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2nd Jan '17 4:21:59 PM nombretomado
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** ''VideoGame/{{Portal 2}}'': At the end of the co-operative campaign, Atlas and P-Body discover [[spoiler: a vault containing ten thousand more human subjects in suspended animation]]. But in the "Peer Review" DLC [[spoiler: GLaDOS says she killed them all trying to make them as indestructible as Chell. Clearly, they weren't important to the plot.]]

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** ''VideoGame/{{Portal 2}}'': At the end of the co-operative campaign, Atlas and P-Body discover [[spoiler: a vault containing ten thousand more human subjects in suspended animation]]. But in the "Peer Review" DLC [[spoiler: GLaDOS [=GLaDOS=] says she killed them all trying to make them as indestructible as Chell. Clearly, they weren't important to the plot.]]
25th Nov '16 11:21:55 AM Morgenthaler
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* ''VideoGame/DwarfFortress'': All the dwarves have names, as do any visiting humans and elves. But for the monsters to have names they have to slaughter enough dwarves to become important. As creatures which start out with names (dwarves, goblins, humans, etc.) rack up kills, they eventually gain an extension of their original name. Because of this, one can often tell who the local {{badass}}es are by looking at who has the longest name(s).

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* ''VideoGame/DwarfFortress'': All the dwarves have names, as do any visiting humans and elves. But for the monsters to have names they have to slaughter enough dwarves to become important. As creatures which start out with names (dwarves, goblins, humans, etc.) rack up kills, they eventually gain an extension of their original name. Because of this, one can often tell who the local {{badass}}es badasses are by looking at who has the longest name(s).
25th Nov '16 1:24:55 AM PaulA
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* DavidDrake likes to avert this and made extensive use of {{Tuckerization}} in one of his Literature/{{RCN}} books for this purpose (as well as to salute his friends). He explained this in the acknowledgments to the book and noted he was using the ''names'' but not the ''personalities'' and this was, in many cases, "a Good Thing" -- because [[DontExplainTheJoke (he didn't spell this part out)]] some of the people he named after his friends were total wastes of skin.

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* DavidDrake Creator/DavidDrake likes to avert this and made extensive use of {{Tuckerization}} in one of his Literature/{{RCN}} ''Literature/{{RCN}}'' books for this purpose (as well as to salute his friends). He explained this in the acknowledgments to the book and noted he was using the ''names'' but not the ''personalities'' and this was, in many cases, "a Good Thing" -- because [[DontExplainTheJoke (he didn't spell this part out)]] some of the people he named after his friends were total wastes of skin.
27th Oct '16 11:24:46 AM Morgenthaler
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* The ''StarWarsExpandedUniverse'' has an in-universe case with the Gand species, whose beliefs hold that you have to ''earn'' a name by accomplishing something that ''proves'' your importance.

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* The ''StarWarsExpandedUniverse'' ''Franchise/StarWarsExpandedUniverse'' has an in-universe case with the Gand species, whose beliefs hold that you have to ''earn'' a name by accomplishing something that ''proves'' your importance.



* Invoked in ASongOfIceAndFire. While arguing whether or not to sacrifice [[spoiler: Edric Storm]] the pro-sacrifice side refers to him as "the boy" or "the bastard." Davos, who opposes the idea, resolves to use his name as frequently as possible.

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* Invoked in ASongOfIceAndFire.''Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire''. While arguing whether or not to sacrifice [[spoiler: Edric Storm]] the pro-sacrifice side refers to him as "the boy" or "the bastard." Davos, who opposes the idea, resolves to use his name as frequently as possible.



* Averted in HarryPotter, where the majority of the LoadsAndLoadsOfCharacters have names, whether they turn out to be important or not. In the first book, there are names mentioned in the Sorting ceremony that don't really do anything until later books, like Blaise Zabini. Even the Riddle estate's caretaker who gets killed by Voldemort in the first chapter of the fourth book, and an Arab wizard who smuggles magic carpets and never shows up again in the story after the conversation about him, have names.

