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22nd Sep '16 2:56:00 PM Miracle@StOlaf
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* ''Film/GhostbustersII'': When the Ghostbusters are being carted off to the insane asylum, three of them visibly fight against the guards while screaming and ranting like lunatics. Venkman, however, is GenreSavvy enough to calmly accept it and go along without a fight, at least until someone wises up and lets them out. This leads to one of the best moments in the sequel, as the other three Ghostbusters are frantically [[YouHaveToBelieveMe trying to explain the situation]] [[CassandraTruth to a disbelieving psychiatrist]], who then turns to Venkman, who had been sitting quietly to that point:

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* ''Film/GhostbustersII'': When the Ghostbusters are being carted off to the insane asylum, three of them visibly fight against the guards while screaming and ranting like lunatics. Venkman, however, is GenreSavvy enough to calmly accept it and go along without a fight, at least until someone wises up and lets them out. This leads to one of the best moments in the sequel, as the other three Ghostbusters are frantically [[YouHaveToBelieveMe trying to explain the situation]] [[CassandraTruth to a disbelieving psychiatrist]], who psychiatrist]]. The doctor then turns to Venkman, who had been sitting quietly to that point:
22nd Sep '16 2:54:23 PM Miracle@StOlaf
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* ''Film/GhostbustersII'': When the Ghostbusters are being carted off to the insane asylum, three of them visibly fight against the guards while screaming and ranting like lunatics. Venkman, however, is GenreSavvy enough to calmly accept it and go along without a fight, at least until someone wises up and lets them out.

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* ''Film/GhostbustersII'': When the Ghostbusters are being carted off to the insane asylum, three of them visibly fight against the guards while screaming and ranting like lunatics. Venkman, however, is GenreSavvy enough to calmly accept it and go along without a fight, at least until someone wises up and lets them out. This leads to one of the best moments in the sequel, as the other three Ghostbusters are frantically [[YouHaveToBelieveMe trying to explain the situation]] [[CassandraTruth to a disbelieving psychiatrist]], who then turns to Venkman, who had been sitting quietly to that point:
-->"[[DeadpanSnarker Don't look at me. I think these people are completely nuts.]]"
3rd Sep '16 1:16:05 PM StFan
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* Any character who has ever [[YouHaveToBelieveMe pleaded to be believed that their story]] about monsters, demons, zombies, etc., is true and that they are NOT insane while screaming and flailing in an hysterical fashion. It would only take a modicum of common sense and GenreSavvy to simply call the police and tell them where the monster is located, but hold ''that'' specific detail to yourself and instead make up a story about two large gangs waving knives at each other while cussing and insulting each other, oh and I think I saw some guns in there too. Hang up and wait for the police sirens.

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* Any character who has ever [[YouHaveToBelieveMe pleaded to be believed that their story]] about monsters, demons, zombies, etc., is true and that they are NOT insane while screaming and flailing in an hysterical fashion. It would only take a modicum of common sense and GenreSavvy to simply call the police and tell them where the monster is located, but hold ''that'' specific detail to yourself and instead make up a story about two large gangs waving knives at each other while cussing and insulting each other, oh and I think I saw some guns in there too. Hang up and wait for the police sirens.
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** Similarly, [[http://darwinawards.com/darwin/darwin2005-15.html this man]] protested the wearing of seatbelts, only to die as a result of not wearing one. He even said that it was his choice if he wanted to flirt with death, so it could be seen as a case of someone dying for their ideals, even if it is a needlessly dangerous one.

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** * Similarly, [[http://darwinawards.com/darwin/darwin2005-15.html this man]] protested the wearing of seatbelts, only to die as a result of not wearing one. He even said that it was his choice if he wanted to flirt with death, so it could be seen as a case of someone dying for their ideals, even if it is a needlessly dangerous one.
3rd Sep '16 1:13:51 PM StFan
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'''Susan:''' (''chagrined'') Sorry.

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'''Susan:''' (''chagrined'') ''[chagrined]'' Sorry.



