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8th Jul '17 4:11:06 PM nombretomado
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* Dr. Lee of ''SkinHorse''. Her morality is nebulous at best; she feels terrible about doing things like scooping out a man's brain to turn him into a weapon, yet she goes right on doing it. And while she does Mad Sciencey stuff, she's not exactly a Mad Scientist by the setting's definition, being far too connected to consensus reality. She's useful to the Shadowy Forces because she can turn mad science into things that actually ''work'', while the non-reluctant Mad Scientists mock her for expecting things to make sense.

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* Dr. Lee of ''SkinHorse''.''Webcomic/SkinHorse''. Her morality is nebulous at best; she feels terrible about doing things like scooping out a man's brain to turn him into a weapon, yet she goes right on doing it. And while she does Mad Sciencey stuff, she's not exactly a Mad Scientist by the setting's definition, being far too connected to consensus reality. She's useful to the Shadowy Forces because she can turn mad science into things that actually ''work'', while the non-reluctant Mad Scientists mock her for expecting things to make sense.
8th Jun '17 10:18:14 AM DustSnitch
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The obviously charismatic Einstein and other [[HerrDoktor early 20th-century physicists]] somehow inspired the notion of the Reluctant Mad Scientist who is actually an idealist and pacifist (possibly a WellIntentionedExtremist) but generally beyond good and evil by virtue of sheer genius.



The obviously charismatic Einstein and other [[HerrDoktor early 20th-century physicists]] somehow inspired the notion of the Reluctant Mad Scientist who is generally beyond good and evil by virtue of sheer genius, leading to this new version of the MadScientist.



* Dr. Jumba Jookiba from ''Disney/LiloAndStitch''. (Although he doesn't like to ''[[EvilGenius think of himself]]'' as such...)

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* %%* Dr. Jumba Jookiba from ''Disney/LiloAndStitch''. (Although he doesn't like to ''[[EvilGenius think of himself]]'' as such...)
19th May '17 1:38:37 AM JohnnyHuang
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* Dr Tenenbaum in ''VideoGame/Bioshock'' technically fills this role by the end of the series (barring the exploding arena, as the final boss area does not explode, but she does provide the means of defeating the final boss), going back over the audio diaries leaves it a bit ambiguous how reluctant or willing she was, how much of it was s desire for survival, how much was for science, and how much was just Rapture spiraling out of control. It doesn't help her boss is a murderous crime boss who probably would kill her if she protested too much.

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* Dr Tenenbaum in ''VideoGame/Bioshock'' ''VideoGame/BioShock'' technically fills this role by the end of the series (barring the exploding arena, as the final boss area does not explode, but she does provide the means of defeating the final boss), going back over the audio diaries leaves it a bit ambiguous how reluctant or willing she was, how much of it was s desire for survival, how much was for science, and how much was just Rapture spiraling out of control. It doesn't help her boss is a murderous crime boss who probably would kill her if she protested too much.
19th May '17 1:37:41 AM JohnnyHuang
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* Dr Tenenbaum in ''Videogame/Bioshock'' technically fills this role by the end of the series (barring the exploding arena, as the final boss area does not explode, but she does provide the means of defeating the final boss), going back over the audio diaries leaves it a bit ambiguous how reluctant or willing she was, how much of it was s desire for survival, how much was for science, and how much was just Rapture spiraling out of control. It doesn't help her boss is a murderous crime boss who probably would kill her if she protested too much.

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* Dr Tenenbaum in ''Videogame/Bioshock'' ''VideoGame/Bioshock'' technically fills this role by the end of the series (barring the exploding arena, as the final boss area does not explode, but she does provide the means of defeating the final boss), going back over the audio diaries leaves it a bit ambiguous how reluctant or willing she was, how much of it was s desire for survival, how much was for science, and how much was just Rapture spiraling out of control. It doesn't help her boss is a murderous crime boss who probably would kill her if she protested too much.
* ''Franchise/FatalFrame'' has Dr. Kunihiko Asou, whose inventions included various types of [[MagicalCamera Camera Obscura]]. While his inventions originated from his curiosity regarding the afterlife and were never meant to actively hurt anyone, the fact that those who become exposed to extended use of such items could become [[GoMadFromTheRevelation mad upon seeing spirits -- especially if said users hadn't seen one before]] -- and possibly DrivenToSuicide caused many of his inventions to be considered dangerous or even cursed.
16th Apr '17 1:04:58 PM nombretomado
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-->-- '''Wernher von Braun''', inventor of the V2 ballistic missile and the [[SpaceRace Saturn V rocket]] (and a notable non-example of this trope as per the USA's ''Operation Paperclip''[[note]] he was never prosecuted for making use of Slave Labour (provided by POW, generally Soviet) to build his facilities and machines [[/note]]).

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-->-- '''Wernher von Braun''', inventor of the V2 ballistic missile and the [[SpaceRace [[UsefulNotes/TheSpaceRace Saturn V rocket]] (and a notable non-example of this trope as per the USA's ''Operation Paperclip''[[note]] he was never prosecuted for making use of Slave Labour (provided by POW, generally Soviet) to build his facilities and machines [[/note]]).
23rd Feb '17 2:19:41 AM Yozzy
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** What's notable here is that Magnus was one of the Emperor's most loyal sons, and his hubris in thinking he knew best allowed him to be manipulated by the God of schemes and sorcery (which Magnus was ironically ignorant of), destroying the Emperor's plans and exposing himself in flaunting the Emperor's decree, both in spectacular fashion. Magnus was crushed with guilt to the point of allowing everything he loved to be destroyed, right up until the point where he ''nearly'' did lose everything. Then he had to cut a deal with the God that had tricked, his eternal service and what little he had left would be kept intact, especially his few surviving sons. [[ForcedIntoEvil That included siding with Horus in treason]], and after the whole ordeal was finished, Magnus and his sons [[JumpingOffTheSlipperySlope fully cast off any old loyalties]] and decided to pursue revenge against the Emperor and the Wolves.

