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23rd May '17 7:22:48 PM LinTaylor
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* Justified in ''VideoGame/QuestForGlory'' series, in which every game takes place in a totally new setting, where your heroism in the previous games is known only to a few people, if any. The second game somewhat averts this trope: the people who you helped in the first game provide you with free room and board at their inn, and the merchants will give you the items you need to subdue the Elementals for free, but only if you ask at the appropriate time (so they won't just hand you over a brass lamp at any random point just because you asked for it, but if there's a fire elemental rampaging and you explain that you need it to capture it, they'll do so).

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* Justified in ''VideoGame/QuestForGlory'' series, in which every game takes place in a totally new setting, where your heroism in the previous games is known only to a few people, if any. The second game somewhat averts this trope: the people who you helped in the first game provide you with free room and board at their inn, and the merchants will give you the items you need to subdue the Elementals for free, but only if you ask at the appropriate time (so they won't just hand you over a brass lamp at any random point just because you asked for it, but if there's a fire elemental rampaging and you explain that you need it to capture it, they'll do so). The exception to this is Issur the blacksmith, but then it's well-established that he's a {{Jerkass}}.
7th May '17 10:27:38 PM infernape612
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* As seen on ''WesternAnimation/{{Cyberchase}}'' in the episode The Snelfu Snafu:Part 2 when the Cybermates had to pay full price for parts to locate the Encryptor Chip.

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* As seen on ''WesternAnimation/{{Cyberchase}}'' in the episode The Snelfu Snafu:Part Snafu: Part 2 when the Cybermates had to pay full price for parts to locate the Encryptor Chip.
7th May '17 10:25:57 PM infernape612
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* "Smuggler" in ''VideoGame/DeusEx'' won't give you explosives unless you pay an absurd amount of money for them, even if you've helped him out before, and even though he knows you need them to [[spoiler:blow up a superfreighter full of enough of an incurable virus to infect the entire North American continent!]]. The exception is the first time you're in Hell's Kitchen, where he gives you a discount if you rescue his friend from MJ12.

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* "Smuggler" in ''VideoGame/DeusEx'' won't give you explosives unless you pay an absurd amount of money for them, even if you've helped him out before, and even though he knows you need them to [[spoiler:blow up a superfreighter full of enough of an incurable virus to infect the entire North American continent!]]. The exception is the first time you're in Hell's Kitchen, where he gives you a discount if you rescue his friend from MJ12.[=MJ12=].



** There's also a LIMB clinic office on Panchaea, where the shop keeper has barricaded herself against the crazed augs. She mentions that she'd ''like'' to give you a discount but the whole thing is based off a computer she cant change, so you're still charged full price for medicine, Typhoon ammo, and upgrade kits.

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** There's also a LIMB clinic office on Panchaea, where the shop keeper has barricaded herself against the crazed augs. She mentions that she'd ''like'' to give you a discount but the whole thing is based off a computer she cant can't change, so you're still charged full price for medicine, Typhoon ammo, and upgrade kits.



** ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyV'' sort of subverted this by having the shopkeeper in Bartz's home town give a discount (which is very appreciated when the single revival item in the game costs 1000 gold). But only because it's Bartz's hometown.
** ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVI'' subverted it at Figaro Castle, where the shopkeepers will refuse to charge Edgar (the king) or Sabin (his brother). However, both characters insist on paying, pointing out that the shopkeepers still have to earn a living. (If Edgar is your party leader, they still give you a 50% discount, though.)

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** ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyV'' sort of subverted subverts this by having the shopkeeper in Bartz's home town give a discount (which is very appreciated when the single revival item in the game costs 1000 gold). But only because it's Bartz's hometown.
** ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVI'' subverted subverts it at Figaro Castle, where the shopkeepers will refuse to charge Edgar (the king) or Sabin (his brother). However, both characters insist on paying, pointing out that the shopkeepers still have to earn a living. (If Edgar is your party leader, they still give you a 50% discount, though.)



--->Rin: I have faith in your victory.