* In ''LawnDogs'', Trent is widely distrusted by the town in which he works and treated with suspicion for being a lower-class outsider. He is accused several times of crimes he didn't commit. As such, he feels he has no love to lose from the town, and rebels with various acting-out behaviors that don't help people's perception of him at all. To make matters worse, in the end [[spoiler: he runs over the pet dog of one of the people who bully him]].

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* In ''LawnDogs'', ''Film/LawnDogs'', Trent is widely distrusted by the town in which he works and treated with suspicion for being a lower-class outsider. He is accused several times of crimes he didn't commit. As such, he feels he has no love to lose from the town, and rebels with various acting-out behaviors that don't help people's perception of him at all. To make matters worse, in the end [[spoiler: he runs over the pet dog of one of the people who bully him]].
3rd Sep '16 1:12:55 PM StFan
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-->'''Scott:''' I'm not stealing anything! I was returning something I stole!"

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-->'''Scott:''' I'm not stealing anything! I was returning something I stole!"stole!



* Tyrion Lannister from ''ASongOfIceAndFire'' does this a lot, and is strange in that he ''works it to his advantage''. As an example, when he assumed a position of authority in a city where everyone hated him and assumed he was a monster because of his unfortunate appearance, he used this as an excuse to bring along an entourage composed of vicious mountain barbarians who carry human body parts as trophies. This assisted immensely with his political goals.

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* ''Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire'':
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Tyrion Lannister from ''ASongOfIceAndFire'' does this a lot, and is strange in that he ''works it to his advantage''. As an example, when he assumed a position of authority in a city where everyone hated him and assumed he was a monster because of his unfortunate appearance, he used this as an excuse to bring along an entourage composed of vicious mountain barbarians who carry human body parts as trophies. This assisted immensely with his political goals.



* Bryony theorises that this is why Veil turned to thievery and delinquency in ''Outcast of {{Redwall}}'', because she's one of the only three Abbeydwellers who don't immediately accuse him whenever something goes missing.
* TheWheelOfTime has quite a variety of these, on a sliding scale from "didn't do something mildly embarrassing" to "not a mass-murdering monster". Perhaps the most explicit is when [[spoiler:Galina Casban]] is mouthing off to her captors about all the horrible retribution they'll face when she's freed, unaware that she's making herself look extra guilty of the murder she's been framed for. Bonus: she is a conniving evil murderer, but didn't commit that ''particular'' crime.

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* Bryony theorises that this is why Veil turned to thievery and delinquency in ''Outcast of {{Redwall}}'', Literature/{{Redwall}}'', because she's one of the only three Abbeydwellers who don't immediately accuse him whenever something goes missing.
* TheWheelOfTime ''Literature/TheWheelOfTime has quite a variety of these, on a sliding scale from "didn't do something mildly embarrassing" to "not a mass-murdering monster". monster".
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Perhaps the most explicit is when [[spoiler:Galina Casban]] is mouthing off to her captors about all the horrible retribution they'll face when she's freed, unaware that she's making herself look extra guilty of the murder she's been framed for. Bonus: she is a conniving evil murderer, but didn't commit that ''particular'' crime.



** After some CourtroomAntics aimed at showing her innocent (which Eureka sabotages at every point), when the trial is reluctantly concluded, Eureka tells them where the missing piglet trapped itself. Trying to get away from her attempts to eat it. And "Eureka was much surprised to find herself in disgrace; but she was, in spite of the fact that she had not eaten the piglet."

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** :: After some CourtroomAntics aimed at showing her innocent (which Eureka sabotages at every point), when the trial is reluctantly concluded, Eureka tells them where the missing piglet trapped itself. Trying to get away from her attempts to eat it. And "Eureka was much surprised to find herself in disgrace; but she was, in spite of the fact that she had not eaten the piglet."



