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21st Dec '17 3:02:07 PM chasemaddigan
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21st Dec '17 3:01:50 PM chasemaddigan
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* ''Film/{{Cinderella 2015}}'':
** The prince: He was really just a glorified plot device in [[Disney/{{Cinderella}} the original animated film]]. The adaptation gives him several significant improvements.
*** He actually has a personality. And his relationship with his father here makes him even more of TheWoobie than Cinderella for some audiences.
*** He becomes attracted to Cinderella because of reasons other than her looks or apparent wealth.
*** He doesn't spend three nights dancing with Cinderella then forgets her face and voice (in several versions of the fairy tale, the step sisters almost pass for Cinderella by cutting part of their foot off to wear the shoe).
** Cinderella has always been one of the more divisive characters of the Franchise/DisneyPrincess line. Prior to this movie, she was frequently derided as being an anti-feminist character. This movie gave her character more depth, [[http://www.mommyish.com/2015/03/24/cinderella-is-a-tale-of-overcoming-abuse/ highlighting her as a brave survivor of abuse.]]
* A rather complicated (and completely intentional) version occurred in ''Literature/TheChroniclesOfNarnia'' with Edmund Pevensie. In the beginning of the series he was...[[BrattyHalfPint well]]...[[JerkAss kinda]] [[TurnCoat detestable]], but by the end of [[Literature/TheLionTheWitchAndTheWardrobe the first book]] he made a [[CharacterDevelopment complete turn around]] and showed in later books that he had definitely changed for the better. A lot of people never ''read'' any further than the first book and so by the time ''[[TheFilmOfTheBook Prince Caspian]]'' came out, their hatred for Edmund was pretty deep seated. Needless to say, many people were completely blown away by seeing "bratty" Edmund behaving so maturely. The many [[Awesome/TheChroniclesOfNarnia crowning moments of awesome]] he got probably didn't hurt, either.
* ''Film/StarTrekVITheUndiscoveredCountry'': Sulu in command redeems the U.S.S. ''Excelsior,'' last seen as the obnoxious, slickly supermodern ''Enterprise'' substitute in ''Film/StarTrekIIITheSearchForSpock''. The appearance of the ''Excelsior'' class as a supporting workhorse ship in ''Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration'' likely helped.
* ''Film/StarTrekGenerations'': Creator/PeterDavid made Captain Harriman, a.k.a. the indecisive idiot who got Kirk killed, a lot more tolerable in his tie-in novel ''The Captain's Daughter''.
** A one shot comic did the same thing: after a talk from [=McCoy=] telling him to get his act together, Harriman, when the ship was caught in a Klingon ambush and had no chance of winning, pulls off the same con Kirk did in ''Star Trek III''. Only [[ISurrenderSuckers his surrender]] involved beaming his ship's [[EarthShatteringKaboom entire load of torpedo warheads on to the Klingon ship]]. He gains a great deal of self-confidence and the respect of his crew.
* Erickson in ''Film/SawVI''. In the standard year-long wait between ''Franchise/{{Saw}}'' films, Erickson had become something of an in-joke with the fanbase for his ever-present bluetooth headset, as well as what was seen as his "unfortunate status" of being the last good guy still standing (and seeming to blindly play his role in TheChessmaster's latest plan, at that). ''Saw VI''... changed that, and to say how without spoilers is impossible. [[spoiler:The first scene Erickson appears in in the film's present timeline has him revealing that he had helped fake a fellow FBI agent's demise for the sake of effectively putting her out of harm's way, so the two of them would have the time and evidence necessary to convict Jigsaw's living apprentice. Granted, he kills both of them, but he has to [[TookALevelInBadass take a level in badass]] to do so, and they make him sweat heavily in the process.]]
* The version of Franchise/{{Godzilla}} seen in ''Film/{{Godzilla 1998}}'' was so disliked that fans took to calling him GINO (Godzilla InNameOnly). Creator/{{Toho}} even had him officially renamed "Zilla" for taking the "God" out of "Godzilla." But after ''Film/GodzillaFinalWars'' and subsequent ''Godzilla'' comics made him a ''canonically'' separate {{kaiju}} who fought the ''real'' King of the Monsters, fans have warmed up to him on these grounds. This is particularly true after ''ComicBook/GodzillaRulersOfEarth'' turned him into a full-on VillainousUnderdog, facing up to the vastly stronger Godzilla with nothing but his tunneling skills and strategic sense. Creator/GarethEdwards, in an interview where he talks about making ''Film/{{Godzilla 2014}}'' more faithful to the spirit and aesthetic of the original series, admitted that he finds Zilla to be pretty cool looking on its own.
* ''Film/XMenDaysOfFuturePast'':
** This movie saved the X-Men movie franchise in the eyes of many fans after two [[Film/XMenTheLastStand underwhelming]] [[Film/XMenOriginsWolverine movies]], and [[Film/XMenFirstClass two]] [[Film/TheWolverine more]] that were better-received but overshadowed by the success of the Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse (and [[FandomRivalry resented by some for not being part of it]]).
** Before the movie's release Evan Peters' portrayal of Quicksilver was already being highly criticized for a) not being the same as Aaron Taylor-Johnson in ''Film/AvengersAgeOfUltron'' and b) his costume, which many called ridiculous. When the people got to see him in the actual film though, the public's opinion of him changed radically after the [[OneSceneWonder Kitchen Scene]].
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16th Dec '17 1:44:01 PM nombretomado
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* ComicBook/ThePunisher has had three failed movie adaptions and among comic book fans was widely seen as a dated relic of the TheDarkAgeOfComicBooks, despite predating it by about 15 years. Then came his stint in the second season of the critically acclaimed ''Series/{{Daredevil 2015}}'' Netflix series, which heavily emphasized his moral ambiguity, leaving both characters and viewers skeptical about where the lines between understanding him, sympathizing with him, and/or condoning his actions lay. A particularly powerful performance by Creator/JonBernthal also gave it emotional weight that the previous ones lacked. This has had the effect of winning over both mainstream audiences and comic fans alike. He was eventually even greenlit for [[Series/ThePunisher2017 his own show]].

