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Dang it!
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Hiding these until someone can write out a description that can justify their presence on this page (which is why I haven't removed them completely).
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Both are Flame Bait, too.
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These works are often prime targets of SnarkBait and HateDumb. CommonKnowledge is usually ignored in these situations. Works that fall into this have a high tendency to suffer from an AudienceAlienatingPremise. Exposure to a GatewaySeries can ''certainly'' be very helpful to break these prejudices. If a significant title stands out from the perceived "[[GhettoIndex ghettoed]]" group, NoTrueScotsman is often applied to try and distance a well-liked entry from it, with HitlerAteSugar being applied to reinforce the ghetto back onto that entry. Related to PopCulturalOsmosisFailure. See also MistakenForIndex. There even is a kind of meta inversion possible when TooMuchInformation collides with ComplainingAboutShowsYouDontWatch (a LowestCommonDenominator work, you wouldn't touch it at gunpoint, but all media report about it and you can't avoid it).
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* RockMeAsmodeus RockMeAsmodeus: Rock music is evil and the work of the Devil!
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* CommonKnowledgeCommonKnowledge: Frequent assumptions about a work of fiction that are assumed to be accurate when they are actually misconceptions or outright untrue.
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The general public doesn't (always) know that, though -- people who don't play video games think that all games are like the ones they hear about on TV, which would tend to be either ''Wii Sports'' (due to the UsefulNotes/{{Wii}} showing up in retirement communities all over the place), ''Franchise/SuperMarioBros'' (due to Mario's recognizability as a SeriesMascot), ''Franchise/{{Pokemon}}'' (due to the "Pokémania" fad of TheNineties and the much later success of ''VideoGame/PokemonGo''), or the latest "controversial" [[UltraSuperDeathGorefestChainsawer3000 violent]] game that the media [[NewMediaAreEvil love to shove in people's faces]]. If these people are older, [[PacManFever expect their perceptions of video games to be even worse]].
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The general public doesn't (always) know that, though -- — people who don't play video games think that all games are like the ones they hear about on TV, which would tend to be either ''Wii Sports'' (due to the UsefulNotes/{{Wii}} showing up in retirement communities all over the place), ''Franchise/SuperMarioBros'' (due to Mario's recognizability as a SeriesMascot), ''Franchise/{{Pokemon}}'' (due to the "Pokémania" fad of TheNineties and the much later success of ''VideoGame/PokemonGo''), or the latest "controversial" [[UltraSuperDeathGorefestChainsawer3000 violent]] game that the media [[NewMediaAreEvil love to shove in people's faces]]. If these people are older, [[PacManFever expect their perceptions of video games to be even worse]].
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TrueArtIsBoring: It's a good work because it is dull.
**TrueArtIsIncomprehensibleTrueArtIsIncomprehensible: It's a good work because it's composed of MindScrew.
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These works are often prime targets of SnarkBait and HateDumb. CommonKnowledge is usually ignored in these situations. Works that fall into this have a high tendency to suffer from an AudienceAlienatingPremise. Exposure to a GatewaySeries can ''certainly'' be very helpful to break these prejudices. If a significant title stands out from the perceived "[[GhettoIndex ghettoed]]" group, NoTrueScotsman is often applied to try and distance a well-liked entry from it, with HitlerAteSugar being applied to reinforce the ghetto back onto that entry. Related to PopCulturalOsmosisFailure. See also MistakenForIndex.
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These works are often prime targets of SnarkBait and HateDumb. CommonKnowledge is usually ignored in these situations. Works that fall into this have a high tendency to suffer from an AudienceAlienatingPremise. Exposure to a GatewaySeries can ''certainly'' be very helpful to break these prejudices. If a significant title stands out from the perceived "[[GhettoIndex ghettoed]]" group, NoTrueScotsman is often applied to try and distance a well-liked entry from it, with HitlerAteSugar being applied to reinforce the ghetto back onto that entry. Related to PopCulturalOsmosisFailure. See also MistakenForIndex. There even is a kind of meta inversion possible when TooMuchInformation collides with ComplainingAboutShowsYouDontWatch (a LowestCommonDenominator work, you wouldn't touch it at gunpoint, but all media report about it and you can't avoid it).
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* WrongfullyAttributedWrongfullyAttributed: Credit for a work or achievement is wrongly given to individuals or companies that actually had nothing to do with or weren't truly the first to accomplish.
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Heaven save [[TabletopRPG paper Roleplaying Games]], which a significant chunk of the general public has simply ''never heard of,'' or, at best, has some nebulous awareness of D&D, in the same way they have a nebulous awareness of Andorra. [[note]]For the record, UsefulNotes/{{Andorra}} is a small country in Europe, bordered by Spain and France.[[/note]]
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* AllAdultAnimationIsSouthPark
AllAdultAnimationIsSouthPark: The belief that all animated works aimed at adults will feature excessive swearing and vulgar jokes.
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AllAnimationIsDisney: The belief that all noteworthy animated works were made by Creator/{{Disney}}.
*AllAnimeIsNaughtyTentacles
AllAnimeIsNaughtyTentacles: The belief that all anime is nothing but women getting raped by tentacle creatures.
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AluminumChristmasTrees: Something obscure but real is mistaken to be something invented for the work of fiction.
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AnimationAgeGhetto: The belief that animated works are only for children.
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BeamMeUpScotty: A popular catchphrase either doesn't really exist or is actually a misquoted variant of what the character really said.
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GirlShowGhetto: Male audiences aren't interested in works that star and focus on female characters.