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--->Rin: --->'''Rin''': I have faith in your victory.



** Averted in ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyXIII'', where all transactions are done via the internet, so vendors are not aware of your status as heroes, but even then as you're characterised as villains for the entirety of the plot, even if they knew your identity, they'd probably not want to sell to you, let alone give a discount. [[spoiler:Another aversion is that the Fal'Cie control all technology, and are revealed late game to be secretly manipulating you in your quest to destroy them (which they desire) but are prevented in their programming from aiding you directly (by lowering prices presumably) One late game vendor though has a message from the Fal'Cie wishing you luck!]]

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** Averted in ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyXIII'', where all transactions are done via the internet, so vendors are not aware of your status as heroes, but even then as you're characterised as villains for the entirety of the plot, even if they knew your identity, they'd probably not want to sell to you, let alone give a discount. [[spoiler:Another aversion is that the Fal'Cie control all technology, and are revealed late in the game to be secretly manipulating you in your quest to destroy them (which they desire) but are prevented in their programming from aiding you directly (by lowering prices presumably) prices, presumably). One late game vendor though has a message from the Fal'Cie wishing you luck!]] luck, though!]]



* ''Franchise/FireEmblem'' can get rather silly about this. ''[[VideoGame/FireEmblemTellius Radiant Dawn]]'' is especially bad near the end. [[spoiler: All of humanity is frozen in stone by an evil god. The only people still alive are your party, the enemies (brought back to life by the god to stop you) and a group of merchants following you.]] They STILL don't offer you a discount. The kicker? In a few cutscenes, they outright '''give''' you the [[InfinityPlusOneSword Infinity+1 Spellbooks]] they found lying around for free BECAUSE you're the last people alive and you're the only hope for everyone. Not the most consistent of merchants, these guys.

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* ''Franchise/FireEmblem'' can get rather silly about this. ''[[VideoGame/FireEmblemTellius ''[[VideoGame/FireEmblemRadiantDawn Radiant Dawn]]'' is especially bad near the end. [[spoiler: All of humanity is frozen in stone by an evil god. The only people still alive are your party, the enemies (brought back to life by the god to stop you) and a group of merchants following you.]] They STILL don't offer you a discount. The kicker? In a few cutscenes, they outright '''give''' you the [[InfinityPlusOneSword Infinity+1 Spellbooks]] they found lying around for free BECAUSE you're the last people alive and you're the only hope for everyone. Not the most consistent of merchants, these guys.



** Exacerbated in ''[[VideoGame/FireEmblemFates Fates]]'' where members of ''your own army'' are running the shops in [[PocketDimension My Castle]] yet still won't give Corrin the stuff for free. However discounts depends on the current keeper.

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** Exacerbated in ''[[VideoGame/FireEmblemFates Fates]]'' where members of ''your own army'' are running the shops in [[PocketDimension My Castle]] yet still won't give Corrin the stuff for free. However However, discounts depends on the current keeper.



* ''VideoGame/JustCause 2'': The Sloth Demon will make you pay a ton of money for anything (except transportation), even after [[spoiler: you find out he's Tom Sheldon in disguise.]] Granted, Panau is a dictatorship and it's money is worth less than crap (Rico says himself than putting a bullet in the head of a guy to obtain some info would be ''more expensive'' than greasing his palm with a handful of banknotes), but come on, 20 grand for a pistol?

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* ''VideoGame/JustCause 2'': The Sloth Demon will make you pay a ton of money for anything (except transportation), even after [[spoiler: you find out he's Tom Sheldon in disguise.]] Granted, Panau is a dictatorship and it's its money is worth less than crap (Rico says himself than that putting a bullet in the head of a guy to obtain some info would be ''more expensive'' than greasing his palm with a handful of banknotes), but come on, 20 grand for a pistol?
30th Apr '17 1:22:45 PM nombretomado
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* In the ''Franchise/HarvestMoon'' series, most of the marriageable bachelors and bachelorettes work in the area's shops, which are usually owned by their families. You won't get any kind of discount from their family's store if you marry one of them, ''even if your spouse is the one running the store''. This may be so that people would marry characters they liked, rather than just marrying the person that gives them the biggest discounts. It makes little sense in universe, but a lot of sense when you consider the implications of marrying someone for free cake at the bakery.
** Averted, however, in one of its spin-off series, ''Rune Factory'', you may get free fortune-telling or free bathing from your wife. Not that much, though.

