History Main / NotHelpingYourCase

14th May '18 3:27:15 PM ultimomant
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* ''WebAnimation/{{RWBY}}'': The White Fang began as a peaceful protest group, promoting equality for the [[LittleBitBeastly Faunus]], but a change of leadership five years prior to the series' beginning turned them into a [[WesternAnimation terrorist organization]] who use violence to promote their cause. Their actions have done nothing but cement humanity's prejudice against the Faunus, especially after the events of Volume 3, where Adam Taurus and his White Fang faction play an instrumental role in the invasion of Vale and the destruction of Beacon Academy. In "Dread in the Air," Sienna Khan, the organization's High Leader, even calls Adam out on it.

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* ''WebAnimation/{{RWBY}}'': The White Fang began as a peaceful protest group, promoting equality for the [[LittleBitBeastly Faunus]], but a change of leadership five years prior to the series' beginning turned them into a [[WesternAnimation terrorist organization]] organization who use violence to promote their cause. Their actions have done nothing but cement humanity's prejudice against the Faunus, especially after the events of Volume 3, where Adam Taurus and his White Fang faction play an instrumental role in the invasion of Vale and the destruction of Beacon Academy. In "Dread in the Air," Sienna Khan, the organization's High Leader, even calls Adam out on it.
8th May '18 8:25:27 PM LadyJafaria
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* In the ''Series/HorribleHistories'' song about the Suffragettes, one of them tries to draw attention to the cause by running out onto a race course during a race. When she's trampled by a horse, a member of Parliament reacts by saying "We can't let women vote if they're so stupid they'll do that!"
29th Apr '18 12:21:51 PM StarSword
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* ''Anime/DarlingInTheFranxx'': Hiro in episode 8 trying to console the girls, embarrassed at ClothingDamage to themselves, by quoting one of Zero Two's lines to him in an earlier episode that a pilot is "better off being a little pervy". (The series' {{Super Robot}}s basically run on ThePowerOfLove.)
22nd Apr '18 12:39:06 AM ImpudentInfidel
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* Throughout ''VideoGame/DragonAgeOrigins'', Loghain insists that he didn't deliberately betray King Cailan at the battle of Ostagar, and that his withdrawal was the only sound tactical choice. The fandom continues to dispute whether or not this is true. However, two of the prisoners LockedInTheDungeon and tortured in his close ally's estate are a soldier who survived Ostagar and the friend of another (missing, likely dead) survivor who claimed Loghain retreated while there was still hope for the king. This revelation works against him at the Landsmeet, especially since the latter was a member of the nobility. Even if he ''didn't'' betray Cailan, suppression of the witnesses tends to suggest otherwise. Which leads to even more fandom dispute as to [[AlternateCharacterInterpretation whether Loghain knew what his ally was doing in that regard]]...

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* Throughout ''VideoGame/DragonAgeOrigins'', Loghain insists that he didn't deliberately betray King Cailan at the battle of Ostagar, and that his withdrawal was the only sound tactical choice. The fandom continues to dispute whether or not this is true.true[[note]]On the one hand he had repeatedly tried to convince the king not to be on the front line for this very reason and the tactical situation really had gone to hell; on the other he had numerous personal and political reasons to prevent the king's survival, and even at the most pessimistic view of the situation his withdrawal made the difference between a defeat and a massacre.[[/note]]. However, two of the prisoners LockedInTheDungeon and tortured in his close ally's estate are a soldier who survived Ostagar and the friend of another (missing, likely dead) survivor who claimed Loghain retreated while there was still hope for the king. This revelation works against him at the Landsmeet, especially since the latter was a member of the nobility. Even if he ''didn't'' betray Cailan, suppression of the witnesses tends to suggest otherwise.otherwise (his cover story was that the Wardens betrayed the king by leading him into a hopeless charge, which is definitely a lie). Which leads to even more fandom dispute as to [[AlternateCharacterInterpretation whether Loghain knew what his ally was doing in that regard]]...
20th Apr '18 8:46:48 PM mlsmithca
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* "Komm wieder her" by ''Music/{{Knorkator}}'' is a song about a man begging his wife to return to him. By telling her how much he needs her, he's really not helping his case.
-->''My fridge is empty, I have no clean socks. Nobody goes shopping for groceries or sweeps the floor. Who pays attention to me, and endures me.\\
Who would make me coffee in the morning? Who would lock the door when I leave the house? Who would clean the windows and the shoes? Who would take the garbage out? Who, if not you?''

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* "Komm wieder her" by ''Music/{{Knorkator}}'' Music/{{Knorkator}} is a song about a man begging his wife to return to him. By telling her how much he needs her, he's really not helping his case.
-->''My -->My fridge is empty, I have no clean socks. Nobody goes shopping for groceries or sweeps the floor. Who pays attention to me, and endures me.\\
Who would make me coffee in the morning? Who would lock the door when I leave the house? Who would clean the windows and the shoes? Who would take the garbage out? Who, if not you?''you?
5th Apr '18 6:50:26 PM Andyroid
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* In ''WesternAnimation/{{Robots}}'': Bigweld fires Ratchet who hysterically begs for mercy claiming:

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* In ''WesternAnimation/{{Robots}}'': Bigweld fires Ratchet Ratchet, who hysterically begs for mercy claiming:



* Elsa in ''Disney/{{Frozen}}'' is shown to care for the well-being for the others to the point that she is willing to exile herself for their safety. Unfortunately, the way she acts just makes her look like a witch who doesn't actually care for them and willing to abandon them to their fate. For example, her action to abandon her kingdom does have good intentions (to avoid harming them with her powers) but to the people in Arendelle, she just comes across as someone who avoids the responsibility of being a queen and abandons them to an EndlessWinter that she caused. Also while she does love her sister Anna, the way she acted towards her gives the latter the impression that her sister wants nothing to do with her given the fact that once she meets with her in the Ice Castle, she struck her in the heart to die a slow and painful death and summons a giant ice monster that nearly kills her. It's honestly a miracle that the people and Anna are still willing to support her after everything she had done.