* Lampshaded in an episode of ''Series/StargateSG1'' where because of some contact with an alien substance, Daniel Jackson starts hallucinating, and ranting and raving. Midway through the episode, he asks, "Why does everyone think I'm crazy?!" pauses for a moment, then adds, "It's because I'm sorta acting that way, aren't I?"

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* ''Series/StargateSG1'':
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Lampshaded in an episode of ''Series/StargateSG1'' where where, because of some contact with an alien substance, Daniel Jackson starts hallucinating, and ranting and raving. Midway through the episode, he asks, "Why does everyone think I'm crazy?!" pauses for a moment, then adds, "It's because I'm sorta acting that way, aren't I?"



* In the ''TopGear'' episode in the US South, when the stars paint inflammatory slogans on each others' cars to rile up the locals, a gas station owner angrily (and rightly) accuses them of making small town folks look bad by deliberately baiting them. She doesn't help her case at all when she calls in a truckload of rock-throwing goons.

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* In the ''TopGear'' ''Series/TopGear'' episode in the US South, when the stars paint inflammatory slogans on each others' cars to rile up the locals, a gas station owner angrily (and rightly) accuses them of making small town folks look bad by deliberately baiting them. She doesn't help her case at all when she calls in a truckload of rock-throwing goons.



* Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer kept insisting that her new college roommate was a demon because the roomie was obsessively neat, demanding and her toenails kept growing after the roomie cut them. She even collected the toenail clippings in a plastic bag and showed them to [[{{BadAssCrew}} The Scoobies]]. [[spoiler: The roomie turned out to be a demon who was sucking Buffy's soul out at night, which is why Buffy kept getting more and more desperate sounding.]]

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* Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer kept ''Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer'':
** Buffy keeps
insisting that her new college roommate was is a demon because the roomie was is obsessively neat, demanding and her toenails kept growing after the roomie cut them. She even collected the toenail clippings in a plastic bag and showed them to [[{{BadAssCrew}} [[BadassCrew The Scoobies]]. [[spoiler: The [[spoiler:The roomie turned out to be a demon who was sucking Buffy's soul out at night, which is why Buffy kept getting more and more desperate sounding.]]



* In the WalkingDead episode "Try", Rick makes a very good case why the people of Alexandria are soft, and will have trouble surviving much longer. He's probably right, but the problem is, he's bloody from a fight with one of the other town residents and waving a loaded gun around wildly.

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* In the WalkingDead ''Series/TheWalkingDead'' episode "Try", Rick makes a very good case why the people of Alexandria are soft, and will have trouble surviving much longer. He's probably right, but the problem is, he's bloody from a fight with one of the other town residents and waving a loaded gun around wildly.



* ''Komm wieder her'' by ''Music/{{Knorkator}}'' is a song about a man begging his wife to return to him. By telling her how much he needs her, he's really not helping his case.
--> "My fridge is empty, I have no clean socks. Nobody goes shopping for groceries or sweeps the floor. Who pays attention to me, and endures me."
--> "Who would make me coffee in the morning? Who would lock the door when I leave the house? Who would clean the windows and the shoes? Who would take the garbage out? Who, if not you?"
** "Put Another Log on the Fire" is similar. In the first verse, the singer gives a long list of chores for his significant other to perform, followed by the demand "Then come and tell me why you're leaving me."

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* ''Komm "Komm wieder her'' her" by ''Music/{{Knorkator}}'' is a song about a man begging his wife to return to him. By telling her how much he needs her, he's really not helping his case.
--> "My -->''My fridge is empty, I have no clean socks. Nobody goes shopping for groceries or sweeps the floor. Who pays attention to me, and endures me."
--> "Who
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Who
would make me coffee in the morning? Who would lock the door when I leave the house? Who would clean the windows and the shoes? Who would take the garbage out? Who, if not you?"
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you?''
*
"Put Another Log on the Fire" is similar. In the first verse, the singer gives a long list of chores for his significant other to perform, followed by the demand "Then come and tell me why you're leaving me."



