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22nd Sep '17 10:18:55 PM JM1982
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* ComicBook/TheIncredibleHulk can frequently turn into this. While he generally dislikes the "puny humans" (and understandably so, given how often they [[BullyingADragon provoke him]] or [[{{Misblamed}} misblame him for things that are someone else's fault]]) he nonetheless ends up doing a lot of good by smashing villains whose plans threaten humanity, even if it's only because they [[YouWouldntLikeMeWhenImAngry made the mistake of pissing him off.]]



* In the ''Franchise/SuperMarioBros'' series, Wario is willing to take on {{Evil Overlord}}s and the like, but only if there's treasure at the end of the road. Otherwise, he couldn't care less. WordOfGod notes that Wario doesn't really care about ''anything'', he just wants to keep doing what he wants.

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* In the ''Franchise/SuperMarioBros'' series, more particularly in his own spin-off games, Wario is willing to take on {{Evil Overlord}}s and the like, frequently ends up doing a lot of good in defeating various bad guys, but he usually only if there's treasure at the end of the road.does it when he's competing with them for treasure. Otherwise, he couldn't care less. WordOfGod notes that Wario doesn't really care about ''anything'', he just wants to keep doing what he wants.
12th Sep '17 6:24:44 PM SunGuyThe3rd
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** Megumu initially wants to become a hero to impress his ex-girlfriend.

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** Megumu initially wants to become a hero to impress his ex-girlfriend.''
* ''Manga/MyHeroAcademia'': Endeavor is the second-highest ranked hero in Japan, only surpassed by All Might. He's also a petty bastard with an obsessive desire to become Number 1, and abused his wife and children in order to reach that goal through his "favorite son", Shouto. Of course, most of the world is blissfully ignorant of his failings as a husband and father, so they just see him as an extremely efficient superhero with a giant stick up his ass.
8th Sep '17 5:26:11 AM nighttrainfm
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* In ''VideoGame/KingdomHeartsII'', Maleficent, while still not "good" in any sense of the word, is allied with the heroes in a common goal.

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* In ''VideoGame/KingdomHeartsII'', Maleficent, while still not "good" in any sense of the word, is allied with the heroes in a common goal.goal of stopping the Organization, and helps the good guys out at least twice.
30th Aug '17 12:29:33 PM gophergiggles
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* Rick on ''WesternAnimation/RickAndMorty'' is a very, ''very'' extreme example, bordering on VillainProtagonist. He's a reckless, insane StrawNihilist who is blatantly emotionally abusive towards his family and has been repeatedly shown to always be only one night of heavy drinking away from turning into a full-blown OmnicidalManiac. Even so, he has a handful of PetTheDog moments and fights even more evil beings often enough to avoid being an outright villain.

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* Rick on ''WesternAnimation/RickAndMorty'' is a very, ''very'' extreme example, bordering on VillainProtagonist. He's a reckless, insane StrawNihilist who is blatantly emotionally abusive towards his family and has been repeatedly shown to always be only one night of heavy drinking away from turning into a full-blown OmnicidalManiac. Even so, he has a handful of PetTheDog moments and fights even more evil beings often enough to avoid being an outright villain.villain: it helps that he ''clearly'' [[PapaWolf cares very deeply for Morty]], no matter how much he denies it or abuses Morty in the process.
27th Aug '17 12:35:36 PM ading
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* Rick on ''WesternAnimation/RickAndMorty'' is a very, ''very'' extreme example, bordering on VillainProtagonist. He's a reckless, insane StrawNihilist who is blatantly emotionally abusive towards his family and has been repeatedly shown to always be only one night of heavy drinking away from turning into a full-blown mass murderer. Even so, he has a handful of PetTheDog moments and fights even more evil beings often enough to avoid being an outright villain.

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* Rick on ''WesternAnimation/RickAndMorty'' is a very, ''very'' extreme example, bordering on VillainProtagonist. He's a reckless, insane StrawNihilist who is blatantly emotionally abusive towards his family and has been repeatedly shown to always be only one night of heavy drinking away from turning into a full-blown mass murderer.OmnicidalManiac. Even so, he has a handful of PetTheDog moments and fights even more evil beings often enough to avoid being an outright villain.
27th Aug '17 12:22:47 PM ading
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* Rick on ''WesternAnimation/RickAndMorty'' is a very, ''very'' extreme example, bordering on VillainProtagonist. He's a reckless, insane StrawNihilist who is blatantly emotionally abusive towards his family and has been repeatedly shown to always be only one night of heavy drinking away from turning into a full-blown mass murderer. Even so, he has a handful of PetTheDog moments and fights even worse villains often enough to avoid being an outright villain.

