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Note that A - E can go both ways (for example, someone too old to know who BritneySpears or TheBackstreetBoys may have fond memories of ILoveLucy or [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herman%27s_Hermits Herman's Hermits]]), and F is the natural conclusion of PopculturalOsmosis, when even AllThereIsToKnowAboutTheCryingGame is forgotten (along with TheCryingGame itself).
This, by the way, is the reason many {{Character Named Trope}}s are renamed. For example, if you're not familiar with SherlockHolmes, who is InspectorLestrade; if not well-read in 19th-century French literature (or [[AllMusicalsAreAdaptations Broadway musicals]]), InspectorJavert may be unknown to you; and if you've never watched anime, InspectorZenigata will be a stranger.
This, by the way, is the reason many {{Character Named Trope}}s are renamed. For example, if you're not familiar with SherlockHolmes, who is InspectorLestrade; if not well-read in 19th-century French literature (or [[AllMusicalsAreAdaptations Broadway musicals]]), InspectorJavert may be unknown to you; and if you've never watched anime, InspectorZenigata will be a stranger.
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Note that A - E can go both ways (for example, someone too old to know who BritneySpears or TheBackstreetBoys The Backstreet Boys may have fond memories of ILoveLucy or [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herman%27s_Hermits Herman's Hermits]]), and F is the natural conclusion of PopculturalOsmosis, when even AllThereIsToKnowAboutTheCryingGame is forgotten (along with TheCryingGame itself).
itself) except for the [[TropeNamers trope name]].
This, by the way, is the reasonmany {{Character Named Trope}}s are often renamed. For example, if you're not familiar with SherlockHolmes, who is InspectorLestrade; if not well-read in 19th-century French literature (or [[AllMusicalsAreAdaptations Broadway musicals]]), InspectorJavert may be unknown to you; and if you've never watched anime, InspectorZenigata will be a stranger.
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#The person from Group B doesn't get it at all because of a failure of PopculturalOsmosis. This seems to be the most common
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#The person from Group B gets it wrong because of a ''clash'' of PopculturalOsmosis, and he's [[TheWeirdAlEffect referencing something that referenced the original]], [[OlderThanTheyThink referenced a reference of the original, etc.]]
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#The person from Group B gets it wrong because of a ''clash'' of PopculturalOsmosis, and he's [[TheWeirdAlEffect referencing something that referenced the original]], [[LostInImitation referenced a reference]] [[OlderThanTheyThink referenced a reference of the original, etc.]]
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* B) is an outsider of the clique or subculture or is an immigrant or foreigner
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* B) is an outsider of the clique or subculture or is an immigrant or foreigner[[FunnyForeigner foreigner]]
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* D) is young and the bit of pop culture is (relatively) old.
* E) simply is not familiar with a genre or a work
* F) the work itself is [[FanMyopia thought to be so popular that all who know it]] think it will be passed on through PopculturalOsmosis--with the result that it ''isn't''.
* E) simply is not familiar with a genre or a work
* F) the work itself is [[FanMyopia thought to be so popular that all who know it]] think it will be passed on through PopculturalOsmosis--with the result that it ''isn't''.
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* D) is young and [[IveHeardOfThatWhatIsIt the bit of pop culture culture]] is (relatively) old.
* E) is [[InTheOriginalKlingon amusingly]] [[AluminumChristmasTrees displaced]] from the time of origin
* F) simply is not familiar with a genre or a work
*F) G) the work itself is [[FanMyopia thought to be so popular popular]] that all who know it]] it think it will be passed on through PopculturalOsmosis--with the result that it ''isn't''.
* E) is [[InTheOriginalKlingon amusingly]] [[AluminumChristmasTrees displaced]] from the time of origin
* F) simply is not familiar with a genre or a work
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This, by the way, is the reason many {{Character Named Trope}}s are being renamed. For example, if you're not familiar with 19th-century English literature, who is InspectorLestrade?; if not well-read in 19th-century ''French'' literature (or [[AllMusicalsAreAdaptations Broadway musicals]]), InspectorJavert may be unknown to you; and if you've never watched anime, InspectorZenigata will be a stranger.
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This, by the way, is the reason many {{Character Named Trope}}s are being renamed. For example, if you're not familiar with 19th-century English literature, SherlockHolmes, who is InspectorLestrade?; InspectorLestrade; if not well-read in 19th-century ''French'' French literature (or [[AllMusicalsAreAdaptations Broadway musicals]]), InspectorJavert may be unknown to you; and if you've never watched anime, InspectorZenigata will be a stranger.
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See also SeinfeldIsUnfunny, SimpsonsDidItFirst, {{Nohamotyo}}.
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See also SeinfeldIsUnfunny, SimpsonsDidItFirst, AdaptationDisplacement, ForgottenTrope, SimpsonsDidIt, {{Nohamotyo}}.
