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24th Apr '17 6:36:00 PM nombretomado
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* The Eternal Sword in ''VideoGame/TalesOfPhantasia'' is outclassed by some BonusDungeon weapons. It doesn't stop other [[TalesSeries Tales games]] from using it as a proper Infinity Plus One Sword. ''VideoGame/TalesOfEternia'' reverses this, as it's the Excalibur that serves as the PenultimateWeapon to the Eternal Sword.

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* The Eternal Sword in ''VideoGame/TalesOfPhantasia'' is outclassed by some BonusDungeon weapons. It doesn't stop other [[TalesSeries [[VideoGame/TalesSeries Tales games]] from using it as a proper Infinity Plus One Sword. ''VideoGame/TalesOfEternia'' reverses this, as it's the Excalibur that serves as the PenultimateWeapon to the Eternal Sword.
5th Apr '17 2:00:41 PM Willbyr
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* Happens a lot in {{Maplestory}}. Considering the [[AbsurdlyHighLevelCap max level]] being lv 200 and the highest level equipment available overseas in the (original and content-heavier) Korean version being 140, there will always be much room for game designers to add better and stronger equipment in the future.

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* Happens a lot in {{Maplestory}}.''VideoGame/MapleStory''. Considering the [[AbsurdlyHighLevelCap max level]] being lv 200 and the highest level equipment available overseas in the (original and content-heavier) Korean version being 140, there will always be much room for game designers to add better and stronger equipment in the future.
10th Mar '17 12:06:06 PM BeerBaron
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* ''[[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIIIMorrowind The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind]]'': While Chrysamere is hailed as the best long sword in the game and is a true {{BFS}}, it is slightly inferior to the [[SwordOfPlotAdvancement Hammer Of Plot Advancement]] Sunder, which at no point is described as anything but a tool to achieve the final task (it ''is'' a hammer). According to the GuideDangIt, the InfinityPlusOneSword are supposed to be Goldbrand and Eltonbrand, but those are StatisticallySpeaking even worse than Chrysamere. (Though they are the best one-handed weapons, so you can use them with a shield.) The true InfinityPlusOneSword is [[spoiler:a custom enchanted Daedric Battleaxe, using [[AGodAmI Vivec's]] [[DidYouJustPunchOutCthulhu soul]].]]
** Or [[spoiler:Almalexia's, if you have Tribunal.]]

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* ''[[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIIIMorrowind The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind]]'': ''VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIIIMorrowind'': While Chrysamere is hailed as the best long sword in the game and is a true {{BFS}}, it is slightly inferior to the [[SwordOfPlotAdvancement Hammer Of Plot Advancement]] Sunder, which at no point is described as anything but a tool to achieve the final task (it ''is'' a hammer). According to the GuideDangIt, the weapons listed under InfinityPlusOneSword and InfinityMinusOneSword are supposed to be Goldbrand and Eltonbrand, but those are StatisticallySpeaking even worse than Chrysamere. (Though they are all among the best one-handed weapons, so you in the game, they can use them with be beaten using a shield.) The true InfinityPlusOneSword is [[spoiler:a Daedric weapon you've custom enchanted yourself with a powerful soul. (The single most damaging weapon in the game would be a Daedric Battleaxe, Battle Axe custom enchanted with a Damage Health spell, using [[AGodAmI Vivec's]] [[DidYouJustPunchOutCthulhu soul]].]]
** Or [[spoiler:Almalexia's, if you have Tribunal.]]
[[spoiler:Almalexia's]] soul trapped in Azura's Star for the maximum number of blows before being drained.)
14th Feb '17 1:38:47 PM Gosicrystal
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* ''VideoGame/ShadowHearts'': All the games have a penultimate weapon (The first game even had penultimate armor) available in the last two dungeons, usually in chests and some obtained in the trials. These weapons can't be found anywhere else, so once you sell them, they're LostForever. Some of the trials require less damage done to win, so these are worth holding onto. Karin in Covenant actually gets two, one got at the end of Disc One, and the other found in the penultimate dungeon. The real ultimate weapons are usually found in side quests.

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* ''VideoGame/ShadowHearts'': All the games have a penultimate weapon (The (the first game even had penultimate armor) available in the last two dungeons, usually in chests and some obtained in the trials. These weapons can't be found anywhere else, so once you sell them, they're LostForever.[[PermanentlyMissableContent gone]]. Some of the trials require less damage done to win, so these are worth holding onto. Karin in Covenant actually gets two, one got at the end of Disc One, and the other found in the penultimate dungeon. The real ultimate weapons are usually found in side quests.
14th Jan '17 7:03:17 PM nombretomado
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* The Dual Blade in the ''Franchise/{{Lufia}}'' series is rarely the game's strongest weapon. [[BonusDungeon The Ancient Cave]] typically provides more powerful weapons, and the Might Sword in ''[[VideoGame/LufiaAndTheFortressOfDoom Fortress of Doom]]'' can be [[RandomlyDrops obtained from Hydras]] long, long before you even know where the Dual Blade is.

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* The Dual Blade in the ''Franchise/{{Lufia}}'' ''VideoGame/{{Lufia}}'' series is rarely the game's strongest weapon. [[BonusDungeon The Ancient Cave]] typically provides more powerful weapons, and the Might Sword in ''[[VideoGame/LufiaAndTheFortressOfDoom Fortress of Doom]]'' can be [[RandomlyDrops obtained from Hydras]] long, long before you even know where the Dual Blade is.
24th Dec '16 11:41:47 AM nombretomado
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* ''{{Arcanum}}'''s "Quench Life" spell, [[GameplayAndStorySegregation described in-game]] as OneHitKill against any living creature. Some creatures just need to be one-hit killed multiple times before grasping the principle of death.