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GodNeverSaidThat: People misinterpret what the creator said about the work or believe the creator said it when the creator did not.
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Likewise, comic books are not all about poorly-written {{superhero}}es in garish spandex costumes fighting one-note {{supervillain}}s with outlandish plots (ironically, people are usually thinking of the 1950s/'60s era of comics, which most of them have absolutely no living memory of), nor are they essentially printed versions of [[AdaptationDisplacement superhero movies]] where ComicBook/IronMan is exactly like Creator/RobertDowneyJr and ComicBook/{{Wolverine}} is exactly like Creator/HughJackman. In fact, they haven't even been ''primarily'' about the former since before most of today's comics fans were ''born''. There are a great many comics telling other kinds of stories, such as the numerous indie SliceOfLife comics like ''ComicBook/{{Seconds}}'' or ''ComicBook/AmeliaRules'', the surreal dreamscapes of ''ComicStrip/LittleNemo''. The Japanese {{manga}} scene has many well known titles from different genres, ranging from heartwarming [[{{Romance}} love stories]] such as ''Manga/KimiNiTodoke'', to cute family comedy like ''[[Manga/{{Yotsubato}} Yotsuba&!]]'', to Action-Adventure series such as ''Manga/OnePiece'', to even horror fare like the works of Creator/JunjiIto. Certainly the Super Hero genre itself is much better written than what is stereotypically attributed, and can also differ greatly from your typical Hollywood superhero action-fest: ''ComicBook/{{Watchmen}}'' and ''ComicBook/BatmanTheDarkKnightReturns'' should be proof enough of that. Good luck explaining that to the average person on the street. If you say you like comic books, they'll respond with something like, "So you like Franchise/{{Superman}}, Franchise/{{Batman}} and Franchise/SpiderMan?"[[note]]If you're in UsefulNotes/NorthAmerica, that is; in UsefulNotes/{{Europe}} the response will be more along the lines of, "So you like [[WesternAnimation/DonaldDuck Donald]] [[GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff Duck]] and ComicBook/{{Asterix}}?", and in Japan it may be something like "So you're into Anime/{{Doraemon}} and [[Manga/GeGeGeNoKitaro Kitaro]]?". Keep also in mind that comic books there are much more respected, even if proper literature is considered to be better.[[/note]] Some comics (usually ones dubbed "{{graphic novel}}s" to eliminate this very problem), like the autobiographical ''ComicBook/FunHome'' or the aforementioned ''ComicBook/{{Watchmen}}'', have won awards for their artistry and originality. But the general public doesn't know about that, and thinks that the only "artistic" superhero thing in existence is ''Film/TheDarkKnightSaga''. [[note]] Which is itself a disservice to Tim Burton's version of ''Batman'', which was also supposed to be artistic, but which [[ItWillNeverCatchOn many people at the time simply weren't ready for and dismissed as trash]]. [[/note]]
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Likewise, comic books are not all about poorly-written {{superhero}}es in garish spandex costumes fighting one-note {{supervillain}}s with outlandish plots (ironically, people are usually thinking of the 1950s/'60s era of comics, which most of them have absolutely no living memory of), nor are they essentially printed versions of [[AdaptationDisplacement superhero movies]] where ComicBook/IronMan is exactly like Creator/RobertDowneyJr and ComicBook/{{Wolverine}} is exactly like Creator/HughJackman. In fact, they haven't even been ''primarily'' about the former since before most of today's comics fans were ''born''. There are a great many comics telling other kinds of stories, such as the numerous indie SliceOfLife comics like ''ComicBook/{{Seconds}}'' or ''ComicBook/AmeliaRules'', the surreal dreamscapes of ''ComicStrip/LittleNemo''. The Japanese {{manga}} scene has many well known titles from different genres, ranging from heartwarming [[{{Romance}} love stories]] such as ''Manga/KimiNiTodoke'', to cute family comedy like ''[[Manga/{{Yotsubato}} Yotsuba&!]]'', to Action-Adventure series such as ''Manga/OnePiece'', to even horror fare like the works of Creator/JunjiIto. Certainly the Super Hero genre itself is much better written than what is stereotypically attributed, and can also differ greatly from your typical Hollywood superhero action-fest: ''ComicBook/{{Watchmen}}'' and ''ComicBook/BatmanTheDarkKnightReturns'' should be proof enough of that. Good luck explaining that to the average person on the street. If you say you like comic books, they'll respond with something like, "So you like Franchise/{{Superman}}, Franchise/{{Batman}} and Franchise/SpiderMan?"[[note]]If you're in UsefulNotes/NorthAmerica, that is; in UsefulNotes/{{Europe}} the response will be more along the lines of, "So you like [[WesternAnimation/DonaldDuck Donald]] [[GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff Duck]] and ComicBook/{{Asterix}}?", and in Japan it may be something like "So you're into Anime/{{Doraemon}} and [[Manga/GeGeGeNoKitaro Kitaro]]?". Keep also in mind that comic books there are much more respected, even if proper literature is considered to be better.[[/note]] Some comics (usually ones dubbed "{{graphic novel}}s" to eliminate this very problem), like the autobiographical ''ComicBook/FunHome'' or the aforementioned ''ComicBook/{{Watchmen}}'', have won awards for their artistry and originality. But the general public doesn't know about that, and thinks that the only "artistic" superhero thing in existence is ''Film/TheDarkKnightSaga''.''Film/TheDarkKnightTrilogy''. [[note]] Which is itself a disservice to Tim Burton's version of ''Batman'', which was also supposed to be artistic, but which [[ItWillNeverCatchOn many people at the time simply weren't ready for and dismissed as trash]]. [[/note]]
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The public at large has these prejudices and preconceptions. But this trope can also be an example of a prejudice in itself against the general public. In some cases this trope can be true, but it is also equally possible the larger public is aware of diversity and just isn't blabbing about it with the people who really love it. In the past we determined what was known by what people actually sat around talking about. Nowadays when you can gather with people that do all want to talk about this or that, the lines between what is a majority/minority and what the general public knows is blurred beyond repair.
