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4th May '18 6:51:51 PM comicwriter
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** The Comicbook/IronMan limited series ''Iron Man: Legacy'' revealed that Pride had actually clashed with Comicbook/TheIlluminati several years prior to the events of ''Runaways''. Realizing the extent of the Pride's influence (meaning they would likely avoid any jail time), Tony essentially offered Geoffrey Wilder a truce, promising to keep their existence a secret in exchange for them withdrawing from a neighborhood that had come under his protection.

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** The Comicbook/IronMan limited series ''Iron Man: Legacy'' revealed that the Pride had actually clashed with Comicbook/TheIlluminati several years prior to the events of ''Runaways''. Realizing the extent of the Pride's influence (meaning they would likely avoid any jail time), Tony essentially offered Geoffrey Wilder a truce, promising to keep their existence a secret in exchange for them withdrawing from a neighborhood that had come under his protection.
2nd May '18 9:27:49 AM narm00
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* The title of Black Knight has been held by Sir Percy, who may have been the Otherworld king Gwyn ap Nudd in disguise, serving in King Arthur's court in the 6th century. The title went to Sir Raston in the Dark Ages, Sir Eobar during the Crusades, Sir William during World War I, and the swashbuckler Sir Henry. Though Sir Percy was considered the first Black Knight, there were eight other Black Knights prior to Sir Percy, including King Arthur's cousin Sir Reginald.

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* The In the Marvel Universe, the title of Black Knight has been held by Sir Percy, who may have been the Otherworld king Gwyn ap Nudd in disguise, serving in King Arthur's court in the 6th century. The title went to Sir Raston in the Dark Ages, Sir Eobar during the Crusades, Sir William during World War I, and the swashbuckler Sir Henry. Though Sir Percy was considered the first Black Knight, there were eight other Black Knights prior to Sir Percy, including King Arthur's cousin Sir Reginald.



** ''ComicBook/ImmortalIronFist'' also established that Amazing-Man ([[IHaveManyNames AKA the Prince of Orphans]]), a [[UsefulNotes/TheGoldenAgeOfComicBooks Golden Age]] superhero who had previously been owned by a rival company, was one of the Immortal Weapons.
*** Similar to the Red Circle examples below, Creator/EdBrubaker's ''Comicbook/SecretAvengers'' run established that the Prince of Orphans had been one of ComicBook/CaptainAmerica's allies during UsefulNotes/WorldWarII.



* Aaron's ''Comicbook/TheMightyThor'' run revealed that many centuries ago, a young Thor was part of a group of proto-[[Comicbook/TheAvengers Avengers]] that included the aforementioned Native American Spirit of Vengeance, a female Comicbook/BlackPanther, the then-current queen of Atlantis (implied to be [[Comicbook/SubMariner Namor]]'s ancestor), and Bodolf the Black, a [[Comicbook/TheIncredibleHulk Hulk]]-like Viking warrior.

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* Aaron's ''Comicbook/TheMightyThor'' run revealed that many centuries ago, a young Thor was part of a group of proto-[[Comicbook/TheAvengers Avengers]] that included the aforementioned Native American Spirit of Vengeance, a female Comicbook/BlackPanther, the then-current queen of Atlantis (implied to be [[Comicbook/SubMariner Namor]]'s ancestor), and Bodolf the Black, a [[Comicbook/TheIncredibleHulk [[Comicbook/IncredibleHulk Hulk]]-like Viking warrior.



* ''ComicBook/ImmortalIronFist'' established that Amazing-Man ([[IHaveManyNames AKA the Prince of Orphans]]), a [[UsefulNotes/TheGoldenAgeOfComicBooks Golden Age]] superhero who had previously been owned by a rival company, was one of the Immortal Weapons.
** Similar to the Red Circle examples below, Creator/EdBrubaker's ''Comicbook/SecretAvengers'' run established that the Prince of Orphans had been one of ComicBook/CaptainAmerica's allies during UsefulNotes/WorldWarII.



