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13th May '17 10:02:57 PM mlsmithca
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** ''NotHelpingYourCase/CaptainAmericaCivilWar''
9th May '17 9:59:25 PM rjd1922
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For added ironic flavor, the newly-criminal character may be busted just as the others come around and start to believe their original claim--giving the [[JadeColoredGlasses cynic]] of the group something to [[DeadpanSnarker snark]] about--''"Well, I guess you're right ,chumps, they really'' aren't ''a thief... they're just a'' [[GraveRobbing graverobber]].''"''

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For added ironic flavor, the newly-criminal character may be busted just as the others come around and start to believe their original claim--giving the [[JadeColoredGlasses cynic]] of the group something to [[DeadpanSnarker snark]] about--''"Well, I guess you're right ,chumps, right, chumps, they really'' aren't ''a thief... they're just a'' [[GraveRobbing graverobber]].''"''
9th May '17 9:57:39 PM rjd1922
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* The infamous antics of the British protest group [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fathers_4_Justice "Fathers 4 Justice,"]] who felt that parental access rights are unfairly biased towards the mother under British divorce laws. They might or might not have a point, [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment but that is not a debate for this wiki]]. What is ''not'' up for debate is that when the general thrust of your argument is, "we can ''too'' be trusted to look after young children", participating in what can only be described as wacky hijinks involving [[NoodleImplements hilariously cheap superhero costumes, flour-filled condoms and various national monuments]] ([[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fathers_4_Justice_protests details]]) to make your point is definitely counter-productive.

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* The infamous antics of the British protest group [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fathers_4_Justice "Fathers 4 Justice,"]] who felt that parental access rights are unfairly biased towards the mother under British divorce laws. They might or might not have a point, [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment but that is not a debate for this wiki]]. What is ''not'' up for debate is that when the general thrust of your argument is, "we can ''too'' be trusted to look after young children", participating in what can only be described as wacky hijinks involving [[NoodleImplements hilariously cheap superhero costumes, flour-filled condoms and various national monuments]] ([[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fathers_4_Justice_protests details]]) to make your point is definitely counter-productive.
23rd Apr '17 9:27:57 AM ultimomant
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* In ''Manga/MissKobayashisDragonMaid'', aspiring wizard Shouta attempts to summon a demon as a {{Familiar}}, but gets Lucoa, who agrees to be his familiar. Shouta thinks that she's a succubus. Lucoa tries to correct him that she's a dragon in human form, but he won't believe her because she keeps shamelessly wearing revealing clothes and trying to seduce him.
20th Apr '17 5:06:47 PM AthenaBlue
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* ''WesternAnimation/StarWarsRebels'': [[Recap/StarWarsRebelsS3E08AnInsideMan "An Inside Man"]] has two examples:
** [[MagnificentBastard Thrawn]] asks Lieutenant Lyste for his opinion of some graffiti left by Sabine of her phoenix symbol on a piece of the retaining wall. Lyste ignores the graffiti and flatly states it's a piece of the wall. Thrawn next asks Agent Kallus, who gives an informed and correct answer. [[FunnyBackgroundEvent Lyste clenches his fist in the background when he realizes he screwed up.]]
** The ReverseMole, [[spoiler:Kallus]], [[ComeWithMeIfYouWantToLive orders]] a [[DressingAsTheEnemy disguised]] Kanan and Ezra into a lift with him under the pretense of coming with him to check the perimeter. As soon as the elevator door closes, he says "Don't move, ''rebels''," in an ImpliedDeathThreat tone, which causes Kanan and Ezra to beat him up and pin him before he can explain he's on their side.

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* ''WesternAnimation/StarWarsRebels'': ''WesternAnimation/StarWarsRebels'':
** [[Recap/StarWarsRebelsS2E01TheLostCommanders "The Lost Commanders"]]: The ''Ghost'' crew is sent to recruit an old, experienced war veteran. When he turns out to be a clone, [[ThePurge Order 66]] survivor Kanan is automatically mistrustful of him and the other two clones he lives with. The fact that one of them, Wolffe, is TheParanoiac and sold out the crew to the Empire doesn't help matters.
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[[Recap/StarWarsRebelsS3E08AnInsideMan "An Inside Man"]] has two examples:
** *** [[MagnificentBastard Thrawn]] asks Lieutenant Lyste for his opinion of some graffiti left by Sabine of her phoenix symbol on a piece of the retaining wall. Lyste ignores the graffiti and flatly states it's a piece of the wall. Thrawn next asks Agent Kallus, who gives an informed and correct answer. [[FunnyBackgroundEvent Lyste clenches his fist in the background when he realizes he screwed up.]]
** *** The ReverseMole, [[spoiler:Kallus]], [[ComeWithMeIfYouWantToLive orders]] a [[DressingAsTheEnemy disguised]] Kanan and Ezra into a lift with him under the pretense of coming with him to check the perimeter. As soon as the elevator door closes, he says "Don't move, ''rebels''," in an ImpliedDeathThreat tone, which causes Kanan and Ezra to beat him up and pin him before he can explain he's on their side.
