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17th Jun '17 3:43:38 PM rjd1922
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It can also be a discussion about whether or not a certain character is able to consent to a certain thing in the first place. The character might be [[{{Lolicon}} too young]] or [[NaiveEverygirl inexperienced]], drunk or drugged, intellectually challenged, [[DudeShesLikeInAComa unconscious]], suffering from StockholmSyndrome, or similar. It might also have to do with [[UnequalPairing the nature of the relationship]]: [[SleepingWithTheBoss a boss and an employee]], [[DoctorsOrders a health care worker and a patient]], [[ParentalIncest a parent and child]] (even if said child is fully grown), [[HotForStudent a teacher and student]], [[SexyPriest a clergyperson and a member of their congregation]], [[DoubleStandardRapeDivineOnMortal a god/goddess and a human (or other non-divine entity)]], or something along those lines.

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It can also be a discussion about whether or not a certain character is able to consent to a certain thing in the first place. The character might be [[{{Lolicon}} [[LoliconAndShotacon too young]] or [[NaiveEverygirl inexperienced]], drunk or drugged, intellectually challenged, [[DudeShesLikeInAComa unconscious]], suffering from StockholmSyndrome, or similar. It might also have to do with [[UnequalPairing the nature of the relationship]]: [[SleepingWithTheBoss a boss and an employee]], [[DoctorsOrders a health care worker and a patient]], [[ParentalIncest a parent and child]] (even if said child is fully grown), [[HotForStudent a teacher and student]], [[SexyPriest a clergyperson and a member of their congregation]], [[DoubleStandardRapeDivineOnMortal a god/goddess and a human (or other non-divine entity)]], or something along those lines.
22nd May '17 3:48:28 PM Eievie
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It can also be a discussion about whether or not a certain character is able to consent to a certain thing in the first place. The character might be [[{{Lolicon}} too young]] or [[NaiveEverygirl inexperienced]], [[DrugsAreBad drugged down]], intellectually challenged, [[ButLiquorIsQuicker extremely drunk]], [[DudeShesLikeInAComa unconscious]], suffering from StockholmSyndrome or similar. It might also have to do with [[UnequalPairing the nature of the relationship]]: [[SleepingWithTheBoss a boss and an employee]], [[DoctorsOrders a health care worker and a patient]], [[ParentalIncest a parent and child (even if said child is fully grown)]], [[HotForStudent a teacher and student]], [[SexyPriest a clergyperson and a member of his/her congregation]], [[DoubleStandardRapeDivineOnMortal a god/goddess and a human or other non-divine entity]], or something along those lines.

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It can also be a discussion about whether or not a certain character is able to consent to a certain thing in the first place. The character might be [[{{Lolicon}} too young]] or [[NaiveEverygirl inexperienced]], [[DrugsAreBad drugged down]], drunk or drugged, intellectually challenged, [[ButLiquorIsQuicker extremely drunk]], [[DudeShesLikeInAComa unconscious]], suffering from StockholmSyndrome StockholmSyndrome, or similar. It might also have to do with [[UnequalPairing the nature of the relationship]]: [[SleepingWithTheBoss a boss and an employee]], [[DoctorsOrders a health care worker and a patient]], [[ParentalIncest a parent and child child]] (even if said child is fully grown)]], grown), [[HotForStudent a teacher and student]], [[SexyPriest a clergyperson and a member of his/her their congregation]], [[DoubleStandardRapeDivineOnMortal a god/goddess and a human or (or other non-divine entity]], entity)]], or something along those lines.



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22nd May '17 3:00:41 PM Eievie
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->''"I'd like to dance with you tonight because we both want to, Jareth--no creepy coercive trickery or impaired consent. Does that work for you?"''
-->-- '''Sarah''' to '''Jareth''', ''Webcomic/GirlsNextDoor'', [[http://pika-la-cynique.deviantart.com/art/GND240-Passe-d-armes-468559406 "Passe d'armes"]]
17th May '17 7:31:10 AM IdumeanPatriot
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* ''Literature/{{Victoria}}'' has Azania's LadyLand conquered, burned and wiped off the face of the earth by its arch-enemy the Northern Confederation, a far-right state that literally keeps its women in the kitchen. The survivors of the lesbian AmazonBrigade are put through reeducation camps, which supposedly make traditional, domestic "real women" of them without any coercion whatsoever... [[DoubleThink And those who resist conversion are sold as slaves.]] Still, the Confederation commander sincerely praises the beauty of it as the re-educated women become "blushing war brides" for his soldiers, and honestly appears completely oblivious to any suggestion that their consent might not have been freely given.
8th May '17 3:12:54 PM infernape612
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* The ending of ''VideoGame/{{HalfLife|1}}'' presents the player with a choice of entering employment of a mysterious being of questionable intentions (and ending up in stasis for 20 years) or certain death.
* In VideoGame/MassEffect2, on Illium, "Indentured Servitude" (which Shepard calls slavery) is an accepted form of employment, particularly for those who accrue large debts. A mini-quest involves a young quarian who is forced to sell herself into indentured servitude/slavery as the only way to escape her debts. Synthetic Insights refuses to hire her with that contract because they view it as immoral, [[GreyAndGrayMorality but her contract holder seems to genuinely care for her]] and wants the quarian to land on her feet.