* Happens a lot in ''Franchise/AceAttorney'', but the crowning king of the trope is probably Larry Butz. In ''VisualNovel/AceAttorneyInvestigations'', he elevates this into an art-form [[spoiler:by actively trying to counter Edgeworth's arguments... [[TooDumbToLive while Edgeworth is in the middle of trying to prove him innocent of committing murder]]]].
* Nessiah in ''YggdraUnison''. In the game's backstory, he stole from Roswell and Rosary, and a thousand years ago, he made [[UnholyHolySword the Gran Centurio]] to absorb energy from war. During the game, he's actually just trying to collect said sword and make everyone ''stop fighting'' before he leaves Ancardia for good to go RageAgainstTheHeavens. He is constantly accused of planning world destruction, and you can bet that if ''anything'' disastrous happens or any new faction gets embroiled in the conflict, he ''will'' get blamed for it because of his track record. Ordinarily, someone in this situation might try to defend himself. Nessiah [[GigglingVillain laughs his ass off at his accusers]] [[{{Troll}} and mocks them]] before going on to take over their territory.
** From the same 'verse, we have [[VideoGame/BlazeUnion Mizer]], who at the time sustained himself by sneak thieving. Upon being accused of stealing a pendant from [[TeamDad Velleman]], the party's noble sponsor, he first attempts to flee, then denies having done anything once caught, ''then'' rallies his mooks and sneak-attacks you... while [[ScrappyLevel attempting to run away a lot]]. Once you've finally wrestled him into submission, it turns out that Mizer was innocent--Velleman's pendant fell in the mud, and one of Mizer's flunkies picked it up, calling finders keepers.
* As [[WebVideo/TheSpoonyExperiment Spoony]] points out and parodies in his video review, [[Film/MinorityReport John Anderton's]] way of proving the Precrime Division he's not a murderer in the Minority Report game adaptation...is to brutally beat down and murder everyone in his path, [[WhatTheHellHero including fellow agents who are merely armed with Sick-Sticks and thus are not aiming to kill you]].

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* Happens a lot in ''Franchise/AceAttorney'', but the crowning king of the trope is probably Larry Butz. In ''VisualNovel/AceAttorneyInvestigations'', he elevates this into an art-form [[spoiler:by actively trying to counter Edgeworth's arguments... [[TooDumbToLive while Edgeworth is in the middle of trying to prove him innocent of committing murder]]]].
*
''VideoGame/YggdraUnion'':
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Nessiah in ''YggdraUnison''.''VideoGame/YggdraUnison''. In the game's backstory, he stole from Roswell and Rosary, and a thousand years ago, he made [[UnholyHolySword the Gran Centurio]] to absorb energy from war. During the game, he's actually just trying to collect said sword and make everyone ''stop fighting'' before he leaves Ancardia for good to go RageAgainstTheHeavens. He is constantly accused of planning world destruction, and you can bet that if ''anything'' disastrous happens or any new faction gets embroiled in the conflict, he ''will'' get blamed for it because of his track record. Ordinarily, someone in this situation might try to defend himself. Nessiah [[GigglingVillain laughs his ass off at his accusers]] [[{{Troll}} and mocks them]] before going on to take over their territory.
** From the same 'verse, we have [[VideoGame/BlazeUnion Mizer]], who at the time sustained himself by sneak thieving. Upon being accused of stealing a pendant from [[TeamDad Velleman]], the party's noble sponsor, he first attempts to flee, then denies having done anything once caught, ''then'' rallies his mooks and sneak-attacks you... while [[ScrappyLevel attempting to run away a lot]]. Once you've finally wrestled him into submission, it turns out that Mizer was innocent--Velleman's innocent -- Velleman's pendant fell in the mud, and one of Mizer's flunkies picked it up, calling finders keepers.
* As [[WebVideo/TheSpoonyExperiment Spoony]] points out and parodies in his video review, [[Film/MinorityReport John Anderton's]] Anderton's way of proving the Precrime Division he's not a murderer in the Minority Report ''Film/MinorityReport'' game adaptation...adaptation... is to brutally beat down and murder everyone in his path, [[WhatTheHellHero including fellow agents who are merely armed with Sick-Sticks and thus are not aiming to kill you]].