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* F) the work itself is thought to be so popular that all who know it think it will be passed on through PopculturalOsmosis--with the result that it ''isn't''.
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* F) the work itself is [[FanMyopia thought to be so popular that all who know it it]] think it will be passed on through PopculturalOsmosis--with the result that it ''isn't''.
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This, by the way, is the reason many CharacterNamedTropes are being renamed. For example, if you're not familiar with 19th-century English literature, who is InspectorLestrade?; if not well-read in 19th-century ''French'' literature (or [[AllMusicalsAreAdaptations Broadway musicals]]), InspectorJavert may be unknown to you; and if you've never watched anime, InspectorZenigata will be a stranger.
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This, by the way, is the reason many CharacterNamedTropes {{Character Named Trope}}s are being renamed. For example, if you're not familiar with 19th-century English literature, who is InspectorLestrade?; if not well-read in 19th-century ''French'' literature (or [[AllMusicalsAreAdaptations Broadway musicals]]), InspectorJavert may be unknown to you; and if you've never watched anime, InspectorZenigata will be a stranger.
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* Likewise, Ride of the Valkyries is either 1) a song from Wagner's Niblehelm (sp?) cycle, 2)the song that plays when the fighter jest come in in ApocalypseNow, 0r 3) "Kill the Wabbit! Kill the Wabbit!"
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* In the {{Weezer}} song "El Scorcho", the singer sees this as another attractive trait of the girl he's wooing: "I asked you to the Green Day concert. You said you'd never heard of them. ''How cool is that?''"
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-> '''Souichirou:''' Oh, [[StreetFighterII back then]], Bison was dressed up as Mike Tyson. Pretty cool.
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-> '''Souichirou:''' '''Soujirou:''' Oh, [[StreetFighterII back then]], Bison was dressed up as Mike Tyson. Pretty cool.
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-> '''Souichirou:''' '''Soujirou:''' Today, I felt the generation gap in a deep and very personal way.
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-> '''Souichirou:''' Oh, [[{{StreetFighter2}} back then]], Bison was dressed up as Mike Tyson. Pretty cool.
-> '''Konata:''' Who's Mike Tyson?
-> '''Souichirou:''' Today, I felt the generation gap in a deep and very personal way.
->-- ''LuckyStar'' Manga vol. 6
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* In the ''DoctorWho'' episode "The Empty Child", Rose jokingly refers to the Doctor as "Mr Spock". Jack, who's from the future, doesn't get the reference and assumes it's actually the Doctor's name.
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*** Not really that odd- nursery rhymes come from your parents, theme songs come from TV. This is truth in television for a lot of first and second generation immigrants.
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* In the ''AllInTheFamily'' episode "Archie and the Computer", Mike complains about the increasing role of computers in society:
-->'''Mike:''' Pretty soon, we're not gonna be names, just numbers! It's ''NineteenEightyFour''!
-->'''Archie:''' Eh, shut up, you don't even know what year is!
-->'''Mike:''' Pretty soon, we're not gonna be names, just numbers! It's ''NineteenEightyFour''!
-->'''Archie:''' Eh, shut up, you don't even know what year is!
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*** Don't they just say "Romulan" as in identifying the statement as being in the Romulan language?
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Only Reid I could think of; please correct if I was wrong.
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* Apparently, Reid's never heard of the sitting in a tree song.
** Who? What show? '''''Say the name of the bloody show if you're going to put in an example'''''.
** Who? What show? '''''Say the name of the bloody show if you're going to put in an example'''''.
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* ''CriminalMinds'': Apparently, Reid's never heard of the sitting in a tree song.
** Who? What show? '''''Say the name of the bloody show if you're going to put in an example'''''.song.
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* ''{{Armageddon}}'': Owen Wilson's character says he hates when someone says JethroTull [[IAmNotShazam is the name of the lead singer]]. The psychiatrist asks back "What is Jethro Tull?".
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* ''{{Armageddon}}'': Owen Wilson's character says he hates when someone says JethroTull [[IAmNotShazam is the name of the lead singer]]. The psychiatrist asks back "What "Who is Jethro Tull?".
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* SamusIsAGirl: Is common knowledge amongst gamers. Except for gamers and their families who showed no interest in {{Metroid}} games who end up finding out much later.
* SamusIsAGirl: Is common knowledge amongst gamers. Except for gamers and their families who showed no interest in {{Metroid}} games who end up finding out much later.
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* Agent 355 from ''YTheLastMan'' never gets pop culture references; at the end, when Yorick brings up ''{{Moonlighting}}'' he explains what it is "before you ask". [[spoiler: In the DistantFinale, set 60 years after the rest of the story, when Yorick asks his young clone, if he knew that [[ElvisPresley Elvis]] had a twin brother, he asks: "Who's Elvis?"]]
