned out to be rather prophetic in a meta sort of way, because after releasing three singles and [[OneHitWonder getting one of them into the Top 40]] they sank without a trace.
** Their gimmick (as seen in interviews, and on their pre-fame demo [=CDs=]) was that they had apparently been going since 1983 - ie, over 20 years. It's true that they'd released 6 albums (starting in 2001) before their major label album in 2004, but that's only 3 years. It didn't help that their follow up album was called Safe As F**k, meaning that it got no radio or TV promotion.
* Alien Ant Farm also called their first album Greatest Hits, although the strange thing is that it includes early versions of Smooth Criminal (called Slick Thief), Movies and These Days, all of which were singles when re-recorded for the albums ANThology and TruANT respectively. The former two were their biggest hits, and (outside of fans), Alien Ant Farm are basically only remembered for them these days.
* When ChrisJericho started a heavy metal cover band, Fozzy, as a side project, they introduced themselves as being the real writers of the songs they were covering, with the story that a crappy recording contract had them and their trapped in Japan for decades. Jericho himself performed using the stage name "Moongoose McQueen", and insisted that he wasn't Jericho, but that Jericho was just another guy ripping him off. (Eventually the gimmick was dropped, as ironically the band started recording well-received original material and spends much time touring real metal festivals now. Jericho is a widely respected metal frontman now, as well as a main event pro wrestling star.)

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* British wigger-rap [[UsefulNotes/{{Wales}} Welsh]] rap parody act Goldie-Lookin' Chain called their first album "Greatest Hits", ''Greatest Hits'', accompanied by an album cover showing the participants sat in shop doorways holding cardboard signs saying "Will Rap For Food" to imply that they'd been spectacularly famous and successful before a CreatorBreakdown and/or massive substance abuse. This turned out to be rather prophetic in a meta sort of way, because after releasing three singles and [[OneHitWonder getting one of them into the Top 40]] they sank without a trace.
** Their gimmick (as seen in interviews, and on their pre-fame demo [=CDs=]) was that they had apparently been going since 1983 - ie, over 20 years. It's true that they'd released 6 albums (starting in 2001) before their major label album in 2004, but that's only 3 years. It didn't help that their follow up album was called Safe ''Safe As F**k, F**k'', meaning that it got no radio or TV promotion.
* Alien Ant Farm also called their first album Greatest Hits, ''Greatest Hits'', although the strange thing is that it includes early versions of Smooth Criminal "Smooth Criminal" (called Slick Thief), Movies "Slick Thief"), "Movies" and These Days, "These Days", all of which were singles when re-recorded for the albums ANThology ''[=ANThology=]'' and TruANT ''[=TruANT=]'' respectively. The former two were their biggest hits, and (outside of fans), Alien Ant Farm are basically only remembered for them these days.
* When ChrisJericho started a heavy metal cover band, Fozzy, as a side project, they introduced themselves as being the real writers of the songs they were covering, with the story that a crappy recording contract had them and their trapped in Japan for decades. Jericho himself performed using the stage name "Moongoose McQueen", [=McQueen=]", and insisted that he wasn't Jericho, but that Jericho was just another guy ripping him off. (Eventually the gimmick was dropped, as ironically the band started recording well-received original material and spends much time touring real metal festivals now. Jericho is a widely respected metal frontman now, as well as a main event pro wrestling star.)



* ''RetroGameChallenge'' presents an entire alternate 1980s game industry, complete with magazines.

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* ''RetroGameChallenge'' ''VideoGame/RetroGameChallenge'' presents an entire alternate 1980s game industry, complete with magazines.



* The DS game ''DarkVoid Zero'' claims in its promotional material to be a game developed in the 80s by Capcom for a "revolutionary" yet ultimately scrapped arcade system with two screens. The game then eventually was used as the basis of the upcoming PC and console game ''DarkVoid'' and thus Capcom has decided to "re-release" the "original" as a DS title.

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* The DS game ''DarkVoid ''VideoGame/DarkVoid Zero'' claims in its promotional material to be a game developed in the 80s by Capcom for a "revolutionary" yet ultimately scrapped arcade system with two screens. The game then eventually was used as the basis of the upcoming PC and console game ''DarkVoid'' ''Dark Void'' and thus Capcom has decided to "re-release" the "original" as a DS title.