These works are often prime targets of SnarkBait and HateDumb. CommonKnowledge is usually ignored in these situations. Works that fall into this have a high tendency to suffer from an AudienceAlienatingPremise. Exposure to a GatewaySeries can certainly be ''very'' helpful to break these prejudices. If a significant title stands out from the perceived "[[GhettoIndex ghettoed]]" group, the NoTrueScotsman is often applied to try and distance a well-liked entry from it, or the HitlerAteSugar is often applied to reinforce the ghetto back into that entry. Related to PopCulturalOsmosisFailure. See also MistakenForIndex.
These works are often prime targets of SnarkBait and HateDumb. CommonKnowledge is usually ignored in these situations. Works that fall into this have a high tendency to suffer from an AudienceAlienatingPremise. Exposure to a GatewaySeries can certainly be ''very'' helpful to break these prejudices. If a significant title stands out from the perceived "[[GhettoIndex ghettoed]]" group, the NoTrueScotsman is often applied to try and distance a well-liked entry from it, or the HitlerAteSugar is often applied to reinforce the ghetto back into that entry. Related to PopCulturalOsmosisFailure. See also MistakenForIndex.
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The public at large has these prejudices and preconceptions. But this trope can also be an example of a prejudice in itself against the general public. In some cases this trope can be true, but it is also equally possible the larger public is aware of diversity and just isn't blabbing about it with the people who really love it. In the past past, we determined what was known by what people actually sat around talking about. Nowadays Nowadays, when you can gather with people that do all want to talk about this or that, the lines line between what is a majority/minority and what the general public knows is blurred beyond repair.
These works are often prime targets of SnarkBait and HateDumb. CommonKnowledge is usually ignored in these situations. Works that fall into this have a high tendency to suffer from an AudienceAlienatingPremise. Exposure to a GatewaySeries cancertainly ''certainly'' be ''very'' very helpful to break these prejudices. If a significant title stands out from the perceived "[[GhettoIndex ghettoed]]" group, the NoTrueScotsman is often applied to try and distance a well-liked entry from it, or the with HitlerAteSugar is often being applied to reinforce the ghetto back into onto that entry. Related to PopCulturalOsmosisFailure. See also MistakenForIndex.
These works are often prime targets of SnarkBait and HateDumb. CommonKnowledge is usually ignored in these situations. Works that fall into this have a high tendency to suffer from an AudienceAlienatingPremise. Exposure to a GatewaySeries can
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This is especially true for anime. On the public eye, anime is either associated with the AnimationAgeGhetto and series that were marketed to kids - ''Anime/SailorMoon'', ''Manga/DragonBall'' and ''Anime/DragonBallZ'', ''Anime/{{Pokemon}}'', ''Franchise/YuGiOh'', and maybe ''Manga/{{Naruto}}'',''Manga/MyHeroAcademia'' and the ''Creator/StudioGhibli'' Library if you're lucky - or with [[AllAnimeIsNaughtyTentacles sordid, lecherous]] {{hentai}}. Thanks to the spiked interest during the 2010s, it now ''also'' has the stigma of being for geeks shelling out [[CrackIsCheaper half their paycheck]] to get two episode's worth of content. And the dialogue is either poor dubbing along the lines of ''Anime/SpeedRacer,'' or blatant BlindIdiotTranslation.
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This is especially true for anime. On the public eye, anime is either associated with the AnimationAgeGhetto and series that were marketed to kids - ''Anime/SailorMoon'', ''Manga/DragonBall'' and ''Anime/DragonBallZ'', ''Anime/{{Pokemon}}'', ''Franchise/YuGiOh'', and maybe ''Manga/{{Naruto}}'',''Manga/MyHeroAcademia'' ''Manga/{{Naruto}}'', ''Manga/MyHeroAcademia'', and the ''Creator/StudioGhibli'' Library if you're lucky - or with [[AllAnimeIsNaughtyTentacles sordid, lecherous]] {{hentai}}. Thanks to the spiked interest during the 2010s, it now ''also'' has the stigma of being for geeks shelling out [[CrackIsCheaper half their paycheck]] to get two episode's worth of content. And the dialogue is either poor dubbing along the lines of ''Anime/SpeedRacer,'' or blatant BlindIdiotTranslation.
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This is especially true for anime. On the public eye, anime is either associated with the AnimationAgeGhetto and series that were marketed to kids - ''Anime/SailorMoon'', ''Manga/DragonBall'' and ''Anime/DragonBallZ'', ''Anime/{{Pokemon}}'', ''Franchise/YuGiOh'', and maybe ''Manga/{{Naruto}}'', ''Manga/{{BokuNoHeroAcadamia}}'' and the ''Creator/StudioGhibli'' Library if you're lucky - or with [[AllAnimeIsNaughtyTentacles sordid, lecherous]] {{hentai}}. Thanks to the spiked interest during the 2010s, it now ''also'' has the stigma of being for geeks shelling out [[CrackIsCheaper half their paycheck]] to get two episode's worth of content. And the dialogue is either poor dubbing along the lines of ''Anime/SpeedRacer,'' or blatant BlindIdiotTranslation.