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* Rick on ''WesternAnimation/RickAndMorty'' is a very, ''very'' extreme example, bordering on VillainProtagonist. He's a reckless, insane StrawNihilist who is blatantly emotionally abusive towards his family and has been repeatedly shown to always be only one night of heavy drinking away from turning into a full-blown mass murderer. Even so, he has a handful of PetTheDog moments and fights even worse villains more evil beings often enough to avoid being an outright villain.
27th Aug '17 12:22:20 PM ading
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* WesternAnimation/DaffyDuck is usually portrayed this way when he's the hero. Usually his heroism is motivated either by glory, money, or because the true villain is a threat to him personally, and in the last case it's often made clear that he wouldn't do it if it were anyone else who were in danger. He tends not to care about the damage his "heroic" antics cause as long as he gets what he wants, he is perfectly willing to screw those around him over for even the slightest benefit to himself.

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* WesternAnimation/DaffyDuck is usually portrayed this way when he's the hero. Usually his heroism is motivated either by glory, money, or because the true villain is a threat to him personally, and in the last case it's often made clear that he wouldn't do it if it were anyone else who were in danger. He tends not to care about the damage his "heroic" antics cause as long as he gets what he wants, and he is perfectly willing to screw those around him over for even the slightest benefit to himself.himself. All of these traits carry over to his incarnation as ''WesternAnimation/DuckDodgers''.


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* Rick on ''WesternAnimation/RickAndMorty'' is a very, ''very'' extreme example, bordering on VillainProtagonist. He's a reckless, insane StrawNihilist who is blatantly emotionally abusive towards his family and has been repeatedly shown to always be only one night of heavy drinking away from turning into a full-blown mass murderer. Even so, he has a handful of PetTheDog moments and fights even worse villains often enough to avoid being an outright villain.
10th Aug '17 12:15:54 PM DragonRanger
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* ''Series/KamenRiderExAid'': Taiga Hanaya/Kamen Rider Snipe, who fights against the Bugsters not because he cares about the patients or their lives. He just wants to collect all the Gashats so can he destroy all the Bugsters and get his revenge on Graphite. He also doesn't care about who gets hurt because of his actions.

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* ''Series/KamenRiderExAid'': ''Series/KamenRiderExAid'':
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Taiga Hanaya/Kamen Rider Snipe, who fights against the Bugsters not because he cares about the patients or their lives. He just wants to collect all the Gashats so can he destroy all the Bugsters and get his revenge on Graphite. He also doesn't care about who gets hurt because of his actions. However, he later reveals HiddenDepths and shows that this is mostly just a JerkassFacade.
** Former BigBad Kuroto Dan/Kamen Rider Genm eventually joins the heroes, but not out of a change of heart. He's upset because his father Masamune, the new Bad, has hijacked his scheme and diverted it away from the purpose he intended it for, and taken credit for all his hard work. There are also bits of the Relationship and Force motivations there, as he feels a familial connection to Poppy (for reasons that are complicated to explain here) and can now be trapped in a Bugvisor if he starts acting up.
7th Aug '17 7:15:02 PM merotoker
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* TeamPet Iggy from the Stardust Crusaders arc of ''Manga/JojosBizarreAdventure''. He has absolutely no desire to help the others, runs at the first sign of trouble, and the only reason he's even tagging along is because the Speedwagon Foundation forced him to. His only real heroic moments come near the end of the arc with his fights against Pet Shop and Vanilla Ice.

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* TeamPet Iggy from the Stardust Crusaders arc of ''Manga/JojosBizarreAdventure''.''Manga/JoJosBizarreAdventure''. He has absolutely no desire to help the others, runs at the first sign of trouble, and the only reason he's even tagging along is because the Speedwagon Foundation forced him to. His only real heroic moments come near the end of the arc with his fights against Pet Shop and Vanilla Ice.



* ''Manga/BlastOfTempest'':

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* ''Manga/BlastOfTempest'':''Manga/ZetsuenNoTempest'':



* The vast majority of Gaulish villagers in ''ComicBook/{{Asterix}}'' are like this. They're only heroic at all because they're fighting against TheEmpire, which they mostly just pick on, usually for fun, rather than make any serious rebellion against them. They have two reasons for fighting them -- they love fighting (even turning on each other when Romans aren't available) and they're incredibly set in their ways, usually even when the Roman way is better. They started out intended more as a RagtagBunchOfMisfits LaResistance, but got [[{{Flanderization}} Flanderized]] into this mostly because it's funnier. Asterix, Obelix and Getafix are much nicer people, though.

