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20th Oct '16 6:51:21 PM Vivvav
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*** It's important to note that Spectre was manipulated by Eclipso during this time and -- though still flawed logic -- thought he was doing the universe a favor by wiping out magic users who regularly break the laws of reality, which is a viewpoint at least worth debating. What's completely terrifying are the off-the-wall punishments he was dealing out BEFORE his wrath was targeted on the magic community. Destroying a wizard because he can shoot fire from his hands could be considered a preemptive measure. Impaling a man with a giant pen for tax fraud or cutting a girl's head off for being disrespectful to her parents is just insanity.
20th Oct '16 6:43:11 PM Vivvav
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* The Truth from FullmetalAlchemist. Yes, he punishes those that try to unlock the secrets of the universe, reverse death, and attain ultimate power by taking away limbs, reproductive organs, entire bodies, and even somebody's entire being, but it's ultimately because he wants people to just make do with the lives they have and appreciate the gift they've been given.
13th Oct '16 5:47:25 AM LadyJaneGrey
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* In the ''TabletopGame/{{Planescape}}'' campaign, the Athar are a group who actually call the PowersThatBe out for this Trope, calling them liars who use their power to call themselves gods, something they claim is untrue. They do, however, recognize their unfathomable power, but because the Powers depend on mortal worship to maintain their might, their (incredibly long-term) goal is to convince mortals of fraudulent divinity while encouraging the belief that mortals can shape their own destiny. (Well, most of them do. The group has a ''few'' [[SoapBoxSadie "extremists" who don't endear themselves to others]], [[StrawNihilist have questionable motives]] [[RageAgainstTheHeavens or try to take things too far...]]
2nd Oct '16 12:48:27 PM nombretomado
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* A mild version of this can be found in ''WesternAnimation/TimeSquad'': to prevent history from "unweaving", the crew needs to engage in some morally objectionable actions (making EdgarAllanPoe have a mental breakdown, create mutual tension between the Hatfields and the [=McCoys=], etc.)

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* A mild version of this can be found in ''WesternAnimation/TimeSquad'': to prevent history from "unweaving", the crew needs to engage in some morally objectionable actions (making EdgarAllanPoe Creator/EdgarAllanPoe have a mental breakdown, create mutual tension between the Hatfields and the [=McCoys=], etc.)
25th Sep '16 4:01:49 AM IamTheCaligula
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* ''Videogame/{{Touhou}}'' has Yukari, and in {{fanfic}}, also Eirin playing this card whenever they are [[AWizardDidIt the instigators of whatever plot]] is [[ConflictBall the reason for the battle royale today]].