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This is especially true for anime. On the public eye, anime is either associated with the AnimationAgeGhetto and series that were marketed to kids - ''Anime/SailorMoon'', ''Manga/DragonBall'' and ''Anime/DragonBallZ'', ''Anime/{{Pokemon}}'', ''Franchise/YuGiOh'', and maybe ''Manga/{{Naruto}}'', ''Manga/{{BokuNoHeroAcadamia}}'' ''Manga/{{Naruto}}'',''Manga/MyHeroAcademia'' and the ''Creator/StudioGhibli'' Library if you're lucky - or with [[AllAnimeIsNaughtyTentacles sordid, lecherous]] {{hentai}}. Thanks to the spiked interest during the 2010s, it now ''also'' has the stigma of being for geeks shelling out [[CrackIsCheaper half their paycheck]] to get two episode's worth of content. And the dialogue is either poor dubbing along the lines of ''Anime/SpeedRacer,'' or blatant BlindIdiotTranslation.
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This is especially true for anime. On the public eye, anime is either associated with the AnimationAgeGhetto and series that were marketed to kids - ''Anime/SailorMoon'', ''Manga/DragonBall'' and ''Anime/DragonBallZ'', ''Anime/{{Pokemon}}'', ''Franchise/YuGiOh'', and maybe ''Manga/{{Naruto}}'', ''Manga/{{MyHeroAcadamia}}'' and the ''Creator/StudioGhibli'' Library if you're lucky - or with [[AllAnimeIsNaughtyTentacles sordid, lecherous]] {{hentai}}. Thanks to the spiked interest during the 2010s, it now ''also'' has the stigma of being for geeks shelling out [[CrackIsCheaper half their paycheck]] to get two episode's worth of content. And the dialogue is either poor dubbing along the lines of ''Anime/SpeedRacer,'' or blatant BlindIdiotTranslation.
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This is especially true for anime. On the public eye, anime is either associated with the AnimationAgeGhetto and series that were marketed to kids - ''Anime/SailorMoon'', ''Manga/DragonBall'' and ''Anime/DragonBallZ'', ''Anime/{{Pokemon}}'', ''Franchise/YuGiOh'', and maybe ''Manga/{{Naruto}}'', ''Manga/{{MyHeroAcadamia}}'' ''Manga/{{BokuNoHeroAcadamia}}'' and the ''Creator/StudioGhibli'' Library if you're lucky - or with [[AllAnimeIsNaughtyTentacles sordid, lecherous]] {{hentai}}. Thanks to the spiked interest during the 2010s, it now ''also'' has the stigma of being for geeks shelling out [[CrackIsCheaper half their paycheck]] to get two episode's worth of content. And the dialogue is either poor dubbing along the lines of ''Anime/SpeedRacer,'' or blatant BlindIdiotTranslation.
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This is especially true for anime. On the public eye, anime is either associated with the AnimationAgeGhetto and series that were marketed to kids - ''Anime/SailorMoon'', ''Manga/DragonBall'' and ''Anime/DragonBallZ'', ''Anime/{{Pokemon}}'', ''Franchise/YuGiOh'', and maybe ''Manga/{{Naruto}}'' and the ''Creator/StudioGhibli'' Library if you're lucky - or with [[AllAnimeIsNaughtyTentacles sordid, lecherous]] {{hentai}}. Thanks to the spiked interest during the 2010s, it now ''also'' has the stigma of being for geeks shelling out [[CrackIsCheaper half their paycheck]] to get two episode's worth of content. And the dialogue is either poor dubbing along the lines of ''Anime/SpeedRacer,'' or blatant BlindIdiotTranslation.
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This is especially true for anime. On the public eye, anime is either associated with the AnimationAgeGhetto and series that were marketed to kids - ''Anime/SailorMoon'', ''Manga/DragonBall'' and ''Anime/DragonBallZ'', ''Anime/{{Pokemon}}'', ''Franchise/YuGiOh'', and maybe ''Manga/{{Naruto}}'' ''Manga/{{Naruto}}'', ''Manga/{{MyHeroAcadamia}}'' and the ''Creator/StudioGhibli'' Library if you're lucky - or with [[AllAnimeIsNaughtyTentacles sordid, lecherous]] {{hentai}}. Thanks to the spiked interest during the 2010s, it now ''also'' has the stigma of being for geeks shelling out [[CrackIsCheaper half their paycheck]] to get two episode's worth of content. And the dialogue is either poor dubbing along the lines of ''Anime/SpeedRacer,'' or blatant BlindIdiotTranslation.