** In "The Tale of Two Stans", Stanley is called by his brother Ford after 10 years of absence only for the latter to call just to do a menial task and still considers him as nothing more than a screw up. While he has every right to be angry at Ford for this, the way he ranted to him just makes him look like a selfish jerk who hates his brother for no reason. This ended up escalating the fight to that ultimately results in Ford being trapped in the portal to another dimension.
3rd Apr '18 7:31:16 PM Loekman3
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* Elsa in ''Disney/{{Frozen}}'' is shown to care for the well-being for the others to the point that she is willing to exile herself for their safety. Unfortunately, the way she acts just makes her look like a witch who doesn't actually care for them and willing to abandon them to their fate. For example, her action to abandon her kingdom does have good intentions (to avoid harming them with her powers) but to the people in Arendelle, she just comes across as someone who avoids the responsibility of being a queen and abandons them to an EndlessWinter that she caused. Also while she does love her sister Anna, the way she acted towards her gives the latter the impression that her sister wants nothing to do with her given the fact that once she meets with her in the Ice Castle, she struck her in the heart to die a slow and painful death and summons a giant ice monster that nearly kills her. It's honestly a miracle that the people and Anna are still willing to support her after everything she had done.


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** In "The Tale of Two Stans", Stanley is called by his brother Ford after 10 years of absence only for the latter to call just to do a menial task and still considers him as nothing more than a screw up. While he has every right to be angry at Ford for this, the way he ranted to him just makes him look like a selfish jerk who hates his brother for no reason. This ended up escalating the fight to that ultimately results in Ford being trapped in the portal to another dimension.
6th Mar '18 1:19:31 PM darkemyst
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* In ''Webcomic/GirlGenius'' Tarvek denies having any part in the plan to usurp the Wulfenbachs by installing a fake Heterodyne — ''his'' plan was orders of magnitude better!
3rd Mar '18 4:10:14 PM Andyroid
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** Mabel is having a hard time taking Dipper possessing his sock puppet self (long story) seriously because of how silly he looks when mad, at which point Dipper pulls off the a perfect angry [[Franchise/TheMuppets Kermit]] face while comically growling in frustration.
** In another episode Blendin Blandin tries to point out that it was Dipper and Mabel causing all the chaos he's been blamed for, he calls Waddles the pig their leader. Lolph and Dundgren are less than impressed.

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** Mabel is having a hard time taking Dipper possessing his sock puppet self (long story) seriously because of how silly he looks when mad, at which point Dipper pulls off the a perfect angry [[Franchise/TheMuppets Kermit]] face while comically growling in frustration.
** In another episode "The Time Traveler's Pig", Blendin Blandin tries to point out that it was Dipper and Mabel causing all the chaos he's been blamed for, he calls Waddles the pig their leader. Lolph and Dundgren are less than impressed.impressed.
** In "Sock Opera" Dipper's been forced to possess a puppet after his body has been hijacked by Bill Cipher. Mabel admits she's having a hard time taking him seriously because of how silly he looks when mad, at which point Dipper pulls off the a perfect angry [[Franchise/TheMuppets Kermit]] face while comically growling in frustration.
27th Feb '18 9:24:09 PM FordPrefect
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* Creator/PiersAnthony was once asked about the sexual content in his books, which some people thought had highly creepy tones of ephebophilia or pedophilia. After some musings on biological and societal pressures that didn't do a lot to help his case either, he ended with, “But about membership in an anti-pedophelia organization—I do oppose pedophilia, but don’t belong to any such outfit. In fact I correspond with some pedophiles in prison.” Yeah most people, um, don't do that. And even fewer would apparently feel no need to provide further explanation on that front.
* Lawyers berated an editorial by Isaac Asimov in which he said they were the only high-powered profession that [[EverybodyHatesMathematics doesn't involve math]] (as opposed to engineers, doctors, etc). The lawyers said that they absolutely do have to calculate billable hours, figure taxes, and perform other examples of comparatively simple arithmetic, to which Asimov replied "I rest my case."

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* Creator/PiersAnthony was once asked about the sexual content in his books, which some people thought had highly creepy tones of ephebophilia or pedophilia. After some musings on biological and societal pressures that didn't do a lot to help his case either, he ended with, “But about membership in an anti-pedophelia anti-pedophilia organization—I do oppose pedophilia, but don’t belong to any such outfit. In fact I correspond with some pedophiles in prison.” Yeah Yeah, most people, um, don't do that. And even fewer would apparently feel no need to provide further explanation on that front.
* Lawyers berated an editorial by Isaac Asimov Creator/IsaacAsimov in which he said they were the only high-powered profession that [[EverybodyHatesMathematics doesn't involve math]] (as opposed to engineers, doctors, etc). The lawyers said that they absolutely do have to calculate billable hours, figure taxes, and perform other examples of comparatively simple arithmetic, to which Asimov replied "I rest my case."
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