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27th Aug '16 8:03:25 PM Monsund
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* Inverted in the ''[[Anime/TimeBokan Time Bokan Royal Revival OVA]]'' where the [[{{Anime/Gatchaman}} Gatchaman]] team walks into a noodle shop owned by [[{{Anime/Yatterman}} Boyacky]], make an order, eat it, and then not pay. When Boyacky asks for 380 yen(about 3 bucks), they just stare at him, while slurping up the last noodle, and walk out. [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wiKbQofZEFc Superheroes never pay!]]
10th Aug '16 1:48:13 PM REV6Pilot
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* In ''VideoGame/{{Metro 2033}}'', the only money is bartering with 5.57 ammo left over from before the apocalypse. The ammo is in perfect condition, and packs more punch than the homemade crap you usually find. Therefore, you must choose between supporting the economy and saving your ass in a firefight. There's even an Achievement (Scrooge) for hoarding 500 Bullets.

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* In ''VideoGame/{{Metro 2033}}'', the only money is bartering with 5.57 45mm ammo left over from before the apocalypse. The ammo is in perfect condition, and packs more punch than the homemade crap you usually find. Therefore, you must choose between supporting the economy and saving your ass in a firefight. There's even an Achievement (Scrooge) for hoarding 500 Bullets.
4th Jul '16 12:49:27 AM Morgenthaler
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* The weapon and item shops in ''VideoGame/DemonGaze'' not giving you discounts is one thing, since you're just another mercenary to them. Fran, on the other hand, in depending on you doing jobs only the Gazer can do, but will not discount you a cent. Booking more rooms so you can take more party members? Be prepared to cough up a cool 1000G (and [[TheObiWan Lorna]] had to cover the first one just so you wouldn't be flying solo). Fail to pay room and board the moment you step in the door after another life-threatening dungeon dive? She'll ''blacklist'' you from all but the most essential services until you settle. When Lancelorna warns you that money is SeriousBusiness to Fran, ''she's not kidding''.

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* The weapon and item shops in ''VideoGame/DemonGaze'' not giving you discounts is one thing, since you're just another mercenary to them. Fran, on the other hand, in depending on you doing jobs only the Gazer can do, but will not discount you a cent. Booking more rooms so you can take more party members? Be prepared to cough up a cool 1000G (and [[TheObiWan Lorna]] Lorna had to cover the first one just so you wouldn't be flying solo). Fail to pay room and board the moment you step in the door after another life-threatening dungeon dive? She'll ''blacklist'' you from all but the most essential services until you settle. When Lancelorna warns you that money is SeriousBusiness to Fran, ''she's not kidding''.
28th Jun '16 1:16:28 PM totoofze47
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** ''VideoGame/CastmlevaniaOrderOfEcclesia'' lampshades, justifies ''and'' subverts it. As much as Jacob the shop owner would like to give Shanoa what she needs for free, he still has to make a living, and considering the village is in the middle of nowhere with Shanoa being one of his only customers in a time of great unrest due to Dracula's imminent return, he can't afford to give her stuff for free. He does, however, give her a discount card after she purchases enough stuff in his shop.
24th Jun '16 5:36:51 PM StFan
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[[folder:Anime & Manga]]
* ''The Daichis: Earth's Defense Family'' are enlisted to protect the world from danger, and given all sorts of cool weapons to do it with. But they have to '''pay''' each time they use them. And the cost of using their weapons is usually much more than the reward. And they weren't warned about this ahead of time.
* Also happens in most any bounty hunter anime, from ''Anime/CowboyBebop'' to ''Manga/GunsmithCats''. You break it, you bought it. Used mostly as an excuse to keep the heroes working by remaining in debt for the period of the show and sometimes past the ending as well.
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[[folder:Comic Books]]
* Marvel's ComicBook/{{Alias}} featured Comicbook/JessicaJones complaining that she still had to pay for a pack of cigarettes after saving the shopkeeper from a robbery.
* Similar to the above, a story in SpiderManUnlimited featured the titular webslinger stopping by a take out restaurant while in costume, where he watched the store owner give a pair of cops their meal for free. After asking if there was a discount for being a member of the Avengers he was informed that for him, everything on the menu was full price.
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[[folder:Literature]]
* OlderThanSteam: At chapter XVI, the Innkeeper asks ''Literature/DonQuixote'' for his pay. Don Quixote answers him that ThereShouldBeALaw that forces HospitalityForHeroes on [[KnightErrant Knights Errant]] like himself:
--> "I have little to do with that," replied the innkeeper; "pay me what you owe me, and let us have no more talk of chivalry, for all I care about is to get my money."
* {{Subverted|Trope}} in ''Literature/ThreeHeartsAndThreeLions''. It appears that one character is going to charge for his services to the hero, even though he knows full well the hero probably going to be in a major battle to save the world soon. But before he can, another character guilts him out of it.
* Subverted in the ''Franchise/{{BattleTech|ExpandedUniverse}}'' novel ''Hearts of Chaos''. An invasion force is dropping from the sky, and a handful of mercenaries caught away from their 'Mechs are looking for a quick FiveFingerDiscount in a gun shop they've run across to help fight it off. Does the owner who catches them in the act argue? Yes, briefly -- but then he does allow himself to be talked into letting them arm themselves to their hearts' content, mostly on the grounds that if the invaders win they'll likely confiscate his property anyway.
* In the novelization of ''Literature/RevengeOfTheSith'', averted by Obi-Wan via JediMindTrick. He takes Boga the dragonmount without paying, but apologizes to the dragon-wrangler (who can't understand Basic anyway), pointing out that it's for the purpose of saving the planet Utapau.
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* A ''voluntary'' example in ''VideoGame/{{Rabi-Ribi}}'': shopkeeper Miriam is [[HospitalityForHeroes willing to offer her wares to protagonist Erina at no cost]], as Miriam is friends with Erina's master Rumi, but Erina insists on paying like everyone else.

