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* In the ''GoodOmens'' fanfic FanFic/TheSacredAndTheProfane, 'Zirah' (Aziriphale) is a chillingly ruthless PsychoSidekick to 'Caphriel' (Crowley), [[spoiler:who ends up having to kill him to protect Adam]].


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* In the ''GoodOmens'' ''Literature/GoodOmens'' fanfic FanFic/TheSacredAndTheProfane, 'Zirah' (Aziriphale) is a chillingly ruthless PsychoSidekick to 'Caphriel' (Crowley), [[spoiler:who ends up having to kill him to protect Adam]].

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Note that if they're [[AxeCrazy actually psycho]], the arrangement really won't work.

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Note that if they're [[AxeCrazy actually psycho]], the arrangement really usually won't work.
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* Bruce Wayne's son Damian tries to become the psycho equivalent of Robin to Batman, to the point of trying to dispose of Tim Drake in his first appearance. [[spoiler: Now that Bruce is dead, Damian really ''is'' serving as Robin to Dick Grayson's Batman, and Dick has his hands full trying to teach Damian proper restraint.]]

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* Bruce Wayne's son Damian tries to become the psycho equivalent of Robin to Batman, to the point of trying to dispose of Tim Drake in his first appearance. [[spoiler: Now that While Bruce is was thought dead, Damian really ''is'' serving served as Robin to Dick Grayson's Batman, and Dick has had his hands full trying to teach Damian proper restraint.restraint. And in the Nu52 DC, Damian is Robin to Bruce.]]



* Walter Sobchak form ''TheBigLebowski'' is The Dude's best friend and a walking BerserkButton.

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* Walter Sobchak form from ''TheBigLebowski'' is The Dude's best friend and a walking BerserkButton.
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* ''DoctorWho'': Leela (and K-9, a bit). While the Doctor sometimes criticises her violence ineffectually, he doesn't often intervene to stop it when its useful. Subverted with Ace, in that a vague description of the dynamic between them would make Ace seem like a PsychoSidekick, but the Seventh Doctor is [[ManipulativeBastard much more ruthless than she is in a less personally violent way]].

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* ''DoctorWho'': ''Series/DoctorWho'': Leela (and K-9, a bit). While the Doctor sometimes criticises her violence ineffectually, he doesn't often intervene to stop it when its useful. Subverted with Ace, in that a vague description of the dynamic between them would make Ace seem like a PsychoSidekick, but the Seventh Doctor is [[ManipulativeBastard much more ruthless than she is in a less personally violent way]].
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* Avon in ''BlakesSeven'', with interesting consequences when he ended up as the central character. Unusually, Avon continues to act like a Psycho Sidekick -- but having authority this is a disaster for himself and everyone around him. It's aspects like this which make it feel like a show shot on the deck of a burning ship.

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* Avon in ''BlakesSeven'', ''Series/BlakesSeven'', with interesting consequences when he ended up as the central character. Unusually, Avon continues to act like a Psycho Sidekick -- but having authority this is a disaster for himself and everyone around him. It's aspects like this which make it feel like a show shot on the deck of a burning ship.
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* In ''{{Animorphs}}'' Rachel is this to the rest of the team, although they're not exactly [[{{Knight in Shining Armor}} white hats]] themselves. Reached its peak in the final two books when Jake sent her to [[spoiler: [[{{Cain and Abel}} kill his own brother]]]].
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* Joe in Robert Crais' ''The Monkey's Raincoat''.

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* Joe Pike in Robert Crais' ''The Monkey's Raincoat''.Raincoat'' and the other Elvis Cole books. He actually has a moral code but is a lot more comfortable with violence than Elvis. He also has a few books centered around him.
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* The latter half of everybody's favorite crime-solving dog and rabbit duo SamAndMax.