20th Apr '17 10:17:11 AM AthenaBlue
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* Leela in the ''WesternAnimation/{{Futurama}}'' episode "The Sting": "I'll find Fry's coffin, get his corpse, and keep it under my mattress to remind me that he's really dead. ''That'll'' prove I'm not insane!"
* ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'':
** In "Round Springfield", after Bart got appendicitis after swallowing a jagged metal piece inside a box of Krusty-Os, Krusty said at a press conference he would prove the metal O was safe by eating one personally, on live TV. Unfortunately for him, despite the fact that he actually ate a ''regular'' Krusty-O, he collapsed from horrible stomach pains after doing so.
** "Who Shot Mr. Burns: Part II" Homer, pointing a gun at Mr. Burns' head, in front of everyone: "Say I never shot you!... Before."
** In "Brother From Another Series" Sideshow Bob's brother Cecil tricks him into doing this in one of the few episodes where Bob actually is innocent.
** In "A Fish Called Selma," Troy [=McClure=], who spent the episode fighting back against the rumors that he has [[BestialityIsDepraved a deviant attraction to marine wildlife]], announces that he's going to celebrate his new movie deal by happily proclaiming that he's going to... Sea World.
* ''WesternAnimation/TheZetaProject'':
** Zee is accused of being re-programmed by a terrorist, and no matter what he does the FBI always make it out to be a crime. During most of the series, he is pursuing his creator so he can convince them that he's good, but his actions are taken as an assassination attempt when he accidentally set off the cryogenic chamber, almost killing him. The poor guy just can't win.
** When Agent Bennett tries to convince his superiors in the second season he hasn't [[JumpingOffTheSlipperySlope gone insane on this mission]], the fact one of his own Agents left the NSA over his behavior is pointed out. He counters he hasn't had a bad call on his record other than [[WesternAnimation/BatmanBeyond Gotham]], which is not a good incident to bring up since he nearly got part of the city blown up during that incident. [[IdiotHero Agent West]] facepalms audibly in the background.
** When Agent West is right about where Zeta is at one point, he points out the other times he found Zeta... which everyone knows were either accidents or Agent Lee doing the legwork.
** [[OnlySaneMan Agent Lee]] goes back and forth: initially she gets this when attempting to explain Zeta isn't evil, but she's GenreSavvy enough to try that exactly once and then turn to the much more provable and equally true objection to her superiors that Bennett is becoming unstable. When she feels it isn't taken seriously, she quits, an act extreme enough to prompt investigation into Bennett's behavior. But she's unable to get Zeta's case heard afterwards when she's viewed as a MoodSwinger who turned on her boss, and any response she has damages her case.
** Zeta's main character witness for the entire series is a runaway minor who has a criminal record. The show lives and breathes this trope.
* Project Cadmus in ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeague'' gets no respect or approval from the Justice League (other than Batman grudgingly admitting that they ''do'' have a legitimate point in how dangerous the League would be if it went rogue). This is because of three reasons. Firstly: they allow ''Lex FREAKING Luthor'' to have control over them for most of the series, meaning everyone GenreSavvy is confident they're being played like puppets in Lex's feud against Superman. Two: they seem more interested in ''goading'' the League into going off the rails, with incidents like sending agents to the Watchtower to steal an alien superweapon that the Legion impounded, than in legitimately opposing them should they genuinely go rogue. Three: everything they plan [[GoneHorriblyWrong completely fails to work]], meaning they actually ''produce'' more danger to the free world than the League does, what with things like trying to use a Kryptonite-fuelled nuclear missile on an inhabited island or creating insane superhumans.



* In SequelSeries ''WesternAnimation/TheLegendOfKorra:'' sheltered CountryMouse [[GodInHumanForm Avatar]] Korra tends to stumble into this.
** In "Welcome to Republic City" When she discovers and tries to argue against an [[MugglePower Equalist protestor]] decrying [[SupernaturalMartialArts benders]] as an oppressive establishment, he [[UnwittingPawn easily]] manipulates her [[ArrogantKungFuGuy confrontational attitude]] to make her look like the bad guy in front of a large audience of listeners.
** Later in the same episode, she's incredulous when police insist she be arrested for [[DestructiveSavior causing property damage]] during her well-meant CurbStompBattle of a trio of protection racket enforcers. Instead of coming along quietly to explain her presumption of HeroInsurance, she ''flees the police,'' fighting them as she bolts, forcing them to use an [[ZeppelinsFromAnotherWorld Airship]] to bring her in, which earns the enmity of [[DaChief their chief]].
** Matters worsen in "The Revelation" when, desperate to find a friend kidnapped by Equalists, she shakes down the same protester for information in public, smashing his megaphone, [[FlippingTheTable flipping his table]] and [[NeckLift hoisting him by the shirt]], and must again flee the police when the protester wails (quite rightly) that he's being oppressed.