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* The vast majority of Gaulish villagers in ''ComicBook/{{Asterix}}'' are like this. They're only heroic at all because they're fighting against TheEmpire, which they mostly just pick on, usually for fun, rather than make any serious rebellion against them. They have two reasons for fighting them -- they love fighting (even turning on each other when Romans aren't available) and they're incredibly set in their ways, usually even when the Roman way is better. They started out intended more as a RagtagBunchOfMisfits LaResistance, but got [[{{Flanderization}} Flanderized]] {{Flanderiz|ation}}ed into this mostly because it's funnier. Asterix, Obelix and Getafix are much nicer people, though.



* The Beyonder in Secret Wars II tried being a superhero for a while, just for the heck of it. He quickly got bored and decided instead that he wanted to [[OmnicidalManiac destroy everything]].

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* The Beyonder in Secret Wars II ''ComicBook/SecretWarsII'' tried being a superhero for a while, just for the heck of it. He quickly got bored and decided instead that he wanted to [[OmnicidalManiac destroy everything]].



* ''FanFic/{{Fade}}'': [[spoiler:Beyond Birthday]]. The only reason he bothers opposing Kira is because he hates L, who has become Kira in his attempts to stop the original's rise to power. It's implied that if L ''hadn't'' become Kira, he would've sided with the original instead just to get back at L. [[spoiler:Once Light enters the picture and becomes L's partner (mainly due to a combination of attraction and StockholmSyndrome), Beyond's motivation goes from "stop L" to "stop L and save Light" in quick fashion]].

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* ''FanFic/{{Fade}}'': [[spoiler:Beyond Birthday]]. The only reason he bothers opposing Kira is because he hates L, who has become Kira in his attempts to stop the original's rise to power. It's implied that if L ''hadn't'' become Kira, he would've sided with the original instead just to get back at L. [[spoiler:Once Light enters the picture and becomes L's partner (mainly due to a combination of attraction and StockholmSyndrome), Beyond's motivation goes from "stop L" to "stop L and save Light" in quick fashion]].fashion.]]



* Lampshaded and played for laughs in ''Film/MysteryMen''. Captain Amazing is constantly viewed by the residents of Champion City as a great hero, even though he is often rude, inconsiderate, thoughtless, and only interested in making money off his powers. He even brings about the events of the film, unwittingly, by getting his archnemesis released from prison so he can fight someone worthy (and save his sponsorship deals), eventually getting himself killed stupidly in the process. The audience isn't ''supposed'' to like him. Their sympathies instead lie with the title characters, who are the underdogs of the superhero world; most of them have crappy superpowers (such as only turning invisible when literally nobody is watching...not even himself), and they're respected by next to nobody in the city they've sworn to protect.

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* Lampshaded and played for laughs in ''Film/MysteryMen''. Captain Amazing is constantly viewed by the residents of Champion City as a great hero, even though he is often rude, inconsiderate, thoughtless, and only interested in making money off his powers. He even brings about the events of the film, unwittingly, by getting his archnemesis released from prison so he can fight someone worthy (and save his sponsorship deals), eventually getting himself killed stupidly in the process. The audience isn't ''supposed'' to like him. Their sympathies instead lie with the title characters, who are the underdogs of the superhero world; most of them have [[WhatKindOfLamePowerIsHeartAnyway crappy superpowers superpowers]] (such as only turning invisible when literally nobody is watching...not even himself), and they're respected by next to nobody in the city they've sworn to protect.



* Amos from ''Series/TheExpanse'' (who is very reminiscent of a heavily {{flanderized}} Jayne) only seems to stick around with the others out of personal loyalty and/or UnrequitedLove for Naomi and because he has nowhere else to go, at least in Season 1.

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* Amos from ''Series/TheExpanse'' (who is very reminiscent of a heavily {{flanderized}} {{Flanderiz|ation}}ed Jayne) only seems to stick around with the others out of personal loyalty and/or UnrequitedLove for Naomi and because he has nowhere else to go, at least in Season 1.