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* In the ''Franchise/HarvestMoon'' ''VideoGame/HarvestMoon'' series, most of the marriageable bachelors and bachelorettes work in the area's shops, which are usually owned by their families. You won't get any kind of discount from their family's store if you marry one of them, ''even if your spouse is the one running the store''. This may be so that people would marry characters they liked, rather than just marrying the person that gives them the biggest discounts. It makes little sense in universe, but a lot of sense when you consider the implications of marrying someone for free cake at the bakery.
** Averted, however, in one of its spin-off series, ''Rune Factory'', ''VideoGame/RuneFactory'', you may get free fortune-telling or free bathing from your wife. Not that much, though.
28th Apr '17 11:35:43 AM gophergiggles
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** Played straight. None of the actual shops'll give you any credit. The shopkeeper in the DoomedHometown won't give a discount for the people who are going to save the world and whom he's known forever. Even "Marble's" charges you full price, even after you are identified as the Chosen's group and directly save the lives of both Chocolat and Cacao, the owners of the shop.

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** Played straight. None of the actual shops'll give you any credit. The shopkeeper in the DoomedHometown won't give a discount for the people who are going to save the world and whom he's known forever. Even "Marble's" charges you full price, even after you are identified as the Chosen's group and directly save the lives of both Chocolat and Cacao, the owners of the shop. This likely stems from the party not wanting to take advantage of people, as said group of impersonators are more than happy to ask for discounts that they actually get.
23rd Apr '17 12:40:15 PM nombretomado
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* In ''VideoGame/TearsToTiara'', the hero tries to persuade Epona the shopkeeper to give stuff for free, because he is fighting for world peace and everything. She responds by giving a lecture that healthy economy is necessary for world peace, and if she will give stuff for free, it will ruin the economy. Said economic theory is definitely anachronistic.

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* In ''VideoGame/TearsToTiara'', ''VisualNovel/TearsToTiara'', the hero tries to persuade Epona the shopkeeper to give stuff for free, because he is fighting for world peace and everything. She responds by giving a lecture that healthy economy is necessary for world peace, and if she will give stuff for free, it will ruin the economy. Said economic theory is definitely anachronistic.
26th Mar '17 11:48:43 PM SoloMael
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* Justified in ''Videogame/MegaManClassic''. Yes, it is annoying trying to find those screws, but Dr. Light kind of needs them if he's gonna build your equipment. ''VideoGame/MegaMan7'' even features a discount system in the form of finding Auto's missing bolt. No, the discount's not out of gratitude, but rather now that he's not impaired (he claims he has "a few screws loose" without it) he can make parts with less supplies as well as a few new ones.
* ''VideoGame/{{Fallout4}} zigzags on this trope. There are a few vendors who will give you very good prices based on your affiliations. For example, Tinker Tom will only sell to you if you're a member of the Railroad, but he offers excellent prices because he's also a member of the Railroad and trying to help you out. Unfortunately, he's got rather limited selection. Other vendors won't give you that great of discounts, even shops you've built yourself at your settlements (though the fact that you get a cut of the profits does help offset this).

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* Justified in ''Videogame/MegaManClassic''. Yes, it is annoying trying to find those screws, but Dr. Light kind of needs them if he's gonna build your equipment. ''VideoGame/MegaMan7'' even features a discount system in the form of finding Auto's missing bolt. No, the discount's not out of gratitude, but rather now that he's not impaired (he claims he has "a few screws loose" without it) he can make parts with less supplies as well as a few new ones.
* ''VideoGame/{{Fallout4}}
''VideoGame/{{Fallout 4}}'' zigzags on this trope. There are a few vendors who will give you very good prices based on your affiliations. For example, Tinker Tom will only sell to you if you're a member of the Railroad, but he offers excellent prices because he's also a member of the Railroad and trying to help you out. Unfortunately, he's got rather limited selection. Other vendors won't give you that great of discounts, even shops you've built yourself at your settlements (though the fact that you get a cut of the profits does help offset this).


