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23rd May '16 6:14:31 PM SkyHavenPath13
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* Many First Age superweapons in the ''TabletopGame/{{Exalted}}'' setting fall in that category. After all, we are speaking of a GoldenAge where the war against evil was supposedly ''won'', so why the hell did the Exalted continue to manufacture and stockpile world-threatening weapons in such extents? Sure, the defeated enemies (Yozis, Neverborns and Rashka) are still around and that totally justifies some things. The Realm Defense Grid, for example, is a rather well designed superwapon, which has world-shattering capabilities but can also be used for more small-scale and limited warfare, and comes with serious security systems and safety mechanisms. But honestly, what good can come from things like [[FantasticNuke Thousand-Forged Dragons]], [[NeutronBomb Soulbreaker Orbs]], or mass destruction Solar circle spells such as Rain of Doom? They are clearly more suited to devastating Creation and killing a massive number of people than to waging an efficient war against demons, undead or fairies.

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* Many First Age superweapons in the ''TabletopGame/{{Exalted}}'' setting fall in that category. After all, we are speaking of a GoldenAge where the war against evil was supposedly ''won'', so why the hell did the Exalted continue to manufacture and stockpile world-threatening weapons in such extents? Sure, the defeated enemies (Yozis, Neverborns and Rashka) are still around and that totally justifies some things. The Realm Defense Grid, for example, is a rather well designed superwapon, superweapon, which has world-shattering capabilities but can also be used for more small-scale and limited warfare, and comes with serious security systems and safety mechanisms. But honestly, what good can come from things like [[FantasticNuke Thousand-Forged Dragons]], [[NeutronBomb Soulbreaker Orbs]], or mass destruction Solar circle spells such as Rain of Doom? They are clearly more suited to devastating Creation and killing a massive number of people than to waging an efficient war against demons, undead or fairies.
19th May '16 2:49:10 AM jormis29
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* Many First Age superweapons in the ''TabletopGames/{{Exalted}}'' setting fall in that category. After all, we are speaking of a GoldenAge where the war against evil was supposedly ''won'', so why the hell did the Exalted continue to manufacture and stockpile world-threatening weapons in such extents? Sure, the defeated enemies (Yozis, Neverborns and Rashka) are still around and that totally justifies some things. The Realm Defense Grid, for example, is a rather well designed superwapon, which has world-shattering capabilities but can also be used for more small-scale and limited warfare, and comes with serious security systems and safety mechanisms. But honestly, what good can come from things like [[FantasticNuke Thousand-Forged Dragons]], [[NeutronBomb Soulbreaker Orbs]], or mass destruction Solar circle spells such as Rain of Doom? They are clearly more suited to devastating Creation and killing a massive number of people than to waging an efficient war against demons, undead or fairies.

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* Many First Age superweapons in the ''TabletopGames/{{Exalted}}'' ''TabletopGame/{{Exalted}}'' setting fall in that category. After all, we are speaking of a GoldenAge where the war against evil was supposedly ''won'', so why the hell did the Exalted continue to manufacture and stockpile world-threatening weapons in such extents? Sure, the defeated enemies (Yozis, Neverborns and Rashka) are still around and that totally justifies some things. The Realm Defense Grid, for example, is a rather well designed superwapon, which has world-shattering capabilities but can also be used for more small-scale and limited warfare, and comes with serious security systems and safety mechanisms. But honestly, what good can come from things like [[FantasticNuke Thousand-Forged Dragons]], [[NeutronBomb Soulbreaker Orbs]], or mass destruction Solar circle spells such as Rain of Doom? They are clearly more suited to devastating Creation and killing a massive number of people than to waging an efficient war against demons, undead or fairies.
16th May '16 3:48:14 PM LadyJaneGrey
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* Building something like this was the reason the Great Gazoo was banished on ''WesternAnimation/TheFlintstones''; he invented what he described as a button that would destroy the entire universe with one push. He swears he never actually intended to use it. ("I wanted to be the first on my block to have one!" he insists.)



