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10th Jun '18 5:10:58 PM TheNerfGuy
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Of course, it's hard to write stories about people who don't exist, so regardless of the intensity, there is normally at least one person who [[RippleEffectProofMemory remembers the disappeared character's life]]. Mostly, this will be someone close to the character, such as a friend or family member (and it's often just one person) who will do their best to find evidence, while convincing themselves and others that they're [[ThroughTheEyesOfMadness not crazy]].

This plot has three levels of intensity:

* '''Mild:''' Records of the character's existence are destroyed, leaving no physical evidence of his birth or activities. Memories of the character still exist. This is technically possible in the real world, and if said character is personally behind the plot, it usually only goes this far.
* '''Serious:''' Not only is physical existence destroyed, but scientific and/or supernatural forces affect the memories of other characters, who can no longer remember that character. The character - if alive - remembers, and there may be a few others that do (usually including the orchestrators of the plot) but nobody else. A self-induced retcon may cause this in extreme cases.
* '''Extreme:''' The character has been utterly erased from existence, due to either a {{Time Travel}}er or some sort of supernatural force having altered the past to prevent his birth. The only ones who may remember the character are (possibly) whoever is responsible, and if anyone else does, it's due to some out-of-the-ordinary ability or intervention. This form of self-induced retcon is ''very'' rare, and often counts as a HeroicSacrifice taken UpToEleven.

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Of course, it's hard to write stories about people who don't exist, so regardless of the intensity, there is normally at least one person who [[RippleEffectProofMemory remembers the disappeared character's life]]. Mostly, this will be someone close to the character, such as a friend or family member (and it's often just one person) who will do their best to find evidence, while convincing themselves and others that they're [[ThroughTheEyesOfMadness not crazy]].

This plot has three levels of intensity:

* '''Mild:''' Records of the character's existence are destroyed, leaving no physical evidence of his birth or activities. Memories of the character still exist. This is technically possible in the real world, and if said character is personally behind the plot, it usually only goes this far.
* '''Serious:''' Not only is physical existence destroyed, but scientific and/or supernatural forces affect the memories of other characters, who can no longer remember that character. The character - if alive - remembers, and there may be a few others that do (usually including the orchestrators of the plot) but nobody else. A self-induced retcon may cause this in extreme cases.
* '''Extreme:''' The character has been utterly erased from existence, due to either a {{Time Travel}}er or some sort of supernatural force having altered the past to prevent his birth. The only ones who may remember the character are (possibly) whoever is responsible, and if anyone else does, it's due to some out-of-the-ordinary ability or intervention. This form of self-induced retcon is ''very'' rare, and often counts as a HeroicSacrifice taken UpToEleven.
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* ''Manga/OnePiece,''
** An incomplete version occurs in the Dressrosa arc courtesy the powers of the Hobby-Hobby Fruit wielded by Sugar. Her powers allow her to transform anyone she touches into LivingToys, which she can then place under her control. A side-effect of this power is all memory of who she transforms is removed from other people. Physical evidence, such as written reports or statues, still remain.
** It's frighteningly easy for Ain - from the 12th movie - to RetGone a foe. Her Devil Fruit power can make someone 12 years younger with each use (and she does ''not'' have to touch a victim to use it), and can potentially erase a person from existence via multiple uses by reversing them past their birth. While she's never done so on-screen, she tends to use it as a threat after displaying what it can do. (And it ''works''. Even the Straw Hats, who usually don't fear death, backed off after she reduced Nami to an eight-year-old and explained what would happen if she did it again.)

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* ''Manga/OnePiece,''
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''Manga/OnePiece'': An incomplete version occurs in the Dressrosa arc courtesy the powers of the Hobby-Hobby Fruit wielded by Sugar. Her powers allow her to transform anyone she touches into LivingToys, which she can then place under her control. A side-effect of this power is all memory of who she transforms is removed from other people. Physical evidence, such as written reports or statues, still remain.
** It's frighteningly easy for Ain - from the 12th movie - to RetGone a foe. Her Devil Fruit power can make someone 12 years younger with each use (and she does ''not'' have to touch a victim to use it), and can potentially erase a person from existence via multiple uses by reversing them past their birth. While she's never done so on-screen, she tends to use it as a threat after displaying what it can do. (And it ''works''. Even the Straw Hats, who usually don't fear death, backed off after she reduced Nami to an eight-year-old and explained what would happen if she did it again.)
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** Pre-Crisis, ComicBook/{{Supergirl}} fought a villain named Black Flame whose plan to defeat her was to trick the heroine into ''attempting'' this. Claiming to be a descendant of Supergirl from the future, Black Flame committed a few random acts of vandalism, and then "generously" let her "ancestor" see archived recordings of the future, where she ruled as a cruel and murderous tyrant. In truth, the archives were fake, and Black Flame was a citizen of the shrunken city of Kandor; she had hoped that Supergirl would expose herself to gold kryptonite to erase her powers to prevent any descendants from having them - which, of course, would render her helpless while not getting rid of Black Flame at all. There was one flaw in the villain's plan - [[spoiler:a ''dental filling'' which Supergirl noticed, which she realized an actual descendant would not have.]]



