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19th Mar '17 10:43:31 PM StClair
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* In the pilot episode of ''WesternAnimation/BuzzLightyearOfStarCommand'', our hero is surprised to find his ex-partner Warp Darkmatter is not only alive, but [[TheDragon working]] for the BigBad. Unable to accept that his buddy was EvilAllAlong, Buzz offers several tried-and-true possible explanations:

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* In the pilot episode of ''WesternAnimation/BuzzLightyearOfStarCommand'', our hero is surprised to find his ex-partner Warp Darkmatter is not only alive, but [[TheDragon working]] for the BigBad. Unable to accept that his buddy was EvilAllAlong, Buzz offers [[WrongGenreSavvy several tried-and-true possible explanations:explanations]]:
18th Mar '17 12:50:55 PM imadmagician
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* Another Yugioh example in ''Anime/YuGiOhZEXAL'': the BiggerBad - who corrupted humans with hatred and FakeMemories - was defeated, but the last Barian standing (Nash) was still intent on taking [[TheHero Yuma]] down. Understandably, Yuma refused to fight his friend, claiming he still was under the influence of the curse. But Nash explained his memories were not toyed with, that the real curse was his own, conscious vow to protect the Barian World at all costs, meaning their duel to the death was inevitable.
9th Feb '17 10:06:47 PM infernape612
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* Michalis of ''Videogame/FireEmblemAkaneia'' killed his own father, took the throne of Macedon and ruled as a power-hungry tyrant. When his sister Minerva finds him NotQuiteDead in the sequel, she assumes he was brainwashed by Gharnef. (And since Gharnef brainwashed at least two other characters into being evil, she's right to be suspicious) Turns out he was a case of this trope, Gharnef had in fact used MoreThanMindControl, playing on his ambition and desire to improve Macedon's standing in the world. The FaceHeelTurn was completley genuine. [[spoiler: Of course, this also means he's able to pull a genuine HeelFaceTurn later.]]
** This is basically the biggest plot twist of ''Videogame/FireEmblemTheSacredStones'' if you choose to follow Ephraim's path. [[spoiler: Turns out [[BigBadFriend Lyon]] was never possessed by the Demon King. He simply summoned his soul by using dark magic, drew power from it and then ''pretended'' to have been possessed in order to easily control his followers. Of course, at the very end, upon Lyon's defeat, the Demon King's soul does end up truly taking over, and implying that he let Lyon get away with what he was doing because it was good for his plans too.]] None of this happens if you choose to follow Eirika's path. [[spoiler:In this latter version, Lyon really was possessed the whole time.]]

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* Michalis of ''Videogame/FireEmblemAkaneia'' ''VideoGame/FireEmblemAkaneia'' killed his own father, took the throne of Macedon and ruled as a power-hungry tyrant. When his sister Minerva finds him NotQuiteDead in the sequel, she assumes he was brainwashed by Gharnef. (And since Gharnef brainwashed at least two other characters into being evil, she's right to be suspicious) suspicious.) Turns out he was a case of this trope, Gharnef had in fact used MoreThanMindControl, playing on his ambition and desire to improve Macedon's standing in the world. The FaceHeelTurn was completley genuine. [[spoiler: Of course, this also means he's able to pull a genuine HeelFaceTurn later.]]
** This is basically the biggest plot twist of ''Videogame/FireEmblemTheSacredStones'' ''VideoGame/FireEmblemTheSacredStones'' if you choose to follow Ephraim's path. [[spoiler: Turns out [[BigBadFriend Lyon]] was never possessed by the Demon King. He simply summoned his soul by using dark magic, drew power from it and then ''pretended'' to have been possessed in order to easily control his followers. Of course, at the very end, upon Lyon's defeat, the Demon King's soul does end up truly taking over, and implying that he let Lyon get away with what he was doing because it was good for his plans too.]] None of this happens if you choose to follow Eirika's path. [[spoiler:In this latter version, Lyon really was possessed the whole time.]]]]
** This happens again in ''VideoGame/FireEmblemHeroes''. Most Heroes are forced into the service of the Emblian Empire by being placed under a contract that makes them fight for them. [[VideoGame/FireEmblemFates Xander]], on the other hand, decides to continue to follow the Emblians even after he is released from his contract because he believes BigBad Princess Veronica is just [[DarkMagicalGirl a lonely girl that he needs to help]].
19th Jan '17 10:08:43 AM CrowTR0bot
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* [[spoiler: The Inquisitor, a [[VideoGame/MassEffect Reaper]]]] from ''Fanfic/WhenThereWasATomorrow'' boast that it did not require [[spoiler: [[BrainwashedAndCrazy Indoctrination]] to bend [[ScaryDogmaticAliens The Covenant Leadership]] to its will. It instead pretended to be a Forerunner AI and exploited their religious fanaticism to forward its EvilPlan]].
10th Jan '17 10:23:47 AM Scorntex
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* ''ComicBook/InfiniteCrisis:'' When the BigBad is revealed, and explaining what they've been doing to Power Girl, manipulating events behind the scenes for years, she takes it to mean that their manipulations are why Superman, Batman and Wonder Woman have been on the outs through the event. She's promptly told that nope, that's just their own fault.
26th Dec '16 1:33:57 PM nombretomado
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* In ''{{Transformers}}: BeastMachines'', Optimus Primal believes that Megatron has brainwashed Rhinox and turned him into the villainous Tankor. Even after awakening his spark, though, Tankor continues to oppose Optimus, as he has grown disillusioned with him after the failure of the Beast Wars.
** Although he ''was'' actually brainwashed at first.