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* The latter half of everybody's favorite crime-solving dog and rabbit duo SamAndMax. Very much so.
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** Grunt from the second game in the series also qualifies, perhaps even more so than Wrex. As Grunt's mental condition is essentially that of an adolescent who has had only minimal interaction with other members of his race, he lacks the discipline and self-control that an older, more experienced Krogan, like Wrex, has.
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Can also be defined cynically as TheDragon, but working for a DesignatedHero. Compare BigBadFriend for when the friend keeps their dark tendencies and evil plot under wraps. One of these in an ensemble is the TokenEvilTeammate.

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Can also be defined cynically as TheDragon, but working for a DesignatedHero. Compare BigBadFriend for when the friend keeps their dark and evil tendencies and evil plot under wraps. One of these in an ensemble is the TokenEvilTeammate.
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* Clete Purcel in James Lee Burke's Dave Robicheaux novels, although Dave can get a bit more morally ambiguous than is usual in such cases.

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* Clete Purcel in James {{James Lee Burke's Burke}}'s Dave Robicheaux novels, although Dave can get a bit more morally ambiguous than is usual in such cases.
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** Likely also a retired PsychoForHire and a PintsizedPowerhouse. Played by Jackie Earle Haley, better known as Rorschach from the ''[[{{Film/Watchmen}} Watchmen]]'' film.

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** Likely also a retired PsychoForHire and a PintsizedPowerhouse. Played by Jackie Earle Haley, JackieEarleHaley, better known as Rorschach from the ''[[{{Film/Watchmen}} Watchmen]]'' film.
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* [[ProudWarriorRaceGuy Wrex]] in Mass Effect.

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* [[ProudWarriorRaceGuy Wrex]] in Mass Effect.
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A trope common in private eye novels since the 1980s, and occasionally found in other genres. Sometimes, your [[TheCape morally]] [[KnightInShiningArmour spotless]] [[MartialPacifist hero]] has a buddy who's a lot less morally spotless. Often, they've been friends for so long that a bit of moral divergence hasn't spoiled it. On the more moral end of the spectrum, the friend's a HitmanWithAHeart or LoveableRogue. In DarkerAndEdgier cases, the friend is actually a PunchClockVillain, NobleDemon or even a PsychoForHire, but they deliberately avoid any situation that might actually pit them against one another because it would be [[RivalTurnedEvil just too painful]]. Of course, the friend could be just a little bit more violent or ruthless than the hero.

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A trope common in private eye novels since the 1980s, and occasionally found in other genres. Sometimes, your [[TheCape morally]] [[KnightInShiningArmour spotless]] [[MartialPacifist hero]] has a buddy who's a lot less morally spotless. Often, they've been friends for so long that a bit of moral divergence hasn't spoiled it. On the more moral end of the spectrum, the friend's a HitmanWithAHeart or LoveableRogue. In DarkerAndEdgier cases, the friend is actually a PunchClockVillain, NobleDemon or even a PsychoForHire, but they deliberately avoid any situation that might actually pit them against one another because it would be [[RivalTurnedEvil just too painful]]. Of course, the friend could be just a little bit more violent or ruthless than the hero.
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Can be seen as something of an inversion of TheWatson, as in the original case of the SherlockHolmes stories, and in many others, part of the Watson's role is to smooth things over socially and upbraid the main character mildly when he becomes too much of a {{Jerkass}}, HeroicSociopath or InsufferableGenius.

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Can be seen as something of an inversion of TheWatson, as in the original case of the SherlockHolmes stories, and in many others, part of the Watson's role is to smooth things over socially and upbraid the main character mildly when he becomes too much of a {{Jerkass}}, HeroicSociopath or InsufferableGenius.
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* At least in the beginning while Yukki still has his moral compass in the fully upright and locked position, Yuno Gasai of ''MiraiNikki'' is what happens when you mix this trope with Yandere, and shake rapidly.

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* ''MiraiNikki'': At least in the beginning while Yukki still has his moral compass in the fully upright and locked position, Yuno Gasai of ''MiraiNikki'' is what happens when you mix this trope with Yandere, and shake rapidly.