** ''ComicBook/XMen Legacy'' introduced a character named "Forget-Me-Not", a member of the X-Men whose mutant power made everyone forget he existed the second his existence drifted from their minds. (That's right, this guy is ''a member of the core team'' of mainstream Marvel, and has been so since M-Day at least; his heroic actions include fighting the Brood, acting as a soldier during the Age of X, and saving the other members from death, enslavement, and many other horrid fates.) He was used tongue-in-cheek to explain why certain bad guys tend to have something happen to their super awesome weapons at the last moment and things like that. (Why did the team luck out and escape that death trap that seemed flawless? Forget-Me-Not sabotaged it. How could they have survived those rigged explosions that were strong enough to vaporize the island? Forget-Me-Not disarmed it. He seems to be the catch-all way to describe any confusing DeusExMachina in the Mutant Books.) The only one who remembered him was Xavier, who put in an "alarm clock" telepathicly to remind him of his existence and the guy took it hard when Xavier died during ''ComicBook/AvengersVsXMen''.



* One story in ''Fanfic/ShadowchasersBackwater'' has a version of Lisa from a BadFuture do it to herself ''on purpose'' to prevent the bad future from occurring, the ultimate HeroicSacrifice.



* A rather ''brutal'' way of doing this [[http://www.vgcats.com/comics/?strip_id=269 shown here]] in ''WebComics/VGCats''.



* It is often debated among fans of ''WesternAnimation/CodenameKidsNextDoor'' whether or not Sally (Numbuh 3's granddaughter from a BadFuture) inadvertently (or even ''purposely'') prevented her own birth in "Operation: F.U.T.U.R.E." by helping to SetRightWhatOnceWentWrong. [[spoiler:She clearly was not related to Numbuh 4 in that timeline, and "Operation: I.N.T.E.R.V.I.E.W.S." shows the adult Wally and Kuki married.]] If true, it may count as the most heroic of {{Heroic Sacrifice}}s.
9th Jun '18 5:44:19 AM CaptainTedium
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* The ''WesternAnimation/CaptainPlanetAndThePlaneteers'' episode "Future Shock" had three villains descended from Looten Plunder, Dr. Blight, and Verminous Skumm sent back in time by Zarm to secure their future by killing a girl who would grow up to be a prominent defender of the environment. In the end, the three villains screw up and fire at Ma-Ti by mistake. While Ma-Ti survives, the failure to kill the little girl causes the Eco-Villains' descendants to disappear because of their timeline never transpiring.
8th Jun '18 2:34:21 AM Onlythrice
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* In ''TabletopGame/{{Pathfinder}}'', upon reaching level 20 a Monk of the Healing Hand unlocks the [[HeroicSacrifice "True Sacrifice" ability]], which allows one to use [[KiManipulation the entirety of their ki]] to [[MassResurrection resurrect all fallen allies within a 50-foot radius]]. As a result the monk [[CessationOfExistence ceases to exist]], [[DeaderThanDead can't be brought back using wishes nor deities]], and all memory and written record of their existence fades away.
5th Jun '18 11:49:09 AM MarcusSLazarus
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* Used in ''Fanfic/InfinityCrisis'', a crossover with ''Film/AvengersInfinityWar'' and the ''Series/ArrowVerse''
** As a result of the deaths caused by the Infinity Gauntlet affecting the entire multiverse in May 2018, the ''Waverider'' and Zari have to stay outside of time because of the risk that those erased include any of Zari's ancestors or the ancestors of those who would design the ''Waverider'', with the result that they would ease to exist if they return to the regular universe.
** Imra did not dissolve into dust, but vanished, intended to reflect how her future no longer exists.
** Ava Sharpe notes that hundred of futures are blinking out of existence after this attack.
29th May '18 3:49:18 AM catmuto
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** In the [[VideoGame/DragonBallXenoverse2 sequel]], Towa does this to the [[PreviousPlayerCharacterCameo previous game's]] Future Warrior by killing Shenron before Trunks has the chance to wish for them.

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** In the [[VideoGame/DragonBallXenoverse2 sequel]], ''VideoGame/DragonBallXenoverse2'', [[spoiler:after Towa does this loses Mira and Bardock, she reveals that she captured and brainwashed the hero from the original ''VideoGame/DragonBallXenoverse''. However, when you free him, she time travels to the [[PreviousPlayerCharacterCameo previous game's]] Future Warrior by killing Shenron before beginning of the original ''Xenoverse'' and kills Shenron, stopping the hero from being summoned. When he's removed from the timeline, the others forget about him until they start thinking harder about what's missing. The hero of this game is able to arrive in the nick of time and end up inspiring Trunks has into summoning the chance to wish for them.hero.]]