** Played for laughs with Varrick when he tries to defend himself, stating that he's helped each of Team Avatar in his own way. He points out how he warned Korra of [[EvilUncle Unalaq]], made Bolin a film star, helped Asami rebuild her company and had Mako framed and thrown in prison. He takes a moment to realize that the last one was bad.
** And Zuko does it again at the beginning of the third season, as he's taking the elevator to visit a combustionbender's prison, reminiscing about the time he'd hired a combustionbender to kill the Avatar... in the company of Korra's cousins, who'd tried to kill her last season, and Korra's ''father.''

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* ** In SequelSeries ''WesternAnimation/TheLegendOfKorra:'' sheltered CountryMouse [[GodInHumanForm Avatar]] Korra tends to stumble into this.
** *** In "Welcome to Republic City" When she discovers and tries to argue against an [[MugglePower Equalist protestor]] decrying [[SupernaturalMartialArts benders]] as an oppressive establishment, he [[UnwittingPawn easily]] manipulates her [[ArrogantKungFuGuy confrontational attitude]] to make her look like the bad guy in front of a large audience of listeners.
** *** Later in the same episode, she's incredulous when police insist she be arrested for [[DestructiveSavior causing property damage]] during her well-meant CurbStompBattle of a trio of protection racket enforcers. Instead of coming along quietly to explain her presumption of HeroInsurance, she ''flees the police,'' fighting them as she bolts, forcing them to use an [[ZeppelinsFromAnotherWorld Airship]] to bring her in, which earns the enmity of [[DaChief their chief]].
** *** Matters worsen in "The Revelation" when, desperate to find a friend kidnapped by Equalists, she shakes down the same protester for information in public, smashing his megaphone, [[FlippingTheTable flipping his table]] and [[NeckLift hoisting him by the shirt]], and must again flee the police when the protester wails (quite rightly) that he's being oppressed.
** *** Played for laughs with Varrick when he tries to defend himself, stating that he's helped each of Team Avatar in his own way. He points out how he warned Korra of [[EvilUncle Unalaq]], made Bolin a film star, helped Asami rebuild her company and had Mako framed and thrown in prison. He takes a moment to realize that the last one was bad.
** *** And Zuko does it again at the beginning of the third season, as he's taking the elevator to visit a combustionbender's prison, reminiscing about the time he'd hired a combustionbender to kill the Avatar... in the company of Korra's cousins, who'd tried to kill her last season, and Korra's ''father.''''
* This pops up too often to list off with Dan from ''WesternAnimation/DanVs'', but at one point is notably inverted. Dan declares in court that it's not his fault he smashed through the wall of a church during a wedding because he was going to run over a nun who jaywalked. Of course, the judge misunderstands him and we get this exchange:
-->'''Judge:''' So you were swerving to ''avoid'' her?\\
'''Dan:''' Uhhhhh... yeah.
* In the ''WesternAnimation/DonaldDuck'' short "The Vanishing Private", Donald gets doused in experimental "invisible paint" and Pete, his sergeant, tries to track him down. Pete naturally does several things that make the General think Pete's lost his marbles, up to and including [[NapoleonDelusion wearing what looks like a bicorne hat]] while running around with an armload of grenades, ranting about "a little guy that you can't see".
* A bizarre example happened on ''WesternAnimation/DuckTales'' where Launchpad was trying to convince everyone in Duckberg ''not'' that he hadn't done a bad thing, but that he wasn't doing ''good'' things. After he was mistaken for Gizmoduck, things started to get out of hand, so he went on live TV to tell everyone he wasn't Gizmoduck; but accidentally said the command word for Felton's armor, while his mother, who was keeping it in her trailer, was watching the broadcast. After the armor flew all the way across town and affixed itself to Lauchpad in the middle of his denial, it kind of spoiled it. (Fortunately - or unfortunately, depending on your point of view - people realized he wasn't Gizmoduck after he wrecked half the city in a vain attempt to control the suit.)
* Leela in the ''WesternAnimation/{{Futurama}}'' episode "The Sting": "I'll find Fry's coffin, get his corpse, and keep it under my mattress to remind me that he's really dead. ''That'll'' prove I'm not insane!"
* ''WesternAnimation/GravityFalls'':
** Mabel is having a hard time taking Dipper possessing his sock puppet self (long story) seriously because of how silly he looks when mad, at which point Dipper pulls off the a perfect angry [[Franchise/TheMuppets Kermit]] face while comically growling in frustration.
** In another episode Blendin Blandin tries to point out that it was Dipper and Mabel causing all the chaos he's been blamed for, he calls Waddles the pig their leader. Lolph and Dundgren are less than impressed.
* ''WesternAnimation/InvaderZim'': When at one point offered to refute some rather convincing evidence Dib had collected on national television, Zim replied to a question of "are you an alien?" with "[[ThatLiarLies LIES! THE FILTHY EARTH BOY LIES!]]", before catching himself and adding "...I mean, 'no'."