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Likewise, comic books are not all about poorly-written {{superhero}}es in garish spandex costumes fighting one-note {{supervillain}}s with outlandish plots (ironically, people are usually thinking of the 1950s/'60s era of comics, which most of them have absolutely no living memory of), nor are they essentially printed versions of [[AdaptationDisplacement superhero movies]] where ComicBook/IronMan is exactly like Creator/RobertDowneyJr and ComicBook/{{Wolverine}} is exactly like Creator/HughJackman. In fact, they haven't even been ''primarily'' about the former since before most of today's comics fans were ''born''. There are a great many comics telling other kinds of stories, such as the numerous indie SliceOfLife comics like ''ComicBook/{{Seconds}}'' or ''ComicBook/AmeliaRules'', the surreal dreamscapes of ''ComicStrip/LittleNemo''. The Japanese {{manga}} scene has many well known titles from different genres, ranging from heartwarming [[{{Romance}} love stories]] such as Manga/KimiNiTodoke, to cute family comedy like ''[[Manga/{{Yotsubato}} Yotsuba&!]]'', to Action-Adventure series such as Manga/OnePiece, to even horror fare like the works of Creator/JunjiIto. Certainly the Super Hero genre itself is much better written than what is stereotypically attributed, and can also differ greatly from your typical Hollywood superhero action-fest: ''ComicBook/{{Watchmen}}'' and ''ComicBook/BatmanTheDarkKnightReturns'' should be proof enough of that. Good luck explaining that to the average person on the street. If you say you like comic books, they'll respond with something like, "So you like Franchise/{{Superman}}, Franchise/{{Batman}} and Franchise/SpiderMan?"[[note]]If you're in UsefulNotes/NorthAmerica, that is; in UsefulNotes/{{Europe}} the response will be more along the lines of, "So you like [[WesternAnimation/DonaldDuck Donald]] [[GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff Duck]] and ComicBook/{{Asterix}}?", and in Japan it may be something like "So you're into Anime/{{Doraemon}} or [[Manga/GeGeGeNoKitaro Kitaro]]?". Keep also in mind that comic books there are much more respected, even if proper literature is considered to be better.[[/note]] Some comics (usually ones dubbed "{{graphic novel}}s" to eliminate this very problem), like the autobiographical ''ComicBook/FunHome'' or the aforementioned ''ComicBook/{{Watchmen}}'', have won awards for their artistry and originality. But the general public doesn't know about that, and thinks that the only "artistic" superhero thing in existence is ''Film/TheDarkKnightSaga''. [[note]] Which is itself a disservice to Tim Burton's version of ''Batman'', which was also supposed to be artistic, but which [[ItWillNeverCatchOn many people at the time simply weren't ready for and dismissed as trash]]. [[/note]]
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Likewise, comic books are not all about poorly-written {{superhero}}es in garish spandex costumes fighting one-note {{supervillain}}s with outlandish plots (ironically, people are usually thinking of the 1950s/'60s era of comics, which most of them have absolutely no living memory of), nor are they essentially printed versions of [[AdaptationDisplacement superhero movies]] where ComicBook/IronMan is exactly like Creator/RobertDowneyJr and ComicBook/{{Wolverine}} is exactly like Creator/HughJackman. In fact, they haven't even been ''primarily'' about the former since before most of today's comics fans were ''born''. There are a great many comics telling other kinds of stories, such as the numerous indie SliceOfLife comics like ''ComicBook/{{Seconds}}'' or ''ComicBook/AmeliaRules'', the surreal dreamscapes of ''ComicStrip/LittleNemo''. The Japanese {{manga}} scene has many well known titles from different genres, ranging from heartwarming [[{{Romance}} love stories]] such as Manga/KimiNiTodoke, ''Manga/KimiNiTodoke'', to cute family comedy like ''[[Manga/{{Yotsubato}} Yotsuba&!]]'', to Action-Adventure series such as Manga/OnePiece, ''Manga/OnePiece'', to even horror fare like the works of Creator/JunjiIto. Certainly the Super Hero genre itself is much better written than what is stereotypically attributed, and can also differ greatly from your typical Hollywood superhero action-fest: ''ComicBook/{{Watchmen}}'' and ''ComicBook/BatmanTheDarkKnightReturns'' should be proof enough of that. Good luck explaining that to the average person on the street. If you say you like comic books, they'll respond with something like, "So you like Franchise/{{Superman}}, Franchise/{{Batman}} and Franchise/SpiderMan?"[[note]]If you're in UsefulNotes/NorthAmerica, that is; in UsefulNotes/{{Europe}} the response will be more along the lines of, "So you like [[WesternAnimation/DonaldDuck Donald]] [[GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff Duck]] and ComicBook/{{Asterix}}?", and in Japan it may be something like "So you're into Anime/{{Doraemon}} or and [[Manga/GeGeGeNoKitaro Kitaro]]?". Keep also in mind that comic books there are much more respected, even if proper literature is considered to be better.[[/note]] Some comics (usually ones dubbed "{{graphic novel}}s" to eliminate this very problem), like the autobiographical ''ComicBook/FunHome'' or the aforementioned ''ComicBook/{{Watchmen}}'', have won awards for their artistry and originality. But the general public doesn't know about that, and thinks that the only "artistic" superhero thing in existence is ''Film/TheDarkKnightSaga''. [[note]] Which is itself a disservice to Tim Burton's version of ''Batman'', which was also supposed to be artistic, but which [[ItWillNeverCatchOn many people at the time simply weren't ready for and dismissed as trash]]. [[/note]]