* ''Strange Tales'' #75 from 1960 featured a story about a scientist who built a HumongousMecha called the Hulk ([[NamesTheSame no relation]] to the [[Comicbook/TheIncredibleHulk big green guy]]). When the story was reprinted in ''Tomb of Darkness'' #22 sixteen years later, the scientist's lab assistant was {{Retcon}}ned into being a young [[Comicbook/AntMan Hank Pym]].

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* ''Strange Tales'' #75 from 1960 featured a story about a scientist who built a HumongousMecha called the Hulk ([[NamesTheSame no relation]] to the [[Comicbook/TheIncredibleHulk [[Comicbook/IncredibleHulk big green guy]]). When the story was reprinted in ''Tomb of Darkness'' #22 sixteen years later, the scientist's lab assistant was {{Retcon}}ned into being a young [[Comicbook/AntMan Hank Pym]].



* Creator/ValiantComics's Rai is a title passed down to several characters powered by the Blood of Heroes, with the current Rai existing in 41st century.

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* Creator/ValiantComics's Rai is a title passed down to several characters powered by the Blood of Heroes, with the current Rai existing in the 41st century.



* ''Comicbook/{{Avengers}} 1959'' was a 2011 miniseries in which Comicbook/NickFury assembled a team combining surviving Golden Age heroes (Comicbook/Blonde Phantom, Namora) and more modern characters with long backstories (Comicbook/{{Sabretooth}}, Ulysses Bloodstone, Kraven the Hunter, Comicbook/SilverSable and Dominic Fortune).

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* ''Comicbook/{{Avengers}} 1959'' was a 2011 miniseries in which Comicbook/NickFury assembled a team combining surviving Golden Age heroes (Comicbook/Blonde (Blonde Phantom, Namora) and more modern characters with long backstories (Comicbook/{{Sabretooth}}, Ulysses Bloodstone, Kraven the Hunter, Comicbook/SilverSable and Dominic Fortune).



* The All-New, All-Different ComicBook/XMen were preceded by a team consisting of Darwin, Petra, Sway, and the third Summers brother, Gabriel "Kid Vulcan" Summers. Before the original X-Men, Wolverine formed a team that could be considered the first X-Men team.

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* The ''X-Men: Deadly Genesis'' revealed the All-New, All-Different ComicBook/XMen were preceded by a team consisting of Darwin, Petra, Sway, and the third Summers brother, Gabriel "Kid Vulcan" Summers. Summers.
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Before the original X-Men, Wolverine formed a team that could be considered the first X-Men team.



* ''Comicbook/AvengersNoSurrender'' introduces Voyager, who was supposedly a founding Avenger and served with the team until she was wiped from existence during their first fight with the Squadron Sinister (the explanation of this even has a NoteFromEd giving the issue it would have happened in). In an even more meta twist, the same happened to the Squadron member she was fighting, Victory the Electromagnetic Man, who in keeping with the Squadron being {{Captain Ersatz}}es to the Silver Age Justice League, is blatantly Triumph (above)!

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* ''Comicbook/AvengersNoSurrender'' introduces Voyager, who was supposedly a founding Avenger and served with the team until she was wiped from existence during their first fight with the Squadron Sinister (the explanation of this even has a NoteFromEd giving the issue it would have happened in). In an even more meta twist, the same happened to the Squadron member she was fighting, Victory the Electromagnetic Man, who in keeping with the Squadron being {{Captain Ersatz}}es to the Silver Age Justice League, is blatantly Triumph (above)!(above)! [[spoiler:As it turns out, this is actually an invoked trope; in reality, Voyager's the daughter of the Elder of the Universe known as the Grandmaster, and inserted herself into the Avengers' memories.]]



* ''Disney/WreckItRalph'' follows two characters of that (fictional) smash-hit arcade game from 1983, ''Fix-It Felix Jr.''. Apparently the game was so legendary, [[PacManFever Buckner & Garcia]] made a song about it. Also, the fact that there's a "Jr." in the name can lead one to assume there was a more primitive "Fix-It Felix" game that predated this one.