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* ''Videogame/{{Touhou}}'' Zigzagged with Yukari Yakumo from the ''Videogame/TouhouProject''. As the founder, protector and benefactor of [[FantasyKitchenSink Gensoukyou]], everything she does is for the realm's sake... However, Gensoukyou is a FantasticNatureReserve, meaning the well-being of its [[OurMonstersAreDifferent Monsters]], {{Youkai}} and FairFolk is more important than the well-being of its humans, who are considered [[ClapYourHandsIfYouBelieve superstition-and-faith livestock]] ''at best'', to say nothing of the humans from ''outside'' Gensoukyou who are treated as ''regular'' livestock for the realm's many [[ToServeMan man-eaters]]. Further complicating matters is Yukari's own refusal to explain or justify her own actions, leaving other characters to shakily ''hope'' that she has Yukari, and in {{fanfic}}, also an omniscient morality license... That said, even if Yukari ''has'' a morality license, it's not written with black letters on white paper, but rather [[BlueAndOrangeMorality orange letters on blue paper.]]
** In {{fanfic}}s,
Eirin playing also plays this card whenever they are she's [[AWizardDidIt the instigators instigator of whatever plot]] is behind [[ConflictBall the reason for the battle royale today]].of the day]].
24th Aug '16 9:24:46 AM Sapphirea2
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** In Series 8, when faced with an important but non-fixed point in time in "Kill the Moon", rather than just making an informed choice (either kill or spare the moon creature) for humanity, he leaves it up to them and Clara in particular -- trusting and believing that she will make the choice he would and all will be well. While she ''does'' make that choice and everything ''is'' okay, she is furious with the Doctor for being condescending and cruel to her and humanity by abandoning them, and they are estranged for a time. It's more or less the flipside of the aforementioned "The Waters of Mars". He meant well with his non-interference in the fates of others and the audience knows he does ''not'' see humans as small, as she claims -- a speech he gives to the Half-Face Man in "Deep Breath" says as much, but she wasn't there for that -- but NoSocialSkills and Clara having come to expect him to save the day for others all the time (having traveled extensively with Eleven and also met Ten and War) means he is horribly misunderstood.
** In the SeasonFinale "Death in Heaven", the success of Missy's evil plot hinges on convincing the Doctor to seize his OML by [[spoiler: taking command of a Cyberman army and using it to do his bidding across the universe]]. He rejects her "gift".
** In Series 9 he becomes increasingly frustrated with having to hold back from using his full abilities for the sake of time and space's stability, owing to all the losses he experiences as a result. After he is chewed out over letting someone die to confirm what the villain's plan is in "Before the Flood" (and then trying to break his own rules to save Clara, whom he is in love with by this point), in a moment of grief in the next episode "The Girl Who Died", he defies the fates and saves the sweet titular girl from death's door in a way that also makes her immortal. He almost immediately regrets it when his high emotions have passed, and it comes back to haunt him terribly. In the 3-part SeasonFinale, when Clara [[spoiler: is Killed Off For Real]] and he is forced to undergo ColdBloodedTorture immediately afterwards, the resultant SanitySlippage leads to him temporarily becoming an insane WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds who's ''sure'' he won't destroy the universe by [[spoiler: saving her from her fixed-point death]]...

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** *** In Series 8, when faced with an important but non-fixed point in time in "Kill the Moon", rather than just making an informed choice (either kill or spare the moon creature) for humanity, he leaves it up to them and Clara in particular -- trusting and believing that she will make the choice he would and all will be well. While she ''does'' make that choice and everything ''is'' okay, she is furious with the Doctor for being condescending and cruel to her and humanity by abandoning them, and they are estranged for a time. It's more or less the flipside of the aforementioned "The Waters of Mars". He meant well with his non-interference in the fates of others and the audience knows he does ''not'' see humans as small, as she claims -- a speech he gives to the Half-Face Man in "Deep Breath" says as much, but she wasn't there for that -- but NoSocialSkills and Clara having come to expect him to save the day for others all the time (having traveled extensively with Eleven and also met Ten and War) means he is horribly misunderstood.
** *** In the SeasonFinale "Death in Heaven", the success of Missy's evil plot hinges on convincing the Doctor to seize his OML by [[spoiler: taking command of a Cyberman army and using it to do his bidding across the universe]]. He rejects her "gift".
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"gift" and instead [[spoiler: lets one of the Cybermen -- Clara's late boyfriend, who has resisted cyber-control -- make the choice over what will become of them]].
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In Series 9 he becomes increasingly frustrated with having to hold back from using his full abilities for the sake of time and space's stability, owing to all the losses he experiences as a result. After In "Before the Flood", he is chewed out over letting someone die to confirm what the villain's plan is in "Before the Flood" (and then trying is, and later tries to break his own rules to save Clara, whom he is in love with by this point), in point. In a moment of grief in the next episode "The Girl Who Died", he defies the fates and saves the sweet titular girl from death's door in a way that also makes her immortal. He almost immediately regrets it when his high emotions have passed, and it comes back to haunt him terribly. In the 3-part SeasonFinale, when Clara [[spoiler: is Killed Off For Real]] and he is forced to undergo ColdBloodedTorture immediately afterwards, the resultant SanitySlippage leads to him temporarily becoming an insane WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds who's ''sure'' he won't destroy the universe by [[spoiler: saving her from her fixed-point death]]...
24th Aug '16 9:19:45 AM Sapphirea2
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** The Twelfth Doctor, a PragmaticHero, has his own problems; he doesn't ''like'' manipulating others for the sake of saving the day, and he knows he doesn't have an OML -- but he has to do ''something'' to put a lid on the threat of the week. In Series 8, when faced with an important but non-fixed point in time in "Kill the Moon", rather than just making an informed choice (either kill or spare the moon creature) for humanity, he leaves it up to them and Clara in particular -- trusting and believing that she will make the choice he would and all will be well. While she ''does'' make that choice, she is furious with the Doctor for being condescending and cruel to her and humanity by abandoning them, and they are estranged for a time. Later, the success of Missy's evil plot hinges on convincing the Doctor to seize his OML by [[spoiler: taking command of a Cyberman army and using it to do his bidding across the universe]] -- he rejects her "gift". In Series 9 he becomes increasingly frustrated with having to hold back from using his full abilities for the sake of time and space's stability, owing to all the losses he experiences as a result. In a moment of grief he defies the fates and saves a young girl from death's door in a way that also makes her immortal; he almost immediately regrets it when his high emotions have passed, and it comes back to haunt him terribly. When Clara [[spoiler: is Killed Off For Real]], the resultant SanitySlippage leads to him temporarily becoming a WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds who's ''sure'' he won't destroy the universe by [[spoiler: saving her from her fixed-point death]]...

