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3rd Dec '16 5:37:03 AM krimzonflygon2
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* ''VideoGame/AssassinsCreed'' invokes this trope when dealing with the main targets. After Altaïr delivers mortal damage to his targets, he then stabs them in the throat - ''whereupon every single target goes into a MotiveRant''. Granted, they do die within a couple of minutes, but exactly how can you give a (not even remotely rasping) speech immediately after being stabbed in the throat? The only ''possible'' answer is justified by the implication that the Animus is reconstructing memories based on what actually happened, with the player's actions only affecting how they're reached. All the speeches take place in a blue background, and if you press a button when the screen glitches, you see the men walking around as though nothing happened. So it's very possible that the men simply hadn't been stabbed yet when Altaïr actually spoke with them.

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* ''VideoGame/AssassinsCreed'' invokes this trope when dealing with the main targets. After Altaïr delivers mortal damage to his targets, he then stabs them in the throat - ''whereupon every single target goes into a MotiveRant''. Granted, they do die within a couple of minutes, but exactly how can you give a (not even remotely rasping) speech immediately after being stabbed in the throat? The only ''possible'' answer is justified by the implication that the Animus is reconstructing memories based on what actually happened, with the player's actions only affecting how they're reached. All the speeches take place in a blue background, and if you press a button when the screen glitches, you see the men walking around as though nothing happened. So it's very possible that the men simply hadn't been stabbed yet when Altaïr actually spoke with them. [[VoodooShark But that would mean Altair and his target are pontificating to each other while everyone else, guards and all, is just standing there watching, and only intervene when Altair actually makes the kill.]]
30th Nov '16 11:37:10 AM ChaoticNovelist
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* Many warrior cultures have existed throughout the ages, with numbers of tough men from Spartans to Samurai gracing this trope. However, honourable mention must be made for the Viking Berserker, a class of warrior repeatedly mentioned in historical accounts of friends and foes alike for never feeling pain and continuing to fight despite incurring mortal wounds. They were also extremely dangerous with such strong bloodlust that they could turn on their own men in battle, leading to eventual outlawing across the Norse world. Explanations from modern experts have ranged from them getting too drunk to reason or feel pain to using psychoactive mushrooms to a bizarre form of functional and conscious epilepsy. Whatever the cause, the effect was clear - they treated everything as just a flesh wound.
** However, a less known explanation is that because of adrenaline, people do not collapse from the pain of a mortal wound but continue to fight until the damage finally takes it toll on the body. This [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4f88E12ldyY video]] explains it all.

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* Many warrior cultures have existed throughout the ages, with numbers of tough men from Spartans to Samurai gracing this trope. However, honourable mention must be made for the Viking Berserker, a class of warrior repeatedly mentioned in historical accounts of friends and foes alike for never feeling pain and continuing to fight despite incurring mortal wounds. They were also extremely dangerous with such strong bloodlust that they could turn on their own men in battle, leading to eventual outlawing across the Norse world. Explanations from modern experts have ranged from them getting too drunk to reason or feel pain to using psychoactive mushrooms to a bizarre form of functional and conscious epilepsy. Whatever the cause, the effect was clear - they treated everything as just a flesh wound.
** However, a less known explanation is that because of adrenaline, people do not collapse from the pain of a mortal wound but continue to fight until the damage finally takes it toll on the body. This [[http://www.
adrenaline [[note]] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4f88E12ldyY video]] explains it all.[[/note]] to using psychoactive mushrooms to a bizarre form of functional and conscious epilepsy. Whatever the cause, the effect was clear - they treated everything as just a flesh wound.



** As one historian put it, "You shoot a man with a .38, and he'll be bloody angry at you. You shoot him with a .45, and he'll be angry on his back." There is still some debate over the legitimacy of this argument; hit a man in the right place with a .38, and he'll go down same as with a .45.
*** There is more at play in this particular case. .38 Long Colt was notoriously underpowered as a result of some quirks regarding the bullet diameter compared to the chamber throat. The bullet was supposed to expand in the throat and then be swaged down as it entered the barrel. However, expansion was uneven, resulting in very poor accuracy and terminal performance. Without accuracy, it became understandably more difficult to get good shot placement. See also Antonio Caspi's attempted prison escape for another example of .38 Long Colt failing to be an effective stopper.