* James Tobin in the game ''InThe1stDegree'' really gets stuck in this trope. He is charged with murdering his business partner Zack and for stealing his own paintings. He ends up changing his story of what happened between him and Zack two or three times throughout the game. He ends up coming off as suspicious as a result of telling a different story more than once and shifting the blame to someone else more than once.
* ''VideoGame/GoldenSun''... will the Mars Clan of Prox please stand up? Start with stealing the artifacts to unleash the horrible power of Alchemy on the world, continue with repeated kidnappings and thefts in the pursuit of unleashing said horrible power, add in attempted murder of a {{Baleful Polymorph}}ed girl, murder of innocent scholars (and less-innocent guards) between Tolbi and Lalivero, murder of enslaved workers at Babi's Lighthouse, and is it any wonder Isaac & Co. decided lethal force was necessary to stop them?

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* James Tobin in the game ''InThe1stDegree'' ''VideoGame/InThe1stDegree'' really gets stuck in this trope. He is charged with murdering his business partner Zack and for stealing his own paintings. He ends up changing his story of what happened between him and Zack two or three times throughout the game. He ends up coming off as suspicious as a result of telling a different story more than once and shifting the blame to someone else more than once.
* ''VideoGame/GoldenSun''... will ''VideoGame/GoldenSun'':
** Will
the Mars Clan of Prox please stand up? Start with stealing the artifacts to unleash the horrible power of Alchemy on the world, continue with repeated kidnappings and thefts in the pursuit of unleashing said horrible power, add in attempted murder of a {{Baleful Polymorph}}ed girl, murder of innocent scholars (and less-innocent guards) between Tolbi and Lalivero, murder of enslaved workers at Babi's Lighthouse, and is it any wonder Isaac & Co. decided lethal force was necessary to stop them?



* This applies to the entirety of ProjectXZone: upon Meden Traore's final defeat, the story's main villains are utterly flabbergasted that the heroes ([[HeelFaceTurn and several villains from other franchises]]) would get together to stop them from recreating existence. One of the villains out and out asks why some of the heroes would want to stop them, particularly given that these protagonists come from [[CrapsackWorld crapsack worlds]]. She actually has a point: had she not spent the whole game merging the worst of the worst entities from various franchises with everyone else's universe, double crossing people who had agreed to help her, and generally trying to kill the heroes while in league with some of their multiverse's worst scum, it's possible that some of the heroes might have even agreed with it.

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* This applies to the entirety of ProjectXZone: ''VideoGame/ProjectXZone'': upon Meden Traore's final defeat, the story's main villains are utterly flabbergasted that the heroes ([[HeelFaceTurn and several villains from other franchises]]) would get together to stop them from recreating existence. One of the villains out and out asks why some of the heroes would want to stop them, particularly given that these protagonists come from [[CrapsackWorld crapsack worlds]]. She actually has a point: had she not spent the whole game merging the worst of the worst entities from various franchises with everyone else's universe, double crossing people who had agreed to help her, and generally trying to kill the heroes while in league with some of their multiverse's worst scum, it's possible that some of the heroes might have even agreed with it.



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* Happens a lot in ''Franchise/AceAttorney'', but the crowning king of the trope is probably Larry Butz. In ''VisualNovel/AceAttorneyInvestigations'', he elevates this into an art-form [[spoiler:by actively trying to counter Edgeworth's arguments... [[TooDumbToLive while Edgeworth is in the middle of trying to prove him innocent of committing murder]]]].
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** Sandra: "Some people just shouldn't try to defend themselves…"

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** Sandra: "Some -->'''Sandra:''' Some people just shouldn't try to defend themselves…"themselves...



--> '''Matt''': But I don't have any reason to go postal! Well, I guess hypothetically '''''now''''' I do. I mean ... wait, no.