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** The Twelfth Doctor, a PragmaticHero, has his own problems; he problems which are treated as major flaws in-universe. Unlike Ten and Eleven, he's ''far'' more detached from others. He doesn't ''like'' manipulating others for the sake of saving the day, and he knows he doesn't have an OML -- but he has to do ''something'' to put a lid on the threat of the week. week.
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In Series 8, when faced with an important but non-fixed point in time in "Kill the Moon", rather than just making an informed choice (either kill or spare the moon creature) for humanity, he leaves it up to them and Clara in particular -- trusting and believing that she will make the choice he would and all will be well. While she ''does'' make that choice, choice and everything ''is'' okay, she is furious with the Doctor for being condescending and cruel to her and humanity by abandoning them, and they are estranged for a time. Later, time. It's more or less the flipside of the aforementioned "The Waters of Mars". He meant well with his non-interference in the fates of others and the audience knows he does ''not'' see humans as small, as she claims -- a speech he gives to the Half-Face Man in "Deep Breath" says as much, but she wasn't there for that -- but NoSocialSkills and Clara having come to expect him to save the day for others all the time (having traveled extensively with Eleven and also met Ten and War) means he is horribly misunderstood.
** In the SeasonFinale "Death in Heaven",
the success of Missy's evil plot hinges on convincing the Doctor to seize his OML by [[spoiler: taking command of a Cyberman army and using it to do his bidding across the universe]] -- he universe]]. He rejects her "gift". "gift".
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In Series 9 he becomes increasingly frustrated with having to hold back from using his full abilities for the sake of time and space's stability, owing to all the losses he experiences as a result. In result. After he is chewed out over letting someone die to confirm what the villain's plan is in "Before the Flood" (and then trying to break his own rules to save Clara, whom he is in love with by this point), in a moment of grief in the next episode "The Girl Who Died", he defies the fates and saves a young the sweet titular girl from death's door in a way that also makes her immortal; he immortal. He almost immediately regrets it when his high emotions have passed, and it comes back to haunt him terribly. When terribly. In the 3-part SeasonFinale, when Clara [[spoiler: is Killed Off For Real]], Real]] and he is forced to undergo ColdBloodedTorture immediately afterwards, the resultant SanitySlippage leads to him temporarily becoming a an insane WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds who's ''sure'' he won't destroy the universe by [[spoiler: saving her from her fixed-point death]]...
23rd Aug '16 10:45:34 AM Discar
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** The Diagram, a plan written by [[spoiler:King Taravangian of Kharbranth]] on one of the days when his randomly fluctuating intelligence was at nigh-omniscient levels. The precise plan hasn't been revealed, but it involves predicting events all over the world leading up to the inevitable [[TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt Desolation]], and finding a way for humanity to survive it. It starts with assassinating every other ruler in the world, and gets darker from there. One of the minor side plots of the organization involves slowly killing hundreds of people a day in hopes of collecting the [[PsychicDreamsForEveryone Death Rattles]] and discovering more about what is coming. Even with these patches, holes and flaws are still appearing, and the plan is falling farther and farther off the rails. It should be noted that the Diagram staunchly opposes the heroes (long before the heroes even knows the organization exists), because they are working to refound the Knights Radiant, ten orders bound firmly to HonorBeforeReason, who would never allow this plan to move ahead.