* ''CastlevaniaLordsOfShadow'': Said Lords of Shadow are the EnemyWithout of the original heroes of the Brotherhood, and have terrorized the Old World with hordes of monsters. However, due to a combination of MutuallyAssuredDestruction and fear of the REAL demons clawing their way from Hell, they've been forced to become the secret guardians of Earth - the license to kill anyone for fun is just a small bonus. Unfortunately, Zobek got sick of this détente with his bickering siblings and decided to take the fight to Hell for LevelGrinding... and got possessed by Satan for his trouble.

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* ''CastlevaniaLordsOfShadow'': ''VideoGame/CastlevaniaLordsOfShadow'': Said Lords of Shadow are the EnemyWithout of the original heroes of the Brotherhood, and have terrorized the Old World with hordes of monsters. However, due to a combination of MutuallyAssuredDestruction and fear of the REAL demons clawing their way from Hell, they've been forced to become the secret guardians of Earth - the license to kill anyone for fun is just a small bonus. Unfortunately, Zobek got sick of this détente with his bickering siblings and decided to take the fight to Hell for LevelGrinding... and got possessed by Satan for his trouble.



* Lara Croft in the Playstation ''Franchise/TombRaider'' series is an archaeologist that is willing to kill anyone who stands in her way and destroy priceless objects as long as she can collect the fabled artifacts she had researched on. The only reason Lara can be considered "good" is because she's usually trying to get to the artifacts with power before the villains do so that they can't abuse them. If Lara does manage to work with someone, she only helps them as long as it helps her reach her goal. By ''Chronicles'' and ''Angel of Darkness'', Lara becomes a total bitch to everyone. The Crystal Dynamics reboots scale her back a bit. In the first reboot ([[VideoGame/TombRaiderLegend ''Legend'']], ''[[VideoGame/TombRaiderAnniversary Anniversary]]'', and ''[[VideoGame/TombRaiderUnderworld Underworld]]'') Lara's motivations are more personal, and in ''Anniversary'' she shows scruples against killing other people (while she seems to have given them up in ''Legend'' and ''Underworld'', ''Legend'' at least introduces the mooks by having Lara overhear a conversation where they discuss their orders to kill her on sight). The second [[VideoGame/TombRaider2013 reboot]] features a [[ActionSurvivor younger, less experienced Lara trying desperately to survive]].

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* Lara Croft in the Playstation UsefulNotes/PlayStation ''Franchise/TombRaider'' series is an archaeologist that is willing to kill anyone who stands in her way and destroy priceless objects as long as she can collect the fabled artifacts she had researched on. The only reason Lara can be considered "good" is because she's usually trying to get to the artifacts with power before the villains do so that they can't abuse them. If Lara does manage to work with someone, she only helps them as long as it helps her reach her goal. By ''Chronicles'' ''[[VideoGame/TombRaiderChronicles Chronicles]]'' and ''Angel ''[[VideoGame/TombRaiderTheAngelOfDarkness Angel of Darkness'', Darkness]]'', Lara becomes a total bitch to everyone. The Crystal Dynamics reboots scale her back a bit. In the first reboot ([[VideoGame/TombRaiderLegend ''Legend'']], (''[[VideoGame/TombRaiderLegend Legend]]'', ''[[VideoGame/TombRaiderAnniversary Anniversary]]'', and ''[[VideoGame/TombRaiderUnderworld Underworld]]'') Lara's motivations are more personal, and in ''Anniversary'' she shows scruples against killing other people (while she seems to have given them up in ''Legend'' and ''Underworld'', ''Legend'' at least introduces the mooks by having Lara overhear a conversation where they discuss their orders to kill her on sight). The second [[VideoGame/TombRaider2013 reboot]] features a [[ActionSurvivor younger, less experienced Lara trying desperately to survive]].