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--> '''Matt''': '''Matt:''' But I don't have any reason to go postal! Well, I guess hypothetically '''''now''''' I do. I mean ...mean... wait, no.



* Zee in ''WesternAnimation/TheZetaProject''. He's accused of being re-programmed by a terrorist, and no matter what he does the FBI always make it out to be a crime. During most of the series, he was pursuing his creator so he can convince them that he's good, but his actions are taken as an assassination attempt when he accidentally set off the cryogenic chamber, almost killing him. The poor guy just can't win.

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* ''WesternAnimation/TheZetaProject'':
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Zee in ''WesternAnimation/TheZetaProject''. He's is accused of being re-programmed by a terrorist, and no matter what he does the FBI always make it out to be a crime. During most of the series, he was is pursuing his creator so he can convince them that he's good, but his actions are taken as an assassination attempt when he accidentally set off the cryogenic chamber, almost killing him. The poor guy just can't win.



* ''WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender''. You know, Zuko, telling the Gaang about that assassin you sent after them and accidentally attacking Toph ''really'' isn't going to convince them that you now want to join them. (At least he's smart enough to realise this).

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* ''WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender''. ''WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender'':
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You know, Zuko, telling the Gaang about that assassin you sent after them and accidentally attacking Toph ''really'' isn't going to convince them that you now want to join them. (At least he's smart enough to realise this).realize this.)



-->'''Earth King:''' You invade my palace, lay waste to all my guards, [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking break down my fancy door,]] and you expect me to ''trust you!?''
-->'''Toph:''' He has a good point.

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-->'''Earth --->'''Earth King:''' You invade my palace, lay waste to all my guards, [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking break down my fancy door,]] and you expect me to ''trust you!?''
-->'''Toph:'''
you!?''\\
'''Toph:'''
He has a good point.



-->'''Jet:''' I know they're firebenders! I saw the old man heating his tea!
-->'''Guard:''' He works in a tea shop.

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-->'''Jet:''' --->'''Jet:''' I know they're firebenders! I saw the old man heating his tea!
-->'''Guard:'''
tea!\\
'''Guard:'''
He works in a tea shop.



*** In the episode [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS1E9BridleGossip "Bridle Gossip"]], despite how negatively people treat the cast's suspicions, Zecora does ''nothing'' to dissuade their suspicion until Apple Bloom clears things up. If anything, she makes herself ''even more'' suspicious. On the other hand, Apple Bloom says that Zecora told her that whenever she came to town, all the stores "mysteriously closed", implying she didn't know why the ponies hid whenever she came to town and may not have had any idea they thought she was a witch.
*** This is a big part of the plot in the episode [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS2E4LunaEclipsed "Luna Eclipsed"]]. Princess Luna returns after a thousand-year banishment as the evil Nightmare Moon in an attempt to reform her public image. Unfortunately, between her spooky BigEntrance, her booming voice, and her hair-trigger temper, it's hard for her to convince anyone that she really ''isn't'' an evil villainess. And Pinkie Pie's screaming and running doesn't help either. Especially since nobody else realizes that Pinkie [[PoorCommunicationKills isn't actually scared]]. Pinkie was more at fault than Luna, seeing as Luna soon realized her theatrics weren't necessary, and actually started making progress... only to be repeatedly foiled in her efforts by Pinkie causing a scene. To the understandable frustration of [[OnlySaneMan Twilight]], who was bending over backwards to help Luna in the first place.
*** In [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS6E6NoSecondPrances "No Second Prances"]] Trixie accidentally lets it slip that she only became friends with Starlight to get back at Twilight. She then says she does consider Starlight a friend, but then digs herself even deeper when she says that getting back at Twilight was "Just a bonus."