* In ''MerryGearSolid 2'', the synopsis of the game ''Merry Gear'' is available in the Previous Operations section of the menu, and the plot is referenced in the game's story. The game never actually existed.

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* In ''MerryGearSolid ''VideoGame/MerryGearSolid 2'', the synopsis of the game ''Merry Gear'' is available in the Previous Operations section of the menu, and the plot is referenced in the game's story. The game never actually existed.



** ''Animaniacs'' character Slappy Squirrel was supposed to be a cranky old semi-retired cartoon character from Bugs Bunny's heyday. Why the Warners hadn't aged a day since their supposed debut in the 20s while Slappy had aged considerably since her supposed debut in the 40s ... um, [[FridgeLogic clean living]]?

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** ''Animaniacs'' character Slappy Squirrel was supposed to be a cranky old semi-retired cartoon character from Bugs Bunny's WesternAnimation/BugsBunny's heyday. Why the Warners hadn't aged a day since their supposed debut in the 20s while Slappy had aged considerably since her supposed debut in the 40s ... um, [[FridgeLogic clean living]]?



*** It may also be a nod to a ''TinyToonAdventures'' episode exploring the nature of toons ala Roger Rabbit. It was an episode where Babs Bunny was seeking out old cartoon stars Bosco and Honey so they could be her mentors, and in the process learned that laughter is what keeps a toon young. The Slappy Squirrel episode "Critical Condition" suggests that no one has laughed at Slappy in a long time.

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*** It may also be a nod to a ''TinyToonAdventures'' ''WesternAnimation/TinyToonAdventures'' episode exploring the nature of toons ala [[Film/WhoFramedRogerRabbit Roger Rabbit.Rabbit]]. It was an episode where Babs Bunny was seeking out old cartoon stars Bosco and Honey so they could be her mentors, and in the process learned that laughter is what keeps a toon young. The Slappy Squirrel episode "Critical Condition" suggests that no one has laughed at Slappy in a long time.
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** The ''Comicbook/NewAvengers'' tie-in to ''ComicBook/AvengersVsXMen'' revolved around Fongji Wu, a female, [[SignificantGreenEyedRedHead mixed-race]] Iron Fist that had managed to harness the [[ComicBook/TheDarkPhoenixSaga Phoenix Force]] long before Jean Grey was even born.
* Circa 2009, writer Jason Aaron revealed that the Comicbook/{{Ghost Rider}}s aren't the only Spirits of Vengeance. The British model draws from Spring-Heeled Jack, the German model closely resembles [[Literature/DerStruwwelpeter Shock-Headed Peter]], and the Japanese one is a ''bosozoku'' with an oni-like appearance. There have been Spirits of Vengeance for every culture and every era; the American Spirits alone number in the dozens (which explains the original GR being a cowboy all clad in white), and when the Vikings first landed in North America they found a Spirit of Vengeance protecting the shore.

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** The ''Comicbook/NewAvengers'' ''ComicBook/NewAvengers'' tie-in to ''ComicBook/AvengersVsXMen'' revolved around Fongji Wu, a female, [[SignificantGreenEyedRedHead mixed-race]] Iron Fist that had managed to harness the [[ComicBook/TheDarkPhoenixSaga Phoenix Force]] long before Jean Grey was even born.
* Circa 2009, writer Jason Aaron revealed that the Comicbook/{{Ghost ComicBook/{{Ghost Rider}}s aren't the only Spirits of Vengeance. The British model draws from Spring-Heeled Jack, the German model closely resembles [[Literature/DerStruwwelpeter Shock-Headed Peter]], and the Japanese one is a ''bosozoku'' with an oni-like appearance. There have been Spirits of Vengeance for every culture and every era; the American Spirits alone number in the dozens (which explains the original GR being a cowboy all clad in white), and when the Vikings first landed in North America they found a Spirit of Vengeance protecting the shore.