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* On ''{{LOST}}'', the character Sawyer constantly uses pop-culture references in his sarcastic quips and derisive nicknames. This backfires when he calls another character "Bobby", and specifies that he's referring to ''TheBradyBunch'', only to get the response "What the hell is The Brady Bunch?" This exchange implies that the character grew up on the island and has little knowledge of the outside world.
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*Apparently, Reid's never heard of the sitting in a tree song.
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* SamusIsAGirl: Is common knowledge amongst gamers. Except for gamers and their families who showed no interest in {{Metroid}} games who end up finding out much later.
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** and a JRPG (''{{Xenosaga}} 3: [[GratuitousGerman Also Sprach Zarathustra]]''),\\
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** and a JRPG (''{{Xenosaga}} 3: [[GratuitousGerman Also Sprach Zarathustra]]''),
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* Someone uses the fanfare from Strauss's "AlsoSprachZarathustra" to refer to ''[=~2001: A Space Odyssey~=]'', and someone else think's it's a reference to RicFlair (who used the same as his {{Leitmotif}})
** As an added level of confusion, on seeing the name this troper thinks of JRPG ''{{Xenosaga}} 3: [[GratuitousGerman Also Sprach Zarathustra]]''.
** And this troper thinks of the original Nietzsche book.
** As an added level of confusion, on seeing the name this troper thinks of JRPG ''{{Xenosaga}} 3: [[GratuitousGerman Also Sprach Zarathustra]]''.
** And this troper thinks of the original Nietzsche book.
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* Someone uses the AlsoSprachZarathustra is
** a book by Nietzsche,
** A fanfarefrom Strauss's "AlsoSprachZarathustra" to refer to composed by Strauss and used by
*** the movie ''[=~2001: A SpaceOdyssey~=]'', and someone else think's it's a reference to Odyssey~=]'' and
*** [[ProfessionalWrestling Professional Wrestler]] RicFlair(who used the same as his {{Leitmotif}})
{{Leitmotif}},
**As an added level of confusion, on seeing the name this troper thinks of and a JRPG ''{{Xenosaga}} (''{{Xenosaga}} 3: [[GratuitousGerman Also Sprach Zarathustra]]''.
** And this troper thinks of the original Nietzsche book.Zarathustra]]''),
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* F) the work itself is thought to be so popular that all who know it think it will be passed on through PopculturalOsmosis -- with the result that it ''isn't''.
Note that A - E can go both ways (for example, someone too old to know who BritneySpears or TheBackstreetBoys are may have fond memories of ILoveLucy or [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herman%27s_Hermits Herman's Hermits]]), and F is the natural conclusion of PopculturalOsmosis, when even AllThereIsToKnowAboutTheCryingGame is forgotten (along with TheCryingGame itself).
This, by the way, is the reason many CharacterNamedTropes are being renamed. For example, if you're not familiar with 19th-century English literature, who is InspectorLestrade; if not well-read in 19th-century ''French'' literature (or [[AllMusicalsAreAdaptations Broadway musicals]]), InspectorJavert may be unknown to you; and if you've never watched anime, InspectorZenigata will be a stranger.
Note that A - E can go both ways (for example, someone too old to know who BritneySpears or TheBackstreetBoys are may have fond memories of ILoveLucy or [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herman%27s_Hermits Herman's Hermits]]), and F is the natural conclusion of PopculturalOsmosis, when even AllThereIsToKnowAboutTheCryingGame is forgotten (along with TheCryingGame itself).
This, by the way, is the reason many CharacterNamedTropes are being renamed. For example, if you're not familiar with 19th-century English literature, who is InspectorLestrade; if not well-read in 19th-century ''French'' literature (or [[AllMusicalsAreAdaptations Broadway musicals]]), InspectorJavert may be unknown to you; and if you've never watched anime, InspectorZenigata will be a stranger.
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* F) the work itself is thought to be so popular that all who know it think it will be passed on through PopculturalOsmosis -- with PopculturalOsmosis--with the result that it ''isn't''.
Note that A - E can go both ways (for example, someone too old to know who BritneySpears or TheBackstreetBoysare may have fond memories of ILoveLucy or [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herman%27s_Hermits Herman's Hermits]]), and F is the natural conclusion of PopculturalOsmosis, when even AllThereIsToKnowAboutTheCryingGame is forgotten (along with TheCryingGame itself).
This, by the way, is the reason many CharacterNamedTropes are being renamed. For example, if you're not familiar with 19th-century English literature, who isInspectorLestrade; InspectorLestrade?; if not well-read in 19th-century ''French'' literature (or [[AllMusicalsAreAdaptations Broadway musicals]]), InspectorJavert may be unknown to you; and if you've never watched anime, InspectorZenigata will be a stranger.
