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13th Mar '17 6:55:55 PM Scabbard
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* The Great Dragon in ''Series/{{Merlin}}'' has advised/ordered Merlin to do some ''incredibly'' dodgy stuff, including letting a child die and poisoning a terrified woman. Sometimes he obeys, sometimes he doesn't -- but either way it usually it turns out bad for Merlin.

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* The Great Dragon in ''Series/{{Merlin}}'' has advised/ordered Merlin to do some ''incredibly'' dodgy stuff, including letting a child die and poisoning a terrified woman. Sometimes he obeys, sometimes he doesn't -- but either way it usually it turns out bad for Merlin.
7th Mar '17 10:13:40 AM marcoasalazarm
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** Reed Richards exemplifies the trope again during the ''ComicBook/CivilWar'' with a sort of Marvel universe variant on the central concept of Creator/IsaacAsimov's Foundation series', the fictional mathematical science of [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychohistory_(fictional) psychohistory]] (wherein one can, with enough time and mathematical expertise, predict the generalized "future history" of mankind through mathematical formulae). [[spoiler:Using his new mathematical science, Reed Richards discovers that if the new SuperhumanRegistrationAct, which would require all superhumans to register their identities with the government regardless if they rely on the identities' secrecy for their own or loved ones' safety, doesn't pass and come into law the resulting fallout would lead to the deaths of "billions". This discovery is what prompts Reed's decision to support the act.]]

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** Reed Richards exemplifies the trope again during the ''ComicBook/CivilWar'' with a sort of Marvel universe variant on the central concept of Creator/IsaacAsimov's Foundation series', the fictional mathematical science of [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychohistory_(fictional) psychohistory]] (wherein one can, with enough time and mathematical expertise, predict the generalized "future history" of mankind through mathematical formulae). [[spoiler:Using his new mathematical science, Reed Richards discovers that if the new SuperhumanRegistrationAct, which would require all superhumans to register their identities with the government regardless if they rely on the identities' secrecy for their own or loved ones' safety, doesn't pass and come into law the resulting fallout would lead to the deaths of "billions". This discovery is what prompts Reed's decision to support the act.]]]] A couple of supplementary stories have people telling Reed point-blank that human nature is the biggest SpannerInTheWorks of any possible psychohistorical theory and he needs to take more heed on that detail, [[spoiler:but not only does Reed not cares about this (even when his wife leaves him because she's fed up with his attitude) because as far as he knows the math checks ok, but a couple of arcs later on provide glimpses of worlds where the SHRA passed (and is still working) without ''any'' issues--and the factor that made such a thing happen was that Reed worked on the SHRA ''all by himself'' (the 616 version conspired alongside Tony Stark and Hank Pym).]]
26th Feb '17 8:10:27 PM rjd1922
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* Explicitly referenced and refuted in TheLegendOfZeldaSkywardSword. The goddess Hylia set up all of the dangers that Link encountered in order to temper him into a weapon against evil. At the end of the game, she, as [[spoiler: Zelda, her human incarnation]], apologizes to Link. Explicitly saying that her actions were necessary, but that didn't make them right, and asks his forgiveness.

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* Explicitly referenced and refuted in TheLegendOfZeldaSkywardSword.''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaSkywardSword''. The goddess Hylia set up all of the dangers that Link encountered in order to temper him into a weapon against evil. At the end of the game, she, as [[spoiler: Zelda, her human incarnation]], apologizes to Link. Explicitly saying that her actions were necessary, but that didn't make them right, and asks his forgiveness.
22nd Feb '17 11:25:35 PM intastiel
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* Played with in ''Webcomic/QuestionableContent'' by "Spooky Bot", an incredibly powerful AI strongly implied to be a product of TheSingularity. Their stated motivations are quite straightforward, but they also [[http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3402 admit]] that "there are no credentials of benevolence that we could not falsify" and tacitly ask Faye to have faith in their good intentions.
20th Feb '17 5:47:18 PM Prometheus117
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* Akihito Kayaba from ''SwordArtOnline'' experiments on a perfect virtual reality by trapping 10,000 people in a place where [[FinalDeath if they killed in-geme, they also die in real life]]; and then he [[spoiler: [[KillerGameMaster actively disguises himself into a guild leader to lead them to their doom]]]] with an [[MotiveDecay implied]] hope that TheChosenOne would emerge and "break the system". Not only that he's EasilyForgiven for all his miserable deeds, but he returns at the season finale as a SpiritAdvisor. In the sequel, he is literary considered a respectful ''father of VRMMORPG'' by the main characters.