* In the 70's, it was stated that the Human Torch from the ''Comicbook/FantasticFour'' had taken his name from the original [[UsefulNotes/TheGoldenAgeOfComicBooks Golden Age]] Human Torch, whom he was a big fan of. This had never been brought up before in any other comic, and in fact, when the Human Torch met his Golden Age counterpart back in the 60's, he seemed to have absolutely no idea who the hell he was.
* Marvel again: The series ''ComicBook/{{Alias}}'' introduced Comicbook/JessicaJones, who had a backstory of being a C- or D-list superhero before retiring as a private detective. As with Cable, she's now treated as if she was active back in UsefulNotes/TheBronzeAgeOfComicBooks -- and indeed [[Comicbook/SpiderMan Peter Parker's]] high school classmate in UsefulNotes/TheSilverAgeOfComicBooks.[[note]]According to {{Retcon}}, her first appearance is in ''Amazing Spider-Man'' #4, as a random student appearing in one panel.[[/note]]
* The ''Widowmaker'' series established that the Ronin [[LegacyCharacter identity previously held]] by Maya Lopez and [[Comicbook/{{Hawkeye}} Clint Barton]] was originated by a Japanese nationalist during World War 2. [[PlotHole Exactly how nobody knew this is never actually explained....]]

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* In the 70's, it was stated that the Human Torch from the ''Comicbook/FantasticFour'' ''ComicBook/FantasticFour'' had taken his name from the original [[UsefulNotes/TheGoldenAgeOfComicBooks Golden Age]] Human Torch, whom he was a big fan of. This had never been brought up before in any other comic, and in fact, when the Human Torch met his Golden Age counterpart back in the 60's, he seemed to have absolutely no idea who the hell he was.
* Marvel again: The series ''ComicBook/{{Alias}}'' introduced Comicbook/JessicaJones, ComicBook/JessicaJones, who had a backstory of being a C- or D-list superhero before retiring as a private detective. As with Cable, she's now treated as if she was active back in UsefulNotes/TheBronzeAgeOfComicBooks -- and indeed [[Comicbook/SpiderMan [[ComicBook/SpiderMan Peter Parker's]] high school classmate in UsefulNotes/TheSilverAgeOfComicBooks.[[note]]According to {{Retcon}}, her first appearance is in ''Amazing Spider-Man'' #4, as a random student appearing in one panel.[[/note]]
* The ''Widowmaker'' series established that the Ronin [[LegacyCharacter identity previously held]] by Maya Lopez and [[Comicbook/{{Hawkeye}} [[ComicBook/{{Hawkeye}} Clint Barton]] was originated by a Japanese nationalist during World War 2. [[PlotHole Exactly how nobody knew this is never actually explained....]]



* Volton was an obscure hero from UsefulNotes/TheGoldenAgeOfComicBooks who never had a clear origin. After becoming a PublicDomainCharacter, Marvel included him in the 90's ''[[Comicbook/TheInvaders Invaders]]'' mini-series, where it was established that Volton was an android created by the same inventor responsible for the Human Torch and TheVision.

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* Volton was an obscure hero from UsefulNotes/TheGoldenAgeOfComicBooks who never had a clear origin. After becoming a PublicDomainCharacter, Marvel included him in the 90's ''[[Comicbook/TheInvaders ''[[ComicBook/TheInvaders Invaders]]'' mini-series, where it was established that Volton was an android created by the same inventor responsible for the Human Torch and TheVision.



* Creator/GrantMorrison introduced a new Shining Knight in ''Comicbook/SevenSoldiers'', Sir Ystin, who heralded from the ur-Camelot that would establish the recurring cycle of Arthurian legend, and became the template for Sir Justin, the Shining Knight of a later era.

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* Creator/GrantMorrison introduced a new Shining Knight in ''Comicbook/SevenSoldiers'', ''ComicBook/SevenSoldiers'', Sir Ystin, who heralded from the ur-Camelot that would establish the recurring cycle of Arthurian legend, and became the template for Sir Justin, the Shining Knight of a later era.



* Happened to Comicbook/TheSpectre in the John Ostrander series, who was given a history that stretched back into Literature/TheBible and the earliest days of Creation.
* DCComics occasionally assembles a legacy from previously-unrelated characters.

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* Happened to Comicbook/TheSpectre ComicBook/TheSpectre in the John Ostrander series, who was given a history that stretched back into Literature/TheBible and the earliest days of Creation.
* DCComics Creator/DCComics occasionally assembles a legacy from previously-unrelated characters.