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* In ''{{Transformers}}: BeastMachines'', WesternAnimation/BeastMachines'':
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Optimus Primal believes that Megatron has brainwashed Rhinox and turned him into the villainous Tankor. Even While technically correct - he was brainwashed at first - after awakening his spark, though, spark is awakened, Tankor continues to oppose Optimus, as he has grown disillusioned with him after the failure of the Beast Wars.
** Although he ''was'' actually brainwashed at first.
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** And finally [[spoiler:comedy-relief punching bag Waspinator]] got brainwashed into [[spoiler:the motorcycle-based Thrust]]. When he was finally freed of his brainwashing he was quite upset as well, since "[[spoiler:biker-bot was cool!]]" and he liked being cool for a change.

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** And finally [[spoiler:comedy-relief [[spoiler:Comedy-relief punching bag Waspinator]] got brainwashed into [[spoiler:the motorcycle-based Thrust]]. When he was finally freed of his brainwashing he was quite upset as well, since "[[spoiler:biker-bot was cool!]]" and he liked being cool for a change.
26th Dec '16 11:28:33 AM nombretomado
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* Played with in ''BatmanUnderTheRedHood''. Given his background, [[spoiler:Jason Todd]] proposes this is what's causing him to cross the line but he himself doesn't seem totally sure, as the Lazarus Pit's influence on his mind could also be to blame (the Pit's side effect is to induce madness in the subject).

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* Played with in ''BatmanUnderTheRedHood''.''WesternAnimation/BatmanUnderTheRedHood''. Given his background, [[spoiler:Jason Todd]] proposes this is what's causing him to cross the line but he himself doesn't seem totally sure, as the Lazarus Pit's influence on his mind could also be to blame (the Pit's side effect is to induce madness in the subject).
10th Dec '16 3:38:09 PM Dragon101
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* In the ''Series/AgentsOfSHIELD'' episode [[Recap/AgentsOfSHIELDS2E3MakingFriendsAndInfluencingPeople "Making Friends and Influencing People"]], Ward, a HYDRA [[TheMole mole]] who betrayed the team in Season 1, reveals during an interrogation that HYDRA sometimes uses brainwashing to force people to join them, giving Skye (and the audience) a brief HopeSpot that Ward may have been brainwashed all along, but he quickly makes clear he was never brainwashed and everything he's done was of his own free will.