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* ''Disney/WreckItRalph'' follows two characters of that (fictional) smash-hit arcade game from 1983, ''Fix-It Felix Jr.''. Apparently the game was so legendary, [[PacManFever [[Music/PacManFever Buckner & Garcia]] made a song about it. Also, the fact that there's a "Jr." in the name can lead one to assume there was a more primitive "Fix-It Felix" game that predated this one.



* When Wrestling/ChrisJericho started a heavy metal cover band, Fozzy, as a side project, they introduced themselves as being the real writers of the songs they were covering, with the story that a crappy recording contract had them and their trapped in Japan for decades. Jericho himself performed using the stage name "Moongoose [=McQueen=]", and insisted that he wasn't Jericho, but that Jericho was just another guy ripping him off. (Eventually the gimmick was dropped, as ironically the band started recording well-received original material and spends much time touring real metal festivals now. Jericho is a widely respected metal frontman now, as well as a main event pro wrestling star.)

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* When Wrestling/ChrisJericho started a heavy metal cover band, Fozzy, as a side project, they introduced themselves as being the real writers of the songs they were covering, with the story that a crappy recording contract had them and their trapped in Japan for decades. Jericho himself performed using the stage name "Moongoose [=McQueen=]", and insisted that he wasn't Jericho, but that Jericho was just another guy ripping him off. (Eventually the gimmick was dropped, as ironically the band started recording well-received original material and spends much time touring real metal festivals now. Jericho is a widely respected metal frontman now, as well as a main event pro wrestling star.)



** The [[IAmNotShazam Warner Brothers and Warner Sister]] ''themselves'', as well- they were old-timey cartoon characters locked up because they were too wacky.

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** The [[IAmNotShazam Warner Brothers and Warner Sister]] ''themselves'', as well- well - they were old-timey cartoon characters locked up because they were too wacky.
27th Feb '18 3:46:35 PM Pinokio
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* The title of Black Knight has held by Sir Percy, who may have been the Otherworld king Gwyn ap Nudd in disguise, serving in King Arthur's court in the 6th century, then Sir Raston in the Dark Ages, Sir Eobar during the Crusades, Sir William during World War I, and the swashbuckler Sir Henry. Though Sir Percy was considered the first Black Knight, there were eight other Black Knights prior to Sir Percy, including King Arthur's cousin Sir Reginald.

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* The title of Black Knight has been held by Sir Percy, who may have been the Otherworld king Gwyn ap Nudd in disguise, serving in King Arthur's court in the 6th century, then century. The title went to Sir Raston in the Dark Ages, Sir Eobar during the Crusades, Sir William during World War I, and the swashbuckler Sir Henry. Though Sir Percy was considered the first Black Knight, there were eight other Black Knights prior to Sir Percy, including King Arthur's cousin Sir Reginald.
23rd Jan '18 12:00:25 PM DaibhidC
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* ''Comicbook/AvengersNoSurrender'' introduces Voyager, who was supposedly a founding Avenger and served with the team until she was wiped from existence during their first fight with the Squadron Sinister (the explanation of this even has a NoteFromEd giving the issue it would have happened in). In an even more meta twist, the same happened to the Squadron member she was fighting, Victory the Electromagnetic Man, who in keeping with the Squadron being {{Captain Ersatz}}es to the Silver Age Justice League, is blatantly Triumph (above)!
16th Jan '18 9:40:46 PM comicwriter
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* ''Avengers Spotlight'' #7 established that the nameless Tibetan lama who'd empowered Doctor Druid way back in ''Amazing Adventures'' #1 was actually the Ancient One, Comicbook/DoctorStrange's future mentor. What's more, the Ancient One confessed that he only gave Druid his powers in the first place to make sure the process was safe enough to use on Strange years later, meaning Druid was basically an in-universe test run for Strange.
31st Dec '17 8:13:42 AM Pinokio
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* ''VideoGame/SonicAdventure'' and ''VideoGame/SonicChronicles'' reveal the existence of the ancient Echidna clans. Knuckles is a descendant of the Knuckles Tribe or Knuckles Clan.
29th Nov '17 7:33:50 PM Pinokio
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* ''Comicbook/MarvelComicsPresents'' #61-62 reveals the ComicBook/ScarletWitch had a 16th century ancestor, Red Lucy.


