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30th Apr '16 7:35:54 AM StFan
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* During ''ComicBook/DarkCybertron'', Scoop tells Starscream of an ancient prophecy he once read, about a "false prophet", one who would among other things "unravel the gaze of Primus". During the event, several of the things the prophecy states supposedly come true. Then, a few years down the line in ComicBook/TheTransformersRobotsInDisguise, Optimus Prime has a vision, with the same passage repeated again. Only this time it suggests the so-called false prophet is [[spoiler:none other than Optimus himself.]]

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* During ''ComicBook/DarkCybertron'', ''ComicBook/TheTransformersDarkCybertron'', Scoop tells Starscream of an ancient prophecy he once read, about a "false prophet", one who would among other things "unravel the gaze of Primus". During the event, several of the things the prophecy states supposedly come true. Then, a few years down the line in ComicBook/TheTransformersRobotsInDisguise, Optimus Prime has a vision, with the same passage repeated again. Only this time it suggests the so-called false prophet is [[spoiler:none other than Optimus himself.]]
28th Apr '16 2:05:16 PM MorphinBrony
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** The prequels are based on one of these, as Anakin Skywalker is prophesied to bring balance to the Force, which the Jedi correctly interpret as destroying the Sith and bringing peace to the galaxy. However, it does not preclude him from falling to the Dark Side, slaughtering his fellow Jedi, and enslaving the galaxy ''first''. And if you accept ExpandedUniverse material, given the sheer number of dark Force users that pop up, the Prophecy doesn't mention that it ''stays'' balanced.\\\

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** The prequels are based on one of these, as Anakin Skywalker is prophesied to bring balance to the Force, which the Jedi correctly interpret as destroying the Sith and bringing peace to the galaxy. However, it does not preclude him from falling to the Dark Side, slaughtering his fellow Jedi, and enslaving the galaxy ''first''. And if you accept ExpandedUniverse material, given the sheer number of dark Force users that pop up, [[Film/TheForceAwakens Kylo Ren]] is anything to go by, the Prophecy doesn't mention that it ''stays'' balanced.\\\
7th Apr '16 1:25:59 PM SSJMagus
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* Creator/JKRowling's ''Literature/HarryPotterAndTheOrderOfThePhoenix''. Dumbledore explains that the part of the prophecy that states that "the Dark Lord shall mark him as his equal" means that it has to be Harry, because Voldemort heard of the prophecy and went to kill Harry, rather than Neville Longbottom, leaving Harry's scar as his "mark".

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* Creator/JKRowling's ''Literature/HarryPotterAndTheOrderOfThePhoenix''. Dumbledore explains that the part of the prophecy that states that "the Dark Lord shall mark him as his equal" means that it has to be Harry, because Voldemort heard of the prophecy and went to kill Harry, rather than Neville Longbottom, leaving Harry's scar as his "mark". Voldemort didn't hear the second half of the prophecy and thus never knew that [[TheChooserOfTheOne he chose Harry as his "equal" and the one capable of defeating him]].
7th Apr '16 1:18:49 PM SSJMagus
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An alternate interpretation is that Anakin did, in betraying the Jedi, bring balance to the Force. Which sounds more balanced, hundreds of Jedi and two Sith, or two Jedi and Two Sith?
** In ''Film/RevengeOfTheSith'', Anakin has a vision in which Padmé dies in childbirth. He falls to the dark side in order to protect her, when Darth Sidious promises him the power to save people from death. His fall causes her to lose the will to live, and she gives birth to the twins and [[DeathByDespair just gives up]]. NiceJobBreakingItHero.

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An alternate interpretation is that Anakin did, in betraying the Jedi, bring balance to the Force. Which sounds more balanced, hundreds of Jedi and two Sith, or two Jedi and Two Sith?
Sith? Also, ultimately he destroys both the Jedi ''and'' the Sith, essentially pressing the reset button on the Jedi and Sith orders' millennia-long conflict and leaving both to be rebuilt from scratch.
** In ''Film/RevengeOfTheSith'', Anakin has a vision in which Padmé dies in childbirth. He falls to the dark side in order to protect her, when Darth Sidious promises him the power to save people from death. His fall causes her to lose the will to live, and she gives birth to the twins and [[DeathByDespair just gives up]]. NiceJobBreakingItHero. It probably also didn't help that because of Anakin's actions, Padmé gave birth not in a state-of-the-art hospital in the wealthiest district of the galactic capital on Coruscant, but in a clinic on a remote mining colony where the medical droids were optimized for non-humans.
6th Apr '16 6:01:34 PM Gamermaster
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* In "Manga/OnePiece", Madame Shyarly, the resident fortuneteller of Fishman Island, makes a prediction that [[spoiler:Luffy will destroy Fishman Island, very soon.]] The arc ended with Straw Hats saving the island, but it's highly likely this prophecy will come true. [[spoiler:Said soothsayer has NEVER been wrong, accurately predicting Great Era of Pirates, and Whitebeard's death.]]