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* In the ''Series/AgentsOfSHIELD'' episode [[Recap/AgentsOfSHIELDS2E3MakingFriendsAndInfluencingPeople "Making Friends and Influencing People"]], Ward, a HYDRA [[TheMole mole]] who betrayed the team in Season 1, reveals during an interrogation that HYDRA sometimes uses brainwashing MindControl to force people to join them, giving Skye (and the audience) a brief HopeSpot that Ward may have been brainwashed all along, but he quickly makes clear he was never brainwashed and everything he's done was of his own free will.will. {{Downplayed}} though since he was recruited and conditioned as a troubled young teen by charismatic [[TheSociopath sociopath]] John Garrett, so technically he fits the more traditional real world definition of "brainwashed" by being a victim of indoctrination, which puts him in a murky gray area even after he starts pursuing more selfish end goals for himself (since he's clearly AxCrazy and not entirely sane from a combination of that and an abusive childhood).



** When Peter learns that the symbiote has bonded to Eddie Brock (who is like a brother to him in this continuity just like in the Ultimate Spider-Man comics), he thinks that it's corrupting Eddie like it tried to do to him and begs him to fight its influence. Eddie responds by saying that he's not being controlled, he just shares the symbiote's desire to destroy Peter (the symbiote [[IfICantHaveYou wants to kill Peter because he rejected it]], and Eddie wants to kill him because Peter's actions indirectly screwed Eddie over). Eventually Eddie reveals that he's always resented Peter, because even though their parents died in the same accident, Peter was taken in by his aunt and uncle, and Eddie ended up all alone... until now.

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** When Peter learns that the symbiote has bonded to Eddie Brock (who is like a brother to him in this continuity just like in the Ultimate Spider-Man comics), he thinks that it's corrupting Eddie like it tried to do to him and begs him to fight its influence. Eddie responds by saying that he's not being controlled, he just shares the symbiote's desire to destroy Peter (the symbiote [[IfICantHaveYou wants to kill Peter because he rejected it]], and Eddie wants to kill him because Peter's actions indirectly screwed Eddie over). Eventually Eddie reveals that he's always resented Peter, because even though their parents died in the same accident, Peter was taken in by his aunt and uncle, and Eddie ended up all alone... until now. [[DownplayedTrope That being said]], as it had already been established that the symbiote can and does affect the character of whoever wears it by bringing out their dark side, it is possible that Eddie was simply in denial- while he may indeed have unconsciously resented Peter for all those reasons, it is likely that the symbiote exaggerated and played upon it while smothering the more genuinely positive feelings towards him that he had displayed earlier in the series. HumansAreFlawed, after all.
4th Dec '16 4:14:12 AM upupandaway42
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* In the AgentsOfSHIELD episode [[Recap/AgentsOfSHIELDS2E3MakingFriendsAndInfluencingPeople "Making Friends and Influencing People"]], Ward, a HYDRA [[TheMole mole]] who betrayed the team in Season 1, reveals during an interrogation that HYDRA sometimes uses brainwashing to force people to join them, giving Skye (and the audience) a brief HopeSpot that Ward may have been brainwashed all along, but he quickly makes clear he was never brainwashed and everything he's done was of his own free will.

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* In the AgentsOfSHIELD ''Series/AgentsOfSHIELD'' episode [[Recap/AgentsOfSHIELDS2E3MakingFriendsAndInfluencingPeople "Making Friends and Influencing People"]], Ward, a HYDRA [[TheMole mole]] who betrayed the team in Season 1, reveals during an interrogation that HYDRA sometimes uses brainwashing to force people to join them, giving Skye (and the audience) a brief HopeSpot that Ward may have been brainwashed all along, but he quickly makes clear he was never brainwashed and everything he's done was of his own free will.
3rd Dec '16 10:19:18 AM upupandaway42
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* In the AgentsOfSHIELD episode [[Recap/AgentsOfSHIELDS2E3MakingFriendsAndInfluencingPeople "Making Friends and Influencing People"]], Ward, a HYDRA [[TheMole mole]] who betrayed the team in Season 1, reveals during an interrogation that HYDRA sometimes uses brainwashing to force people to join them, giving Skye (and the audience) a brief HopeSpot that Ward may have been brainwashed all along, but he quickly makes clear he was never brainwashed and everything he's done was of his own free will.
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