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** As one historian put it, "You shoot a man with a .38, and he'll be bloody angry at you. You shoot him with a .45, and he'll be angry on his back." There is still some debate over the legitimacy of this argument; hit a man in the right place with a .38, and he'll go down same as with a .45.
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45. Further in this particular case. .the debate is....
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38 Long Colt was notoriously underpowered as a result of some quirks regarding the bullet diameter compared to the chamber throat. The bullet was supposed to expand in the throat and then be swaged down as it entered the barrel. However, expansion was uneven, resulting in very poor accuracy and terminal performance. Without accuracy, it became understandably more difficult to get good shot placement. See also Antonio Caspi's attempted prison escape for another example of .38 Long Colt failing to be an effective stopper.



* US President UsefulNotes/AndrewJackson got into a duel over [[BerserkButton his wife's honor.]] He was so angry that he allowed the other man to fire first so that he could take his time with his shot and kill him for sure. The other man's bullet hit him in the lung. Unfazed, Jackson aimed carefully and killed the man. All told, Jackson acquired ''several'' bullets and a ''bayonet tip'' in his body. One of his secretaries wrote that he "rattled like a bag of marbles" when he walked.

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* US President UsefulNotes/AndrewJackson UsefulNotes/AndrewJackson
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got into a duel over [[BerserkButton his wife's honor.]] He was so angry that he allowed the other man to fire first so that he could take his time with his shot and kill him for sure. The other man's bullet hit him in the lung. Unfazed, Jackson aimed carefully and killed the man. All told, Jackson acquired ''several'' bullets and a ''bayonet tip'' in his body. One of his secretaries wrote that he "rattled like a bag of marbles" when he walked.



* UsefulNotes/TheodoreRoosevelt was shot by an assassin right before giving a campaign speech. It would have killed him if not for the [[PocketProtector eyeglass case and folded-up speech in his jacket pocket]], which slowed the bullet down enough for it to only become lodged in his lung instead of passing clean through. And in one of the most famous of his ''many'' feats of [[{{Badass}} badassery]], went ahead and gave the 90-minute long speech as planned, with the opening line, "Ladies and gentlemen, I don't know whether you fully understand that I have just been shot; but it takes more than that to kill a Bull Moose." Later, Roosevelt reasoned that it was safer to tell his doctors not to remove the bullet due to the crude level of surgery in those days (perhaps recalling the fate of his predecessor at President, UsefulNotes/WilliamMcKinley). He survived.

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* UsefulNotes/TheodoreRoosevelt was shot by an assassin right before giving a campaign speech. It would have killed him if not for the [[PocketProtector eyeglass case and folded-up speech in his jacket pocket]], which slowed the bullet down enough for it to only become lodged in his lung instead of passing clean through. And in In one of the most famous of his ''many'' feats of [[{{Badass}} badassery]], badassery, went ahead and gave the 90-minute long speech as planned, with the opening line, "Ladies and gentlemen, I don't know whether you fully understand that I have just been shot; but it takes more than that to kill a Bull Moose." Later, Roosevelt reasoned that it was safer to tell his doctors not to remove the bullet due to the crude level of surgery in those days (perhaps recalling the fate of his predecessor at President, UsefulNotes/WilliamMcKinley). He survived.



* [[http://newhavenindependent.org/index.php/archives/entry/sandwich_first_gunshot_wounds_later/id_31146 This guy]] walked out of a sandwich shop, got shot twice, and instead of going straight to the hospital, he decided to go home and eat his sandwich first. Bullets in the leg and groin? Psh! I've got a sandwich to eat, fool!
** Those must have been some ''great'' sandwiches.