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Likewise, comic books are not all about poorly-written {{superhero}}es in garish spandex costumes fighting one-note {{supervillain}}s with outlandish plots (ironically, people are usually thinking of the 1950s/'60s era of comics, which most of them have absolutely no living memory of), nor are they essentially printed versions of [[AdaptationDisplacement superhero movies]] where ComicBook/IronMan is exactly like Creator/RobertDowneyJr and ComicBook/{{Wolverine}} is exactly like Creator/HughJackman. In fact, they haven't even been ''primarily'' about the former since before most of today's comics fans were ''born''. There are a great many comics telling other kinds of stories, such as the numerous indie SliceOfLife comics like ''ComicBook/{{Seconds}}'' or ''ComicBook/AmeliaRules'', the surreal dreamscapes of ''NewspaperComic/LittleNemo''. The Japanese {{manga}} scene has many well known titles from different genres, ranging from heartwarming [[{{Romance}} love stories]] such as Manga/KimiNiTodoke, to cute family comedy like ''[[Manga/{{Yotsubato}} Yotsuba&!]]'', to Action-Adventure series such as Manga/OnePiece, to even horror fare like the works of Creator/JunjiIto. Certainly the Super Hero genre itself is much better written than what is stereotypically attributed, and can also differ greatly from your typical Hollywood superhero action-fest: ''ComicBook/{{Watchmen}}'' and ''ComicBook/BatmanTheDarkKnightReturns'' should be proof enough of that. Good luck explaining that to the average person on the street. If you say you like comic books, they'll respond with something like, "So you like Franchise/{{Superman}}, Franchise/{{Batman}} and Franchise/SpiderMan?"[[note]]If you're in UsefulNotes/NorthAmerica, that is; in UsefulNotes/{{Europe}} the response will be more along the lines of, "So you like [[WesternAnimation/DonaldDuck Donald]] [[GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff Duck]] and ComicBook/{{Asterix}}?", and in Japan it may be something like "So you're into Anime/{{Doraemon}} or [[Manga/GeGeGeNoKitaro Kitaro]]?". Keep also in mind that comic books there are much more respected, even if proper literature is considered to be better.[[/note]] Some comics (usually ones dubbed "{{graphic novel}}s" to eliminate this very problem), like the autobiographical ''ComicBook/FunHome'' or the aforementioned ''ComicBook/{{Watchmen}}'', have won awards for their artistry and originality. But the general public doesn't know about that, and thinks that the only "artistic" superhero thing in existence is ''Film/TheDarkKnightSaga''. [[note]] Which is itself a disservice to Tim Burton's version of ''Batman'', which was also supposed to be artistic, but which [[ItWillNeverCatchOn many people at the time simply weren't ready for and dismissed as trash]]. [[/note]]
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Likewise, comic books are not all about poorly-written {{superhero}}es in garish spandex costumes fighting one-note {{supervillain}}s with outlandish plots (ironically, people are usually thinking of the 1950s/'60s era of comics, which most of them have absolutely no living memory of), nor are they essentially printed versions of [[AdaptationDisplacement superhero movies]] where ComicBook/IronMan is exactly like Creator/RobertDowneyJr and ComicBook/{{Wolverine}} is exactly like Creator/HughJackman. In fact, they haven't even been ''primarily'' about the former since before most of today's comics fans were ''born''. There are a great many comics telling other kinds of stories, such as the numerous indie SliceOfLife comics like ''ComicBook/{{Seconds}}'' or ''ComicBook/AmeliaRules'', the surreal dreamscapes of ''NewspaperComic/LittleNemo''.''ComicStrip/LittleNemo''. The Japanese {{manga}} scene has many well known titles from different genres, ranging from heartwarming [[{{Romance}} love stories]] such as Manga/KimiNiTodoke, to cute family comedy like ''[[Manga/{{Yotsubato}} Yotsuba&!]]'', to Action-Adventure series such as Manga/OnePiece, to even horror fare like the works of Creator/JunjiIto. Certainly the Super Hero genre itself is much better written than what is stereotypically attributed, and can also differ greatly from your typical Hollywood superhero action-fest: ''ComicBook/{{Watchmen}}'' and ''ComicBook/BatmanTheDarkKnightReturns'' should be proof enough of that. Good luck explaining that to the average person on the street. If you say you like comic books, they'll respond with something like, "So you like Franchise/{{Superman}}, Franchise/{{Batman}} and Franchise/SpiderMan?"[[note]]If you're in UsefulNotes/NorthAmerica, that is; in UsefulNotes/{{Europe}} the response will be more along the lines of, "So you like [[WesternAnimation/DonaldDuck Donald]] [[GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff Duck]] and ComicBook/{{Asterix}}?", and in Japan it may be something like "So you're into Anime/{{Doraemon}} or [[Manga/GeGeGeNoKitaro Kitaro]]?". Keep also in mind that comic books there are much more respected, even if proper literature is considered to be better.[[/note]] Some comics (usually ones dubbed "{{graphic novel}}s" to eliminate this very problem), like the autobiographical ''ComicBook/FunHome'' or the aforementioned ''ComicBook/{{Watchmen}}'', have won awards for their artistry and originality. But the general public doesn't know about that, and thinks that the only "artistic" superhero thing in existence is ''Film/TheDarkKnightSaga''. [[note]] Which is itself a disservice to Tim Burton's version of ''Batman'', which was also supposed to be artistic, but which [[ItWillNeverCatchOn many people at the time simply weren't ready for and dismissed as trash]]. [[/note]]