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* Justified in ''Videogame/MegaManClassic''. Yes, it is annoying trying to find those screws, but Dr. Light kind of needs them if he's gonna build your equipment. ''VideoGame/MegaMan7'' even features a discount system in the form of finding Auto's missing bolt. No, the discount's not out of gratitude, but rather now that he's not impaired (he claims he has "a few screws loose" without it) he can make parts with less supplies as well as a few new ones.
9th Mar '17 11:42:39 AM DavidCowie
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* ''VideoGame/ValkyriaChronicles'' has a variation. Instead of buying better equipment for Squad 7, you pay the R&D fees to develop better equipment, which is then issued to them for no further charge. Let's not ask why one militia squad seems to be directing the entire R&D effort of the nation of Gallia.
9th Mar '17 8:55:11 AM BeerBaron
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* How much this trope applies in {{Tabletop RPG}}s tends to fall squarely on the shoulders of the GameMaster. By default, in games that feature them price lists for equipment, services, magic items, physical spell components and so on will be fairly standardized for convenience -- if a longsword costs 10 gold pieces, it costs that everywhere unless the GM specifically says otherwise. (Magic in particular often has the excuse that there's not really anyone to negotiate discounts ''with''. If casting a particular spell requires a ruby of a size and quality normally worth 500 gold pieces, then in a "realistic" economy the actual ruby in question might well cost the caster more or less in terms of raw ''money'' depending on circumstances... but they can't just use a "lesser" substitute.)
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[[folder:Tabletop Games]]
* How much this trope applies in {{Tabletop RPG}}s tends to fall squarely on the shoulders of the GameMaster. By default, in games that feature them price lists for equipment, services, magic items, physical spell components and so on will be fairly standardized for convenience -- if a longsword costs 10 gold pieces, it costs that everywhere unless the GM specifically says otherwise. (Magic in particular often has the excuse that there's not really anyone to negotiate discounts ''with''. If casting a particular spell requires a ruby of a size and quality normally worth 500 gold pieces, then in a "realistic" economy the actual ruby in question might well cost the caster more or less in terms of raw ''money'' depending on circumstances... but they can't just use a "lesser" substitute.)
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9th Mar '17 8:53:44 AM BeerBaron
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* Averted in ''VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIVOblivion'' and ''[[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIIIMorrowind Morrowind]]'', where completing quests raises reputation, and by extension, disposition of shopkeepers. Doing personal favors will be similarly rewarded.
** Similarly averted in ''[[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsVSkyrim Skyrim]]'', where doing favors for merchants (or simply being a regular customer for long enough) can allow you to take the cheap stuff off their shelves for free, when it would otherwise be considered stealing.

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* Averted ''Franchise/TheElderScrolls'':
** Downplayed
in ''VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIVOblivion'' and ''[[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIIIMorrowind Morrowind]]'', where Morrowind]]'' and ''[[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIVOblivion Oblivion]]''. Completing quests for merchants who offer them will increase those merchants' dispositions, which will lead to better prices. The same is also true for completing faction quests raises reputation, and by extension, will net you a disposition of shopkeepers. Doing personal favors will be similarly rewarded.
boost for merchants in that faction. In ''Morrowind'' in particular, after completing the main quest, you can mention your status as the world-saving hero in NPC conversations for a guaranteed disposition increase. Despite this, it's still not completely averted since no matter what you do, you'll never get those merchants to give away their stock or even offer you prices below the item's actual value.
** Similarly averted Downplayed in ''[[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsVSkyrim Skyrim]]'', where doing favors for merchants (or simply being a regular customer for long enough) can allow you to take the cheap stuff off their shelves for free, when it would otherwise be considered stealing.
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