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* [[http://newhavenindependent.org/index.php/archives/entry/sandwich_first_gunshot_wounds_later/id_31146 This guy]] walked out of a sandwich shop, got shot twice, and instead of going straight to the hospital, he decided to go home and eat his sandwich first. Bullets in the leg and groin? Psh! I've got a sandwich to eat, fool!
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fool! Those must have been some ''great'' sandwiches.
30th Nov '16 11:02:51 AM ChaoticNovelist
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Video Games are usually an exception/subversion. Draining a game target's HP is quasi-realistic enough to kill/destroy it even if all damage was to the legs or arms. In games with [[LudicrousGibs dismemberment]], taking off a limb may lead to instant death. Very few video games actually feature bleeding though, but those that do tend to be OverdrawnAtTheBloodBank. Surprisingly, a person suffering a [[AnArmAndALeg traumatic amputation]] in RealLife is often less likely to bleed out due to an autonomic muscle clamping response that closes major blood vessels. In these cases a clean cut or puncture is actually more dangerous.

Do note that many of the examples below, especially ones from more recent media, are subversions or outright aversions. A small part of RealityEnsues.

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Video Games are usually an exception/subversion.exception. Draining a game target's HP is quasi-realistic enough to kill/destroy it even if all damage was to the legs or arms. In games with [[LudicrousGibs dismemberment]], taking off a limb may lead to instant death. Very few video games actually feature bleeding though, but and those that do tend to be OverdrawnAtTheBloodBank. Surprisingly, a person suffering a [[AnArmAndALeg traumatic amputation]] in RealLife is often less likely to bleed out due to an autonomic muscle clamping response that closes major blood vessels. In these cases a clean cut or puncture is actually more dangerous.

Do note that many of the examples below, especially ones from more recent media, below are subversions or outright aversions. A small part of RealityEnsues.



* ''VideoGame/AssassinsCreed'' invokes this trope when dealing with the main targets. After Altaïr delivers mortal damage to his targets, he then stabs them in the throat - ''whereupon every single target goes into a HannibalLecture''. Granted, they do die within a couple of minutes, but exactly how can you give a (not even remotely rasping) speech immediately after being stabbed in the throat?
** ''Possibly'' justified by the implication that the Animus is reconstructing memories based on what actually happened, with the player's actions only affecting how they're reached. All the speeches take place in a blue background, and if you press a button when the screen glitches, you see the men walking around as though nothing happened. So it's very possible that the men simply hadn't been stabbed yet when Altaïr actually spoke with them.

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* ''VideoGame/AssassinsCreed'' invokes this trope when dealing with the main targets. After Altaïr delivers mortal damage to his targets, he then stabs them in the throat - ''whereupon every single target goes into a HannibalLecture''. MotiveRant''. Granted, they do die within a couple of minutes, but exactly how can you give a (not even remotely rasping) speech immediately after being stabbed in the throat?
** ''Possibly''
throat? The only ''possible'' answer is justified by the implication that the Animus is reconstructing memories based on what actually happened, with the player's actions only affecting how they're reached. All the speeches take place in a blue background, and if you press a button when the screen glitches, you see the men walking around as though nothing happened. So it's very possible that the men simply hadn't been stabbed yet when Altaïr actually spoke with them.
25th Nov '16 12:09:30 PM Morgenthaler
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** However, all bets are off when it comes to the resident {{Badass}}, Hei. He once limped about halfway across town after being shot through the leg (unsurprisingly, [[BerserkButton Amber was involved]]), and in the {{interquel}} [=OVAs=] isn't even slowed down when he gets a foot-long shard of wood through his shoulder. He just pulls it out and walks off. Oh, and he managed to do a CeilingCling with a knife embedded in his arm.

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** However, all bets are off when it comes to the resident {{Badass}}, badass, Hei. He once limped about halfway across town after being shot through the leg (unsurprisingly, [[BerserkButton Amber was involved]]), and in the {{interquel}} [=OVAs=] isn't even slowed down when he gets a foot-long shard of wood through his shoulder. He just pulls it out and walks off. Oh, and he managed to do a CeilingCling with a knife embedded in his arm.
22nd Nov '16 2:26:30 PM IndustriousArc
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* Brutally [[AvertedTrope averted]] in ''Fire Emblem Fates'' fic ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/11962940/1/ A Brighter Dark]]'' where even "light" hits are enough to effectively remove a character from play for long periods of time
** [[SubvertedTrope Though less noticeable than other examples due to frequent timeskips.]]
12th Nov '16 5:05:36 PM nombretomado
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* Both averted, and played straight in the classic western ''Film/ElDorado''. JohnWayne's character, Cole Thornton is shot in the back, and while survives, suffers periodic attacks of paralysis. Later when Robert Mitchum's character is shot in the leg, the doctor tells him it's just a flesh wound, and he walks pretty well with a crutch, sometimes even switching sides. (lampshaded in the film itself)

