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10th Jun '18 10:31:46 PM ReddishGuy1
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* Seito in ''Series/KamenRiderBuild'' effectively becomes this after allowing [[ArmsDealer Nanba Heavy Industries]] to take over their military. Later on, [[BigBad Nanba]] [[spoiler:kills off their Prime Minister and steals his identity]] when he stops going along with Nanba's goals.
17th Feb '18 1:51:51 AM nombretomado
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Usually, it is a Straw Dystopia created by a [[PoliticalIdeologies nationalist, modern/social liberal, conservative, socialist, communist, social/communitarian anarchist, or otherwise not anarcho-capitalist/classic-liberal/libertarian]][[note]] Nationalists hate the idea that of the nation-state having to share power with or being subordinated to non-national actors. Modern/Social liberals hate the idea that the state would not be powerful enough to protect people from the abuse of power by private actors like corporations and crime syndicates. Conservatives are leery of unnecessary, unprecedented, and undesirable change - only conservatives who were also classic-liberals/libertarians might approve of such a society. Socialists hate the idea of an unequal society wherein the poor and weak are not looked after with compassion and kindness. Communists hate the idea of a state that is run for the benefit of the bourgeoise and tramps upon the rights of the worker, but would remain hopeful that such a dystopia would lead to a (succesful) revolution by the oppressed poor and lead to the end of Capitalism. Lastly, Social/Communitarian Anarchists hate the idea of any kind of social order that is in any way oppressive or removed from the basic goodness/decency of face-to-face interactions, as a society run by faceless corporations (with no oversight) would be. [[/note]] author. More rarely, it can be MarySuetopia created by a classic-liberal/libertarian, 'Objectivist', capitalist-anarchist, or otherwise pro-corporate author.

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Usually, it is a Straw Dystopia created by a [[PoliticalIdeologies [[UsefulNotes/PoliticalIdeologies nationalist, modern/social liberal, conservative, socialist, communist, social/communitarian anarchist, or otherwise not anarcho-capitalist/classic-liberal/libertarian]][[note]] Nationalists hate the idea that of the nation-state having to share power with or being subordinated to non-national actors. Modern/Social liberals hate the idea that the state would not be powerful enough to protect people from the abuse of power by private actors like corporations and crime syndicates. Conservatives are leery of unnecessary, unprecedented, and undesirable change - only conservatives who were also classic-liberals/libertarians might approve of such a society. Socialists hate the idea of an unequal society wherein the poor and weak are not looked after with compassion and kindness. Communists hate the idea of a state that is run for the benefit of the bourgeoise and tramps upon the rights of the worker, but would remain hopeful that such a dystopia would lead to a (succesful) revolution by the oppressed poor and lead to the end of Capitalism. Lastly, Social/Communitarian Anarchists hate the idea of any kind of social order that is in any way oppressive or removed from the basic goodness/decency of face-to-face interactions, as a society run by faceless corporations (with no oversight) would be. [[/note]] author. More rarely, it can be MarySuetopia created by a classic-liberal/libertarian, 'Objectivist', capitalist-anarchist, or otherwise pro-corporate author.
1st Feb '18 5:05:51 PM WillBGood
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* Corporations in ''TabletopGames/Cyberpunk'' have taken over various State functions, such as [[LawEnforcementInc police]], in their [[CompanyTown neighbourhoods]], after the States ceased to provide some services becauses of the various wars and economic crisis; they have even [[PrivateArmy private armies]].

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* Corporations in ''TabletopGames/Cyberpunk'' ''TabletopGames/{{Cyberpunk}}'' have taken over various State functions, such as [[LawEnforcementInc police]], in their [[CompanyTown neighbourhoods]], after the States ceased to provide some services becauses of the various wars and economic crisis; they have even [[PrivateArmy private armies]].
19th Dec '17 6:38:07 PM DarkHunter
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* ''VideoGame/FateExtra'': The world is on the way to becoming one, with the Harway family being said to own 30% of the landmass and 60% of the global wealth, and are seeking to increase their power until they control all of mankind. Rin Tohsaka is part of a resistance movement against them.
26th Nov '17 4:31:34 PM nombretomado
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** This is very debatable. The international sectors of the HongKong economy are indeed very laissez-faire, but the domestic economy is heavily cartelized and dominated by favored merchants (indeed, all land in Hong Kong is ''state-owned'', hardly a feature of such systems). Arguably the domestic economy is Mercantilist or State-Corporatist rather than laissez-faire in the proper sense. See Joe Studwell's ''Asian Godfathers'' for more on the topic.

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** This is very debatable. The international sectors of the HongKong UsefulNotes/HongKong economy are indeed very laissez-faire, but the domestic economy is heavily cartelized and dominated by favored merchants (indeed, all land in Hong Kong is ''state-owned'', hardly a feature of such systems). Arguably the domestic economy is Mercantilist or State-Corporatist rather than laissez-faire in the proper sense. See Joe Studwell's ''Asian Godfathers'' for more on the topic.
1st Oct '17 9:07:37 AM Romagnadvoratrelundar
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A common trope in CyberPunk fiction in general, given all the {{Mega Corp}}s in charge of everything in many such settings. However, CyberPunk settings often do not explain the precise laws used in their respective societies, so it's not always clear if everything is actually privately owned or if corporations just [[ScrewTheRulesIHaveConnections act as if they own everything]], laws be damned. In many cases, the government is simply not mentioned, so it is not known if one exists, and if it does, whether it owns anything or has any power.