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** The Diagram, a plan written by [[spoiler:King Taravangian of Kharbranth]] on one of the days when his randomly fluctuating intelligence was at nigh-omniscient levels. The precise plan hasn't been revealed, but it involves predicting events all over the world leading up to the inevitable [[TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt Desolation]], and finding a way for humanity to survive it. It starts with assassinating every other ruler in the world, and gets darker from there. One of the minor side plots of the organization involves slowly killing hundreds of people a day in hopes of collecting the [[PsychicDreamsForEveryone Death Rattles]] and discovering more about what is coming. Even with these patches, holes and flaws are still appearing, and the plan is falling farther and farther off the rails. It should be noted that the Diagram staunchly opposes the heroes (long before the heroes even knows know the organization exists), because they are working to refound the Knights Radiant, ten orders bound firmly to HonorBeforeReason, who would never allow this plan to move ahead.
10th Jul '16 2:57:23 PM pinkdalek
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** The Time Lords often come across as this before their reinvention as a DeadlyDecadentCourt. For example, in "The Mutants", they give the Doctor a container to deliver, but they won't tell him what's in the container, or who's supposed to receive it, and then dump him and his assistant Jo on a planet at war and with an atmosphere toxic to humans. In "Terror of the Autons", a Time Lord in human clothing appears to inform the Doctor that the Master is active on Earth and encourage him to fight back, but provides absolutely no useful information other than this.

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** The Time Lords often come across as this before their reinvention as a DeadlyDecadentCourt. For example, in "The Mutants", they give the Doctor a container to deliver, but they won't tell him what's in the container, or who's supposed to receive it, and then dump him and his assistant Jo on a planet at war and with an atmosphere toxic to humans. In "Terror of the Autons", a Time Lord in human clothing appears to inform the Doctor that the Master is active on Earth and encourage him to fight back, but provides absolutely no useful information other than this. They send the Doctor to revive the Sacred Flame on Karn in "The Brain of Morbius", but this is only implied by the fact that they dump him on Karn at all (notably, when Maren becomes convinced the Doctor's a Time Lord spy, he agrees he might be, as far as he knows).
10th Jul '16 2:54:48 PM pinkdalek
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** The Fourth Doctor did a lot of dodgy, risky things for the greater good that were treated by the plot as fun and lovely because the Doctor is a genius and knew it would all be alright - like possessing Sarah Jane, bullying Leela and making people who trusted him think he'd gone AxCrazy. A lot of what the series later did with the Tenth Doctor is a deconstruction of the morality of this tenure.

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** The Time Lords often come across as this before their reinvention as a DeadlyDecadentCourt. For example, in "The Mutants", they give the Doctor a container to deliver, but they won't tell him what's in the container, or who's supposed to receive it, and then dump him and his assistant Jo on a planet at war and with an atmosphere toxic to humans. In "Terror of the Autons", a Time Lord in human clothing appears to inform the Doctor that the Master is active on Earth and encourage him to fight back, but provides absolutely no useful information other than this.
** The Fourth Doctor did a lot of dodgy, risky things for the greater good that were treated by the plot as fun and lovely because the Doctor is a genius and knew it would all be alright - like possessing manipulating Sarah Jane, bullying Leela and making people who trusted him think he'd gone AxCrazy. A lot of what the series later did with the Tenth Doctor is a deconstruction of the morality of this tenure.
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