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* A ''voluntary'' example in ''VideoGame/{{Rabi-Ribi}}'': ''VideoGame/RabiRibi'': shopkeeper Miriam is [[HospitalityForHeroes willing to offer her wares to protagonist Erina at no cost]], as Miriam is friends with Erina's master Rumi, but Erina insists on paying like everyone else.



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* ''The Daichis: Earth's Defense Family'' are enlisted to protect the world from danger, and given all sorts of cool weapons to do it with. But they have to '''pay''' each time they use them. And the cost of using their weapons is usually much more than the reward. And they weren't warned about this ahead of time.
* Also happens in most any bounty hunter anime, from ''Anime/CowboyBebop'' to ''Manga/GunsmithCats''. You break it, you bought it. Used mostly as an excuse to keep the heroes working by remaining in debt for the period of the show and sometimes past the ending as well.

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* ''The Daichis: Earth's Defense Family'' are enlisted to protect the world from danger, and given all sorts of cool weapons to do it with. But they have to '''pay''' each time they use them. And the cost of using their weapons is usually How much more than the reward. And they weren't warned about this ahead trope applies in {{Tabletop RPG}}s tends to fall squarely on the shoulders of time.
* Also happens
the GameMaster. By default, in most any bounty hunter anime, from ''Anime/CowboyBebop'' to ''Manga/GunsmithCats''. You break it, you bought it. Used mostly as an games that feature them price lists for equipment, services, magic items, physical spell components and so on will be fairly standardized for convenience -- if a longsword costs 10 gold pieces, it costs that everywhere unless the GM specifically says otherwise. (Magic in particular often has the excuse that there's not really anyone to keep negotiate discounts ''with''. If casting a particular spell requires a ruby of a size and quality normally worth 500 gold pieces, then in a "realistic" economy the heroes working by remaining actual ruby in debt for question might well cost the period caster more or less in terms of the show and sometimes past the ending as well.raw ''money'' depending on circumstances... but they can't just use a "lesser" substitute.)



[[folder:Comic Books]]
* Marvel's ComicBook/{{Alias}} featured Comicbook/JessicaJones complaining that she still had to pay for a pack of cigarettes after saving the shopkeeper from a robbery.
* Similar to the above, a story in SpiderManUnlimited featured the titular webslinger stopping by a take out restaurant while in costume, where he watched the store owner give a pair of cops their meal for free. After asking if there was a discount for being a member of the Avengers he was informed that for him, everything on the menu was full price.

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* Marvel's ComicBook/{{Alias}} featured Comicbook/JessicaJones complaining that she still had to pay for a pack of cigarettes after saving The ''Franchise/FinalFantasy'' example is parodied in the shopkeeper from a robbery.
* Similar to the above, a story in SpiderManUnlimited featured the titular webslinger stopping
flash animation "Awesome Tribute" by a take out restaurant while in costume, where he watched the store owner give a pair of cops their meal for free. After asking if there was a discount for being a member of the Avengers he was informed that for him, everything on the menu was full price.Ricepirate.



