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12th Jul '17 10:59:48 AM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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This is often held back as a dramatic (and tragic) reveal after a long montage (or whole episode) of the heroes performing [[MagicAntidote all]] [[IKnowYouAreInThereSomewhereFight manner]] [[ThePowerOfFriendship of]] [[ThePowerOfLove attempts]] to break whatever control the BigBad has over this character. The reason it doesn't work? Because the BigBad doesn't actually ''have'' any control over them to begin with; they insist they are NotBrainwashed, and they're right.

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This is often held back as a dramatic (and tragic) reveal after a long montage (or whole episode) of the heroes performing [[MagicAntidote all]] [[IKnowYouAreInThereSomewhereFight manner]] [[ThePowerOfFriendship of]] [[ThePowerOfLove attempts]] to break whatever control the BigBad has over this character. The reason it doesn't work? Because the BigBad doesn't actually ''have'' any control over them to begin with; they insist they are NotBrainwashed, Not Brainwashed, and they're right.



Having one person out of a million NotBrainwashed is becoming more and more common. Not so much a [[SubvertedTrope subversion]] as the [[CyclicTrope natural cycle]] of the trope.

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Having one person out of a million NotBrainwashed Not Brainwashed is becoming more and more common. Not so much a [[SubvertedTrope subversion]] as the [[CyclicTrope natural cycle]] of the trope.



** This {{Retcon}} does illustrate how it can often be hard to tell when somebody's ''really'' NotBrainwashed: somebody who really has been brainwashed is ''rather unlikely to say so'', after all. If they did it would mean they were brainwashed ''really poorly''.

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** This {{Retcon}} does illustrate how it can often be hard to tell when somebody's ''really'' NotBrainwashed: Not Brainwashed: somebody who really has been brainwashed is ''rather unlikely to say so'', after all. If they did it would mean they were brainwashed ''really poorly''.



* In ''WesternAnimation/AmericanDragonJakeLong'', Spud makes a deal with an evil Gorgon who claims that she will make his [[AllGuysWantCheerleaders cheerleader]] crush Stacy [[LovePotion fall in love]] with him. And when Stacy does decide she likes Spud, he thinks that it's because of this supposed "love spell," even though she continues to act far more fickle than you'd think someone truly under a love spell would act. In the end, like any other DealWithTheDevil, Spud has to break off his alliance with the Gorgon, and prepares himself for Stacy to break up with him now that she's not enchanted anymore. But Spud is relieved to find that there was never a love spell, and Stacy was NotBrainwashed.

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* In ''WesternAnimation/AmericanDragonJakeLong'', Spud makes a deal with an evil Gorgon who claims that she will make his [[AllGuysWantCheerleaders cheerleader]] crush Stacy [[LovePotion fall in love]] with him. And when Stacy does decide she likes Spud, he thinks that it's because of this supposed "love spell," even though she continues to act far more fickle than you'd think someone truly under a love spell would act. In the end, like any other DealWithTheDevil, Spud has to break off his alliance with the Gorgon, and prepares himself for Stacy to break up with him now that she's not enchanted anymore. But Spud is relieved to find that there was never a love spell, and Stacy was NotBrainwashed.Not Brainwashed.
3rd Jun '17 9:10:27 AM Piterpicher
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* In ''SuikodenI'': [[spoiler:The BigBad of the game has most of the empire's soldiers under her MindControl, and everyone (including her) thinks she has the king under that power, too. At the very end of the game, though, he reveals that he was never really under her control, and was acting the way he did [[LoveMartyr because he genuinely loved her]].]]

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* In ''SuikodenI'': ''VideoGame/SuikodenI'': [[spoiler:The BigBad of the game has most of the empire's soldiers under her MindControl, and everyone (including her) thinks she has the king under that power, too. At the very end of the game, though, he reveals that he was never really under her control, and was acting the way he did [[LoveMartyr because he genuinely loved her]].]]
27th Apr '17 8:40:47 PM Golondrina
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* The final arc of ''ItsWalky'' deals with several mind-controlled former teammates... and one who, it turns out, switched sides by choice.