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* The ''LeagueOfExtraordinaryGentlemen'' Victorian-era team actually consists of 60% [[PsychoSidekick Psycho Sidekicks]] and 40% relatively moral people.
** When a vampire attack-survivor music teacher and an opium-addicted hunter are the normal guys; have fear.
*** And now Orlando is tending that way in ''Century''.

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* The ''LeagueOfExtraordinaryGentlemen'' Victorian-era team actually consists of 60% [[PsychoSidekick Psycho Sidekicks]] and 40% relatively moral people.
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* The recent ''{{JLA}}/{{Hitman}}'' miniseries depicted Tommy Monaghan as a PsychoSidekick for {{Superman}}, and explicitly stated the moral justification of the trope described above.

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* The recent A ''{{JLA}}/{{Hitman}}'' miniseries depicted Tommy Monaghan as a PsychoSidekick for {{Superman}}, and explicitly stated the moral justification of the trope described above.



* [[CaptainAmerica Bucky Barnes]] is portrayed this way in current books, as a creative RetCon explaining his 'harmless' sidekick persona was actually a front for shady activities a public figure like CaptainAmerica couldn't be caught doing. He makes quite a darkly hilarious contrast to the older and unfailingly idealistic [[TheCape Cap]].

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* [[CaptainAmerica ''CaptainAmerica'': Bucky Barnes]] Barnes is portrayed this way in current books, as a creative RetCon explaining his 'harmless' sidekick persona was actually a front for shady activities a public figure like CaptainAmerica couldn't be caught doing. He makes quite a darkly hilarious contrast to the older and unfailingly idealistic [[TheCape Cap]].



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* Hawk in Robert B Parker's Spenser novels: the type specimen for the trope and one of the first to appear.
* Mouse in Walter Mosley's Easy Rawlins novels. A particularly extreme example in that he's ''genuinely'' AxCrazy.
** And brilliantly played by Don Cheadle in the 1995 film adaptation of ''Devil in a Blue Dress''.

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* Hawk in Robert B Parker's Spenser ''Spenser'' novels: the type specimen for the trope and one of the first to appear.
* Mouse in Walter Mosley's Easy Rawlins ''Easy Rawlins'' novels. A particularly extreme example in that he's ''genuinely'' AxCrazy.
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AxCrazy. And brilliantly played by Don Cheadle in the 1995 film adaptation of ''Devil in a Blue Dress''.



* Bob the Skull in Jim Butcher's TheDresdenFiles series. He's a spirit of intellect, and thus doesn't wholly understand the "morality" thing. Kincaid stands well within PsychoForHire in most cases, but acts as the Psycho Sidekick to the Archive.

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* Bob the Skull in Jim Butcher's TheDresdenFiles series. He's a spirit of intellect, and thus doesn't wholly understand the "morality" thing. Kincaid stands well within PsychoForHire in most cases, but acts as the Psycho Sidekick to the Archive.



* Possibly Ranger in Janet Evanovitch's StephaniePlum novels, although Ranger's a bit more cerebral than most examples.

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* Possibly Ranger in ''StephaniePlum'' series Janet Evanovitch's StephaniePlum novels, Evanovitch: Ranger, although Ranger's a bit more cerebral than most examples.



* The ''[[{{Dragaera}} Taltos]]'' books have been acknowledged as inspired by the Spencer series, but seem to turn this on its head. Vlad Taltos, the protagonist is the PsychoSidekick in relation to his friends who are [[OurElvesAreBetter fantasy elf nobility]], but it's less that he is more bloodthirsty than that he is less bound by social conventions. This is played rather straight in ''Orca'' though as a LawfulGood police officer, who normally disdains assassins, has Vlad kill her partner who was a CorruptCop and a murderer.

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* The ''[[{{Dragaera}} Taltos]]'' books have been acknowledged as inspired by the Spencer series, but seem to turn this on its head. Vlad Taltos, the protagonist is the PsychoSidekick in relation to his friends who are [[OurElvesAreBetter fantasy elf nobility]], but it's less that he is more bloodthirsty than that he is less bound by social conventions. This is played rather straight in ''Orca'' though as a LawfulGood police officer, who normally disdains assassins, has Vlad kill her partner who was a CorruptCop and a murderer.