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* Franchise/{{Wolverine}} was once considered the first Weapon X, until Weapon X was revealed to be one of several projects in Weapon Plus. Others have been rectroactively introduced as part of the Weapon X/Project X program.
* The All-New, All-Different ComicBook/XMen were preceded by a team consisting of Darwin, Petra, Sway, and the third Summers brother, Gabriel "Kid Vulcan" Summers. Before the original X-Men, Wolverine formed a team that could be considered the first X-Men team.
* ''ComicBook/XMen'' stories set in the 18th-19th century will often introduce ancestors of the modern characters, often connected to the Hellfire Club.
27th Nov '17 6:31:13 PM Pinokio
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* The ''ComicBook/{{Thunderbolts}}'' specials ''Avengers/Thunderbolts'' and ''Thunderbolts Presents Zemo - Born Better'' reveal Heinrich and Helmut Zemo, the Silver Age and Modern Age Baron Zemo, are the twelfth and thirteenth to carry the title Baron Zemo.
23rd Nov '17 2:25:34 PM Pinokio
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* The title of Black Knight has held by Sir Percy, who may have been the Otherworld king Gwyn ap Nudd in disguise, serving in King Arthur's court in the 6th century, then Sir Raston in the Dark Ages, Sir Eobar during the Crusades, Sir William during World War I, and the swashbuckler Sir Henry. Though Sir Percy was considered the first Black Knight, there were eight other Black Knights prior to Sir Percy, including King Arthur's cousin Sir Reginald.
* Steve Rogers was not the only ''ComicBook/CaptainAmerica''. In the 18th century, there was a revolutionary war hero, Steven Rogers, who could be the prototypical Captain America. When the 1940's Super Soldier program began human experimentation, similar to the Tuskegee Experiments, Isaiah Bradley survived to become Captain America before Steve Rogers. When Steve Rogers was frozen in the Arctic Circle, William Nasland, the Spirit of '76, took on the role of Captain America, followed by Jeff Mace. Fred Davis took on the role of Bucky during both of their careers. William Burnside was the Captain America of the 1950's, with Jack Monroe as Bucky, later known as Nomad.
* ''ComicBook/{{Excalibur}}'' #48 establishes Feron's ancestor as a host of the Phoenix Force, prior to Jean Grey.
19th Nov '17 1:40:05 PM DaibhidC
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* ''Comicbook/{{Avengers}} 1959'' was a 2011 miniseries in which Comicbook/NickFury assembled a team combining surviving Golden Age heroes (Comicbook/Blonde Phantom, Namora) and more modern characters with long backstories (Comicbook/{{Sabretooth}}, Ulysses Bloodstone, Kraven the Hunter, Comicbook/SilverSable and Dominic Fortune).
* Since ComicBookTime means the "modern" Avengers were always founded "about ten years ago", the ''Comicbook/MightyAvengers2013'' chapter of the ''Comicbook/OriginalSin'' crossover finds space for another previous incarnation with an incredibly Seventies team lead by Comicbook/LukeCage's dad and including Comicbook/BlueMarvel, obscure Silver Age mystic Kaluu, the Bear (created for a [[Comicbook/IronMan Howard Stark]] flashback the previous year), IntrepidReporter Constance Molina, and Comicbook/{{Blade}} (in his [[Comicbook/TheTombOfDracula original]] yellow open shirt and green wraparound shades look).
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