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*** In the episode [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS1E9BridleGossip "Bridle Gossip"]], "[[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS1E9BridleGossip Bridle Gossip]]", despite how negatively people treat the cast's suspicions, Zecora does ''nothing'' to dissuade their suspicion until Apple Bloom clears things up. If anything, she makes herself ''even more'' suspicious. On the other hand, Apple Bloom says that Zecora told her that whenever she came to town, all the stores "mysteriously closed", implying she didn't know why the ponies hid whenever she came to town and may not have had any idea they thought she was a witch.
*** This is a big part of the plot in the episode [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS2E4LunaEclipsed "Luna Eclipsed"]]."[[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS2E4LunaEclipsed Luna Eclipsed]]". Princess Luna returns after a thousand-year banishment as the evil Nightmare Moon in an attempt to reform her public image. Unfortunately, between her spooky BigEntrance, her booming voice, and her hair-trigger temper, it's hard for her to convince anyone that she really ''isn't'' an evil villainess. And Pinkie Pie's screaming and running doesn't help either. Especially since nobody else realizes that Pinkie [[PoorCommunicationKills isn't actually scared]]. Pinkie was is more at fault than Luna, seeing as Luna soon realized realizes her theatrics weren't aren't necessary, and actually started starts making progress... only to be repeatedly foiled in her efforts by Pinkie causing a scene. To the understandable frustration of [[OnlySaneMan Twilight]], who was is bending over backwards to help Luna in the first place.
*** In [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS6E6NoSecondPrances "No "[[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS6E6NoSecondPrances No Second Prances"]] Prances]]" Trixie accidentally lets it slip that she only became friends with Starlight to get back at Twilight. She then says she does consider Starlight a friend, but then digs herself even deeper when she says that getting back at Twilight was "Just a bonus."



* In ''WesternAnimation/GravityFalls'' Mabel is having a hard time taking Dipper possessing his sock puppet self (long story) seriously because of how silly he looks when mad, at which point Dipper pulls off the a perfect angry [[Franchise/TheMuppets Kermit]] face while comically growling in frustration.

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* In ''WesternAnimation/GravityFalls'' ''WesternAnimation/GravityFalls'':
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Mabel is having a hard time taking Dipper possessing his sock puppet self (long story) seriously because of how silly he looks when mad, at which point Dipper pulls off the a perfect angry [[Franchise/TheMuppets Kermit]] face while comically growling in frustration.



--> '''Judge:''' So you were swerving to ''avoid'' her?
--> '''Dan:''' Uhhhhh... yeah.
* In one ''WesternAnimation/PenguinsOfMadagascar'' episode, a peanut-deprived Burt the Elephant believes Julian is a peanut and chases after him. Maurice points out that Julian's head doesn't even ''look'' like a peanut, only for an insulted Julian to comment that his head ''is'' peanut-shaped, at which point Burt shoves him down his trunk. Also in the episode, when Mort goes crazy with Skipper and Private trying to calm him down, Private tries to assure him they weren't going to hurt him...only for Skipper to state he ''did'' authorize force.

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--> '''Judge:''' -->'''Judge:''' So you were swerving to ''avoid'' her?
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her?\\
'''Dan:''' Uhhhhh... yeah.
* ''WesternAnimation/ThePenguinsOfMadagascar'': In one ''WesternAnimation/PenguinsOfMadagascar'' episode, a peanut-deprived Burt the Elephant believes Julian is a peanut and chases after him. Maurice points out that Julian's head doesn't even ''look'' like a peanut, only for an insulted Julian to comment that his head ''is'' peanut-shaped, at which point Burt shoves him down his trunk. Also in the episode, when Mort goes crazy with Skipper and Private trying to calm him down, Private tries to assure him they weren't going to hurt him...only for Skipper to state he ''did'' authorize force.



* Any character who has ever [[YouHaveToBelieveMe pleaded to be believed that their story]] about monsters, demons, zombies, etc is true and that they are NOT insane while screaming and flailing in an hysterical fashion.
** It would only take a modicum of common sense and GenreSavvy to simply call the police and tell them where the monster is located, but hold ''that'' specific detail to yourself and instead make up a story about two large gangs waving knives at each other while cussing and insulting each other, oh and I think I saw some guns in there too. Hang up and wait for the police sirens.