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* ComicBook/ThePunisher has had three failed movie adaptions and among comic book fans was widely seen as a dated relic of the TheDarkAgeOfComicBooks, UsefulNotes/TheDarkAgeOfComicBooks, despite predating it by about 15 years. Then came his stint in the second season of the critically acclaimed ''Series/{{Daredevil 2015}}'' Netflix series, which heavily emphasized his moral ambiguity, leaving both characters and viewers skeptical about where the lines between understanding him, sympathizing with him, and/or condoning his actions lay. A particularly powerful performance by Creator/JonBernthal also gave it emotional weight that the previous ones lacked. This has had the effect of winning over both mainstream audiences and comic fans alike. He was eventually even greenlit for [[Series/ThePunisher2017 his own show]].
15th Dec '17 3:09:10 PM Anddrix
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* To an extent, Roger Waters of Music/PinkFloyd. His last album with the Floyd, ''The Final Cut'', was an {{Anvilicious}}, dark, LoveItOrHateIt album and a slow seller, and he carried the {{Wangst}} and ControlFreak tendencies well into his solo albums. He gained a certain amount of bad press over the lawsuits and public arguments over the rights to the name "Music/PinkFloyd", as David Gilmour's LighterAndSofter Floyd gained success in the late 1980's and early 1990's. By the end of TheNineties, his feelings over Music/PinkFloyd and the media cooled and he started performing Floyd-like arena shows with heavy emphasis over his former band's works, to the delight of many, with full performances of Music/TheDarkSideOfTheMoon and later, Music/TheWall, and slowly patched things up with his old bandmates. This culminated in the Floyd's reunion show for Live 8 in 2005, and since then he has had great success and better press lately, and his full-scale performance of Music/TheWall is a massive success.

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* To an extent, Roger Waters of Music/PinkFloyd. His last album with the Floyd, ''The Final Cut'', was an {{Anvilicious}}, dark, LoveItOrHateIt polarizing album and a slow seller, and he carried the {{Wangst}} and ControlFreak tendencies well into his solo albums. He gained a certain amount of bad press over the lawsuits and public arguments over the rights to the name "Music/PinkFloyd", as David Gilmour's LighterAndSofter Floyd gained success in the late 1980's and early 1990's. By the end of TheNineties, his feelings over Music/PinkFloyd and the media cooled and he started performing Floyd-like arena shows with heavy emphasis over his former band's works, to the delight of many, with full performances of Music/TheDarkSideOfTheMoon and later, Music/TheWall, and slowly patched things up with his old bandmates. This culminated in the Floyd's reunion show for Live 8 in 2005, and since then he has had great success and better press lately, and his full-scale performance of Music/TheWall is a massive success.
25th Nov '17 6:22:10 AM moreorlesser
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* In the ''WebAnimation/{{FTLKestrelAdventures}}'', Cremity. He seemed useless and whiny at first, but after his significant arc, he has proven himself to be a character with depths and potential for growth.
25th Oct '17 2:58:48 PM Zaiaku666
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* SeerKing does this in ''Fanfic/CodeGeassThePreparedRebellion'' to most Scrappys by way of making it a RationalFic. In fact, the only one who seems to be stuck in a psudeo-Scrappy state is Suzaku, and even that's justified by establishing his BlackAndWhiteMorality as a trauma-induced mental disorder.
17th Oct '17 10:39:56 AM deven0711
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** The prince: He was really was just a glorified plot device in [[Disney/{{Cinderella}} the original animated film]]. The adaptation gives him several significant improvement.