** When James Robinson wrote ''Comicbook/{{Starman}}'', DC had six characters by that name, only two of whom had any connection: Ted Knight; the 1950s Starman (who was actually Batman in a story that had been {{Retcon}}ned away); Mikaal Tomas; Prince Gavyn of Throneworld; Will Peyton; and Ted's son David Knight. Robinson created Ted's younger son Jack as "his" Starman, and forged connections between all the above characters, some of whom turned out to be the same people.
** There was also the original Comicbook/{{Manhunter}}, who thanks to a retcon, first became a superhero after encountering the Manhunter androids (who in real life had been introduced four decades after Kirk initally debuted). Later, it was established those androids took their name from the Manhunters from Mars, as seen in the pages of ComicBook/MartianManhunter.

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** When James Robinson wrote ''Comicbook/{{Starman}}'', ''ComicBook/{{Starman}}'', DC had six characters by that name, only two of whom had any connection: Ted Knight; the 1950s Starman (who was actually Batman in a story that had been {{Retcon}}ned away); Mikaal Tomas; Prince Gavyn of Throneworld; Will Peyton; and Ted's son David Knight. Robinson created Ted's younger son Jack as "his" Starman, and forged connections between all the above characters, some of whom turned out to be the same people.
** There was also the original Comicbook/{{Manhunter}}, ComicBook/{{Manhunter}}, who thanks to a retcon, first became a superhero after encountering the Manhunter androids (who in real life had been introduced four decades after Kirk initally debuted). Later, it was established those androids took their name from the Manhunters from Mars, as seen in the pages of ComicBook/MartianManhunter.



* When DC licensed the Red Circle heroes from ArchieComics, they retroactively inserted the Hangman into DC's [[UsefulNotes/TheGoldenAgeOfComicBooks Golden Age]] during the 1940's. In his backup feature, it was established that Hangman had shared adventures with [[Comicbook/SandmanMysteryTheatre Wesley Dodds' Sandman]].
* Creator/FrankMiller's ''Comicbook/{{Daredevil}}: Man Without Fear'' mini-series established that during one of his first vigilante outings, Matt had accidentally killed a teenage prostitute by knocking her out of a window. The later 1997 ''Daredevil[=/=]{{Deadpool}} Annual'' {{Retconned}} the girl into being a young Typhoid Mary, who had actually survived the fall and developed a SplitPersonality as a result.

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* When DC licensed the Red Circle heroes from ArchieComics, they retroactively inserted the Hangman into DC's [[UsefulNotes/TheGoldenAgeOfComicBooks Golden Age]] during the 1940's. In his backup feature, it was established that Hangman had shared adventures with [[Comicbook/SandmanMysteryTheatre [[ComicBook/SandmanMysteryTheatre Wesley Dodds' Sandman]].
* Creator/FrankMiller's ''Comicbook/{{Daredevil}}: ''ComicBook/{{Daredevil}}: Man Without Fear'' mini-series established that during one of his first vigilante outings, Matt had accidentally killed a teenage prostitute by knocking her out of a window. The later 1997 ''Daredevil[=/=]{{Deadpool}} Annual'' {{Retconned}} the girl into being a young Typhoid Mary, who had actually survived the fall and developed a SplitPersonality as a result.



* When the [[MilestoneComics Milestone]] heroes were integrated into DC's continuity, it was established that ComicBook/{{Icon}} was now an old friend of ComicBook/{{Superman}}. It was also mentioned that Comicbook/{{Hardware}} knew Comicbook/BlueBeetle, and this throwaway line would later form the basis for an issue of ''ComicBook/TheBraveAndTheBold''. ''Milestone Forever'' took this a step further, hinting at past team-ups between Comicbook/{{Static}} and ComicBook/WonderWoman and Blitzen and Comicbook/TheFlash.
* ''Comicbook/TheLeagueOfExtraordinaryGentlemen'' often features this, but the most obvious example is Campion Bond, who is introduced as a heretofore unknown ancestor of Franchise/JamesBond, demonstrating that careers are genetically transmitted in the LOEG-verse.