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16th Nov '15 8:08:40 AM LadyJaneGrey
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* In ''Anime/YuGiOhGX'', there are the Sacred Beasts, [[OlympusMons three incredibly powerful cards]] that, if summoned, [[EnemyToAllLivingThings can potentially drain the life forces from duel spirits]] on a global scale. In the storyline of the anime, they are sealed in a vault underneath Duel Academy that can only be opened with seven keys that only function if they are ''won'' from their owners. The thing is, although they resemble {{Evil Counterpart}}s of the Egyptian God Cards, no true origin of them was ever specified in the series. [[FanficFuel (Fanfic writers have offered a few ideas, however.)]]
14th Nov '15 11:45:04 PM megarotic
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* [[GenericDoomsdayVillain Doomsday]] itself. He is created on prehistoric Krypton, which at that point was a hostile DeathWorld teeming with incredibly deadly species. Through some bizarre use of Kinensian evolution, Doomsday evolved into the ultimate killing machine within the span of 30 years, driving all hostile lifeforms on the planet into extinction in the process. Its then revealed that his creator hadnt actually planned for what to do once the process was complete, as he had anticipated it would take much longer, and Doomsday ends up killing him too. Ironically, it was also Doomsday driving Kryptons native fauna into extinction that allowed the Kryptonians to build their civilization, its hinted that previously, they were very isolationist and primitive as a result of their hostile homeworld.

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* [[GenericDoomsdayVillain Doomsday]] itself. He is created on prehistoric Krypton, which at that point was a hostile DeathWorld teeming with incredibly deadly species. Through some bizarre use of Kinensian evolution, Doomsday evolved into the ultimate killing machine within the span of 30 years, driving all hostile lifeforms on the planet into extinction in the process. Its then revealed that his creator hadnt hadn't actually planned for what to do once the process was complete, as he had anticipated it would take much longer, and Doomsday ends up killing him too. Ironically, it was also Doomsday driving Kryptons Kryptons' native fauna into extinction that allowed the Kryptonians to build their civilization, its civilization. It's hinted that previously, previously they were very isolationist and primitive as a result of their hostile homeworld.
5th Oct '15 12:28:46 PM Xelloss08
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* In the ''Literature/ZacharyNixonJohnson'' series, Dr. Thompson invented a planet-destroying doomsday device called the D-Cubed simply to see if he could.
--> '''Zach''': That's the problem with scientists; the thrill of invention often stops them from thinking through the consequences of their actions. They never stop to think: "Hey, there might be some potential to misuse this doomsday device so maybe it's not such a hot idea to invent it."
1st Oct '15 3:58:43 PM boxorak
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**Subverted the next time Hactar tries to build one (or rather, [[spoiler: manipulate another race into building one while secretly constructing a third itself as a back-up plan]]). When asked about it, Hactar explains its motives as a combination of a desire to fulfill its original function and revenge for being pulverized by the Silastic Armorfiends when the original Hypernova bomb didn't work (Hactar was horrified by the idea of a universe-ending weapon, and handed the Armorfiends a non-functional version).
1st Oct '15 1:35:15 PM boxorak
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* ''Anime/DragonBallGT'' brings us the black dragon balls. They appear to function exactly like those from Franchise/DragonBall, collect all seven and summon an ancient dragon who will grant a single wish. Except that if they're used, ''the planet they were used on will be destroyed a year later.''