* Project Cadmus in ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeague'' gets no respect or approval from the Justice League (other than Batman grudgingly admitting that they ''do'' have a legitimate point in how dangerous the League would be if it went rogue). This is because of three reasons. Firstly: they allow ''Lex FREAKING Luthor'' to have control over them for most of the series, meaning everyone GenreSavvy is confident they're being played like puppets in Lex's feud against Superman. Two: they seem more interested in ''goading'' the League into going off the rails, with incidents like sending agents to the Watchtower to steal an alien superweapon that the Legion impounded, than in legitimately opposing them should they genuinely go rogue. Three: everything they plan [[GoneHorriblyWrong completely fails to work]], meaning they actually ''produce'' more danger to the free world than the League does, what with things like trying to use a Kryptonite-fuelled nuclear missile on an inhabited island or creating insane superhumans.
* In the "Keeping Up with Our Joneses" episode of ''WesternAnimation/KingOfTheHill'' where Hank, Peggy and Bobby try to quit smoking, they go to a support group where everyone is shocked when Bobby reveals that he's been a smoker ever since his dad let him smoke a whole carton. Hank then claims that he didn't let Bobby smoke the carton, he ''made'' him [[RadishCure as a punishment]].



* ''WesternAnimation/InvaderZim'': When at one point offered to refute some rather convincing evidence Dib had collected on national television, Zim replied to a question of "are you an alien?" with "[[ThatLiarLies LIES! THE FILTHY EARTH BOY LIES!]]", before catching himself and adding "...I mean, 'no'."
* In the ''WesternAnimation/ElTigre'' pilot, Rodolfo is about to leave on a business trip and instructs Manny to be on his best behaviour. Manny assures that he will, jokingly asking, "What do you think I'm gonna do, rob a bank?" and his chuckles quickly snowball into a full-scale evil laugh.
* ''WesternAnimation/GravityFalls'':
** Mabel is having a hard time taking Dipper possessing his sock puppet self (long story) seriously because of how silly he looks when mad, at which point Dipper pulls off the a perfect angry [[Franchise/TheMuppets Kermit]] face while comically growling in frustration.
** In another episode Blendin Blandin tries to point out that it was Dipper and Mabel causing all the chaos he's been blamed for, he calls Waddles the pig their leader. Lolph and Dundgren are less than impressed.
* A bizarre example happened on ''WesternAnimation/DuckTales'' where Launchpad was trying to convince everyone in Duckberg ''not'' that he hadn't done a bad thing, but that he wasn't doing ''good'' things. After he was mistaken for Gizmoduck, things started to get out of hand, so he went on live TV to tell everyone he wasn't Gizmoduck; but accidentally said the command word for Felton's armor, while his mother, who was keeping it in her trailer, was watching the broadcast. After the armor flew all the way across town and affixed itself to Lauchpad in the middle of his denial, it kind of spoiled it. (Fortunately - or unfortunately, depending on your point of view - people realized he wasn't Gizmoduck after he wrecked half the city in a vain attempt to control the suit.)
* This pops up too often to list off with Dan from ''WesternAnimation/DanVs'', but at one point is notably inverted. Dan declares in court that it's not his fault he smashed through the wall of a church during a wedding because he was going to run over a nun who jaywalked. Of course, the judge misunderstands him and we get this exchange:
-->'''Judge:''' So you were swerving to ''avoid'' her?\\
'''Dan:''' Uhhhhh... yeah.

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* ''WesternAnimation/InvaderZim'': When at one point offered to refute some rather convincing evidence Dib had collected In ''WesternAnimation/TheNewMrPeabodyAndShermanShow'', singer Enrico Caruso is put on national television, Zim replied to a question of "are you an alien?" trial for causing the Great San Fransisco Earthquake with "[[ThatLiarLies LIES! THE FILTHY EARTH BOY LIES!]]", before catching himself his voice and adding "...I mean, 'no'."
* In
Mr. Peabody tries to scientifically prove that this couldn't possibly be the ''WesternAnimation/ElTigre'' pilot, Rodolfo is about to leave case, but the fiercely competitive Caruso takes hitting 10 on a business trip and instructs Manny the scale to be on his best behaviour. Manny assures that he will, jokingly asking, "What do you think a challenge.
-->'''Mr. Peabody:''' Enrico,
I'm gonna do, rob a bank?" and his chuckles quickly snowball into a full-scale evil laugh.
* ''WesternAnimation/GravityFalls'':
** Mabel is having a hard time taking Dipper possessing his sock puppet self (long story) seriously because of how silly he looks when mad, at which point Dipper pulls off the a perfect angry [[Franchise/TheMuppets Kermit]] face while comically growling in frustration.
** In another episode Blendin Blandin tries to point out that it was Dipper and Mabel causing all the chaos he's been blamed for, he calls Waddles the pig their leader. Lolph and Dundgren are less than impressed.
