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14th May '17 9:40:58 AM Jake
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* ''Series/{{Firefly}}'': Jayne is working for Mal only because Mal offered him more money and his own bunk. When given the offer he immediately shot the mercenaries he was currently working for and sided with Mal. He makes it clear throughout the series that he would do the same again if a better offer came along... Maybe.
** Arguably this can be applied to all the crew (with the exception of Book, whose motivations are unclear though his loyalty less so), who are on the crew for either financial gain or survival. Though there are moments of sincere heroism that even Mal can't ignore - such as returning the medicine they stole (only Jayne objects), helping out the whores (which only Jayne agrees to when he realises it'll get him free whore sex), and risking everything to out the secret behind the Reavers (even Jayne agrees to this).

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* ''Series/{{Firefly}}'': Jayne is working for Mal only because Mal offered him more money and his own bunk. When given the offer he immediately shot the mercenaries he was currently working for and sided with Mal. He makes it clear throughout the series that he would do the same again if a better offer came along... Maybe.
Maybe. The big lug goes through a ''lot'' of CharacterDevelopment in thirteen episodes and one BigDamnMovie and shows regular signs of HiddenDepths.
** Arguably this can be applied to all the crew (with the exception of Book, whose motivations are unclear though his loyalty less so), who are on the crew for either financial gain or survival. Though there are moments of sincere heroism that even Mal can't ignore - such as returning the medicine they stole (only Jayne objects), helping out the whores (which only Jayne agrees to when he realises it'll get him free whore sex), and risking everything to out the secret behind the Reavers (even Jayne agrees to this).this).
* Amos from ''Series/TheExpanse'' (who is very reminiscent of a heavily {{flanderized}} Jayne) only seems to stick around with the others out of personal loyalty and/or UnrequitedLove for Naomi and because he has nowhere else to go, at least in Season 1.
10th May '17 2:54:42 PM VanHohenheimOfXerxes
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* [[spoiler:Severus Snape]] in the ''Literature/HarryPotter'' books is needlessly cruel to nearly everyone and only works for the good guys as part of a complicated {{revenge}} scheme.

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* [[spoiler:Severus Snape]] in the ''Literature/HarryPotter'' books is needlessly cruel to nearly everyone and only works for the good guys as part of a complicated {{revenge}} scheme. And he only wants to avenge [[spoiler:Lily Evans Potter's]] death because of his one-sided {{yandere}}-like obsession with her.
20th Apr '17 1:58:34 PM intastiel
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* Reaver from ''VideoGame/FableII'' and ''[[VideoGame/FableIII III]]''. He tries to double cross the hero at least twice and only helps the hero because [[spoiler: the BigBad proceeds to double cross him when Reaver tries to turn the hero over to him]].

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* In the ''Franchise/{{Fable}}'' games:
** In ''VideoGame/FableI'', the Heroes' Guild espouses this mindset, with its Guildmaster teaching that each Hero should strive for greatness but choose their own moral path. The Hero of Oakvale might pursue noble quests for [[PunchClockHero money]], [[GlorySeeker fame]], {{Revenge}} against his family's killers, [[BloodKnight the thrill of combat]], or [[ItAmusedMe personal amusement]] -- or turn evil for any of the same reasons.
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Reaver from ''VideoGame/FableII'' and ''[[VideoGame/FableIII III]]''. He tries to double cross the hero at least twice and only helps the hero because [[spoiler: the BigBad proceeds to double cross him when Reaver tries to turn the hero over to him]].
25th Mar '17 3:34:40 AM MagBas
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* The Tau of ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}}'' are referred to as the "Good guys" of the game. And indeed, they are nicer than many factions. Like the [[AbsoluteXenophobe Imperium]] or [[DarkIsEvil Dark Eldar]]. But even the "Good Guys" are not without their dark side. Including sterilization of human defectors, concentration camps and suspiciously communist mindset.
25th Mar '17 12:21:09 AM TroperBeDoper
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* The Tau of ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}}'' are referred to as the "Good guys" of the game. And indeed, they are nicer than many factions. Like the [[AbsoluteXenophobe Imperium]] or [[DarkIsEvil Dark Eldar]]. But even the "Good Guys" are not without their dark side. Including sterilization of human defectors, concentration camps and suspiciously communist mindset.
23rd Mar '17 8:03:58 PM Ulkomaalainen
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* Nagash is one of ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer}}s'' biggest douchbags, and likely the single most evil person in the setting. He still has a vested interest against Chaos destroying the world however, and so for a good chunk of the lore he's technically been a "good guy". The quote marks are very much justified, and in TabletopGame/WarhammerAgeOfSigmar it's no real surprise when he finally gives in to his baser urges. It's fair to say he was only prevented from betraying everyone in TabletopGame/WarhammerTheEndTimes because one of the other "Why are we friends with this guy again?" characters betrayed ''him'' before he had the chance.