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** What's notable here is that Magnus was one of the Emperor's most loyal sons, and his hubris in thinking he knew best allowed him to be manipulated by the God of schemes and sorcery (which Magnus was ironically ignorant of), destroying the Emperor's plans and exposing himself in flaunting the Emperor's decree, both in spectacular fashion. This caused the avoidable tragedy of two of the Emperor's most loyal forces to clash for survival. Magnus was crushed with guilt to the point of nearly allowing everything he loved and worked for to be destroyed, destroyed right up until to the point where he ''nearly'' did lose everything. Then At the last possible moment, he had to cut a deal with the God that had tricked, tricked him, his eternal service and what little he had left would be kept intact, especially his few surviving sons.Sons. [[ForcedIntoEvil That included siding with Horus in treason]], and after the whole ordeal was finished, Magnus and his sons [[JumpingOffTheSlipperySlope fully cast off any old loyalties]] and decided to pursue revenge against the Emperor and the Wolves.
23rd Feb '17 1:59:28 AM Yozzy
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* ''TabletopGame/Warhammer40000'' provides an interesting variant in the form of Magnus the Red, Primarch of the Thousand Sons. He was the galaxy's most powerful and knowledgeable psychic after his father, [[GodEmperor the Emperor]]; and in this weird, gothic ScienceFantasy setting, this made him more akin to a mad wizard than a mad scientist. After some political maneuvering by Magnus's brothers and the covert influence by a malign deity, the Emperor called [[KangarooCourt the Council of Nikaea]], in which the use of psychic powers were publicly banned. (The Thousand Sons's hat was warrior-psychics, so they would have to radically change everything from the ground up, had they complied.) The Literature/HorusHeresy broke out, Magnus used his power to reach out to the Emperor across the galaxy. What Magnus didn't realize was that the psychic shock caused enormous damage across Earth, even destroying the Emperor's secret projects for the Imperium's long term survival. The Emperor dispatched the [[BloodKnight Space Wolves]] in response to subdue Magnus and his Legion, with Horus intercepting the order and altering it to destroy them. The following battle ended with Magnus sacrificing his physical body to transport the relative few survivors of his Legion to a new planet, and having to throw his lot in with the traitors for survival.
** What's notable here is that Magnus was one of the Emperor's most loyal sons, and his hubris in thinking he knew best allowed him to be manipulated by the God of schemes and sorcery (which Magnus was ironically ignorant of), destroying the Emperor's plans and exposing himself in flaunting the Emperor's decree, both in spectacular fashion. Magnus was crushed with guilt to the point of allowing everything he loved to be destroyed, right up until the point where he ''nearly'' did lose everything. Then he had to cut a deal with the God that had tricked, his eternal service and what little he had left would be kept intact, especially his few surviving sons. [[ForcedIntoEvil That included siding with Horus in treason]], and after the whole ordeal was finished, Magnus and his sons [[JumpingOffTheSlipperySlope fully cast off any old loyalties]] and decided to pursue revenge against the Emperor and the Wolves.
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9th Jan '17 5:33:38 PM nombretomado
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* [[Literature/{{Discworld}} Leonard of Quirm]] from the Discworld series (loosely based on LeonardoDaVinci) is a subversion; he never envisions [[JustThinkOfThePotential violent uses for his ideas]], and immediately becomes horrified and angry if anyone else suggests such uses for them. When one of his inventions ''is'' used for ignoble means, he tries to have it -- and all of his plans and diagrams -- destroyed out of shame. [[spoiler:A later books suggests that he ''does'' realize the destructive potential, but tries to sell it as being used for peaceful purposes. When he designs an obvious weapon that he can't possibly spin into something else, he sighs and burns the plans.]]

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* [[Literature/{{Discworld}} Leonard of Quirm]] from the Discworld series (loosely based on LeonardoDaVinci) Creator/LeonardoDaVinci) is a subversion; he never envisions [[JustThinkOfThePotential violent uses for his ideas]], and immediately becomes horrified and angry if anyone else suggests such uses for them. When one of his inventions ''is'' used for ignoble means, he tries to have it -- and all of his plans and diagrams -- destroyed out of shame. [[spoiler:A later books suggests that he ''does'' realize the destructive potential, but tries to sell it as being used for peaceful purposes. When he designs an obvious weapon that he can't possibly spin into something else, he sighs and burns the plans.]]
28th Dec '16 4:03:17 PM Premonition45
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* Galen Erso in ''Franchise/StarWars'': ''Film/RogueOne'' is a research scientist that get forcibly recruited to construct a super-weapon for the Galactic Empire. That super-weapon turns out to be the original Death Star of ''Film/ANewHope''. Resenting the fact that he has been taken from his family, [[spoiler:he secretly plants a weak spot, a thermal exhaust port leading directly to the main reactor, which would easily be destroyed by even a small starfighter]].
22nd Dec '16 11:49:49 AM madammina
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* Dr Tenenbaum in ''Videogame/Bioshock'' technically fills this role by the end of the series (barring the exploding arena, as the final boss area does not explode, but she does provide the means of defeating the final boss), going back over the audio diaries leaves it a bit ambiguous how reluctant or willing she was, how much of it was s desire for survival, how much was for science, and how much was just Rapture spiraling out of control. It doesn't help her boss is a murderous crime boss who probably would kill her if she protested too much.
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