* A bizarre example happened on ''WesternAnimation/DuckTales'' where Launchpad was
trying to convince everyone in Duckberg ''not'' that he hadn't done a bad thing, but that he wasn't doing ''good'' things. After he was mistaken for Gizmoduck, things started to get out of hand, so he went on live TV to tell everyone he wasn't Gizmoduck; but accidentally said the command word for Felton's armor, while his mother, who was keeping it in her trailer, was watching the broadcast. After the armor flew all the way across town and affixed itself to Lauchpad in the middle of his denial, it kind of spoiled it. (Fortunately - or unfortunately, depending on prove your point of view - people realized he wasn't Gizmoduck after he wrecked half the city in a vain attempt innocence...\\
'''Enrico:''' No! I must strive
to control the suit.)
* This pops up too often to list off with Dan from ''WesternAnimation/DanVs'', but at one point is notably inverted. Dan declares in court that it's not his fault he smashed through the wall of a church during a wedding because he was going to run over a nun who jaywalked. Of course, the judge misunderstands him and we get this exchange:
-->'''Judge:''' So you were swerving to ''avoid'' her?\\
'''Dan:''' Uhhhhh... yeah.
better than FIIIIIIIIVEEE!!! ''(Hits 10, triggering another Earthquake)''



* In the ''WesternAnimation/DonaldDuck'' short "The Vanishing Private", Donald gets doused in experimental "invisible paint" and Pete, his sergeant, tries to track him down. Pete naturally does several things that make the General think Pete's lost his marbles, up to and including [[NapoleonDelusion wearing what looks like a bicorne hat]] while running around with an armload of grenades, ranting about "a little guy that you can't see".

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* ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'':
**
In "Round Springfield", after Bart got appendicitis after swallowing a jagged metal piece inside a box of Krusty-Os, Krusty said at a press conference he would prove the ''WesternAnimation/DonaldDuck'' short "The Vanishing Private", Donald gets doused in experimental "invisible paint" and Pete, his sergeant, tries to track him down. Pete naturally does several things metal O was safe by eating one personally, on live TV. Unfortunately for him, despite the fact that make he actually ate a ''regular'' Krusty-O, he collapsed from horrible stomach pains after doing so.
** "Who Shot Mr. Burns: Part II" Homer, pointing a gun at Mr. Burns' head, in front of everyone: "Say I never shot you!... Before."
** In "Brother From Another Series" Sideshow Bob's brother Cecil tricks him into doing this in one of
the General think Pete's lost his marbles, up to and including [[NapoleonDelusion wearing what looks like a bicorne hat]] while running around with an armload of grenades, ranting about "a little guy few episodes where Bob actually is innocent.
** In "A Fish Called Selma", Troy [=McClure=], who spent the episode fighting back against the rumors
that you can't see".he has [[BestialityIsDepraved a deviant attraction to marine wildlife]], announces that he's going to celebrate his new movie deal by happily proclaiming that he's going to... Sea World.



* In the "Keeping Up with Our Joneses" episode of ''WesternAnimation/KingOfTheHill'' where Hank, Peggy and Bobby try to quit smoking, they go to a support group where everyone is shocked when Bobby reveals that he's been a smoker ever since his dad let him smoke a whole carton. Hank then claims that he didn't let Bobby smoke the carton, he ''made'' him [[RadishCure as a punishment]].
* In ''WesternAnimation/TheNewMrPeabodyAndShermanShow'', singer Enrico Caruso is put on trial for causing the Great San Fransisco Earthquake with his voice and Mr. Peabody tries to scientifically prove that this couldn't possibly be the case, but the fiercely competitive Caruso takes hitting 10 on the scale to be a challenge.
-->'''Mr. Peabody:''' Enrico, I'm trying to prove your innocence...\\
'''Enrico:''' No! I must strive to better than FIIIIIIIIVEEE!!! ''(Hits 10, triggering another Earthquake)''

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* ''WesternAnimation/StarWarsRebels'': [[Recap/StarWarsRebelsS3E08AnInsideMan "An Inside Man"]] has two examples:
** [[MagnificentBastard Thrawn]] asks Lieutenant Lyste for his opinion of some graffiti left by Sabine of her phoenix symbol on a piece of the retaining wall. Lyste ignores the graffiti and flatly states it's a piece of the wall. Thrawn next asks Agent Kallus, who gives an informed and correct answer. [[FunnyBackgroundEvent Lyste clenches his fist in the background when he realizes he screwed up.]]
** The ReverseMole, [[spoiler:Kallus]], [[ComeWithMeIfYouWantToLive orders]] a [[DressingAsTheEnemy disguised]] Kanan and Ezra into a lift with him under the pretense of coming with him to check the perimeter. As soon as the elevator door closes, he says "Don't move, ''rebels''," in an ImpliedDeathThreat tone, which causes Kanan and Ezra to beat him up and pin him before he can explain he's on their side.
* In the "Keeping Up with Our Joneses" episode of ''WesternAnimation/KingOfTheHill'' where Hank, Peggy ''WesternAnimation/ElTigre'' pilot, Rodolfo is about to leave on a business trip and Bobby try instructs Manny to quit smoking, they go be on his best behaviour. Manny assures that he will, jokingly asking, "What do you think I'm gonna do, rob a bank?" and his chuckles quickly snowball into a full-scale evil laugh.