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** The prince: He was really was just a glorified plot device in [[Disney/{{Cinderella}} the original animated film]]. The adaptation gives him several significant improvement.improvements.



*** He doesn't spend 3 nights dancing with Cinderella then forgets her face and voice (in several versions of the fairy tale, the step sisters almost pass for Cinderella by cutting part of their foot off to wear the shoe).

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*** He doesn't spend 3 three nights dancing with Cinderella then forgets her face and voice (in several versions of the fairy tale, the step sisters almost pass for Cinderella by cutting part of their foot off to wear the shoe).



* A rather complicated (and completely intentional) version occurred in ''Literature/TheChroniclesOfNarnia'' with Edmund Pevensie. In the beginning of the series he was...[[BrattyHalfPint well]]...[[JerkAss kinda]] [[TurnCoat detestable]], but by the end of [[Literature/TheLionTheWitchAndTheWardrobe the first book]] he made a [[CharacterDevelopment complete turn around]] and showed in later books that he had definitely changed for the better. A lot of people never ''read'' any further than the first book and so by the time ''[[TheFilmOfTheBook Prince Caspian]]'' came out their hatred for Edmund was pretty deep seated. Needless to say, many people were completely blown away by seeing "bratty" Edmund behaving so maturely. The many [[Awesome/TheChroniclesOfNarnia crowning moments of awesome]] he got probably didn't hurt, either.

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* A rather complicated (and completely intentional) version occurred in ''Literature/TheChroniclesOfNarnia'' with Edmund Pevensie. In the beginning of the series he was...[[BrattyHalfPint well]]...[[JerkAss kinda]] [[TurnCoat detestable]], but by the end of [[Literature/TheLionTheWitchAndTheWardrobe the first book]] he made a [[CharacterDevelopment complete turn around]] and showed in later books that he had definitely changed for the better. A lot of people never ''read'' any further than the first book and so by the time ''[[TheFilmOfTheBook Prince Caspian]]'' came out out, their hatred for Edmund was pretty deep seated. Needless to say, many people were completely blown away by seeing "bratty" Edmund behaving so maturely. The many [[Awesome/TheChroniclesOfNarnia crowning moments of awesome]] he got probably didn't hurt, either.
5th Sep '17 10:14:59 AM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* In ''VideoGame/CrisisCore'', Genesis was a pretentious VillainSue[=/=]CreatorsPet that the audience was supposed to feel sorry for because of his [[YourDaysAreNumbered terminal illness]]. ''Loads'' of readers found Genesis a ton more likeable in ''FanFic/TheFifthAct'', after [[PeggySue Cloud]] prevents him from JumpingOffTheSlipperySlope via curing him. After gaining a new lease on life, Genesis grows to become kind and less fatalistic. He grows out of his resentment of his friends, realizing that he could have lost them forever if he had died. He tones down his pretentiousness after his self-confidence grows after he attempts to befriend Cloud. Even his constant quoting of "Loveless" is used rather tastefully, particularly with how the ''[[ShowWithInAShow Loveless]]'' play and its unfinished nature is one of the story's major themes and how other characters also reference it.

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* In ''VideoGame/CrisisCore'', Genesis was a pretentious VillainSue[=/=]CreatorsPet CreatorsPet that the audience was supposed to feel sorry for because of his [[YourDaysAreNumbered terminal illness]]. ''Loads'' of readers found Genesis a ton more likeable in ''FanFic/TheFifthAct'', after [[PeggySue Cloud]] prevents him from JumpingOffTheSlipperySlope via curing him. After gaining a new lease on life, Genesis grows to become kind and less fatalistic. He grows out of his resentment of his friends, realizing that he could have lost them forever if he had died. He tones down his pretentiousness after his self-confidence grows after he attempts to befriend Cloud. Even his constant quoting of "Loveless" is used rather tastefully, particularly with how the ''[[ShowWithInAShow Loveless]]'' play and its unfinished nature is one of the story's major themes and how other characters also reference it.



* Roboute Guilliman in ''Literature/HorusHeresy''. After that disastrous Ultramarines codex plunged the Chapter into MarySue territory, Guilliman became fandom's chief Scrappy, with his very own mocking meme of "Spiritual Liege". In ''Heresy'' books, however, he's portrayed as responsible, paying attention to the common mortals, intelligent and actually critical of his [[BigBookOfWar Codex Astartes]], earning him more sympathy of the fans.
* Another victim of the Ultramarine codex, Cato Sicarius, finally got redeemed in ''Literature/SpaceMarineBattles''. Pre-planned as TheAce, he came across more like GloryHound MarySue until book ''Veil of Darkness'' came and turned him into rather sympathetic BrokenAce. It helps that it was the first time we've ever seen inside of his mind.