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* In "Manga/OnePiece", ''Manga/OnePiece'', Madame Shyarly, the resident fortuneteller of Fishman Island, makes a prediction that [[spoiler:Luffy will destroy Fishman Island, very soon.]] The arc ended with Straw Hats saving the island, but it's highly likely this prophecy will come true. [[spoiler:Said soothsayer has NEVER been wrong, accurately predicting Great Era of Pirates, and Whitebeard's death.]]
6th Apr '16 4:02:05 AM timotaka
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* In ''VideoGame/UltimaVI'', a gargoyle prophecy states that the only way to prevent of the destruction of their people is by "sacrifice of the False Prophet". The gargoyles believe this means they must sacrifice the False Prophet (and boy, do they try!), but in the end the situation is resolved by the False Prophet sacrificing something else entirely. One of the more philosophical gargoyles even points out that the prophecy might mean one of three things: the False Prophet is sacrificed, the False Prophet performs a sacrifice on another person, or the False Prophet sacrifices a valuable possession.

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* In ''VideoGame/UltimaVI'', a gargoyle prophecy states that the only way to prevent of the destruction of their people is by "sacrifice of the False Prophet". The Most gargoyles believe this means they must sacrifice the False Prophet (and boy, do they try!), but in the end the situation is resolved by the False Prophet sacrificing something else entirely. One of the more philosophical gargoyles even points out that the prophecy might mean one of three things: the False Prophet is sacrificed, the False Prophet performs a sacrifice on another person, or the False Prophet sacrifices a valuable possession.
27th Mar '16 8:19:23 PM Landis
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* Used in several ways in the ''[[MistBorn Mistborn Trilogy]]''. Not only is the ancient prophecy far away from being unambiguous, it also [[spoiler:got screwed with by the EldritchAbomination so it will acomplish the exact opposite of what it was meant to do - getting rid of the EldritchAbomination.]]

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* Used in several ways in the ''[[MistBorn [[Franchise/{{Mistborn}} Mistborn Trilogy]]''. Era 1 trilogy]]. Not only is the ancient prophecy far away from being unambiguous, it also [[spoiler:got screwed with by the resident EldritchAbomination so it will acomplish accomplish the exact opposite of what it was meant to do - getting rid of the EldritchAbomination.]]
** And then [[spoiler: it turns out that it was screwed with so much that it ended up placing the right people in the right place at the right time to get rid of said EldritchAbomination anyway.
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19th Mar '16 6:39:23 AM Hossmeister
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10th Mar '16 12:29:25 PM GrammarNavi
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* Happens all the time in TheUnderlandChronicles. Then it is subverted in ''Gregor and the Code of Claw'', when Ripred points out that the prophecies could be loosely interpreted to cover a variety of situations, and that people are often adapting what happens in reality to fit the prophecy so that it is fulfilled (their society is strongly based around the prophecies their founder wrote). He then gets ''really'' GenreSavvy by deliberately giving himself a wound that will fulfill yet another prophecy.

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* Happens all the time in TheUnderlandChronicles.''Literature/TheUnderlandChronicles''. Then it is subverted in ''Gregor and the Code of Claw'', when Ripred points out that the prophecies could be loosely interpreted to cover a variety of situations, and that people are often adapting what happens in reality to fit the prophecy so that it is fulfilled (their society is strongly based around the prophecies their founder wrote). He then gets ''really'' GenreSavvy by deliberately giving himself a wound that will fulfill yet another prophecy.
3rd Mar '16 5:23:21 PM Scorntex
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* During ''ComicBook/DarkCybertron'', Scoop tells Starscream of an ancient prophecy he once read, about a "false prophet", one who would among other things "unravel the gaze of Primus". During the event, several of the things the prophecy states supposedly come true. Then, a few years down the line in ComicBook/TheTransformersRobotsInDisguise, Optimus Prime has a vision, with the same passage repeated again. Only this time it suggests the so-called false prophet is [[spoiler:none other than Optimus himself.]]
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