* ''WesternAnimation/TheZetaProject'':
** Zee is accused of being re-programmed by a terrorist, and no matter what he does the FBI always make it out
to be a support group where everyone crime. During most of the series, he is shocked when Bobby reveals pursuing his creator so he can convince them that he's been a smoker ever since good, but his dad let him smoke a whole carton. Hank then claims that actions are taken as an assassination attempt when he didn't let Bobby smoke accidentally set off the carton, he ''made'' him [[RadishCure as a punishment]].
* In ''WesternAnimation/TheNewMrPeabodyAndShermanShow'', singer Enrico Caruso is put on trial for causing the Great San Fransisco Earthquake with his voice and Mr. Peabody
cryogenic chamber, almost killing him. The poor guy just can't win.
** When Agent Bennett
tries to scientifically prove convince his superiors in the second season he hasn't [[JumpingOffTheSlipperySlope gone insane on this mission]], the fact one of his own Agents left the NSA over his behavior is pointed out. He counters he hasn't had a bad call on his record other than [[WesternAnimation/BatmanBeyond Gotham]], which is not a good incident to bring up since he nearly got part of the city blown up during that incident. [[IdiotHero Agent West]] facepalms audibly in the background.
** When Agent West is right about where Zeta is at one point, he points out the other times he found Zeta... which everyone knows were either accidents or Agent Lee doing the legwork.
** [[OnlySaneMan Agent Lee]] goes back and forth: initially she gets
this couldn't possibly be when attempting to explain Zeta isn't evil, but she's GenreSavvy enough to try that exactly once and then turn to the case, but much more provable and equally true objection to her superiors that Bennett is becoming unstable. When she feels it isn't taken seriously, she quits, an act extreme enough to prompt investigation into Bennett's behavior. But she's unable to get Zeta's case heard afterwards when she's viewed as a MoodSwinger who turned on her boss, and any response she has damages her case.
** Zeta's main character witness for
the fiercely competitive Caruso takes hitting 10 on the scale to be entire series is a challenge.
-->'''Mr. Peabody:''' Enrico, I'm trying to prove your innocence...\\
'''Enrico:''' No! I must strive to better than FIIIIIIIIVEEE!!! ''(Hits 10, triggering another Earthquake)''
runaway minor who has a criminal record. The show lives and breathes this trope.


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[[folder:Fan Works]]
* In ''WebAnimation/TurnaboutStorm'', [[WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic Rainbow Dash]] is accused of murdering one of her rivals in an upcoming race, a rare crime that could cost her a one way ticket to the Sun if she's found guilty. As [[Franchise/AceAttorney Phoenix]] is interrogating her, she comments that the prize for the winner of the race is flight lessons with her idols The Wonderbolts, and she'd do anything to get that chance.
-->'''Phoenix:''' ''([[FirstPersonSmartass Thank you for effectively establishing a motive for yourself, Ms. Dash]]. [[SarcasmMode This helps your case so much]].)''
* Clark falls victim to this trope in ''[[http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5984453/1/SmallvilleX-Evolution Smallville X: Evolution.]]'' Teleporter Alicia uses her power to teleport into Clark's bed while he's sleeping and deliberately gets them caught in bed together to make it look like Clark's been cheating on Rogue with her. Clark's protest that if he was going to sneak Alicia in he would have been smart enough to shut off the alarms first doesn't help his case, as it makes it sound like he's at the very least given serious thought as to how to sneak Alicia in, even though it never even crossed his mind.
* From ''WebVideo/DeathNoteTheAbridgedSeriesKpts4tv'', what not to say when you're being accused of being a magical mass murderer:
-->'''Light''': Hey guys, the Shinigami's dead! I totally killed it! With magic powers that I totally have!
* When rumors spread of Sakura's mother Barako sabotaging her own child, a kunoichi neighbor decides to visit her to see if the rumors are true in the FanFic/{{First Try Series}}. Barako digs herself deeper when she talks about forcing Sakura on a diet when she got too muscular, how she didn't believe Iruka's advice because he was friends with Naruto, and was "helped" by Mizuki, who told her exactly what she wanted to hear. The neighbor leaves the Haruno residence disgusted and driven to drink.
* Appears several times throughout ''FanFic/ForHisOwnSake'':
** When Seta is called into the school to discuss his daughter's tendency to bully others, Sarah proceeds to brag about how much more fun she had at the Hinata Inn, gleefully telling the principal about all the havoc she raised there.
** Called before her clan to explain her poor treatment of Keitaro, Motoko proceeds to blame him for everything because '[[AllMenArePerverts he's a perverted male]]'.
** Similarly, Naru attempts to defend her [[ATragedyOfImpulsiveness attacking a man over an innocent misunderstanding]] as 'just impulse', claiming that it's ''Keitaro's'' fault because she's so used to [[UnprovokedPervertPayback punishing him]].