* Edward in the AnitaBlake series (although it's not like Anita's such a saint).
* Bubba Rugowski in Dennis Lehane's 'Kenzie and Gennaro' private eye novels.
* Windsor Horne Lockwood III, or, Win, from Harlan Coben's Myron Bolitar novels.

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* Arguably Leela (and K-9, a bit) in ''DoctorWho''. While the Doctor sometimes criticises her violence ineffectually, he doesn't often intervene to stop it when its useful. Subverted with Ace, in that a vague description of the dynamic between them would make Ace seem like a PsychoSidekick, but the Seventh Doctor is [[ManipulativeBastard much more ruthless than she is in a less personally violent way]].
* Avon in BlakesSeven, with interesting consequences when he ended up as the central character.
* Gene Hunt (and sometimes Ray) in LifeOnMars and AshesToAshes.

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* Edward in the AnitaBlake ''AnitaBlake'' series (although it's not like Anita's such a saint).
* Bubba Rugowski in Dennis Lehane's 'Kenzie ''Kenzie and Gennaro' Gennaro'' private eye novels.
* ''Myron Bolitar'' series by Harlan Coben: Windsor Horne Lockwood III, or, Win, from Harlan Coben's Myron Bolitar novels.

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* Arguably ''DoctorWho'': Leela (and K-9, a bit) in ''DoctorWho''.bit). While the Doctor sometimes criticises her violence ineffectually, he doesn't often intervene to stop it when its useful. Subverted with Ace, in that a vague description of the dynamic between them would make Ace seem like a PsychoSidekick, but the Seventh Doctor is [[ManipulativeBastard much more ruthless than she is in a less personally violent way]].
* Avon in BlakesSeven, ''BlakesSeven'', with interesting consequences when he ended up as the central character.
character. Unusually, Avon continues to act like a Psycho Sidekick -- but having authority this is a disaster for himself and everyone around him. It's aspects like this which make it feel like a show shot on the deck of a burning ship.
* Gene Hunt (and sometimes Ray) in LifeOnMars ''LifeOnMars'' and AshesToAshes.''AshesToAshes''.



* While Giles is sometimes the PoisonousFriend on ''BuffyTheVampireSlayer'', the "Scoobies" are well aware of his Ripper persona. Spike is this for Dawn; at certain points in the series, she adores him despite knowing that he would be back out slaughtering innocents if not for his chip.

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* Many RPGs that give your party members individual personalities allow [[PlayerCharacter you]] to have one of these, for instance (on the HeroicSociopath end of the scale) [[LargeHam Minsc]] in BaldursGate.
* [[KillAllHumans HK47]] and [[ProudWarriorRaceGuy Canderous Ordo]] in KnightsOfTheOldRepublic, plus HK again, Mandalore and to [[TheAtoner some extent]] [[DarkAndTroubledPast Atton Rand]] in the sequel.

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* ''BuffyTheVampireSlayer'': While Giles is sometimes the PoisonousFriend on ''BuffyTheVampireSlayer'', PoisonousFriend, the "Scoobies" are well aware of his Ripper persona. Spike is this for Dawn; at certain points in the series, she adores him despite knowing that he would be back out slaughtering innocents if not for his chip.

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* Many RPGs that give your party members individual personalities allow [[PlayerCharacter you]] to have one of these, for instance (on the HeroicSociopath end of the scale) [[LargeHam Minsc]] in BaldursGate.
''BaldursGate'': Minsc, as LargeHam and HeroicSociopath.
* ''KnightsOfTheOldRepublic'': [[KillAllHumans HK47]] and [[ProudWarriorRaceGuy Canderous Ordo]] in KnightsOfTheOldRepublic, Ordo]], plus HK again, Mandalore and to [[TheAtoner some extent]] [[DarkAndTroubledPast Atton Rand]] in the sequel.