* ''VideoGame/AmnesiaOtome'' has this performed on Ukyo for his Normal Ending, and out of his own volition. In this ending, the heroine survives, but any knowledge of Ukyo's existence is erased... but only for ''her''. During the ending's party at the café, the manager actually asks her about Ukyo, who had been a regular customer, and wondering where he's gone off to. The heroine herself doesn't know who he's talking about.



* In ''VideoGame/DragonBallXenoverse2'', [[spoiler:after Towa loses Mira and Bardock, she reveals that she captured and brainwashed the hero from the original ''VideoGame/DragonBallXenoverse''. However, when you free him, she time travels to the beginning of the original ''Xenoverse'' and kills Shenron, stopping the hero from being summoned. When he's removed from the timeline, the others forget about him until they start thinking harder about what's missing. The hero of this game is able to arrive in the nick of time and end up inspiring Trunks into summoning the hero.]]
27th May '18 1:03:17 AM PC012
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* ''VideoGame/{{Undertale}}'' has the hidden character W. D. Gaster, an exploration of the implications of [[DummiedOut cut content]]. [[spoiler:Gaster was the previous Royal Scientist, but an experiment gone wrong saw him shattered across time and space. Anyone who knew him well was subjected to the same fate (except Sans, who is implied to be connected to him), including a greyed-out monster named Goner Kid who muses about having been wiped from everyone else's memories, leaving them to [[AndIMustScream look on forever as]] [[ItsAWonderfulPlot the world carries on like they never existed]].]]

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* ''VideoGame/{{Undertale}}'' has the hidden character W. D. Gaster, an exploration of the implications of [[DummiedOut cut content]]. [[spoiler:Gaster was the previous Royal Scientist, but an experiment gone wrong saw him shattered across time and space. Anyone who knew him well was subjected to the same fate (except Sans, who is implied to be connected to him), including a greyed-out monster named Goner Kid who muses about having been being wiped from everyone else's memories, leaving them memories and left to [[AndIMustScream look on forever as]] [[ItsAWonderfulPlot the world carries on like they (or whomever they have in mind) never existed]].]]
27th May '18 12:59:12 AM PC012
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* ''VideoGame/{{Undertale}}'' has the hidden character W. D. Gaster, an exploration of the implications of [[DummiedOut cut content]]. [[spoiler:Gaster was the previous Royal Scientist, but an experiment gone wrong saw him shattered across time and space -- ie. ''the game files''. Anyone who knew him well was subjected to the same fate (except Sans, who's implied to be connected to him) and he was wiped from everyone else's memories, leaving him to [[AndIMustScream look on forever as]] [[ItsAWonderfulPlot the world carries on like he never existed]].]]

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* ''VideoGame/{{Undertale}}'' has the hidden character W. D. Gaster, an exploration of the implications of [[DummiedOut cut content]]. [[spoiler:Gaster was the previous Royal Scientist, but an experiment gone wrong saw him shattered across time and space -- ie. ''the game files''. space. Anyone who knew him well was subjected to the same fate (except Sans, who's who is implied to be connected to him) and he was him), including a greyed-out monster named Goner Kid who muses about having been wiped from everyone else's memories, leaving him them to [[AndIMustScream look on forever as]] [[ItsAWonderfulPlot the world carries on like he they never existed]].]]
21st May '18 8:15:09 PM wuggles
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** In one episode in ''Legends'' season 3, Ray disappears from existence briefly due to a time anomaly causing him to be murdered at the age of 8.
19th May '18 6:41:42 AM mattthelurker
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* An issue of ''ComicBook/CaptainMarVell'' by Peter David had Genis-Vell travel into the future to face his evil son. The son is ultimately defeated when [[spoiler: Genis makes the decision to kill him as an infant]]. Once the decision is made, he fades away and is Ret-Gonned.


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* An issue of ''ComicBook/CaptainMarVell'' by Peter David had Genis-Vell travel into the future to face his evil son. The son is ultimately defeated when [[spoiler: Genis makes the decision to kill him as an infant]]. Once the decision is made, he fades away and is Ret-Gonned.
15th May '18 1:13:48 PM RAHDRON
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** The sequels also deal with after-effects of ''remembering'' someone that was wiped from reality. [[spoiler:Specifically, Naomi's huge mental breakdown over nobody remembering Seiko and Shinozaki's guilt over being responsible for introducing everyone to the ritual that ended up getting her friends killed.]]

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** The sequels also deal with after-effects of ''remembering'' someone that was wiped from reality. [[spoiler:Specifically, Naomi's huge mental breakdown over nobody remembering Seiko and Shinozaki's guilt over being responsible for introducing everyone to the ritual that ended up getting her friends killed.]]]][[spoiler: But this series plays with the trope: although the Nirvana/Heavenly Host causes that the people who died inside aren't remembered, it doesn't erase their souls, it only alters the memories of the people]]. In Blood Drive,[[spoiler: the souls are freed and all the memories restored... at the cost of Ayumi (and Yoshiki, because he stayed with her)'s presence in history, as they are erased from their friends' memories and from all photos or records, but they are still alive. So while they don't exist for the world, people can still see them... They just won't remember them ]].
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