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* The ending of ''VideoGame/{{HalfLife|1}}'' ''VideoGame/HalfLife1'' presents the player with a choice of entering employment of a mysterious being of questionable intentions (and ending up in stasis for 20 years) or certain death.
* In VideoGame/MassEffect2, ''VideoGame/MassEffect2'', on Illium, "Indentured Servitude" "indentured servitude" (which Shepard calls slavery) is an accepted form of employment, particularly for those who accrue large debts. A mini-quest involves a young quarian who is forced to sell herself into indentured servitude/slavery as the only way to escape her debts. Synthetic Insights refuses to hire her with that contract because they view it as immoral, [[GreyAndGrayMorality but her contract holder seems to genuinely care for her]] and wants the quarian to land on her feet.
6th May '17 12:28:28 PM TimeTravelerJessica
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* In the ''Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine'' episode "Wrongs Darker than Death or Night, Dukat reveals that Kira's mother was his "lover" but given that Kira Meru was essentially abducted and forced into prostitution for the Cardassians and that her children were starving and in need of medicine and Dukat offered to provide for them, QuestionableConsent is probably the [[RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil nicest way to put it.]]
5th May '17 8:50:41 PM Fireblood
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* ''Film/TheMatrix'': As Cypher [[VillainHasAPoint specifically complains]], the whole "red pill vs. blue pill" choice was dishonest. Only if the Matrix was explained in full, [[spoiler:the "real world" not being real at all]], and many, like him, would reject it had they known.

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* ''Film/TheMatrix'': As Cypher [[VillainHasAPoint specifically complains]], the whole "red pill vs. blue pill" choice was dishonest. Only if If the Matrix situation was explained in full, [[spoiler:the "real world" not being real at all]], and many, many people, like him, would reject it had they known.the "real world".
5th May '17 10:03:41 AM hullflyer
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* ''Film/TheMatrix'': As Cypher [[VillainHasAPoint specifically complains]], the whole "red pill vs. blue pill" choice was dishonest. Only the Matrix was explained in full, not the "real world," and many, like him, would reject it had they known.

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* ''Film/TheMatrix'': As Cypher [[VillainHasAPoint specifically complains]], the whole "red pill vs. blue pill" choice was dishonest. Only if the Matrix was explained in full, not the [[spoiler:the "real world," world" not being real at all]], and many, like him, would reject it had they known.
29th Apr '17 12:11:39 PM nombretomado
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* This idea is the most common criticism of Robin Thicke's "Blurred Lines" song and video, [[http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/06/17/blurred-lines-robin-thicke-s-summer-anthem-is-kind-of-rapey.html brought up here]] as well as among reviewers like ToddInTheShadows. In this case the "line" in question appears to be the line of consent.
* In ''Princess Diaries II'', WebVideo/TheNostalgiaCritic almost kisses Hyper twice, but as he and Doug (on the commentary) point out repeatedly, he was only going to because of StockholmSyndrome.

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* This idea is the most common criticism of Robin Thicke's "Blurred Lines" song and video, [[http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/06/17/blurred-lines-robin-thicke-s-summer-anthem-is-kind-of-rapey.html brought up here]] as well as among reviewers like ToddInTheShadows.WebVideo/ToddInTheShadows. In this case the "line" in question appears to be the line of consent.
* In ''Princess Diaries ''Film/ThePrincessDiaries II'', WebVideo/TheNostalgiaCritic almost kisses Hyper twice, but as he and Doug (on the commentary) point out repeatedly, he was only going to because of StockholmSyndrome.
13th Apr '17 9:54:37 PM MJTR
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* ''[[FanFic/AngelOfTheBat Angel of the Bat: Times of Heresy]]'''s 15th chapter is rife with this without ever making it further than second base. Cassandra's girlfriend Sadie initiates the couple's first real sexual contact (undressing Cassandra and playing with her breasts) while constantly asking if Cassandra is comfortable, which she always replies yes to. The mucking comes when one remembers that Cassandra has had no sexual experience and very little education, suggesting she's not entirely aware of what she's getting herself into. ''Further'' complicated by the fact that Sadie has been lied to about Cassie's background and thinks she has had a standard childhood and education and just can't speak English well due to being raised overseas. Sadie does at least stop as soon as she hears Cassie say "no", though Cassandra said it too quietly to be heard the first time, necessatating saying it twice.
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