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* The final arc of ''ItsWalky'' ''Webcomic/ItsWalky'' deals with several mind-controlled former teammates... and one who, it turns out, switched sides by choice.
6th Apr '17 11:57:37 AM quackinc
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* In ResidentEvil7Biohazard, it is slowly revealed that the HillbillyHorrors you meet are in fact BrainwashedAndCrazy. Except for the PsychopathicManchild Lucas. He turns out to have been already a murderer even before all of this, and just hangs around after escaping the brainwashing for the [[HealingFactor perks]].
24th Mar '17 11:57:09 AM wootzits
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** In ''Passage'', [[spoiler: Alder]] is not beguiled by the rogue Lakewalker.

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** In ''Passage'', [[spoiler: Alder]] [[spoiler:Alder]] is not beguiled by the rogue Lakewalker.



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* Michalis of ''VideoGame/FireEmblemAkaneia'' killed his own father, took the throne of Macedon and ruled as a power-hungry tyrant. When his sister Minerva finds him NotQuiteDead in the sequel, she assumes he was brainwashed by Gharnef. (And since Gharnef brainwashed at least two other characters into being evil, she's right to be suspicious.) Turns out he was a case of this trope, Gharnef had in fact used MoreThanMindControl, playing on his ambition and desire to improve Macedon's standing in the world. The FaceHeelTurn was completley genuine. [[spoiler: Of course, this also means he's able to pull a genuine HeelFaceTurn later.]]
** This is basically the biggest plot twist of ''VideoGame/FireEmblemTheSacredStones'' if you choose to follow Ephraim's path. [[spoiler: Turns out [[BigBadFriend Lyon]] was never possessed by the Demon King. He simply summoned his soul by using dark magic, drew power from it and then ''pretended'' to have been possessed in order to easily control his followers. Of course, at the very end, upon Lyon's defeat, the Demon King's soul does end up truly taking over, and implying that he let Lyon get away with what he was doing because it was good for his plans too.]] None of this happens if you choose to follow Eirika's path. [[spoiler:In this latter version, Lyon really was possessed the whole time.]]

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* Michalis of ''VideoGame/FireEmblemAkaneia'' killed his own father, took the throne of Macedon and ruled as a power-hungry tyrant. When his sister Minerva finds him NotQuiteDead in the sequel, she assumes he was brainwashed by Gharnef. (And since Gharnef brainwashed at least two other characters into being evil, she's right to be suspicious.) Turns out he was a case of this trope, Gharnef had in fact used MoreThanMindControl, playing on his ambition and desire to improve Macedon's standing in the world. The FaceHeelTurn was completley genuine. [[spoiler: Of [[spoiler:Of course, this also means he's able to pull a genuine HeelFaceTurn later.]]
** This is basically the biggest plot twist of ''VideoGame/FireEmblemTheSacredStones'' if you choose to follow Ephraim's path. [[spoiler: Turns [[spoiler:Turns out [[BigBadFriend Lyon]] was never possessed by the Demon King. He simply summoned his soul by using dark magic, drew power from it and then ''pretended'' to have been possessed in order to easily control his followers. Of course, at the very end, upon Lyon's defeat, the Demon King's soul does end up truly taking over, and implying that he let Lyon get away with what he was doing because it was good for his plans too.]] None of this happens if you choose to follow Eirika's path. [[spoiler:In this latter version, Lyon really was possessed the whole time.]]


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* ''VideoGame/TokyoMirageSessionsFE'': Until chapter 5, the party deals with artists who've been brainwashed into a state of insanity by powerful Mirages. Towards the end of chapter 5, they face [[spoiler:Yatsufusa]] and they assume he's brainwashed like everyone else before him. But no, he's fully aware of his actions and is working with the Mirages of his own free will; he's completely insane and wants to destroy the world because he thinks that'd be the greatest form of entertainment.
19th Mar '17 10:43:31 PM StClair
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* In the pilot episode of ''WesternAnimation/BuzzLightyearOfStarCommand'', our hero is surprised to find his ex-partner Warp Darkmatter is not only alive, but [[TheDragon working]] for the BigBad. Unable to accept that his buddy was EvilAllAlong, Buzz offers several tried-and-true possible explanations:

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* In the pilot episode of ''WesternAnimation/BuzzLightyearOfStarCommand'', our hero is surprised to find his ex-partner Warp Darkmatter is not only alive, but [[TheDragon working]] for the BigBad. Unable to accept that his buddy was EvilAllAlong, Buzz offers [[WrongGenreSavvy several tried-and-true possible explanations:explanations]]:
18th Mar '17 12:50:55 PM imadmagician
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* Another Yugioh example in ''Anime/YuGiOhZEXAL'': the BiggerBad - who corrupted humans with hatred and FakeMemories - was defeated, but the last Barian standing (Nash) was still intent on taking [[TheHero Yuma]] down. Understandably, Yuma refused to fight his friend, claiming he still was under the influence of the curse. But Nash explained his memories were not toyed with, that the real curse was his own, conscious vow to protect the Barian World at all costs, meaning their duel to the death was inevitable.
9th Feb '17 10:06:47 PM infernape612
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* Michalis of ''Videogame/FireEmblemAkaneia'' killed his own father, took the throne of Macedon and ruled as a power-hungry tyrant. When his sister Minerva finds him NotQuiteDead in the sequel, she assumes he was brainwashed by Gharnef. (And since Gharnef brainwashed at least two other characters into being evil, she's right to be suspicious) Turns out he was a case of this trope, Gharnef had in fact used MoreThanMindControl, playing on his ambition and desire to improve Macedon's standing in the world. The FaceHeelTurn was completley genuine. [[spoiler: Of course, this also means he's able to pull a genuine HeelFaceTurn later.]]
** This is basically the biggest plot twist of ''Videogame/FireEmblemTheSacredStones'' if you choose to follow Ephraim's path. [[spoiler: Turns out [[BigBadFriend Lyon]] was never possessed by the Demon King. He simply summoned his soul by using dark magic, drew power from it and then ''pretended'' to have been possessed in order to easily control his followers. Of course, at the very end, upon Lyon's defeat, the Demon King's soul does end up truly taking over, and implying that he let Lyon get away with what he was doing because it was good for his plans too.]] None of this happens if you choose to follow Eirika's path. [[spoiler:In this latter version, Lyon really was possessed the whole time.]]

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* Michalis of ''Videogame/FireEmblemAkaneia'' ''VideoGame/FireEmblemAkaneia'' killed his own father, took the throne of Macedon and ruled as a power-hungry tyrant. When his sister Minerva finds him NotQuiteDead in the sequel, she assumes he was brainwashed by Gharnef. (And since Gharnef brainwashed at least two other characters into being evil, she's right to be suspicious) suspicious.) Turns out he was a case of this trope, Gharnef had in fact used MoreThanMindControl, playing on his ambition and desire to improve Macedon's standing in the world. The FaceHeelTurn was completley genuine. [[spoiler: Of course, this also means he's able to pull a genuine HeelFaceTurn later.]]
** This is basically the biggest plot twist of ''Videogame/FireEmblemTheSacredStones'' ''VideoGame/FireEmblemTheSacredStones'' if you choose to follow Ephraim's path. [[spoiler: Turns out [[BigBadFriend Lyon]] was never possessed by the Demon King. He simply summoned his soul by using dark magic, drew power from it and then ''pretended'' to have been possessed in order to easily control his followers. Of course, at the very end, upon Lyon's defeat, the Demon King's soul does end up truly taking over, and implying that he let Lyon get away with what he was doing because it was good for his plans too.]] None of this happens if you choose to follow Eirika's path. [[spoiler:In this latter version, Lyon really was possessed the whole time.]]]]
** This happens again in ''VideoGame/FireEmblemHeroes''. Most Heroes are forced into the service of the Emblian Empire by being placed under a contract that makes them fight for them. [[VideoGame/FireEmblemFates Xander]], on the other hand, decides to continue to follow the Emblians even after he is released from his contract because he believes BigBad Princess Veronica is just [[DarkMagicalGirl a lonely girl that he needs to help]].
19th Jan '17 10:08:43 AM CrowTR0bot
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* [[spoiler: The Inquisitor, a [[VideoGame/MassEffect Reaper]]]] from ''Fanfic/WhenThereWasATomorrow'' boast that it did not require [[spoiler: [[BrainwashedAndCrazy Indoctrination]] to bend [[ScaryDogmaticAliens The Covenant Leadership]] to its will. It instead pretended to be a Forerunner AI and exploited their religious fanaticism to forward its EvilPlan]].
10th Jan '17 10:23:47 AM Scorntex
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* ''ComicBook/InfiniteCrisis:'' When the BigBad is revealed, and explaining what they've been doing to Power Girl, manipulating events behind the scenes for years, she takes it to mean that their manipulations are why Superman, Batman and Wonder Woman have been on the outs through the event. She's promptly told that nope, that's just their own fault.
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