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* Akihito Akihiko Kayaba from ''SwordArtOnline'' experiments on a perfect virtual reality by trapping 10,000 people in a place where [[FinalDeath if they killed in-geme, they also die in real life]]; and then he [[spoiler: [[KillerGameMaster actively disguises himself into a guild leader to lead them to their doom]]]] with an [[MotiveDecay implied]] hope that TheChosenOne would emerge and "break the system". Not only that he's EasilyForgiven for all his miserable deeds, but he returns at the season finale as a SpiritAdvisor. In the sequel, he is literary considered a respectful ''father of VRMMORPG'' by the main characters. Granted, it helps that he was never really [[CardCarryingVillain an asshole about it]], helped them out at several points, and often came across as the LesserOfTwoEvils when facing off against the newest BigBad.
10th Feb '17 1:24:46 PM WanderingBrowser
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* In the ''TabletopGame/{{Planescape}}'' campaign, the Athar are a group who actually call the PowersThatBe out for this Trope, calling them liars who use their power to call themselves gods, something they claim is untrue. They do, however, recognize their unfathomable power, but because the Powers depend on mortal worship to maintain their might, their (incredibly long-term) goal is to convince mortals of fraudulent divinity while encouraging the belief that mortals can shape their own destiny. Well, ''most' of them do. The group has a ''few'' "extremists" who [[SoapBoxSadie don't endear themselves to others]], [[StrawNihilist have questionable motives]] or [[RageAgainstTheHeavens try to take things too far...]]

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* In the ''TabletopGame/{{Planescape}}'' campaign, the Athar are a group who actually call the PowersThatBe out for this Trope, calling them liars who use their power to call themselves gods, something they claim is untrue. They do, however, recognize their unfathomable power, but because the Powers depend on mortal worship to maintain their might, their (incredibly long-term) goal is to convince mortals of fraudulent divinity while encouraging the belief that mortals can shape their own destiny. Well, ''most' ''most'' of them do. The group has a ''few'' "extremists" who [[SoapBoxSadie don't endear themselves to others]], [[StrawNihilist have questionable motives]] or [[RageAgainstTheHeavens try to take things too far...]]



* In the "Atlas of Earth-Prime: Mexico" sourcebook for ''TabletopGame/MutantsAndMasterminds'' 3rd edition, we're introduced to Tlacaelel, a Mexica noble from when the Aztec empire was first founded, who was granted immortality and immense magical powers when he subdued and absorbed the manifest Spirit of the Mexica Nation. Doing so granted him the apparent understanding that Mexica's glory would only survive if it was spiritually split; by keeping the nation locked in eternal turmoil, that greater conflict would swallow up and negate any external influences on Mexica's soul. To this end, he has been directly responsible for many of the tragedies to befall Mexico, from the massacres and near-genocide of the Spanish conquistadors (to forge a stronger nation from the once-disparate tribes under Spanish influence), the nation's loss in the American-Mexican War (to shed nations tainted by slavery and shield Mexico from the Mayombe cult), and culminating in directly supporting the modern era's prevalent drug wars. His current ploy boils down to supporting various criminal and super-criminal groups, whilst secretly leaking key information to heroic factions, ensuring perpetual war between both. However, the trope is zigzagged in that it's noted that Tlacaelel's taking of the Spirit by force meant he only got ''half'' of the Spirit; the Serpent, embodiment of the material world, and the Eagle is still out there. It's subtly implied that this actually gave him a faulty vision and he's been in the wrong all along despite thinking of himself as the BigGood.

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* In the "Atlas of Earth-Prime: Mexico" sourcebook for ''TabletopGame/MutantsAndMasterminds'' 3rd edition, we're introduced to Tlacaelel, a Mexica noble from when the Aztec empire was first founded, who was granted immortality and immense magical powers when he subdued and absorbed the manifest Spirit of the Mexica Nation. Doing so granted him the apparent understanding that Mexica's glory would only survive if it was spiritually split; by keeping the nation locked in eternal turmoil, that greater conflict would swallow up and negate any external influences on Mexica's soul. To this end, he has been directly responsible for many of the tragedies to befall Mexico, from the massacres and near-genocide of the Spanish conquistadors (to forge a stronger nation from the once-disparate tribes under Spanish influence), the nation's loss in the American-Mexican War (to shed nations tainted by slavery and shield Mexico from the Mayombe cult), and culminating in directly supporting the modern era's prevalent drug wars. His current ploy boils down to supporting various criminal and super-criminal groups, whilst secretly leaking key information to heroic factions, ensuring perpetual war between both. However, the trope is zigzagged in that it's noted that Tlacaelel's taking of the Spirit by force meant he only got ''half'' of the Spirit; the Serpent, embodiment of the material world, and the Eagle is still out there. It's subtly implied that this actually gave him a faulty vision and he's been in the wrong all along despite thinking of himself as the BigGood.BigGood... but, for the most part, the booklet falls firmly on the side of "he's been doing the right thing, or at least started out that way".
10th Feb '17 12:50:51 PM WanderingBrowser
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May overlap with TheExtremistWasRight where the actions genuinely work out for the good of most/all. Compare to InMysteriousWays where the acts tend to be a lot more low key and often not unethical of themselves. Also compare with BlindObedience. Contrast GodIsGood, when the supreme being is genuinely benevolent. Related to DesignatedHero.