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* Roboute Guilliman in ''Literature/HorusHeresy''. After that disastrous Ultramarines codex plunged the Chapter into MarySue CreatorsPet territory, Guilliman became fandom's chief Scrappy, with his very own mocking meme of "Spiritual Liege". In ''Heresy'' books, however, he's portrayed as responsible, paying attention to the common mortals, intelligent and actually critical of his [[BigBookOfWar Codex Astartes]], earning him more sympathy of the fans.
* Another victim of the Ultramarine codex, Cato Sicarius, finally got redeemed in ''Literature/SpaceMarineBattles''. Pre-planned as TheAce, he came across more like GloryHound MarySue until book ''Veil of Darkness'' came and turned him into rather sympathetic BrokenAce. It helps that it was the first time we've ever seen inside of his mind.



** Not everyone would [[TheyChangedItNowItSucks agree with that]]. Yes, the Necrons did have a reputation as a bit of a VillainSue, but many people did like the scary EldritchAbomination and EnigmaticMinion aspects of their lore, and flipped out when these were removed. The general consensus of the [[FanNickname Oldcrons vs. Newcrons]] debate seems to be "Newcron game mechanics and units are better, but Oldcron lore and their general theme is better". The Forgeworld Imperial Armour release: Fall of Orpheus helped as well, by demonstrating that it was quite possible to keep many of the enigmatic horror elements that made the Oldcron fans loved, while still keeping with the new fluff.

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** Not everyone would [[TheyChangedItNowItSucks agree with that]]. Yes, the Necrons did have a reputation as a bit of a VillainSue, but many Many people did like the scary EldritchAbomination and EnigmaticMinion aspects of their lore, and flipped out when these were removed. The general consensus of the [[FanNickname Oldcrons vs. Newcrons]] debate seems to be "Newcron game mechanics and units are better, but Oldcron lore and their general theme is better". The Forgeworld Imperial Armour release: Fall of Orpheus helped as well, by demonstrating that it was quite possible to keep many of the enigmatic horror elements that made the Oldcron fans loved, while still keeping with the new fluff.
5th Sep '17 10:06:35 AM Wildstar93
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** Speaking of Berrynose, his mom Daisy had been seen by many fans to be useless and refusing to fight and hunt. But come ''The Last Hope'' in ''Omen Of The Stars'', and she's seen [[TookALevelInBadass beating up a Dark Forest cat for getting near the nursery]], and fans started warming up to her. As of ''A Vision Of Shadows'', Daisy is not only the oldest nursery queen, but she's also seen hunting and fighting like the other Clan cats.
2nd Aug '17 3:08:39 PM infernape612
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* In ''VideoGame/CrisisCore'', Genesis was a pretentious VillainSue[=/=]CreatorsPet that the audience was supposed to feel sorry for because of his [[YourDaysAreNumbered terminal illness]].''Loads'' of readers found Genesis a ton more likeable in ''FanFic/TheFifthAct'', after [[PeggySue Cloud]] prevents him from JumpingOffTheSlipperySlope via curing him. After gaining a new lease on life, Genesis grows to become kind and less fatalistic. He grows out of his resentment of his friends, realizing that he could have lost them forever if he had died. He tones down his pretentiousness after his self-confidence grows after he attempts to befriend Cloud. Even his constant quoting of "Loveless" is used rather tastefully, particularly with how the ''[[ShowWithInAShow Loveless]]'' play and its unfinished nature is one of the story's major themes and how other characters also reference it.

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* In ''VideoGame/CrisisCore'', Genesis was a pretentious VillainSue[=/=]CreatorsPet that the audience was supposed to feel sorry for because of his [[YourDaysAreNumbered terminal illness]]. ''Loads'' of readers found Genesis a ton more likeable in ''FanFic/TheFifthAct'', after [[PeggySue Cloud]] prevents him from JumpingOffTheSlipperySlope via curing him. After gaining a new lease on life, Genesis grows to become kind and less fatalistic. He grows out of his resentment of his friends, realizing that he could have lost them forever if he had died. He tones down his pretentiousness after his self-confidence grows after he attempts to befriend Cloud. Even his constant quoting of "Loveless" is used rather tastefully, particularly with how the ''[[ShowWithInAShow Loveless]]'' play and its unfinished nature is one of the story's major themes and how other characters also reference it.
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