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* Nagash is one of ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer}}s'' biggest douchbags, douchebags, and likely the single most evil person in the setting. He still has a vested interest against Chaos destroying the world however, and so for a good chunk of the lore he's technically been a "good guy". The quote marks are very much justified, and in TabletopGame/WarhammerAgeOfSigmar it's no real surprise when he finally gives in to his baser urges. It's fair to say he was only prevented from betraying everyone in TabletopGame/WarhammerTheEndTimes because one of the other "Why are we friends with this guy again?" characters betrayed ''him'' before he had the chance.
22nd Mar '17 10:02:21 PM TroperBeDoper
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* Nagash is one of TabletopGame/Warhammer biggest douchbags, and likely the single most evil person in the setting. He still has a vested interest against Chaos destroying the world however, and so for a good chunk of the lore he's technically been a "good guy". The quote marks are very much justified, and in TabletopGame/WarhammerAgeOfSigmar it's no real surprise when he finally gives in to his baser urges. It's fair to say he was only prevented from betraying everyone in TabletopGame/WarhammerTheEndTimes because one of the other "Why are we friends with this guy again?" characters betrayed ''him'' before he had the chance.

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* Nagash is one of TabletopGame/Warhammer ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer}}s'' biggest douchbags, and likely the single most evil person in the setting. He still has a vested interest against Chaos destroying the world however, and so for a good chunk of the lore he's technically been a "good guy". The quote marks are very much justified, and in TabletopGame/WarhammerAgeOfSigmar it's no real surprise when he finally gives in to his baser urges. It's fair to say he was only prevented from betraying everyone in TabletopGame/WarhammerTheEndTimes because one of the other "Why are we friends with this guy again?" characters betrayed ''him'' before he had the chance.
26th Feb '17 11:35:08 AM Nyame
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* ''FanFic/{{Fade}}'': [[spoiler:Beyond Birthday]]. The only reason he bothers opposing Kira is because he hates L, who has become Kira in his attempts to stop the original's rise to power. It's implied that if L ''hadn't'' become Kira, he would've sided with the original instead just to get back at L.

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* ''FanFic/{{Fade}}'': [[spoiler:Beyond Birthday]]. The only reason he bothers opposing Kira is because he hates L, who has become Kira in his attempts to stop the original's rise to power. It's implied that if L ''hadn't'' become Kira, he would've sided with the original instead just to get back at L. [[spoiler:Once Light enters the picture and becomes L's partner (mainly due to a combination of attraction and StockholmSyndrome), Beyond's motivation goes from "stop L" to "stop L and save Light" in quick fashion]].
19th Feb '17 6:04:38 PM Illyas
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* The entire party in ''VideoGame/TalesOfBerseria'' except for Laphicet and Eleanor are fighting for personal reasons instead of some noble cause. Velvet is driven by revenge, Rokurou wants to kill someone from his past, Eizen's target is part of the enemy group, and Magilou's along for the ride because she's bored and wants to see how things turn out.
2nd Feb '17 10:28:59 PM CountDorku
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* Most of the Vault Hunters in ''VideoGame/{{Borderlands 2}}'' are not particularly upstanding people. Axton is motivated by money, [[GloryHound glory]] and the chance of a worthy enemy; [[TheSpook insofar as anything about Zer0 is nailed down]], it's that he likes to kill things; Gaige isn't all the way sane; and Krieg is [[TheBerserker a rampaging murder machine]].
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