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* ''Anime/DragonBallGT'' brings us the black dragon balls. They appear to function exactly like those from Franchise/DragonBall, collect all seven and summon an ancient dragon who will grant a single wish. Except that if they're used, ''the planet they were used on will be destroyed a year later.'''' As an added bonus, they're harder to find than the normal kind, as they spread themselves all over the universe.
1st May '15 9:52:33 PM Quanyails
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In the ''Franchise/{{Stargate|Verse}}'' setting, the Ancients seemed to make a hobby of building these : most of the plots of ''Series/StargateAtlantis'' that aren't related to Wraith come from ridiculously dangerous unlabeled Ancient stuff. Downplayed, in that most of them had an actual purpose (killing Wraith), they just forgot to add, well, any failsafe or documentation. Prominent examples include:

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In the ''Franchise/{{Stargate|Verse}}'' setting, the Ancients seemed to make a hobby of building these : these; most of the plots of ''Series/StargateAtlantis'' that aren't related to Wraith come from ridiculously dangerous unlabeled Ancient stuff. Downplayed, in that most of them had an actual purpose (killing Wraith), they just forgot to add, well, any failsafe or documentation. Prominent examples include:
2nd Apr '15 10:06:18 PM merotoker
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->Self destruct lever. A mechanism that, for example, could flood your fort with magma, or release a trapped megabeast. For bonus points, build the whole fort on a single support.\\

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->Self destruct lever. A mechanism that, for example, could flood your fort with magma, or release a trapped megabeast. For bonus points, build the whole fort on a single support.\\




* In ''{{Slayers}}'', the elves created a powerful weapon that is immune to all magical attacks. It could also spit out smaller duplicates. Unfortunately [[spoiler: since the artifact is immune to all magic, it cannot be controlled. So, the elves just buried it and hope no one will ever find it.]]
* ''DragonBallGT'' brings us the black dragon balls. They appear to function exactly like those from DragonBall, collect all seven and summon an ancient dragon who will grant a single wish. Except that if they're used, ''the planet they were used on will be destroyed a year later.''

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\n* In ''{{Slayers}}'', ''LightNovel/{{Slayers}}'', the elves created a powerful weapon that is immune to all magical attacks. It could also spit out smaller duplicates. Unfortunately [[spoiler: since the artifact is immune to all magic, it cannot be controlled. So, the elves just buried it and hope no one will ever find it.]]
* ''DragonBallGT'' ''Anime/DragonBallGT'' brings us the black dragon balls. They appear to function exactly like those from DragonBall, Franchise/DragonBall, collect all seven and summon an ancient dragon who will grant a single wish. Except that if they're used, ''the planet they were used on will be destroyed a year later.''
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* The [[MarvelUniverse Ultimate Nullifier]] is a device that can disintegrate anything (and sometimes more than that, depending on the continuity)--up to and including the entire universe. It's been used to stand off Galactus, but it's not at all clear why the thing exists in the first place, or why it's kept in Galactus' starbase.
** It's actually [[spoiler:a part of Galactus himself.]]

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* The [[MarvelUniverse [[Franchise/MarvelUniverse Ultimate Nullifier]] is a device that can disintegrate anything (and sometimes more than that, depending on the continuity)--up to and including the entire universe. It's been used to stand off Galactus, but it's not at all clear why the thing exists in the first place, or why it's kept in Galactus' starbase.
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starbase. It's actually [[spoiler:a part of Galactus himself.]]
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* In the SoBadItsGood movie ''Film/PumaMan'', the artifact in question is a mask that can control minds. This mask was designed by a race of SufficientlyAdvancedAliens who believe that "Each man is a god, each man is free." This mask has no purpose other than to steal people's will, it can even be used to [[PsychicAssistedSuicide force people to commit suicide]].

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\n* In the SoBadItsGood movie ''Film/PumaMan'', the artifact in question is a mask that can control minds. This mask was designed by a race of SufficientlyAdvancedAliens {{Sufficiently Advanced Alien}}s who believe that "Each man is a god, each man is free." This mask has no purpose other than to steal people's will, it can even be used to [[PsychicAssistedSuicide force people to commit suicide]].