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* Averted in HarryPotter, ''Literature/HarryPotter'', where the majority of the LoadsAndLoadsOfCharacters have names, whether they turn out to be important or not. In the first book, there are names mentioned in the Sorting ceremony that don't really do anything until later books, like Blaise Zabini. Even the Riddle estate's caretaker who gets killed by Voldemort in the first chapter of the fourth book, and an Arab wizard who smuggles magic carpets and never shows up again in the story after the conversation about him, have names.
27th Oct '16 12:47:19 AM Kid
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* ''Franchise/{{Pokemon}}'' has, since ''[[VideoGame/PokemonGoldAndSilver Gold & Silver]]'', assigned names to each trainer you meet and gives you a cell phone so you can call them for repeat battles. No word yet why they call ''you'' every five hours to tell you about their adorable Metapod or a Vulpix that got away. Random Grunts for the local villainous team are typically left unnamed however. (With the exception of the Gamecube Games). The ''Diamond and Pearl Adventures'' Manga makes fun of this by having a recurring mook refer to himself solely by his assigned number: "K-2". (K-2 is pronounced similarly to "''ketsu''", or "''butt''". You can guess what his major identifying feature is...)

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* ''Franchise/{{Pokemon}}'' has, since ''[[VideoGame/PokemonGoldAndSilver Gold & Silver]]'', assigned names to each trainer you meet and gives you a cell phone so you can call them for repeat battles. No word yet why they call ''you'' every five hours to tell you about their adorable Metapod or a Vulpix that got away. Random Grunts for the local villainous team are typically left unnamed however. (With the exception of the Gamecube Games). Games.) The ''Diamond and Pearl Adventures'' Manga makes fun of this by having a recurring mook refer to himself solely by his assigned number: "K-2". (K-2 is pronounced similarly to "''ketsu''", or "''butt''". You can guess what his major identifying feature is...)
22nd Oct '16 5:24:12 AM UmbrellasWereAwesome
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*** Interestingly, despite having a character portrait, Mr. Edogawa was never important to the plot or social link system ...in ''Persona 3''. In ''VideoGame/{{Persona 4}}'', however, he [[spoiler: gives exposition on the legend of Izanagi and Izanami, helping set up one of the sparse hints as to who's ''really'' pulling the strings]].



** In ''VideoGame/{{Persona 4}}'', a rather strange looking kid hits on Yukiko rather early in the game, and judging from his character portrait, you get the distinct impression that he becomes important later (and he does; he's a [[spoiler:minor villain by the name of Mitsuo Kubo]]). The same could be said for Taro Nametame, who is introduced early on and, aside from having an affair with one of the victims, has nothing to do with the story until you find out [[spoiler: he's the one who's been throwing people into the Midnight Channel]]. On the other hand, [[spoiler: the Moel gas station attendant]] lacks both a name and character portrait until after the big reveal that [[spoiler:she's the GreaterScopeVillain]] in the [[spoiler: true]] ending.

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** In ''VideoGame/{{Persona 4}}'', a rather strange looking kid hits on Yukiko rather early in the game, and judging from his character portrait, you get the distinct impression that he becomes important later (and he does; he's a [[spoiler:minor villain by the name of Mitsuo Kubo]]). The same could be said for Taro Nametame, who is introduced early on and, aside from having an affair with one of the victims, has nothing to do with the story until you find out [[spoiler: he's the one who's been throwing people into the Midnight Channel]]. On the other hand, [[spoiler: the Moel gas station attendant]] lacks both a name and character portrait until after ''after'' the big reveal that [[spoiler:she's the GreaterScopeVillain]] in the [[spoiler: true]] ending.ending.
** Interestingly, despite having a character portrait, Mr. Edogawa was never important to either the plot or social link system in ''Persona 3''. In ''Persona 4'', however, he [[spoiler: gives exposition on the legend of Izanagi and Izanami, helping set up one of the sparse hints as to who's ''really'' pulling the strings]].
22nd Oct '16 5:21:27 AM UmbrellasWereAwesome
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* ''VideoGame/{{Persona 3}}'':
** It's easy to figure out that Ms. Toriumi, your homeroom teacher in [[spoiler:is actually Maya, the Hermit Social Link]] by virtue of the fact that she's the only teacher apart from Mr Edogawa with a character portrait. This is remedied in ''Persona 3 Portable'', when most significant NPCs (including the other teachers) got character portaits as well.
*** Interestingly, Mr Edogawa was never important to the plot or social link system ... in ''Persona 3''. In ''Persona 4'', however, he [[spoiler: gives exposition on the legend of Izanagi and Izanami, helping set up one of the sparse hints as to who's ''really'' pulling the strings]].
** On your first day at school, you can talk to several students as you make your way to the teachers office, some who have portraits and some who don't. Guess which ones end up being Social Links. (Though none of them are actually named until you start said Social Links)
* In ''Persona 3 Portable'' you can have a strange conversation with a man who, while lacking a name (he's called "Man Drinking Alone", has his own CharacterPortrait. It was immediately assumed this man was an EarlyBirdCameo for an upcoming Atlus title. Cue cries of IKnewIt when the game ''VideoGame/{{Catherine}}'' was revealed, starring the aforementioned man (whose real name is Vincent).
* In ''VideoGame/{{Persona 4}}'', a rather strange looking kid hits on Yukiko rather early in the game, and judging from his character portrait, you get the distinct impression that he becomes important later (and he does; he's a [[spoiler:minor villain by the name of Mitsuo Kubo]]). The same could be said for Taro Nametame, who is introduced early on and, aside from having an affair with one of the victims, has nothing to do with the story until you find out [[spoiler: he's the one who's been throwing people into the Midnight Channel]]. On the other hand, [[spoiler: the gas station attendant]] lacks both a name and character portrait until after the big reveal in the [[spoiler: true]] ending.