* ''FanFic/RosarioVampireBrightestDarkness'':
** Just about every time someone tries to lecture her about her HairTriggerTemper, Arial ends up blowing her stack.
** In Act III chapter 24, while explaining the reasons behind their {{Jerkass}} actions in the previous chapter, Apoch and Astreal insist that they didn't mean to be so cruel. Rrrright; they threaten the gang, blow up [[GoodThingYouCanHeal Felucia]], lie to Ms. Nekonome to get the girls sent to the headmaster's office for simply asking them why they were mistreating Yukari, and try to kill Yukari right in front of God and everybody, and then say that they didn't mean to act like such bitches. [[SarcasmMode So convincing]].
** In the first few chapters of Act VI, while escaping from the [=HDA=] compound, Moka and co. are forced to fight back against the soldiers, even killing some of them; the group even acknowledges that it doesn't help their claims of peace, even if they had no choice but to fight back.
** In Act VI chapter 44, after it's revealed just how badly Kokoa injured Sun, Kokoa insists that she never meant for it to happen, whereas Felucia points out that Kokoa's actions beforehand speak differently:
-->'''Kokoa''': I'm sorry, Gin. I didn't mean to hurt her so badly.\\
'''Felucia''': You were chasing me in the halls to slaughter her in your rage. To an observer, it would seem like you were trying to kill her.
** In Act VI chapter 47, when Tsurara tells Ageha that she looks like "a whore off the street," it leads to this exchange:
-->'''Ageha''': How dare you group me with those inexperienced and trashy sluts that claim they know how to satisfy a man. I'll have you know that I've slept with greater and more powerful men than you ever will!\\
'''Tsurara''': [[LampshadeHanging And that defends you against my statement of you being a whore how?]]
* When [[WesternAnimation/GravityFalls Dipper]] is trying to get out of a jam in ''[[http://archiveofourown.org/works/4141743/chapters/9788106 Conspiratheory]]'' [[TheTrickster Bill]] offers to give him a hand. Dipper figures he's more likely to get a [[ExactWords literal hand]] in return, to which Bill calls him overly suspicious. Of course, he follows that up with, "I mean that sounds HILARIOUS ([[DidIJustSayThatOutLoud and like something Id actually do]])..."
* ''Fanfic/AdviceAndTrust'': Every time Asuka tries to convince Misato that she and Shinji are mature enough to be sleeping with each other, she ends up saying something sexual (usually about the wonderful things Shinji can do with his hands).
-->'''Misato:''' [[LampshadeHanging Asuka, is this supposed to make you look mature enough to sleep together]]?
* The Manga/AxisPowersHetalia [[http://hetalia-kink.livejournal.com/11813.html?thread=33968165#t33968165 fic]] ''Movie Night ([[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin Russia forces Prussia to watch]] Film/AlexanderNevsky)'':
-->'''Prussia:''' But I was not and have never been a Nazi. If Creator/SergeiEisenstein was alive I would burn him alive!
-->'''Russia:''' That would surely be a good way to prove Teutonic knights weren't the incarnation of evil.
* In ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/3665921/50/ Black Flames Dance in the Wind: Rise of Naruto]]'', two minor characters are talking in the aftermath of an attack on Konoha that left it's inhabitants trapped in an illusion facing their worst fears, often leading to them killing each other. One of them, Tetsuya, found his wife and brother dead at each other's hands and worse, they'd been having sex beforehand. When he calls out the other shinobi, Shinnosuke, on the fact he knew about the affair that had been going on for ''two years'', Shinnosuke tries to justify himself that first he kept quiet because Tetsuya's wife offered a night of sex. Then he kept quiet because they blackmailed him over it. The real problem comes from him deciding that if he's already forced to keep an affair from his friend, he might as well join in. Yes, he tried to justify having an affair with his friend's wife for ''two years''.
** WordOfGod says the conversation is based of an actual argument.
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* ''Film/TheAbyss'' has a scene where Hippy is the only one to agree with Lindsey...but he starts veering off into conspiracy theory territory, discrediting her case by association. A frustrated Lindsey orders Hippy to "Stay off my side!"
* In ''Film/LawnDogs'', Trent is widely distrusted by the town in which he works and treated with suspicion for being a lower-class outsider. He is accused several times of crimes he didn't commit. As such, he feels he has no love to lose from the town, and rebels with various acting-out behaviors that don't help people's perception of him at all. To make matters worse, in the end [[spoiler: he runs over the pet dog of one of the people who bully him]].
* The protagonist of Creator/AlfredHitchcock's ''Film/{{Frenzy}}'' is framed by a serial killer, who turns out to be [[spoiler: his best friend. As he's hauled off to his cell he repeatedly screams "I've got nothing to lose now! I might as well do what I'm being put away for!" This almost comes back to bite him when he escapes, as his attempt to catch the killer results in the cop who's been trying to prove his innocence for the whole film finds him standing over a dead prostitute. The real killer then shows up in a way that implicates himself.]]