* The Russians' [[DoomsdayDevice Doomsday Machine]] from ''DrStrangelove'' actually had a very good point to it: to prevent nuclear holocaust by threatening to destroy the entire world in the event of a nuclear exchange -- the ultimate form of [[MutuallyAssuredDestruction mutually assured destruction]]. [[BlackComedy Unfortunately, the Russians hadn't gotten around to telling anybody about it just yet. They were saving the announcement for a special occasion, because, as the ambassador puts it, "The Premier loves surprises".]] As the eponymous [[MadScientist doctor]] points out, a deterrent isn't very deterring if nobody knows about it, which turns it into this trope.

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* The Russians' [[DoomsdayDevice Doomsday Machine]] from ''DrStrangelove'' ''Film/DrStrangelove'' actually had a very good point to it: to prevent nuclear holocaust by threatening to destroy the entire world in the event of a nuclear exchange -- the ultimate form of [[MutuallyAssuredDestruction mutually assured destruction]]. [[BlackComedy Unfortunately, the Russians hadn't gotten around to telling anybody about it just yet. They were saving the announcement for a special occasion, because, as the ambassador puts it, "The Premier loves surprises".]] As the eponymous [[MadScientist doctor]] points out, a deterrent isn't very deterring if nobody knows about it, which turns it into this trope.






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* ''Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer'' has multiple doomsday devices, spells and other various things.
* The planet-eating "doomsday machine" that appears in an episode of ''Series/StarTrekTheOriginalSeries'' seems to be one of these. Kirk can only guess as to where it may have come from or why it was activated, but he still has to stop it before it destroys anything else.
** His guess is that it was built for an ancient war that neither side survived after it was activated. If true the trope wouldn't apply, since it wasn't forgotten so much as it just kind of wandered off while still in use.
*** PeterDavid's [[Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration TNG]] novel ''Vendetta'' expands on the doomsday machine: It was built as a last-ditch weapon by a race which had been nearly wiped out by The Borg. The one that Kirk destroyed was on an automated course, not to Earth, but ''through'' Earth to get to Borg territory. The one Kirk destroyed was also just the prototype. A far more powerful one has to be dealt with over the course of the novel. [[spoiler: Ultimately very very pointless as it attempts to go to warp 10 and gets stuck in the Dichotomy motion Paradox. Amazingly, references to transwarp (Voyager) don't really break continuity as you need special gizmos go into transwarp. The ship was just using a regular warp drive.]]

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* Larry Niven's ''KnownSpace'' novels and short stories have one of these in the distant background, a device which supposedly ended the "Slaver Wars" and left fragmentary populations of survivors to survive into the distant future.
* The Franchise/StarWarsExpandedUniverse features the [[MarvelStarWars Shawken Device]], which is supposed to destroy the universe. It is notable for operating on principles that are considered dubious at best even by characters in the comic book in which it appears. But nobody really wants to test it, just in case. Luke and his sort-of apprentice even go to great lengths to disable it.
* Also from the ''StarWars EU'' is Centerpoint Station, a massive space station with the power to both move and destroy celestial bodies. Built by a ancient race called the Celestials, it doesn't seem to serve a purpose besides being a handy superweapon for the plot. [[spoiler:Until FateOfTheJedi revealed it SealedEvilInACan... Or rather, it was effectively a gun pointed at the Can that was supposed to go off should the Sealed Evil escape. [[NiceJobBreakingItHero Too bad the heroes blew it up in the previous story arc]].]]

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\n* Larry Niven's ''KnownSpace'' ''Literature/KnownSpace'' novels and short stories have one of these in the distant background, a device which supposedly ended the "Slaver Wars" and left fragmentary populations of survivors to survive into the distant future.
* Franchise/StarWarsExpandedUniverse
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The Franchise/StarWarsExpandedUniverse features the [[MarvelStarWars [[ComicBook/MarvelStarWars Shawken Device]], which is supposed to destroy the universe. It is notable for operating on principles that are considered dubious at best even by characters in the comic book in which it appears. But nobody really wants to test it, just in case. Luke and his sort-of apprentice even go to great lengths to disable it.
* Also from the ''StarWars EU'' is ** Centerpoint Station, a massive space station with the power to both move and destroy celestial bodies. Built by a ancient race called the Celestials, it doesn't seem to serve a purpose besides being a handy superweapon for the plot. [[spoiler:Until FateOfTheJedi revealed it SealedEvilInACan... Or rather, it was effectively a gun pointed at the Can that was supposed to go off should the Sealed Evil escape. [[NiceJobBreakingItHero Too bad the heroes blew it up in the previous story arc]].]]