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Likewise, comic books are not all about poorly-written {{superhero}}es in garish spandex costumes fighting one-note {{supervillain}}s with outlandish plots (ironically, people are usually thinking of the 1950s/'60s era of comics, which most of them have absolutely no living memory of), nor are they essentially printed versions of [[AdaptationDisplacement superhero movies]] where ComicBook/IronMan is exactly like Creator/RobertDowneyJr and ComicBook/{{Wolverine}} is exactly like Creator/HughJackman. In fact, they haven't even been ''primarily'' about the former since before most of today's comics fans were ''born''. There are a great many comics telling other kinds of stories, such as the numerous indie SliceOfLife comics like ''ComicBook/{{Seconds}}'' or ''ComicBook/AmeliaRules'', the surreal dreamscapes of ''NewspaperComic/LittleNemo''. The Japanese {{manga}} scene has many well known titles from different genres, ranging from heartwarming [[{{Romance}} love stories]] such as Manga/KimiNiTodoke, to cute family comedy like ''[[Manga/{{Yotsubato}} Yotsuba&!]]'', to Action-Adventure series such as Manga/OnePiece, to even horror fare like the works of Creator/JunjiIto. Certainly the Super Hero genre itself is much better written than what is stereotypically attributed, and can also differ greatly from your typical Hollywood superhero action-fest: ''ComicBook/{{Watchmen}}'' and ''ComicBook/BatmanTheDarkKnightReturns'' should be proof enough of that. Good luck explaining that to the average person on the street. If you say you like comic books, they'll respond with something like, "So you like Franchise/{{Superman}}, Franchise/{{Batman}} and Franchise/SpiderMan?"[[note]]If you're in NorthAmerica, that is; in UsefulNotes/{{Europe}} the response will be more along the lines of, "So you like [[WesternAnimation/DonaldDuck Donald]] [[GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff Duck]] and ComicBook/{{Asterix}}?", and in Japan it may be something like "So you're into Anime/{{Doraemon}} or [[Manga/GeGeGeNoKitaro Kitaro]]?" Keep also in mind that comic books there are much more respected, even if proper literature is considered to be better.[[/note]] Some comics (usually ones dubbed "{{graphic novel}}s" to eliminate this very problem), like the autobiographical ''ComicBook/FunHome'' or the aforementioned ''ComicBook/{{Watchmen}}'', have won awards for their artistry and originality. But the general public doesn't know about that, and thinks that the only "artistic" superhero thing in existence is ''Film/TheDarkKnightSaga''. [[note]] Which is itself a disservice to Tim Burton's version of ''Batman'', which was also supposed to be artistic, but which [[ItWillNeverCatchOn many people at the time simply weren't ready for and dismissed as trash]]. [[/note]]
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Likewise, comic books are not all about poorly-written {{superhero}}es in garish spandex costumes fighting one-note {{supervillain}}s with outlandish plots (ironically, people are usually thinking of the 1950s/'60s era of comics, which most of them have absolutely no living memory of), nor are they essentially printed versions of [[AdaptationDisplacement superhero movies]] where ComicBook/IronMan is exactly like Creator/RobertDowneyJr and ComicBook/{{Wolverine}} is exactly like Creator/HughJackman. In fact, they haven't even been ''primarily'' about the former since before most of today's comics fans were ''born''. There are a great many comics telling other kinds of stories, such as the numerous indie SliceOfLife comics like ''ComicBook/{{Seconds}}'' or ''ComicBook/AmeliaRules'', the surreal dreamscapes of ''NewspaperComic/LittleNemo''. The Japanese {{manga}} scene has many well known titles from different genres, ranging from heartwarming [[{{Romance}} love stories]] such as Manga/KimiNiTodoke, to cute family comedy like ''[[Manga/{{Yotsubato}} Yotsuba&!]]'', to Action-Adventure series such as Manga/OnePiece, to even horror fare like the works of Creator/JunjiIto. Certainly the Super Hero genre itself is much better written than what is stereotypically attributed, and can also differ greatly from your typical Hollywood superhero action-fest: ''ComicBook/{{Watchmen}}'' and ''ComicBook/BatmanTheDarkKnightReturns'' should be proof enough of that. Good luck explaining that to the average person on the street. If you say you like comic books, they'll respond with something like, "So you like Franchise/{{Superman}}, Franchise/{{Batman}} and Franchise/SpiderMan?"[[note]]If you're in NorthAmerica, UsefulNotes/NorthAmerica, that is; in UsefulNotes/{{Europe}} the response will be more along the lines of, "So you like [[WesternAnimation/DonaldDuck Donald]] [[GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff Duck]] and ComicBook/{{Asterix}}?", and in Japan it may be something like "So you're into Anime/{{Doraemon}} or [[Manga/GeGeGeNoKitaro Kitaro]]?" Kitaro]]?". Keep also in mind that comic books there are much more respected, even if proper literature is considered to be better.[[/note]] Some comics (usually ones dubbed "{{graphic novel}}s" to eliminate this very problem), like the autobiographical ''ComicBook/FunHome'' or the aforementioned ''ComicBook/{{Watchmen}}'', have won awards for their artistry and originality. But the general public doesn't know about that, and thinks that the only "artistic" superhero thing in existence is ''Film/TheDarkKnightSaga''. [[note]] Which is itself a disservice to Tim Burton's version of ''Batman'', which was also supposed to be artistic, but which [[ItWillNeverCatchOn many people at the time simply weren't ready for and dismissed as trash]]. [[/note]]