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May overlap with TheExtremistWasRight where the actions genuinely work out for the good of most/all. Compare to InMysteriousWays where the acts tend to be a lot more low key and often not unethical of themselves. Also compare with BlindObedience. Contrast GodIsGood, when the supreme being is genuinely benevolent. Related to DesignatedHero.
DesignatedHero. Can sometimes stray into UnfortunateImplications territory.



** The Spectre once went completely overboard with his License during a period of time when he wasn't bound to a host. Under Eclipso's influence, he slaughtered most of the DC verse's magical community. The Voice finally had enough of these antics when The Spectre murdered the last remaining Lord of Order Nabu and promptly revoked the Spectre's license and shoved him into a new mortal host. The Voice typically operates InMysteriousWays -- that it took direct action here highlights just how upset it was.

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** The Spectre once went completely overboard with his License during a period of time when he wasn't bound to a host. Under Eclipso's influence, he slaughtered most of the DC verse's magical community. The Voice finally had enough of these antics when The Spectre murdered the last remaining Lord of Order Nabu Order, Nabu, and promptly revoked the Spectre's license and shoved him into a new mortal host. The Voice typically operates InMysteriousWays -- that it took direct action here highlights just how upset it was.



* In the ''TabletopGame/{{Planescape}}'' campaign, the Athar are a group who actually call the PowersThatBe out for this Trope, calling them liars who use their power to call themselves gods, something they claim is untrue. They do, however, recognize their unfathomable power, but because the Powers depend on mortal worship to maintain their might, their (incredibly long-term) goal is to convince mortals of fraudulent divinity while encouraging the belief that mortals can shape their own destiny. (Well, most of them do. The group has a ''few'' [[SoapBoxSadie "extremists" who don't endear themselves to others]], [[StrawNihilist have questionable motives]] [[RageAgainstTheHeavens or try to take things too far...]]

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* In the ''TabletopGame/{{Planescape}}'' campaign, the Athar are a group who actually call the PowersThatBe out for this Trope, calling them liars who use their power to call themselves gods, something they claim is untrue. They do, however, recognize their unfathomable power, but because the Powers depend on mortal worship to maintain their might, their (incredibly long-term) goal is to convince mortals of fraudulent divinity while encouraging the belief that mortals can shape their own destiny. (Well, most Well, ''most' of them do. The group has a ''few'' [[SoapBoxSadie "extremists" who [[SoapBoxSadie don't endear themselves to others]], [[StrawNihilist have questionable motives]] or [[RageAgainstTheHeavens or try to take things too far...]]


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* In the "Atlas of Earth-Prime: Mexico" sourcebook for ''TabletopGame/MutantsAndMasterminds'' 3rd edition, we're introduced to Tlacaelel, a Mexica noble from when the Aztec empire was first founded, who was granted immortality and immense magical powers when he subdued and absorbed the manifest Spirit of the Mexica Nation. Doing so granted him the apparent understanding that Mexica's glory would only survive if it was spiritually split; by keeping the nation locked in eternal turmoil, that greater conflict would swallow up and negate any external influences on Mexica's soul. To this end, he has been directly responsible for many of the tragedies to befall Mexico, from the massacres and near-genocide of the Spanish conquistadors (to forge a stronger nation from the once-disparate tribes under Spanish influence), the nation's loss in the American-Mexican War (to shed nations tainted by slavery and shield Mexico from the Mayombe cult), and culminating in directly supporting the modern era's prevalent drug wars. His current ploy boils down to supporting various criminal and super-criminal groups, whilst secretly leaking key information to heroic factions, ensuring perpetual war between both. However, the trope is zigzagged in that it's noted that Tlacaelel's taking of the Spirit by force meant he only got ''half'' of the Spirit; the Serpent, embodiment of the material world, and the Eagle is still out there. It's subtly implied that this actually gave him a faulty vision and he's been in the wrong all along despite thinking of himself as the BigGood.
8th Jan '17 10:55:00 AM BenOfHouston
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* Explicitly referenced and refuted in TheLegendOfZeldaSkywardSword. The goddess Hylia set up all of the dangers that Link encountered in order to temper him into a weapon against evil. At the end of the game, she, as [[spoiler: Zelda, her human incarnation]], apologizes to Link. Explicitly saying that her actions were necessary, but that didn't make them right, and asks his forgiveness.
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