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* Both averted, and played straight in the classic western ''Film/ElDorado''. JohnWayne's Creator/JohnWayne's character, Cole Thornton is shot in the back, and while survives, suffers periodic attacks of paralysis. Later when Robert Mitchum's character is shot in the leg, the doctor tells him it's just a flesh wound, and he walks pretty well with a crutch, sometimes even switching sides. (lampshaded in the film itself)
30th Oct '16 10:22:27 AM nombretomado
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* ''{{GURPS}}'' has an optional "Only a Flesh Wound" rule to deliberately invoke this trope in less-gritty games.

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* ''{{GURPS}}'' ''TabletopGame/{{GURPS}}'' has an optional "Only a Flesh Wound" rule to deliberately invoke this trope in less-gritty games.
25th Oct '16 7:45:55 AM VPhantom
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* ''YTheLastMan'': Yorick Brown ''tried'' to do this when confronted with an armed young Militia-woman in Arizona; they face each other, guns drawn, and they both fire. She manages to completely miss him and he only wings her in the leg. At first he cannot stop laughing - he is just so happy that neither of them is dead - until she begins to scream and bleed. He tries to patch the wound, but she is dead from blood loss before he can even get it covered (he hit an artery). He does not take it well: her death added to his already considerable emotional issues.

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* ''YTheLastMan'': ''ComicBook/YTheLastMan'': Yorick Brown ''tried'' to do this when confronted with an armed young Militia-woman in Arizona; they face each other, guns drawn, and they both fire. She manages to completely miss him and he only wings her in the leg. At first he cannot stop laughing - he is just so happy that neither of them is dead - until she begins to scream and bleed. He tries to patch the wound, but she is dead from blood loss before he can even get it covered (he hit an artery). He does not take it well: her death added to his already considerable emotional issues.
9th Oct '16 5:31:03 AM Morgenthaler
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* Terrence of ''KateModern'' gets shot in the shoulder in "Answers". The pain causes him to pass out almost instantly, but he's up and about, and apparently unimpaired, a couple of days later. [[spoiler:He ''is'' [[MadeOfIron a former Shadow]], though.]]

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* Terrence of ''KateModern'' ''WebVideo/KateModern'' gets shot in the shoulder in "Answers". The pain causes him to pass out almost instantly, but he's up and about, and apparently unimpaired, a couple of days later. [[spoiler:He ''is'' [[MadeOfIron a former Shadow]], though.]]
18th Sep '16 6:02:54 PM Kadorhal
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* Hilariously in ''VideoGame/BrutalLegend'', if a Headbanger unit is set on fire by an enemy fire unit, sometimes they'll say "I don't care, I like being on fire!
* The ''BushidoBlade'' series for the UsefulNotes/PlayStation had a "body-damage" system: if you were slashed in the arm, it became useless and your attacks were less effective one-handed. In the first game, you could be crippled in the legs, but this was removed in the sequel since it was no fun spending half the game crawling around trying to wield a katana.

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* Hilariously in ''VideoGame/BrutalLegend'', if a Headbanger unit is set on fire by an enemy fire unit, sometimes they'll say "I don't care, I like being on fire!
fire!"
* The ''BushidoBlade'' ''VideoGame/BushidoBlade'' series for the UsefulNotes/PlayStation had a "body-damage" system: if you were slashed in the arm, it became useless and your attacks were less effective one-handed. In the first game, you could be crippled in the legs, but this was removed in the sequel since it was no fun spending half the game crawling around trying to wield a katana.
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