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* ''{{Arcanum}}'''s ''VideoGame/ArcanumOfSteamworksAndMagickObscura'''s "Quench Life" spell, [[GameplayAndStorySegregation described in-game]] as OneHitKill against any living creature. Some creatures just need to be one-hit killed multiple times before grasping the principle of death.
10th Dec '16 1:56:17 PM Tyrathius
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* ''VideoGame/TalesOfVesperia'': Yuri is temporarily lent the Dein Nomos around halfway through the game. Most players probably didn't think they'd to get to keep it, but given how much the sword had been built up and the [[CutscenePowerToTheMax awesome power it commands in cutscenes]], you might expect this to be ATasteOfPower where you get to wield the InfinityPlusOneSword. It's actually an incredibly average weapon. Though it will probably be the strongest sword in your inventory when you first get it (assuming you aren't on a NewGamePlus with endgame equipment) you'll find better ones long before you're required to give it up. The only really noteworthy thing about it is that it teaches Yuri the [[LimitBreak Special]] skill, but it's not even the only weapon in the game that can do that. The real InfinityPlusOneSword later turns out to be a different weapon, [[spoiler: though it's part of the same set as Dein Nomos.]]
18th Sep '16 5:29:26 AM Rallan
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* The Ultimate Weapons from ''Videogame/FinalFantasyX'' are very powerful weapons that outclass anything you'll get from vendors or chests, but you can use the crafting system to make custom weapons that are better. And if you want to take on SideBosses like the Arena Monsters or the Dark Aeons, you'll have to.
2nd Aug '16 10:37:06 AM gophergiggles
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* Out of all the weapons like axes, knives, bats, crowbars, and even guns found throughout ''VideoGame/SilentHillDownpour'', the one you want to hang onto is the ''Fire Hook''. It has the highest range out of all melee weapons, is [[BreakableWeapons unbreakable]], only incapacitates enemies ([[spoiler:not killing enemies is mandatory for the best ending]]), and has the secondary purpose of reaching fire escapes. It even beats out the weapons found in [[BribingYourWayToVictory the green lockers]].

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* Out of all the weapons like axes, knives, bats, crowbars, and even guns found throughout ''VideoGame/SilentHillDownpour'', the one you want to hang onto is the ''Fire Hook''.Hook'', which is obtainable as early as when you reach Silent Hill's streets. It has the highest range out of all melee weapons, is [[BreakableWeapons unbreakable]], only incapacitates enemies ([[spoiler:not killing enemies is mandatory for the best ending]]), and has the secondary purpose of reaching fire escapes. It even beats out the weapons found in [[BribingYourWayToVictory the green lockers]].
29th Jun '16 7:04:51 AM VVK
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The reality is, just because [[FamedInStory everybody you've ever met]] [[LegendaryWeapon hailed your shiny weapon as the mightiest in all the world]] doesn't always mean that they're ''[[ShroudedInMyth right]]''. Or, perhaps that sword truly is the most powerful sword in existence... when [[CutscenePowerToTheMax cutscenes call for it]]. Sure, it may be able to slice the entire palace in half, but when you're actually playing the game, [[GameplayAndStorySegregation the new one just happens to have 5 more attack points]]. And don't get too attached to that new sword you found - expect to find [[InfinityPlusOneSword a weapon that outclasses]] ''that'' in, or for clearing, the BonusDungeon.

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The reality is, just because [[FamedInStory everybody you've ever met]] [[LegendaryWeapon hailed your shiny weapon as the mightiest in all the world]] doesn't always mean that they're ''[[ShroudedInMyth right]]''. Or, perhaps that sword truly is the most powerful sword in existence... when [[CutscenePowerToTheMax cutscenes call for it]]. Sure, it may be able to slice the entire palace in half, but when you're actually playing the game, [[GameplayAndStorySegregation the new one just happens to have 5 more attack points]]. And don't get too attached to that new sword you found - -- expect to find [[InfinityPlusOneSword a weapon that outclasses]] ''that'' in, or for clearing, the BonusDungeon.



* Any ultimate weapon in ''WorldOfWarcraft'' that's from an earlier expansion pack (or, goodness forbid, from the unexpanded game). Thunderfury, for example.
** Really ''any'' gear from previous content. Within the same expansions, the best gear from one raid tier (with some exceptions) lies between the low and medium grades of the next tier. When new expansions come out, the very best and hard to get stuff from the previous one is eclipsed by lowly quest rewards before long. More, ''Cataclysm'' has made it so that it's finally true what people have been incorrectly (exaggeratedly) claiming about the previous expansions: the lowest new items are immediately a match (almost) for the best old ones. It's probably because getting really good stuff was made much easier in the previous expansion.

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* Any ultimate weapon in ''WorldOfWarcraft'' that's from an earlier expansion pack (or, goodness forbid, from the unexpanded game). Thunderfury, for example.
** Really ''any'' gear from previous content. Within the same expansions, the best gear from one raid tier (with some exceptions) lies between the low and medium grades of the next tier.
example. When new expansions come out, the very best and hard to get stuff from the previous one is eclipsed by lowly quest rewards before long. More, ''Cataclysm'' has made it so that it's it was finally true what people have had been incorrectly (exaggeratedly) claiming about the previous expansions: the lowest new items are immediately a match (almost) for the best old ones. It's probably because getting really good stuff was made much easier in the previous expansion.ones.
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