[[folder:Literature]]
* OlderThanSteam: At chapter XVI, the Innkeeper asks ''Literature/DonQuixote'' for his pay. Don Quixote answers him that ThereShouldBeALaw that forces HospitalityForHeroes on [[KnightErrant Knights Errant]] like himself:
--> "I have little to do with that," replied the innkeeper; "pay me what you owe me, and let us have no more talk of chivalry, for all I care about is to get my money."
* {{Subverted|Trope}} in ''Literature/ThreeHeartsAndThreeLions''. It appears that one character is going to charge for his services to the hero, even though he knows full well the hero probably going to be in a major battle to save the world soon. But before he can, another character guilts him out of it.
* Subverted in the ''Franchise/{{BattleTech|ExpandedUniverse}}'' novel ''Hearts of Chaos''. An invasion force is dropping from the sky, and a handful of mercenaries caught away from their 'Mechs are looking for a quick FiveFingerDiscount in a gun shop they've run across to help fight it off. Does the owner who catches them in the act argue? Yes, briefly -- but then he does allow himself to be talked into letting them arm themselves to their hearts' content, mostly on the grounds that if the invaders win they'll likely confiscate his property anyway.
* In the novelization of ''Literature/RevengeOfTheSith'', averted by Obi-Wan via JediMindTrick. He takes Boga the dragonmount without paying, but apologizes to the dragon-wrangler (who can't understand Basic anyway), pointing out that it's for the purpose of saving the planet Utapau.
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[[folder:Tabletop Games]]
* How much this trope applies in {{Tabletop RPG}}s tends to fall squarely on the shoulders of the GameMaster. By default, in games that feature them price lists for equipment, services, magic items, physical spell components and so on will be fairly standardized for convenience -- if a longsword costs 10 gold pieces, it costs that everywhere unless the GM specifically says otherwise. (Magic in particular often has the excuse that there's not really anyone to negotiate discounts ''with''. If casting a particular spell requires a ruby of a size and quality normally worth 500 gold pieces, then in a "realistic" economy the actual ruby in question might well cost the caster more or less in terms of raw ''money'' depending on circumstances...but they can't just use a "lesser" substitute.)
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* In ''Webcomic/TheOrderOfTheStick'', being an adventurer doesn't give you a discount, it [[http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0122.html increases the prices]]. This is because the GenreSavvy townsfolk are fully aware that adventurers fresh from acquiring loot in a dungeon can afford the inflated prices. This is a LampshadeHanging of the fact that the prices in most [=DnD=] books don't fit the amount non-adventurers make -- your average townsperson gets a gold piece a month, so if they broke their pickaxe would have to save up three months wages for a new one.

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an adventurer doesn't give you a discount, it [[http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0122.html increases the prices]]. This is because the GenreSavvy townsfolk are fully aware that adventurers fresh from acquiring loot in a dungeon can afford the inflated prices. This is a LampshadeHanging of the fact that the prices in most [=DnD=] ''D&D'' books don't fit the amount non-adventurers make -- your average townsperson gets a gold piece a month, so if they broke their pickaxe would have to save up three months wages for a new one.



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* The ''Franchise/FinalFantasy'' example is parodied in the flash animation "Awesome Tribute" by Ricepirate.
21st Jun '16 1:45:23 PM Willbyr
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* Also happens in most any bounty hunter anime, from ''Anime/CowboyBebop'' to ''GunsmithCats''. You break it, you bought it. Used mostly as an excuse to keep the heroes working by remaining in debt for the period of the show and sometimes past the ending as well.

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* Also happens in most any bounty hunter anime, from ''Anime/CowboyBebop'' to ''GunsmithCats''.''Manga/GunsmithCats''. You break it, you bought it. Used mostly as an excuse to keep the heroes working by remaining in debt for the period of the show and sometimes past the ending as well.
27th May '16 11:15:25 AM gophergiggles
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* Members of the Canadian Armed Forces get absolutely ''soaked'' when paying Rations and Quarters, their equivalent of Room and Board when staying in shacks and eating at the mess hall. Paying for the shacks itself it not too expensive, ranging from a meager $70 to $100 a month, but a soldier is also forced to pay an additional $350 to $450 a month to eat at the mess hall. ''Yes this is mandatory''; you cannot live in the shacks without paying to eat at the mess hall as well. Ask any Canadian soldier how they feel about this if you have a [[RantInducingSlight good half hour to kill]].
25th May '16 7:04:34 PM Rbade
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* Justified in ''Videogame/MegaManClassic''. Yes, it is annoying trying to find those screws, but Dr. Light kind of needs them if he's gonna build your equipment.
13th May '16 1:32:03 PM LucaEarlgrey
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* Inverted in ''VideoGame/{{Rabi-Ribi}}'', where shopkeeper Miriam is willing to offer her wares to protagonist Erina at no cost, as Miriam is friends with Erina's master Rumi, but Erina insists on paying like everyone else, i.e. a voluntary form of this trope.

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* Inverted A ''voluntary'' example in ''VideoGame/{{Rabi-Ribi}}'', where ''VideoGame/{{Rabi-Ribi}}'': shopkeeper Miriam is [[HospitalityForHeroes willing to offer her wares to protagonist Erina at no cost, cost]], as Miriam is friends with Erina's master Rumi, but Erina insists on paying like everyone else, i.e. a voluntary form of this trope.else.
13th May '16 1:29:15 PM LucaEarlgrey
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* Inverted in ''VideoGame/{{Rabi-Ribi}}'', where shopkeeper Miriam is willing to offer her wares to protagonist Erina at no cost, as Miriam is friends with Erina's master Rumi, but Erina insists on paying like everyone else.

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* Inverted in ''VideoGame/{{Rabi-Ribi}}'', where shopkeeper Miriam is willing to offer her wares to protagonist Erina at no cost, as Miriam is friends with Erina's master Rumi, but Erina insists on paying like everyone else.else, i.e. a voluntary form of this trope.
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