* Sentinel Prime from ''WesternAnimation/TransformersAnimated'' is technically on the side of the good guys, being a member of the high-ranked Autobot Elite Guard, but is a pompous, arrogant, incompetent GloryHound JerkAss with [[FantasticRacism a truly appalling level of anti-organic bigotry]]. He hates the Decepticons, but that's about the only thing "heroic" about him. He manages to get even ''worse'' as we learn more about him, and discover the reason for his hatred for [[NiceGuy Optimus Prime]]: [[spoiler: way back when they were both cadets together, they had a female friend, Elita-1, until one day Sentinel and Elita-1 talked Optimus into making a trip to a forbidden, organic-inhabited planet to search for the wreck of a Decepticon battleship and retrieve its lost stockpile of Energon. Despite the fact that, as he repeatedly pointed out, this was both illegal and highly dangerous, Optimus eventually went along, mostly to keep them out of trouble. As expected, things went disastrously wrong when they were attacked by a colony of {{Giant Spider}}s and the Energon stockpile blew up; Optimus managed to drag Sentinel to safety, but Elita-1 was presumably killed. This got them both courtmartialed, but because Optimus took all the blame, only he was expelled from the Elite Guard Academy. Sentinel [[NeverMyFault never admitted he was the one who led them to the planet, nor stopped blaming Optimus for Elita-1's death]]. And just when you think he couldn't get worse, when he finally meets Blackarachnia, the transmutated Elita-1, he is so disgusted by her technorganic state that he outright tells her that she should have ''killed herself'' rather than living like this, making Blackarachnia, herself no fan of her state, protest that it's not ''that'' bad. He truly cements his JerkWithAHeartOfJerk status when he promptly attacks her and tries to kill her himself!]]

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* Sentinel Prime from ''WesternAnimation/TransformersAnimated'' is technically on the side of the good guys, being a member of the high-ranked Autobot Elite Guard, but is a pompous, arrogant, incompetent GloryHound JerkAss with [[FantasticRacism a truly appalling level of anti-organic bigotry]]. He hates the Decepticons, but that's about the only thing "heroic" about him. He manages to get even ''worse'' as we learn more about him, and discover the reason for his hatred for [[NiceGuy Optimus Prime]]: [[spoiler: way back when they were both cadets together, they had a female friend, Elita-1, until one day Sentinel and Elita-1 talked Optimus into making a trip to a forbidden, organic-inhabited planet to search for the wreck of a Decepticon battleship and retrieve its lost stockpile of Energon. Despite the fact that, as he repeatedly pointed out, this was both illegal and highly dangerous, Optimus eventually went along, mostly to keep them out of trouble. As expected, things went disastrously wrong when they were attacked by a colony of {{Giant Spider}}s and the Energon stockpile blew up; Optimus managed to drag Sentinel to safety, but Elita-1 was presumably killed. This got them both courtmartialed, but because Optimus took all the blame, only he was expelled from the Elite Guard Academy. Sentinel [[NeverMyFault never admitted he was the one who led them to the planet, nor stopped blaming Optimus for Elita-1's death]]. And just when you think he couldn't get worse, when he finally meets Blackarachnia, the transmutated Elita-1, he is so disgusted by her technorganic state that he outright tells her that she should have ''killed herself'' rather than living like this, making Blackarachnia, herself no fan of her state, protest that it's not ''that'' bad. He truly cements his JerkWithAHeartOfJerk status when he promptly attacks her and tries to kill her himself!]]himself]]!
21st Jul '17 6:13:23 PM Gamecubist
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* ''LightNovel/MasouGakuenHXH'': As of Volume 8, [[MadScientist Nayuta Hida]] has joined the protagonists in their battle against the [[PhysicalGod Deus Ex Machina]]. Nayuta has no regrets of what she has done for her [[AGodAmI pursuit of godhood]], such as the way she treated her children, and makes no attempts to redeem herself. For their part, [[TheHero Kizuna]] and the others know this and only accept her help because she is the best chance they have against the Deus Ex Machina.

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* ''LightNovel/MasouGakuenHXH'': As of Volume 8, [[MadScientist Nayuta Hida]] has joined the protagonists in their battle against the [[PhysicalGod Deus Ex Machina]]. Nayuta has no regrets of what she has done for her [[AGodAmI pursuit of godhood]], such as the way she treated her children, and makes no attempts to redeem herself. For their part, [[TheHero Kizuna]] and the others know this and ''Manga/BlastOfTempest'':
** Mahiro states that his
only accept her help because she goal is avenging his sister's death, and that his saving the best chance they have against world is incidental to that. [[TookALevelInKindness Later on, he does seem to care about the Deus Ex Machina.world's well-being.]]
** Megumu initially wants to become a hero to impress his ex-girlfriend.


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* ''LightNovel/MasouGakuenHXH'': As of Volume 8, [[MadScientist Nayuta Hida]] has joined the protagonists in their battle against the [[PhysicalGod Deus Ex Machina]]. Nayuta has no regrets of what she has done for her [[AGodAmI pursuit of godhood]], such as the way she treated her children, and makes no attempts to redeem herself. For their part, [[TheHero Kizuna]] and the others know this and only accept her help because she is the best chance they have against the Deus Ex Machina.
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