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* When the [[MilestoneComics [[Creator/MilestoneComics Milestone]] heroes were integrated into DC's continuity, it was established that ComicBook/{{Icon}} was now an old friend of ComicBook/{{Superman}}. It was also mentioned that Comicbook/{{Hardware}} ComicBook/{{Hardware}} knew Comicbook/BlueBeetle, ComicBook/BlueBeetle, and this throwaway line would later form the basis for an issue of ''ComicBook/TheBraveAndTheBold''. ''Milestone Forever'' took this a step further, hinting at past team-ups between Comicbook/{{Static}} ComicBook/{{Static}} and ComicBook/WonderWoman and Blitzen and Comicbook/TheFlash.
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* ''Comicbook/TheLeagueOfExtraordinaryGentlemen'' ''ComicBook/TheLeagueOfExtraordinaryGentlemen'' often features this, but the most obvious example is Campion Bond, who is introduced as a heretofore unknown ancestor of Franchise/JamesBond, demonstrating that careers are genetically transmitted in the LOEG-verse.
17th Mar '16 8:47:18 AM woodwardiocom
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* Marvel again: The series ''ComicBook/{{Alias}}'' introduced Comicbook/JessicaJones, who had a backstory of being a C- or D-list superhero before retiring as a private detective. As with Cable, she's now treated as if she was active back in UsefulNotes/TheBronzeAgeOfComicBooks -- and indeed [[Comicbook/SpiderMan Peter Parker's]] high school classmate in UsefulNotes/TheSilverAgeOfComicBooks.[[note]]According to {{Retcon}}, her first appearance is in ''Amazing Spider-Man'' #4, as a random student appearing in one panel.[[/note]] Interestingly, the original plan was to have ''Alias'' feature an existing heroine, Comicbook/SpiderWoman.

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* Marvel again: The series ''ComicBook/{{Alias}}'' introduced Comicbook/JessicaJones, who had a backstory of being a C- or D-list superhero before retiring as a private detective. As with Cable, she's now treated as if she was active back in UsefulNotes/TheBronzeAgeOfComicBooks -- and indeed [[Comicbook/SpiderMan Peter Parker's]] high school classmate in UsefulNotes/TheSilverAgeOfComicBooks.[[note]]According to {{Retcon}}, her first appearance is in ''Amazing Spider-Man'' #4, as a random student appearing in one panel.[[/note]] Interestingly, the original plan was to have ''Alias'' feature an existing heroine, Comicbook/SpiderWoman.[[/note]]
5th Mar '16 7:54:29 PM nombretomado
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** Similar to the Red Circle examples below, Creator/EdBrubaker's ''Comicbook/SecretAvengers'' run established that the Prince of Orphans had been one of CaptainAmerica's allies during WorldWar2.

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** Similar to the Red Circle examples below, Creator/EdBrubaker's ''Comicbook/SecretAvengers'' run established that the Prince of Orphans had been one of CaptainAmerica's ComicBook/CaptainAmerica's allies during WorldWar2.
8th Feb '16 8:50:29 PM StrixObscuro
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* FrankMiller's ''Comicbook/{{Daredevil}}: Man Without Fear'' mini-series established that during one of his first vigilante outings, Matt had accidentally killed a teenage prostitute by knocking her out of a window. The later 1997 ''Daredevil / {{Deadpool}} Annual'' {{Retconned}} the girl into being a young Typhoid Mary, who had actually survived the fall and developed a SplitPersonality as a result.
* Similarly, the very first issue of ''Marvel Team-Up'' had a scene where Spider-Man saved a young woman from being mugged on Christmas Eve. A much later issue by ChrisClaremont established that the woman was actually Misty Knight.
* Years after DC gained the characters Judomaster and Tiger thanks to a buy-out of CharltonComics, the two were retconned into being members of the ComicBook/AllStarSquadron, despite never actually appearing in that series.

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* FrankMiller's Creator/FrankMiller's ''Comicbook/{{Daredevil}}: Man Without Fear'' mini-series established that during one of his first vigilante outings, Matt had accidentally killed a teenage prostitute by knocking her out of a window. The later 1997 ''Daredevil / {{Deadpool}} ''Daredevil[=/=]{{Deadpool}} Annual'' {{Retconned}} the girl into being a young Typhoid Mary, who had actually survived the fall and developed a SplitPersonality as a result.
* Similarly, the very first issue of ''Marvel Team-Up'' had a scene where Spider-Man saved a young woman from being mugged on Christmas Eve. A much later issue by ChrisClaremont Creator/ChrisClaremont established that the woman was actually Misty Knight.
* Years after DC gained the characters Judomaster and Tiger thanks to a buy-out of CharltonComics, Creator/CharltonComics, the two were retconned into being members of the ComicBook/AllStarSquadron, despite never actually appearing in that series.



