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6th Sep '16 10:50:55 AM S123
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* Oh ''Series/{{Glee}}'' and Quinn's pregnancy arc. It was already implied that Quinn's sexual encounter with Puck might not have been what she wanted, since she told him she only did so "because she was drunk and feeling fat that day". But then a flashback at the end of Season One reveals that [[spoiler:she ''explicitly'' told Puck that she didn't want to have sex, but he turned her around by telling her that all her friends in the chastity club have had sex with him, she'll be forgotten by all of them in three years anyway, and then he lies about having protection. Not to mention the scene implies [[ButLiquorIsQuicker ''he's deliberately getting her drunk on wine coolers'']]]]. And to top it off, [[FridgeHorror it's all]] PlayedForLaughs.

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* Oh ''Series/{{Glee}}'' and Quinn's pregnancy arc. It was already implied that Quinn's sexual encounter with Puck might not have been what she wanted, since she told him she only did so "because she was drunk and feeling fat that day". But then a flashback at the end of Season One reveals that [[spoiler:she ''explicitly'' told Puck that she didn't want to have sex, but he turned her around by telling her that all her friends in the chastity club have had sex with him, she'll be forgotten by all of them in three years anyway, and then he lies about having protection. Not to mention the scene implies [[ButLiquorIsQuicker ''he's he's deliberately getting her drunk on wine coolers'']]]].coolers ]]]]. And to top it off, [[FridgeHorror it's all]] PlayedForLaughs.
6th Sep '16 10:43:22 AM S123
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* Oh ''Series/{{Glee}}'' and Quinn's pregnancy arc. It was already implied that Quinn's sexual encounter with Puck might not have been what she wanted, since she told him she only did so "because she was drunk and feeling fat that day". But then a flashback at the end of Season One reveals that [[spoiler:she ''explicitly'' told Puck that she didn't want to have sex, but he turned her around by telling her that all her friends in the chastity club have had sex with him, she'll be forgotten by all of them in three years anyway, and then he lies about having protection. Not to mention the scene implies ''he's deliberately getting her drunk on wine coolers'']]. And to top it off, [[FridgeHorror it's all]] PlayedForLaughs.

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* Oh ''Series/{{Glee}}'' and Quinn's pregnancy arc. It was already implied that Quinn's sexual encounter with Puck might not have been what she wanted, since she told him she only did so "because she was drunk and feeling fat that day". But then a flashback at the end of Season One reveals that [[spoiler:she ''explicitly'' told Puck that she didn't want to have sex, but he turned her around by telling her that all her friends in the chastity club have had sex with him, she'll be forgotten by all of them in three years anyway, and then he lies about having protection. Not to mention the scene implies [[ButLiquorIsQuicker ''he's deliberately getting her drunk on wine coolers'']].coolers'']]]]. And to top it off, [[FridgeHorror it's all]] PlayedForLaughs.
12th Aug '16 2:22:22 PM Ambaryerno
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* Although it's usually danced around, Comicbook/{{X 23}} is indeed a victim of this, when she's first introduced to the comics as a prostitute in ''Comicbook/{{NYX}}''. Her age is never stated, but later books suggest she was no older than 15-16, meaning that she was ''very'' much unable to provide consent under New York law. Even ignoring her age, there is her mental and emotional state to consider: However Zebra Daddy got his hooks into her, by the time he did she was an emotionally broken girl who was forced to leave her only family, suffered severe physical and emotional abuse all her life, and has been violently conditioned for subservience and obedience to the point she ''honestly'' doesn't understand how to make choices for herself. Laura would later confide in others that at the time Daddy found her, she didn't even comprehend that her body was her own. By ''no'' stretch of the imagination would she be considered mentally or emotionally capable of providing informed consent, even were she to have sex with someone her own age.
22nd Jul '16 5:33:10 PM MsChibi
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It can also be a discussion about whether or not a certain character is able to consent to a certain thing in the first place. The character might be [[{{Lolicon}} too young]] or [[NaiveEverygirl inexperienced]], [[DrugsAreBad drugged down]], intellectually challenged, [[ButLiquorIsQuicker extremely drunk]], suffering from StockholmSyndrome or similar. It might also have to do with [[UnequalPairing the nature of the relationship]]: [[SleepingWithTheBoss a boss and an employee]], [[DoctorsOrders a health care worker and a patient]], [[ParentalIncest a parent and child (even if said child is fully grown)]], [[HotForStudent a teacher and student]], [[SexyPriest a clergyperson and a member of his/her congregation]], or something along those lines.

