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22nd Mar '17 12:35:05 PM Kereea1
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* ''Anime/DragonBallSuper'' has Goku in the Universe Survival Arc. While he didn't know Zen'O's planned multiversal Tournament of Power would lead to all losing universes being destroyed, his nonchalant attitude upon learning the real stakes leads to other universes declaring him to be some ultimate evil, while he doesn't seem to understand why they're fearful and angry and just wants to fight. His response to Toppo calling him out on this only makes it worse.
--> '''Goku''': So I'm evil, huh? *grins*
21st Mar '17 4:17:27 PM Eddy1215
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Compare IResembleThatRemark. Somewhat related are YouHaveToBelieveMe (a character makes bizarre statements in [[FreakOut a hysterical tone]]), DiggingYourselfDeeper (the character tries to sound [[ThatCameOutWrong less creepy]] by justifying the original creepy remark), ThenLetMeBeEvil (the character decides to live down to people's low expectations), and StickyFingers (habitual petty theft puts the character under a constant aura of suspicion). Contrast with WrongfulAccusationInsurance, where the character is not implicated for crimes committed while trying to [[ClearMyName clear their name]]. The tropes may overlap, though, if the character is called out for their crimes as they happen, yet [[EasilyForgiven unceremoniously pardoned]] after their name is cleared. Not to be confused with DontShootTheMessage.

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Compare IResembleThatRemark. Somewhat related are YouHaveToBelieveMe (a character makes bizarre statements in [[FreakOut a hysterical tone]]), DiggingYourselfDeeper (the character tries to sound [[ThatCameOutWrong less creepy]] by justifying the original creepy remark), ThenLetMeBeEvil (the character decides to live down to people's low expectations), and StickyFingers (habitual petty theft puts the character under a constant aura of suspicion). Contrast with WrongfulAccusationInsurance, where the character is not implicated for crimes committed while trying to [[ClearMyName clear their name]]. The tropes may overlap, though, if the character is called out for their crimes as they happen, yet [[EasilyForgiven unceremoniously pardoned]] after their name is cleared. Not to be confused with DontShootTheMessage.
DontShootTheMessage. For moments where someone or something else doesn't help your case, see ContrivedCoincidence and InstantlyProvenWrong.
4th Feb '17 12:38:54 PM Phred
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* In ''WesternAnimation/TheNewMrPeabodyAndShermanShow'', singer Enrico Caruso is put on trial for causing the Great San Fransisco Earthquake with his voice and Mr. Peabody tries to scientifically prove that this couldn't possibly be the case, but the fiercely competitive Caruso takes hitting 10 on the scale to be a challenge.
-->'''Mr. Peabody:''' Enrico, I'm trying to prove your innocence...\\
'''Enrico:''' No! I must strive to better than FIIIIIIIIVEEE!!! ''(Hits 10, triggering another Earthquake)''
24th Jan '17 6:00:03 PM LentilSandEater
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* Happens in ''Literature/HarryPotterAndThePrisonerOfAzkaban'' with Sirius Black: He is condemned for the horrible death of one Peter Pettigrew, former close friend, in front of many witnesses; having a role in the deaths of the parents of his godson Harry Potter at the hands of Voldemort, conspiracy in the attempt against the life of the mentioned protagonist, treason and other minutiae. It definitely does not help that he is found maniacally laughing at the scene of the crime, survives a punishment/MindRape in Azkaban that no sane person should and, succeeding an escape from a prison that was previously thought inescapable, goes on stalking his godson and entering Hogwarts with murderous intentions. Oh, and he let slip things like "could just as well have killed 'em myself" from time to time. As it turns out [[spoiler: he went hysterical from the deaths of his friends the Potters thanks to treasonous Peter "Wormtail" Pettigrew (whom Sirius himself recommended as the ideal SecretKeeper), tried to avenge them confronting the latter, who managed to frame Sirius for his own (faked) death, was convicted and imprisoned without fair trial, went into an HeroicBSOD so epic it bordered DespairEventHorizon and made the Dementors' powers lose their effect on him, and was in Hogwarts purely to chase Wormtail]].