Note that A - E can go both ways (for example, someone too old to know who BritneySpears or TheBackstreetBoys
This, by the way, is the reason many CharacterNamedTropes are being renamed. For example, if you're not familiar with 19th-century English literature, who is
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*** That moment gets even worse when you consider that, in the same episode, Howard says "That sounds more like we are [[TheCruella a tall, thin woman]] [[OneHundredAndOneDalmatians who wants to make a coat out of your Dalmatians]]".
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** As an added level of confusion, on seeing the name this troper thinks of JRPG ''Xenosaga 3: Also Sprach Zarathustra''.
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** As an added level of confusion, on seeing the name this troper thinks of JRPG ''Xenosaga ''{{Xenosaga}} 3: [[GratuitousGerman Also Sprach Zarathustra''.Zarathustra]]''.
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* In [[AtoptheFourthWall Linkara]] and [[TheSpoonyExperiment Spoony's]] crossover review of "Warrior #1", Spoony mocks the Ultimate Warrior's disjointed speech patterns by quoting [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68mbFvenlaQ Col. Campbell's infamous line]] from Metal Gear Solid 2 near verbatim (only adding a "Hoak Hogan" to keep with the theme). Months afterward, TGWTG fans who apparently never played [=MGS2=] would often spout "I need scissors! 61!" when talking about the Ultimate Warrior, as if believing the line only came from that review.
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* In [[AtoptheFourthWall Linkara]] and [[TheSpoonyExperiment Spoony's]] crossover review of "Warrior #1", Spoony mocks the Ultimate Warrior's disjointed speech patterns by quoting [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68mbFvenlaQ Col. Campbell's infamous line]] from Metal ''{{Metal Gear Solid 2 2}}'' near verbatim (only adding a "Hoak Hogan" to keep with the theme). Months afterward, TGWTG fans who apparently never played [=MGS2=] would often spout "I need scissors! 61!" when talking about the Ultimate Warrior, as if believing the line only came from that review.
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#The person from Group B gets it wrong because of a ''clash'' of PopculturalOsmosis, [[OlderThanTheyThink and he's referencing something that referenced the original, referenced a reference of the original, etc.]]
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#The person from Group B gets it wrong because of a ''clash'' of PopculturalOsmosis, [[OlderThanTheyThink and he's [[TheWeirdAlEffect referencing something that referenced the original, original]], [[OlderThanTheyThink referenced a reference of the original, etc.]]
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This, by the way, is the reason many CharacterNamedTropes are being renamed. For example, if you're not familiar with 19th-century English literature, who is InspectorLestrade; if not well-read in 19th-century ''French'' literature, InspectorJavert may be unknown to you; and if you've never watched anime, InspectorZenigata will be a stranger.
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This, by the way, is the reason many CharacterNamedTropes are being renamed. For example, if you're not familiar with 19th-century English literature, who is InspectorLestrade; if not well-read in 19th-century ''French'' literature, literature (or [[AllMusicalsAreAdaptations Broadway musicals]]), InspectorJavert may be unknown to you; and if you've never watched anime, InspectorZenigata will be a stranger.
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*''Live Free or DieHard'': Generational differences are a major theme in this belated sequel, and so various sorts of this come up frequently. For instance, Justin Long's character fails to understand what "Fortunate Son" by CCR is -- to him, ''it's'' noise. (The writers and [=McClane=] are hit with IsntItIronic here, but oh well...)
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*''Live Free or DieHard'': Generational differences are a major theme in this belated sequel, and so various sorts of this come up frequently. For instance, Justin Long's character fails to understand what "Fortunate Son" by CCR CreedenceClearwaterRevival is -- to him, ''it's'' noise. (The writers and [=McClane=] are hit with IsntItIronic here, but oh well...)
* ''{{Armageddon}}'': Owen Wilson's character says he hates when someone says JethroTull [[IAmNotShazam is the name of the lead singer]]. The psychiatrist asks back "What is Jethro Tull?".
* ''{{Armageddon}}'': Owen Wilson's character says he hates when someone says JethroTull [[IAmNotShazam is the name of the lead singer]]. The psychiatrist asks back "What is Jethro Tull?".
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** And in an episode, Penny sees failure while asking some regular pop culture questions to Sheldon and Leonard ("Singer who sang "Oops!... I Did It Again"?"). Best summed up by:
-->'''Penny''': [[LooneyTunes Tweety bird]] tawt he taw a what? \\
'''Sheldon''': [[StarTrek A Romulan]]?
-->'''Penny''': [[LooneyTunes Tweety bird]] tawt he taw a what? \\
'''Sheldon''': [[StarTrek A Romulan]]?
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** Which could also be interpreted as "I like StarWars, but this guy is irrelevant".
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* Basically the reason CoveredUp and SampledUp exist (just see the opening quote for the former entry).