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It can also be a discussion about whether or not a certain character is able to consent to a certain thing in the first place. The character might be [[{{Lolicon}} too young]] or [[NaiveEverygirl inexperienced]], [[DrugsAreBad drugged down]], intellectually challenged, [[ButLiquorIsQuicker extremely drunk]], [[DudeShesLikeInAComa unconscious]], suffering from StockholmSyndrome or similar. It might also have to do with [[UnequalPairing the nature of the relationship]]: [[SleepingWithTheBoss a boss and an employee]], [[DoctorsOrders a health care worker and a patient]], [[ParentalIncest a parent and child (even if said child is fully grown)]], [[HotForStudent a teacher and student]], [[SexyPriest a clergyperson and a member of his/her congregation]], or something along those lines.
30th May '16 3:36:07 PM Eievie
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** While [[spoiler:Jon Snow was ''[[ButIWouldReallyEnjoyIt attracted]]'' to Ygritte, he intended to stay true to his VowOfCelibacy. She {{blackmail}}s him into having sex with her--defending him against those who suspect him (correctly) of being a FakeDefector by claiming he's her lover. She then tells Jon it's MetaphoricallyTrue: She just lied by saying it had ''already'' happened. Left with no choice other than to be exposed, Jon has sex with her. He becomes pretty enthusiastic over time, but this doesn't negate or justify the blackmail, and it comes off a little like NotIfTheyEnjoyedItRationalization.]]

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** While [[spoiler:Jon Snow was ''[[ButIWouldReallyEnjoyIt attracted]]'' to Ygritte, he intended to stay true to his VowOfCelibacy. She {{blackmail}}s him into having sex with her--defending him against those who suspect him (correctly) of being a FakeDefector by claiming he's her lover. She then tells Jon it's MetaphoricallyTrue: She just lied by saying it had ''already'' happened. Left with no choice other than to be exposed, Jon has sex with her. He does, and he becomes pretty enthusiastic over time, but this doesn't negate or justify the blackmail, and it comes off a little like NotIfTheyEnjoyedItRationalization.]]
17th May '16 7:48:52 AM emeriin
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* In ''Princess Diaries II'', WebVideo/TheNostalgiaCritic almost kisses Hyper twice, but as he and Doug (on the commentary) point out repeatedly, he was only going to because of StockholmSyndrome.
14th May '16 11:33:28 AM hoodiecrow
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** As noted, the rule wasn't exactly unreasonable, because Wulfenbach is [[AntiVillain trying to keep peace throughout all of Europe and protect it from a rather serious threat]], and the rule (which Beetle blatantly broke) is more or less directly related to that goal. So even though Beetle tries to invoke this trope, he really comes across as childish and petulant rather than legitimately being coerced.
14th May '16 11:32:33 AM hoodiecrow
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* ''Webcomic/GirlGenius'' had "
[[http://www.girlgeniusonline.com/comic.php?date=20030101 "one rule"]] Dr. Beetle agreed on as a vassal of Baron Wulfenbach, very reasonable, but very no-nonsense overlord of the whole Europe.

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* ''Webcomic/GirlGenius'' had "
[[http://www.girlgeniusonline.com/comic.php?date=20030101 "one rule"]] Dr. Beetle agreed on as a vassal of Baron Wulfenbach, very reasonable, but very no-nonsense overlord of the whole Europe.
26th Apr '16 2:11:34 AM konekootome
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* In ''FanFic/MyMirrorSwordAndShield'' Suzaku returns Lelouch's feelings, but as his [[TimeTravel future adoptive father]] points out Suzaku is in no position to refuse. As Emperor, Lelouch could execute him if he felt like it and [[SleepingWithTheBoss is Suzaku's boss.]] And Suzaku [[MealTicket depends on Lelouch's patronage for protection]] and shelter while his time machine is fixed.
25th Apr '16 5:12:49 PM MsChibi
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It can also be a discussion about whether or not a certain character is able to consent to a certain thing in the first place. The character might be [[{{Lolicon}} too young]] or [[NaiveEverygirl inexperienced]], [[DrugsAreBad drugged down]], intellectually challenged, [[ButLiquorIsQuicker extremely drunk]], suffering from StockholmSyndrome or similar. It might also have to do with [[UnequalRelationship the nature of the relationship]]: [[SleepingWithTheBoss a boss and an employee]], [[DoctorsOrders a health care worker and a patient]], [[ParentalIncest a parent and child (even if said child is fully grown)]], [[HotForStudent a teacher and student]], [[SexyPriest a clergyperson and a member of his/her congregation]], or something along those lines.

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It can also be a discussion about whether or not a certain character is able to consent to a certain thing in the first place. The character might be [[{{Lolicon}} too young]] or [[NaiveEverygirl inexperienced]], [[DrugsAreBad drugged down]], intellectually challenged, [[ButLiquorIsQuicker extremely drunk]], suffering from StockholmSyndrome or similar. It might also have to do with [[UnequalRelationship [[UnequalPairing the nature of the relationship]]: [[SleepingWithTheBoss a boss and an employee]], [[DoctorsOrders a health care worker and a patient]], [[ParentalIncest a parent and child (even if said child is fully grown)]], [[HotForStudent a teacher and student]], [[SexyPriest a clergyperson and a member of his/her congregation]], or something along those lines.
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