* In ''Film/StreetKings'', Keanu Reeves's character is suspected of having his former partner killed. The things he does afterwards (stealing the security footage, removing a bullet from his gun from the autopsy room, pressuring the detective investigating the death) make him look far guiltier than if he just told the truth about what happened.
%%* ''Film/LordOfTheRings''. "Sméagol wouldn't hurt a fly!" ''(realises he's accidentally swatted a fly)'' "Argggh!"
%%* The main source of [[HilarityEnsues hilarity]] in the political satire ''InTheLoop''.
* The protagonist of ''Film/MinorityReport'' works for an organisation that predicts crimes and preemptively catches would-be criminals. Then he learns that ''he'' is predicted to murder a specific person at a specific location. Where does he flee from the pursuing cops? Why, to that very location! Apparently so he could... not kill that guy and thus prove his innocence. Makes perfect sense! It doesn't work, but for other reasons. It being a premeditated murder of a guy he had never met, the protagonist was trying to figure out who was framing him. Still not helping, but it was at least rational. Ironically, it is these very acts which make it premeditated even though he never met the guy, thus making the whole thing a SelfFulfillingProphecy ([[spoiler:until he subverts the ending]]).
* In Film/{{Salt}}, when a man claiming to be a defector accuses the title character, not very credibly, of being a Russian DeepCoverAgent, she ''immediately'' flees the government building where the interrogation is taking place, forcing American law enforcement to chase and attempt to capture her. [[spoiler: Unlike most examples, the accusation is true, but the trope still applies.]]
* ''Film/GhostbustersII'': When the Ghostbusters are being carted off to the insane asylum, three of them visibly fight against the guards while screaming and ranting like lunatics. Venkman, however, is GenreSavvy enough to calmly accept it and go along without a fight, at least until someone wises up and lets them out. This leads to one of the best moments in the sequel, as the other three Ghostbusters are frantically [[YouHaveToBelieveMe trying to explain the situation]] [[CassandraTruth to a disbelieving psychiatrist]]. The doctor then turns to Venkman, who had been sitting quietly to that point:
-->"[[DeadpanSnarker Don't look at me. I think these people are completely nuts.]]"
* In ''Film/MenInBlack3'', J is stopped by some very racist 1960s cops for driving while black. They seem to think that because J is black, the nice car he's driving must've been stolen. J tricks them into neuralizing themselves.
-->'''J:''' That, gentlemen, is a standard issue Neuralizer, but you're not gonna remember that. AND JUST BECAUSE YOU SEE A BLACK MAN DRIVING A NICE CAR, DOES NOT MEAN THAT IT IS STOLEN! ''[beat]'' ...Well, I stole this one. BUT NOT BECAUSE I'M BLACK.
* In ''Film/AntMan'' when the police ambush Scott at Hank Pym's house in the middle of the night we get this gem:
-->'''Scott:''' I'm not stealing anything! I was returning something I stole!
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* ''Anime/DragonBallSuper'' has Goku in the Universe Survival Arc. While he didn't know Zen'O's planned multiversal Tournament of Power would lead to all losing universes being destroyed, his nonchalant attitude upon learning the real stakes leads to other universes declaring him to be some ultimate evil, while he doesn't seem to understand why they're fearful and angry and just wants to fight. His response to Toppo calling him out on this only makes it worse.
--> '''Goku''': So I'm evil, huh? *grins*
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Compare IResembleThatRemark. Somewhat related are YouHaveToBelieveMe (a character makes bizarre statements in [[FreakOut a hysterical tone]]), DiggingYourselfDeeper (the character tries to sound [[ThatCameOutWrong less creepy]] by justifying the original creepy remark), ThenLetMeBeEvil (the character decides to live down to people's low expectations), and StickyFingers (habitual petty theft puts the character under a constant aura of suspicion). Contrast with WrongfulAccusationInsurance, where the character is not implicated for crimes committed while trying to [[ClearMyName clear their name]]. The tropes may overlap, though, if the character is called out for their crimes as they happen, yet [[EasilyForgiven unceremoniously pardoned]] after their name is cleared. Not to be confused with DontShootTheMessage.

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Compare IResembleThatRemark. Somewhat related are YouHaveToBelieveMe (a character makes bizarre statements in [[FreakOut a hysterical tone]]), DiggingYourselfDeeper (the character tries to sound [[ThatCameOutWrong less creepy]] by justifying the original creepy remark), ThenLetMeBeEvil (the character decides to live down to people's low expectations), and StickyFingers (habitual petty theft puts the character under a constant aura of suspicion). Contrast with WrongfulAccusationInsurance, where the character is not implicated for crimes committed while trying to [[ClearMyName clear their name]]. The tropes may overlap, though, if the character is called out for their crimes as they happen, yet [[EasilyForgiven unceremoniously pardoned]] after their name is cleared. Not to be confused with DontShootTheMessage.
DontShootTheMessage. For moments where someone or something else doesn't help your case, see ContrivedCoincidence and InstantlyProvenWrong.
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