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A common trope in CyberPunk fiction in general, given all the {{Mega Corp}}s in charge of everything in many such settings. However, CyberPunk settings often do not explain the precise laws used in their respective societies, so it's not always clear if everything is actually privately owned or if corporations just [[ScrewTheRulesIHaveConnections act as if they own everything]], [[ScrewTheRulesIHaveMoney laws be damned.damned]]. In many cases, the government is simply not mentioned, so it is not known if one exists, and if it does, whether it owns anything or has any power.
28th Sep '17 10:33:46 PM DaRatBastid
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*** At one point, when Clarence Boddicker asks Dick Jones (OCP's vice-president) if OCP can get him access to military hardware with which to deal with Robocop, Jones replies, "We practically are the military."
27th Jul '17 10:33:29 PM Fireblood
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* This was the cornerstone of the feudal system. The king was the one who actually owned the land, the lords were tenants, and the serfs subtenants, both of the latter allowed to use the land in exchange for payment (usually in the form of crops grown on the land, or services provided for the lord, and the lord provided services for the king in turn). In exchange, the lord was supposed to look after their basic needs and provide for their safety in times of trouble. In practice, the peasants tended to get the short end of the stick most of the time. In England it wasn't until 1660 that lords were made private owners of their lands. This was in fact bad for peasants, since it meant they could be evicted at will (previously they could neither be evicted ''or'' leave their lord's manor by law, though some fled poor conditions).

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* This was the cornerstone of the feudal system. The king was the one who actually owned the land, the lords were tenants, and the serfs subtenants, both of the latter allowed to use the land in exchange for payment (usually in the form of crops grown on the land, or services provided for the lord, and the lord provided services for the king in turn). In exchange, the lord was supposed to look after their basic needs and provide for their safety in times of trouble. In practice, the peasants tended to get the short end of the stick most of the time. In England it wasn't until 1660 that lords were made private owners of their lands. This was in fact bad for peasants, since it meant they could be evicted at will (previously they could neither be evicted ''or'' leave their lord's manor by law, though some fled poor conditions). After improved farming techniques needing less peasants were developed, increasing numbers got evicted and headed to the cities for survival. This helped to spur industrialization as they found work at handicrafts and later in factories.



* Some sources have argued that the infamous Kowloon Walled City was a de facto example of this.

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* Some sources have argued that the infamous Kowloon Walled City was a de facto ''de facto'' example of this.
10th Apr '17 1:08:09 PM nombretomado
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* ''SecondLife'' could be viewed as a virtual version of this trope.

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* ''SecondLife'' ''VideoGame/SecondLife'' could be viewed as a virtual version of this trope.
17th Feb '17 1:35:43 AM nekunni
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* UsefulNotes/{{Objectivism}}, Anarcho-Capitalism, and Classical Liberalism (aka "Libertarianism" in the USA) consider a society dominated by non-state actors to be ideal. This is because they all believe that property is the most important thing for people to be happy, and that [[WhatYouAreInTheDark the weak and the sick in society will not be (too badly) exploited if those entities are made to feel wholly responsible for their well-being]]. That is to say they truly believe that [[WhatYouAreInTheDark in the absence of a government giving food to starving people and treatment for the sick, private charities and corporations will have the resources and dedication to keep them all from dying]]. Though the three agree that The Free Market Will Provide (Prosperity For All), that there should be little to no government regulation of society and people's behavior, and no public efforts to save the sick or needy, they squabble over the details. However, Anarcho-Capitalism is the only one to envision a society with ''no government whatsoever''-that being where the whole 'Anarcho' bit comes from-but instead absolutely everything being run by syndicates or corporations[[note]] The possibility that these non-state actors could end up governing society in a manner little different to that of a, well, regular government is why Anarcho-Capitalists and Social/Communitarian Anarchists are so irreconcilably opposed to one another[[/note]]. The Objectivists and Classical Liberals think this would be a terrible idea because they're sure that a functional society requires a military and legal/justice system.

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* UsefulNotes/{{Objectivism}}, Anarcho-Capitalism, and Classical Liberalism (aka "Libertarianism" in the USA) consider a society dominated by non-state actors to be ideal. This is because they all believe that property is the most important thing for people to be happy, and that [[WhatYouAreInTheDark the weak and the sick in society will not be (too badly) exploited if those entities are made to feel wholly responsible for their well-being]]. That is to say they truly believe that [[WhatYouAreInTheDark in the absence of a government giving food to starving people and treatment for the sick, private charities and corporations will have the resources and dedication to keep them all from dying]]. Though the three agree that The Free Market Will Provide (Prosperity For All), that there should be little to no government regulation of society and people's behavior, and no public efforts to save the sick or needy, they squabble over the details. However, Anarcho-Capitalism is the only one to envision a society with ''no government whatsoever''-that being where the whole 'Anarcho' bit comes from-but instead absolutely everything being run by syndicates or corporations[[note]] The possibility that these non-state actors could end up governing society in a manner little different to that of a, well, regular government is why Anarcho-Capitalists and Social/Communitarian Anarchists are so irreconcilably opposed to one another[[/note]]. The Objectivists and Classical Liberals think this would be a terrible idea because they're sure that a functional society requires a military and legal/justice system.
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