* ValiantComics's Rai is a title passed down to several characters powered by the Blood of Heroes, with the current Rai existing in 41st century.

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* ValiantComics's Creator/ValiantComics's Rai is a title passed down to several characters powered by the Blood of Heroes, with the current Rai existing in 41st century.


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* ''ComicBook/{{Runaways}}'' has pulled this a few times:
** The original miniseries was predicated upon the notion that Los Angeles had, since the 1980s, been ruled by a secret cabal made up of seven families. The explanation for why they had never previously been mentioned is that everyone else was too afraid of them.
** The first issue of the second series introduced the Excavator, the never-before-mentioned teenaged son of Wrecking Crew member Shoveler.
** The "Dead-End Kids" arc revolves around a lost generation of "Wonders" who were active in the early 20th century, several decades before any of Marvel's known heroes, including a witch who was Nico's ancestor, an even more dogmatic precursor to ComicBook/ThePunisher, and a cannibalistic gangster who may have been connected to ComicBook/TheKingpin.
** The last arc of the third series revealed that Chase had an uncle who he had long believed dead. Apparently, because of his MultipleChoicePast, he'd completely forgot about him.
** ''ComicBook/{{Daken}}: Dark Wolverine'' revealed that there was, in fact, an ''eighth'' member of the Pride, the HumanoidAbomination Marcus Roston, but he was kicked out after the Steins caught him literally hovering over Chase's bed while he slept.
** In ''ComicBook/AForce'', Nico is revealed to have a whole bunch of surviving relatives in Japan; it's explained that she'd never previously sought them out because they'd disowned her branch of the family.
8th Feb '16 7:48:32 PM PaulA
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* The novelization of the 1984 movie ''TheAdventuresOfBuckarooBanzaiAcrossTheEighthDimension'' presents itself as merely the latest in a long series of "Buckaroo Banzai" books, and makes [[ContinuityNod frequent reference]] to the titles and events of the alleged previous volumes, such as ''Bastardy Proved a Spur''.

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* The novelization of the 1984 movie ''TheAdventuresOfBuckarooBanzaiAcrossTheEighthDimension'' ''Film/TheAdventuresOfBuckarooBanzaiAcrossThe8thDimension'' presents itself as merely the latest in a long series of "Buckaroo Banzai" books, and makes [[ContinuityNod frequent reference]] to the titles and events of the alleged previous volumes, such as ''Bastardy Proved a Spur''.
20th Jan '16 9:42:01 PM jormis29
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* Creator/AlanMoore's first issue of ''{{Supreme}}'' was a tribute to the many versions of the character who had been published since his first appearance in the 1930s, all of which Moore had just made, save the Grim [[UsefulNotes/TheDarkAgeOfComicBooks Dark Age]] Supreme Creator/RobLiefeld had originally created.

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* Creator/AlanMoore's first issue of ''{{Supreme}}'' ''ComicBook/{{Supreme}}'' was a tribute to the many versions of the character who had been published since his first appearance in the 1930s, all of which Moore had just made, save the Grim [[UsefulNotes/TheDarkAgeOfComicBooks Dark Age]] Supreme Creator/RobLiefeld had originally created.
12th Jan '16 6:37:53 PM comicwriter
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** From the 90's onward, it's been canon that during {{World War 2}}, ComicBook/CaptainAmerica had encountered and fought alongside a past Black Panther (who DependingOnTheWriter, was either T'Challa's father, or his grandfather). During their very first meeting back in UsefulNotes/{{the Silver Age|of Comic Books}}, Cap made no such mention of having ever encountered another Black Panther, and indeed it was very clear that he had never set foot in Wakanda before that point.