* ''Possibly'' the Time Matrix from ''Literature/{{Animorphs}}.'' In ''The Andalite Chronicles,'' it was implied to have been created by [[SufficientlyAdvancedAliens the Ellimist(s)]], the theory being that he/they used it to AscendToAHigherPlaneOfExistence in the first place. Years and dozens of books later ''The Ellimist Chronicles'' told the ''real'' story of how this happened, and the Time Matrix didn't even get a mention. So, who knows?

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* ''Possibly'' the The Time Matrix from ''Literature/{{Animorphs}}.'' In ''The Andalite Chronicles,'' it was implied to have been created by [[SufficientlyAdvancedAliens [[SufficientlyAdvancedAlien the Ellimist(s)]], the theory being that he/they used it to AscendToAHigherPlaneOfExistence in the first place. Years and dozens of books later ''The Ellimist Chronicles'' told the ''real'' story of how this happened, and the Time Matrix didn't even get a mention. So, who knows?



* TheMagiciansNephew has the Deplorable Word which, once spoken, will eliminate all life in the universe other than the speaker. Its pointlessness is sort of the point.

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* TheMagiciansNephew ''Literature/TheMagiciansNephew'' has the Deplorable Word which, once spoken, will eliminate all life in the universe other than the speaker. Its pointlessness is sort of the point.
point.



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* ''Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer'' has multiple doomsday devices, spells and other various things.
* The planet-eating "doomsday machine" that appears in an episode of ''Series/StarTrekTheOriginalSeries'' seems to be one of these. Kirk can only guess as to where it may have come from or why it was activated, but he still has to stop it before it destroys anything else.
** His guess is that it was built for an ancient war that neither side survived after it was activated. If true the trope wouldn't apply, since it wasn't forgotten so much as it just kind of wandered off while still in use.
*** Creator/PeterDavid's [[Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration TNG]] novel ''Vendetta'' expands on the doomsday machine: It was built as a last-ditch weapon by a race which had been nearly wiped out by The Borg. The one that Kirk destroyed was on an automated course, not to Earth, but ''through'' Earth to get to Borg territory. The one Kirk destroyed was also just the prototype. A far more powerful one has to be dealt with over the course of the novel. [[spoiler: Ultimately very very pointless as it attempts to go to warp 10 and gets stuck in the Dichotomy motion Paradox. Amazingly, references to transwarp (Voyager) don't really break continuity as you need special gizmos go into transwarp. The ship was just using a regular warp drive.]]
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* Played with in ''{{Warhammer 40000}}''. Finding ancient doomsday weapons with no clear purpose evident is pretty common, but the setting being what it is, pretty much all of them did have a purpose at one point in time. The Blackstone Fortresses, for example, seemed pointless until the Necrons, whom the Fortresses were built to combat, returned.
* Many First Age superweapons in the ''TabletopGames/{{Exalted}}'' setting fall in that category. After all, we are speaking of a GoldenAge where the war against evil was supposedly ''won'', so why the hell did the Exalted continue to manufacture and stockpile world-theatening weapons in such extents? Sure, the defeated enemies (Yozis, Neverborns and Rashka) are still around and that totally justifies some things. The Realm Defense Grid, for example, is a rather well designed superwapon, which has world-shattering capabilities but can also be used for more small-scale and limited warfare, and comes with serious security systems and safety mechanisms. But honestly, what good can come from things like [[FantasticNuke Thousand-Forged Dragons]], [[NeutronBomb Soulbreaker Orbs]], or mass destruction Solar circle spells such as Rain of Doom? They are clearly more suited to devastating Creation and killing a massive number of people than to waging an efficient war against demons, undead or fairies.