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* Let's see now. Is this a film about [[TheMafia wiseguys]]? Is [[ThePesci Joe Pesci]] in it? Yup? Well, there you go.
** To list a few examples; {{Casino}}, {{Goodfellas}}.

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-->''"Mouse was the truest friend I ever had. And if there is such a thing as true evil he was that too."''
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* Bob the Skull in Jim Butcher's TheDresdenFiles series. Kincaid stands well within PsychoForHire in most cases, but acts as the Psycho Sidekick to the Archive.

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* Bob the Skull in Jim Butcher's TheDresdenFiles series. He's a spirit of intellect, and thus doesn't wholly understand the "morality" thing. Kincaid stands well within PsychoForHire in most cases, but acts as the Psycho Sidekick to the Archive.
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* In the ''GoodOmens'' fanfic TheSacredAndTheProfane, 'Zirah' (Aziriphale) is a chillingly ruthless PsychoSidekick, and 'Caphriel' (Crowley) [[spoiler:ends up having to kill him to protect Adam]].


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* In the ''GoodOmens'' fanfic TheSacredAndTheProfane, FanFic/TheSacredAndTheProfane, 'Zirah' (Aziriphale) is a chillingly ruthless PsychoSidekick, and PsychoSidekick to 'Caphriel' (Crowley) [[spoiler:ends (Crowley), [[spoiler:who ends up having to kill him to protect Adam]].

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* There's a ''GoodOmens'' fanfic out there somewhere which is basically a short version of the book if Crowley was the angel and Aziraphale was the demon. 'Zirah' is a chilling ''complete'' PsychoSidekick, and 'Caphriel' ends up having to kill him to protect Adam.


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* Many RPGs that give your party members individual personalities allow [[PlayerCharacter you]] to have one of these, for instance (on the HeroicSociopath end of the scale) [[LargeHam Minsc]] in BaldursGate.
* [[KillAllHumans HK47]] and [[ProudWarriorRaceGuy Canderous Ordo]] in KnightsOfTheOldRepublic, plus HK again, Mandalore and to [[TheAtoner some extent]] [[DarkAndTroubledPast Atton Rand]] in the sequel.
* [[ProudWarriorRaceGuy Wrex]] in Mass Effect.

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* Walter Sobchak form ''TheBigLebowski'' is The Dude's best friend and a walking BerserkButton.
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** To list a few examples; {{Casino}}, {{Goodfellas}}, and OnceUponATimeInAmerica.

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* In the [[LoisMcMasterBujold Vorkosigan series]], Sergeant Bothari has elements of this, though he generally waits for orders.

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* Windsor Horne Lockwood III, or, Win, from Harlan Coben's Myron Bolitar novels.
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** Likely also a retired PsychoForHire and a PintsizedPowerhouse. Played by Jackie Earle Haley, better known as Rorschach from the ''[[{{Film/Watchmen}} Watchmen]]'' film, SoYeah.

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* Both Derek and Cameron in ''TheSarahConnorChronicles'' move around on the spectrum between this and PoisonousFriend in relation to the more moral Sarah and John. [[spoiler: "John Connor let her go" is a pretty definitive example of the trope.]]

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* Both Derek and Cameron in ''TheSarahConnorChronicles'' move around on the spectrum between this and PoisonousFriend in relation to the more moral Sarah and John. This occurs as early as the second episode, when Sarah holds [[spoiler: "John Enrique at gunpoint because she thinks he might be a snitch, but doesn't shoot. Cameron arrives on the scene by shooting him twice in the chest before anyone has a chance to stop her. Of course, she's vindicated at the end of the episode when it turns out Enrique really ''was'' an FBI informant.]]
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'''Cameron''': What you couldn't.
** Derek does it even more often, whereas Cameron can usually be persuaded not to kill people if John or Sarah are near. And aside from [[spoiler: the guy they thought was Sarkissian,]] all the people he kills were ''really'' close to him, namely [[spoiler: Andy Goode and Jesse.]]
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Connor said to let her go" is a pretty definitive example of the trope.]]you go. (''pulls out pistol'') I'm not John Connor.

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