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** From the 90's onward, it's been canon that during {{World War 2}}, ComicBook/CaptainAmerica had encountered and fought alongside a past Black Panther (who DependingOnTheWriter, was either T'Challa's father, father or his grandfather). During their very first meeting back in UsefulNotes/{{the Silver Age|of Comic Books}}, Cap made no such mention of having ever encountered another Black Panther, and indeed it was very clear that he had never set foot in Wakanda before that point. Creator/{{Christopher Priest|Comics}} justified it a bit by having Cap claim that the mission where he met the previous Black Panther was classified, and thus he was forbidden to speak of it.
25th Dec '15 6:57:18 PM nombretomado
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* Marvel again: The series ''ComicBook/{{Alias}}'' introduced Comicbook/JessicaJones, who had a backstory of being a C- or D-list superhero before retiring as a private detective. As with Cable, she's now treated as if she was active back in UsefulNotes/TheBronzeAgeOfComicBooks -- and indeed [[Comicbook/SpiderMan Peter Parker's]] high school classmate in TheSilverAgeOfComicBooks.[[note]]According to {{Retcon}}, her first appearance is in ''Amazing Spider-Man'' #4, as a random student appearing in one panel.[[/note]] Interestingly, the original plan was to have ''Alias'' feature an existing heroine, Comicbook/SpiderWoman.

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* Marvel again: The series ''ComicBook/{{Alias}}'' introduced Comicbook/JessicaJones, who had a backstory of being a C- or D-list superhero before retiring as a private detective. As with Cable, she's now treated as if she was active back in UsefulNotes/TheBronzeAgeOfComicBooks -- and indeed [[Comicbook/SpiderMan Peter Parker's]] high school classmate in TheSilverAgeOfComicBooks.UsefulNotes/TheSilverAgeOfComicBooks.[[note]]According to {{Retcon}}, her first appearance is in ''Amazing Spider-Man'' #4, as a random student appearing in one panel.[[/note]] Interestingly, the original plan was to have ''Alias'' feature an existing heroine, Comicbook/SpiderWoman.



** From the 90's onward, it's been canon that during {{World War 2}}, CaptainAmerica had encountered and fought alongside a past Black Panther (who DependingOnTheWriter, was either T'Challa's father, or his grandfather). During their very first meeting back in the SilverAge, Cap made no such mention of having ever encountered another Black Panther, and indeed it was very clear that he had never set foot in Wakanda before that point.

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** From the 90's onward, it's been canon that during {{World War 2}}, CaptainAmerica ComicBook/CaptainAmerica had encountered and fought alongside a past Black Panther (who DependingOnTheWriter, was either T'Challa's father, or his grandfather). During their very first meeting back in the SilverAge, UsefulNotes/{{the Silver Age|of Comic Books}}, Cap made no such mention of having ever encountered another Black Panther, and indeed it was very clear that he had never set foot in Wakanda before that point.



* The Creator/ImageComics character ComicBook/{{Shadowhawk}} named himself after UsefulNotes/{{the Silver Age|of Comic Books}} Shadow-Hawk, a parody of SilverAge Franchise/{{Batman}}, whose [[KidSidekick teenaged son]] Squirrel would [[FaceHeelTurn go on to become]] Shadowhawk's EvilCounterpart, Hawk's Shadow. Eventually it would be revealed that there was a line of Shadowhawks going back to AncientEgypt.

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* The Creator/ImageComics character ComicBook/{{Shadowhawk}} named himself after UsefulNotes/{{the Silver Age|of Comic Books}} Shadow-Hawk, a parody of SilverAge [[UsefulNotes/TheSilverAgeOfComicBooks Silver Age]] Franchise/{{Batman}}, whose [[KidSidekick teenaged son]] Squirrel would [[FaceHeelTurn go on to become]] Shadowhawk's EvilCounterpart, Hawk's Shadow. Eventually it would be revealed that there was a line of Shadowhawks going back to AncientEgypt.
14th Nov '15 4:01:40 PM nombretomado
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* Creator/AlanMoore's first issue of ''{{Supreme}}'' was a tribute to the many versions of the character who had been published since his first appearance in the 1930s, all of which Moore had just made, save the Grim [[UsefulNotes/TheDarkAgeOfComicBooks Dark Age]] Supreme RobLiefeld had originally created.

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* Creator/AlanMoore's first issue of ''{{Supreme}}'' was a tribute to the many versions of the character who had been published since his first appearance in the 1930s, all of which Moore had just made, save the Grim [[UsefulNotes/TheDarkAgeOfComicBooks Dark Age]] Supreme RobLiefeld Creator/RobLiefeld had originally created.
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