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Likewise, comic books are not all about poorly-written {{superhero}}es in garish spandex costumes fighting one-note {{supervillain}}s with outlandish plots (ironically, people are usually thinking of the 1950s/'60s era of comics, which most of them have absolutely no living memory of), nor are they essentially printed versions of [[AdaptationDisplacement superhero movies]] where ComicBook/IronMan is exactly like Creator/RobertDowneyJr and ComicBook/{{Wolverine}} is exactly like Creator/HughJackman. In fact, they haven't even been ''primarily'' about the former since before most of today's comics fans were ''born''. There are a great many comics telling other kinds of stories, such as the numerous indie SliceOfLife comics such as the cute family comedy ''[[Manga/{{Yotsubato}} Yotsuba&!]]'' and various other {{manga}} ranging from heartwarming [[{{Romance}} love stories]] such as Manga/KimiNiTodoke to Action-Adventure series such as Manga/OnePiece. Certainly the Super Hero genre itself is much better written than what is stereotypically attributed, and can also differ greatly from your typical Hollywood superhero action-fest: ''ComicBook/{{Watchmen}}'' and ''ComicBook/BatmanTheDarkKnightReturns'' should be proof enough of that. Good luck explaining that to the average person on the street. If you say you like comic books, they'll respond with something like, "So you like Franchise/{{Superman}}, Franchise/{{Batman}} and Franchise/SpiderMan?"[[note]]If you're in NorthAmerica, that is; in UsefulNotes/{{Europe}} the response will be more along the lines of, "So you like [[WesternAnimation/DonaldDuck Donald]] [[GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff Duck]] and ComicBook/{{Asterix}}?" Keep also in mind that comic books there are much more respected, even if proper literature is considered to be better.[[/note]] Some comics (usually ones dubbed "{{graphic novel}}s" to eliminate this very problem), like the autobiographical ''ComicBook/FunHome'' or the aforementioned ''ComicBook/{{Watchmen}}'', have won awards for their artistry and originality. But the general public doesn't know about that, and thinks that the only "artistic" superhero thing in existence is ''Film/TheDarkKnightSaga''. [[note]] Which is itself a disservice to Tim Burton's version of ''Batman'', which was also supposed to be artistic, but which [[ItWillNeverCatchOn many people at the time simply weren't ready for and dismissed as trash]]. [[/note]]
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Likewise, comic books are not all about poorly-written {{superhero}}es in garish spandex costumes fighting one-note {{supervillain}}s with outlandish plots (ironically, people are usually thinking of the 1950s/'60s era of comics, which most of them have absolutely no living memory of), nor are they essentially printed versions of [[AdaptationDisplacement superhero movies]] where ComicBook/IronMan is exactly like Creator/RobertDowneyJr and ComicBook/{{Wolverine}} is exactly like Creator/HughJackman. In fact, they haven't even been ''primarily'' about the former since before most of today's comics fans were ''born''. There are a great many comics telling other kinds of stories, such as the numerous indie SliceOfLife comics such as like ''ComicBook/{{Seconds}}'' or ''ComicBook/AmeliaRules'', the cute family comedy ''[[Manga/{{Yotsubato}} Yotsuba&!]]'' and various other surreal dreamscapes of ''NewspaperComic/LittleNemo''. The Japanese {{manga}} scene has many well known titles from different genres, ranging from heartwarming [[{{Romance}} love stories]] such as Manga/KimiNiTodoke Manga/KimiNiTodoke, to cute family comedy like ''[[Manga/{{Yotsubato}} Yotsuba&!]]'', to Action-Adventure series such as Manga/OnePiece.Manga/OnePiece, to even horror fare like the works of Creator/JunjiIto. Certainly the Super Hero genre itself is much better written than what is stereotypically attributed, and can also differ greatly from your typical Hollywood superhero action-fest: ''ComicBook/{{Watchmen}}'' and ''ComicBook/BatmanTheDarkKnightReturns'' should be proof enough of that. Good luck explaining that to the average person on the street. If you say you like comic books, they'll respond with something like, "So you like Franchise/{{Superman}}, Franchise/{{Batman}} and Franchise/SpiderMan?"[[note]]If you're in NorthAmerica, that is; in UsefulNotes/{{Europe}} the response will be more along the lines of, "So you like [[WesternAnimation/DonaldDuck Donald]] [[GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff Duck]] and ComicBook/{{Asterix}}?" ComicBook/{{Asterix}}?", and in Japan it may be something like "So you're into Anime/{{Doraemon}} or [[Manga/GeGeGeNoKitaro Kitaro]]?" Keep also in mind that comic books there are much more respected, even if proper literature is considered to be better.[[/note]] Some comics (usually ones dubbed "{{graphic novel}}s" to eliminate this very problem), like the autobiographical ''ComicBook/FunHome'' or the aforementioned ''ComicBook/{{Watchmen}}'', have won awards for their artistry and originality. But the general public doesn't know about that, and thinks that the only "artistic" superhero thing in existence is ''Film/TheDarkKnightSaga''. [[note]] Which is itself a disservice to Tim Burton's version of ''Batman'', which was also supposed to be artistic, but which [[ItWillNeverCatchOn many people at the time simply weren't ready for and dismissed as trash]]. [[/note]]
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This is especially true for anime. On the public eye, anime is either associated with the AnimationAgeGhetto and series that were marketed to kids - ''Anime/SailorMoon'', ''Manga/DragonBall'' and ''Anime/DragonBallZ'', ''Anime/{{Pokemon}}'', ''Franchise/YuGiOh'', and maybe ''Manga/{{Naruto}}'' and the ''Creator/StudioGhibli'' Library if you're lucky - or with [[AllAnimeIsNaughtyTentacles sordid, lecherous]] {{hentai}}. And the dialogue is either poor dubbing along the lines of ''Anime/SpeedRacer,'' or blatant BlindIdiotTranslation.
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This is especially true for anime. On the public eye, anime is either associated with the AnimationAgeGhetto and series that were marketed to kids - ''Anime/SailorMoon'', ''Manga/DragonBall'' and ''Anime/DragonBallZ'', ''Anime/{{Pokemon}}'', ''Franchise/YuGiOh'', and maybe ''Manga/{{Naruto}}'' and the ''Creator/StudioGhibli'' Library if you're lucky - or with [[AllAnimeIsNaughtyTentacles sordid, lecherous]] {{hentai}}. Thanks to the spiked interest during the 2010s, it now ''also'' has the stigma of being for geeks shelling out [[CrackIsCheaper half their paycheck]] to get two episode's worth of content. And the dialogue is either poor dubbing along the lines of ''Anime/SpeedRacer,'' or blatant BlindIdiotTranslation.