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* Played with in ''{{Warhammer ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}}''. Finding ancient doomsday weapons with no clear purpose evident is pretty common, but the setting being what it is, pretty much all of them did have a purpose at one point in time. The Blackstone Fortresses, for example, seemed pointless until the Necrons, whom the Fortresses were built to combat, returned.
* Many First Age superweapons in the ''TabletopGames/{{Exalted}}'' setting fall in that category. After all, we are speaking of a GoldenAge where the war against evil was supposedly ''won'', so why the hell did the Exalted continue to manufacture and stockpile world-theatening world-threatening weapons in such extents? Sure, the defeated enemies (Yozis, Neverborns and Rashka) are still around and that totally justifies some things. The Realm Defense Grid, for example, is a rather well designed superwapon, which has world-shattering capabilities but can also be used for more small-scale and limited warfare, and comes with serious security systems and safety mechanisms. But honestly, what good can come from things like [[FantasticNuke Thousand-Forged Dragons]], [[NeutronBomb Soulbreaker Orbs]], or mass destruction Solar circle spells such as Rain of Doom? They are clearly more suited to devastating Creation and killing a massive number of people than to waging an efficient war against demons, undead or fairies.






* Just whom did the {{Precursors}} of ''StarControl'' have to deal with that warranted the fleet buster that was the Sa-Matra? And why would they leave it behind when they left the Galaxy?

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* Just whom did the {{Precursors}} of ''StarControl'' ''VideoGame/StarControl'' have to deal with that warranted the fleet buster that was the Sa-Matra? And why would they leave it behind when they left the Galaxy?



* This was Dr. Ivo "Eggman" Robotnik's M.O. from about 1998-2008 in Franchise/SonicTheHedgehog. He would look for some SealedEvilInACan, often a god or EldritchAbomination of some sort. It would almost always run amok until [[BigDamnHeroes Sonic and his pals]] invariably showed up. [[VideoGame/SonicColors Lately]], [[VideoGame/SonicTheHedgehog4 how]][[VideoGame/SonicGenerations ever]], he seems to be creating original plans again.

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* This was Dr. Ivo "Eggman" Robotnik's M.O. from about 1998-2008 in Franchise/SonicTheHedgehog.''Franchise/SonicTheHedgehog''. He would look for some SealedEvilInACan, often a god or EldritchAbomination of some sort. It would almost always run amok until [[BigDamnHeroes Sonic and his pals]] invariably showed up. [[VideoGame/SonicColors Lately]], [[VideoGame/SonicTheHedgehog4 how]][[VideoGame/SonicGenerations ever]], he seems to be creating original plans again.



** It was also a secret contingency in case the Unity met a enemy it could not defeat, they would destroy them with it. Still kinda baddly guarded for a doomsday weapon, through.

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** It was also a secret contingency in case the Unity met a enemy it could not defeat, they would destroy them with it. Still kinda baddly badly guarded for a doomsday weapon, through.







* ''WebAnimation/TheDementedCartoonMovie'' has [[DoomyDoomsOfDoom "The Evil Machine Thing O' Doom".]] {{Lampshaded}} when [[BigBad Evil Blah]] asks "Alright, what the hell does that machine do?" As it turns out, it does nothing but shoot goo out.

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\n* ''WebAnimation/TheDementedCartoonMovie'' has [[DoomyDoomsOfDoom "The Evil Machine Thing O' Doom".]] {{Lampshaded}} {{Lampshade|Hanging}}d when [[BigBad Evil Blah]] asks "Alright, what the hell does that machine do?" As it turns out, it does nothing but shoot goo out.
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