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Happens in ''Literature/HarryPotterAndThePrisonerOfAzkaban'' with Sirius Black: He is condemned for the horrible death of one Peter Pettigrew, former close friend, in front of many witnesses; having a role in the deaths of the parents of his godson Harry Potter at the hands of Voldemort, conspiracy in the attempt against the life of the mentioned protagonist, treason and other minutiae. It definitely does not help that he is found maniacally laughing at the scene of the crime, survives a punishment/MindRape in Azkaban that no sane person should and, succeeding an escape from a prison that was previously thought inescapable, goes on stalking his godson and entering Hogwarts with murderous intentions. Oh, and he let slip things like "could just as well have killed 'em myself" from time to time. As it turns out [[spoiler: he went hysterical from the deaths of his friends the Potters thanks to treasonous Peter "Wormtail" Pettigrew (whom Sirius himself recommended as the ideal SecretKeeper), tried to avenge them confronting the latter, who managed to frame Sirius for his own (faked) death, was convicted and imprisoned without fair trial, went into an HeroicBSOD so epic it bordered DespairEventHorizon and made the Dementors' powers lose their effect on him, and was in Hogwarts purely to chase Wormtail]].



** Harry Potter himself and other characters of the cast will fall into the wrong side of this trope from time to time.

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** Harry Potter himself and other characters of the cast will fall into the wrong side of this trope from time to time. Take for instance ''Literature/HarryPotterAndTheChamberOfSecrets'' where he is accused of being the Heir of Slytherin, the fact he is caught being near several crime scenes and is heard speaking the snake-tongue parselmouth really doesn't help despite the fact he was trying to do good.
24th Jan '17 5:55:08 PM LentilSandEater
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*** Actually Snape ''does'' go out of his way to be suspicious and unlikable. [[spoiler: It's part of his cover as a DoubleReverseQuadrupleAgent.]]
24th Jan '17 5:54:52 PM LentilSandEater
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*** Further lampshaded by Dumbledore, who specifically points out how Sirius has not acted like an innocent man when Harry and Hermione try to convince Fudge that he is.
20th Jan '17 8:59:49 AM Chabal2
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** In a meta-sense, Slytherin House is the go-to house for villains and jerks, breeding Death Eaters like nobody's business. The first Slytherin character to not be a colossal asshat is Horace Slughorn, who isn't ambitious for himself but instead sets up connections between students with strong potential (blatantly favoring them and ignoring others). In the seventh year, not one Slytherin is part of the resistance against the Death Eaters in the school, with only later WordOfGod clarifying that some of the later reinforcements were Slytherins. It takes until ''Cursed Child'' for 100% heroic Slytherins to show up ([[spoiler:Malfoy and Harry's sons]]).
19th Jan '17 7:42:48 PM AG1995
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* ''VisualNovel/SuperDanganRonpa2'': During the second trial, Hiyoko becomes the main suspect, due to several clues damning clues - including ''her footprints at the scene of the crime''. Instead of telling the truth ([[spoiler:she was lured there and drugged by the killer, so she would leave her footprints as she left]]), she compulsively lies and changes her story multiple times.

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* ''VisualNovel/SuperDanganRonpa2'': During the second trial, Hiyoko becomes the main suspect, due to several clues damning clues clues - including ''her footprints at the scene of the crime''. crime''. Instead of telling the truth ([[spoiler:she was lured there and drugged by the killer, so she would leave her footprints as she left]]), she compulsively lies and changes her story multiple times.
19th Jan '17 7:42:02 PM AG1995
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* ''VisualNovel/SuperDanganRonpa2'': During the second trial, Hiyoko becomes the main suspect, due to several clues damning clues - including ''her footprints at the scene of the crime''. Instead of telling the truth ([[spoiler:she was lured there and drugged by the killer, so she would leave her footprints as she left]]), she compulsively lies and changes her story multiple times.
11th Jan '17 6:31:12 AM dmcreif
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* In the ''Series/Daredevil2015'' episode "Cut Man", Foggy takes Karen to Josie's. During their conversation, Karen tells Foggy that all she sees are threats. To counter this, Foggy points out three random people in the room. The guy playing pool? He organizes a Thanksgiving food drive every year. The guy having a drink at the other side of the bar? His wife owns the dry cleaner near Nelson & Murdock's office space. The guy having dinner? ...Okay, he is a criminal, but he is turning it around. Seriously!

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* PlayedForLaughs in ''Series/Daredevil2015''. In the ''Series/Daredevil2015'' episode "Cut Man", an early episode, Foggy takes Karen to Josie's. During their conversation, As they talk, Karen tells Foggy that all she sees are threats. To counter this, prove her wrong, Foggy points out to three random people in the room. The guy playing pool? He organizes a Thanksgiving food drive every year. The guy having a drink at the other side of the bar? His wife owns the dry cleaner near Nelson & Murdock's office space. The guy having dinner? ...Okay, he is a criminal, but he is turning it around. Seriously!
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