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* Any character who has ever [[YouHaveToBelieveMe pleaded to be believed that their story]] about monsters, demons, zombies, etc etc., is true and that they are NOT insane while screaming and flailing in an hysterical fashion.
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fashion. It would only take a modicum of common sense and GenreSavvy to simply call the police and tell them where the monster is located, but hold ''that'' specific detail to yourself and instead make up a story about two large gangs waving knives at each other while cussing and insulting each other, oh and I think I saw some guns in there too. Hang up and wait for the police sirens.



** This also happens in groups for people who don't like the ''Literature/{{Twilight}}'' series; die-hard fans will often join just to insult the other members and gush about the series.

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** * This also happens in groups for people who don't like the ''Literature/{{Twilight}}'' series; die-hard fans will often join just to insult the other members and gush about the series.






31st Aug '16 6:10:41 PM bravo104
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** In the third book, he's accused of murdering his nephew, unfairly imprisoned, and given a sham trial; and all this is happening shortly after he fought in an incredibly vicious battle during which he received a horrible injury from which he is still recovering. He snaps, and not one could blame him. And he ''still'' manages to work this to a minor advantage; [[spoiler: convinced he's getting a sham trial, he demands trial by combat. He selects a member of the Martells as his representative; the Martells are longtime rivals of the Tyrells, the Lannisters' recent political allies. If he wins the trial, the Tyrells will be pissed that the alleged murderer of their daughter's fiance got away; if he loses the trial, the Martells will be pissed that their son died for him. It's one final "screw you" to his family.]]

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** In the third book, he's accused of murdering his nephew, unfairly imprisoned, and given a sham trial; and all this is happening shortly after he fought in an incredibly vicious battle during which he received a horrible injury from which he is still recovering. He snaps, and not one could blame him. And he ''still'' manages to work this to a minor advantage; [[spoiler: convinced he's getting a sham trial, he demands trial by combat. He selects a member of the Martells as his representative; the Martells are longtime rivals of the Tyrells, the Lannisters' recent political allies. If he wins the trial, the Tyrells will be pissed that the alleged murderer of their daughter's fiance got away; away (And, although Tyrion doesn't know it, wary that Tywin might find out they actually killed Joffrey); if he loses the trial, the Martells will be pissed that their son died for him. It's one final "screw you" to his family.]]
20th Aug '16 6:22:27 PM LadyJaneGrey
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* One segment of ''Series/YouCantDoThatOnTelevision'' at Barth's had the usual gross jokes about the food, along with the accusation of Barth putting squirrel meat in the burgers, which Barth flatly denied:
-->'''Barth:'' I heard that, and it's not true! There are ''no'' squirrels in my burgers! Skunks, ''maybe'', bit ''no squirrels!'
20th Aug '16 6:26:12 AM moto12
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*** In [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS6E6NoSecondPrances "No Second Prances"]] Trixie accidentally lets it slip that she only became friends with Starlight to get back at Twilight. She then says she does consider Starlight a friend, but then digs herself even deeper when she says that getting back Twilight was "Just a bonus."

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*** In [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS6E6NoSecondPrances "No Second Prances"]] Trixie accidentally lets it slip that she only became friends with Starlight to get back at Twilight. She then says she does consider Starlight a friend, but then digs herself even deeper when she says that getting back at Twilight was "Just a bonus."
19th Aug '16 12:59:39 PM kouta
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* In ''Webcomic/Exiern'' Faden says "Just for the record I never tortured anyone. I was more into the killing and destroying side of evil wizardom."

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* In ''Webcomic/Exiern'' ''Webcomic/{{Exiern}}'' Faden says "Just for the record I never tortured anyone. I was more into the killing and destroying side of evil wizardom."
19th Aug '16 12:57:44 PM kouta
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* In ''Webcomic/Exiern'' Faden says "Just for the record I never tortured anyone. I was more into the killing and destroying side of evil wizardom."
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