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* ''[[Franchise/ShinMegamiTenseiPersona Persona]]'':
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''VideoGame/{{Persona 3}}'':
** *** It's easy to figure out that Ms. Toriumi, your homeroom teacher in [[spoiler:is is actually Maya, [[spoiler:Maya, the Hermit Social Link]] Link]], by virtue of the fact that she's the only teacher apart from Mr Mr. Edogawa with a character portrait. This is remedied in ''Persona 3 Portable'', [[UpdatedRerelease Portable]]'', when most significant NPCs [=NPCs=] (including the other teachers) got character portaits portraits as well.
*** Interestingly, Mr despite having a character portrait, Mr. Edogawa was never important to the plot or social link system ... system ...in ''Persona 3''. In ''Persona 4'', ''VideoGame/{{Persona 4}}'', however, he [[spoiler: gives exposition on the legend of Izanagi and Izanami, helping set up one of the sparse hints as to who's ''really'' pulling the strings]].
** *** On your first day at school, you can talk to several students as you make your way to the teachers teacher's office, some who have portraits and some who don't. Guess which ones end up being Social Links. (Though Links (though none of them are actually named until you start said Social Links)
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In ''Persona 3 Portable'' [[UpdatedRerelease Portable]]'' you can have a strange conversation with a man who, while lacking a name (he's called "Man Drinking Alone", has his own CharacterPortrait. It was immediately assumed this man was an EarlyBirdCameo for an upcoming Atlus Creator/{{Atlus}} title. Cue cries of IKnewIt when the game ''VideoGame/{{Catherine}}'' was revealed, starring the aforementioned man (whose real name is Vincent).
* ** In ''VideoGame/{{Persona 4}}'', a rather strange looking kid hits on Yukiko rather early in the game, and judging from his character portrait, you get the distinct impression that he becomes important later (and he does; he's a [[spoiler:minor villain by the name of Mitsuo Kubo]]). The same could be said for Taro Nametame, who is introduced early on and, aside from having an affair with one of the victims, has nothing to do with the story until you find out [[spoiler: he's the one who's been throwing people into the Midnight Channel]]. On the other hand, [[spoiler: the Moel gas station attendant]] lacks both a name and character portrait until after the big reveal that [[spoiler:she's the GreaterScopeVillain]] in the [[spoiler: true]] ending.
18th Oct '16 8:20:56 PM nombretomado
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* In ''FriskyDingo'' the Xtacles were all FacelessMooks that always wore their helmets, although a couple were named. In the first episode the SpinOff ''{{Xtacles}}'' a bunch of said soldiers take off their helmets and are given independent names. [[spoiler: It's then downplayed when a bunch of them die anyway]].

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* In ''FriskyDingo'' ''WesternAnimation/FriskyDingo'' the Xtacles were all FacelessMooks that always wore their helmets, although a couple were named. In the first episode the SpinOff ''{{Xtacles}}'' a bunch of said soldiers take off their helmets and are given independent names. [[spoiler: It's then downplayed when a bunch of them die anyway]].
12th Oct '16 10:24:10 AM DoctorTItanX
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21st Sep '16 4:21:03 PM nombretomado
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* If the game gives characters a CharacterPortrait in their dialogue box (as ''BatenKaitos'' or ''VideoGame/ChronoCross'' do), then only important characters will have unique portraits (or even portraits at all).

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* If the game gives characters a CharacterPortrait in their dialogue box (as ''BatenKaitos'' ''VideoGame/BatenKaitos'' or ''VideoGame/ChronoCross'' do), then only important characters will have unique portraits (or even portraits at all).
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