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Want to know what writers think of that? '''[[GoodIsBoring "Boring!"]]''' and ''[[FriendlyTarget "Next!"]]''

This is because they can be conflict null zones romantically and dramatically because of a perceived [[FlatCharacter (or real)]] lack of [[RoundedCharacter depth.]] But if done right, it can demonstrate why a guy does have beautiful women attached to him for a genuine reason: he really is a remarkably wonderful and compassionate person.

Along with the HappilyMarried couple, the Nice Guy is among fiction's "favorite" {{Friendly Target}}s. They'll die senselessly to [[HeroicResolve motivate]] their hero buddy, lose the girl to the more dynamic but unstable DoggedNiceGuy or just in general [[ButtMonkey go through constant crap from the world around them]] to give [[BreakTheCutie the slightest dynamic]] [[{{Determinator}} to their optimism]]. Surviving as a main character without becoming a personified HufflepuffHouse or TheWoobie usually requires multiple rounds of BreakTheCutie and DarkAndTroubledPast... essentially, the Nice Guy cannot exist as such in a drama.

This is not the way to go about it, clearly. The NiceGuy can be engaging, likable or even the protagonist; all it takes is giving them a personality outside of "nice" such as: a [[GentlemanAndAScholar scholarly refinement]], [[KnightInShiningArmor a chivalric attitude]], some engaging relationships, and a pinch of HiddenDepths.

Nor does it mean [[GoodIsNotSoft being nice means they're not a badass]], or an IronWoobie (as an example). If [[SmartGuy combat intellect]] or combat ability are involved, it's akin to ObfuscatingStupidity or CrouchingMoronHiddenBadass because you naturally ''expect'' the {{dark|AndTroubledPast}}, [[HurtingHero tormented]] [[IWorkAlone loner]] to be a {{Badass}} and the nice guy to just be a NonActionGuy. So when it comes time for [[IAmNotLeftHanded "No more Mr. Nice Guy"]], [[BewareTheNiceOnes heads roll]]. On the other hand, with the AllOfTheOtherReindeer trope in play, the nice fellow can be a redeeming factor as a person whom the beleaguered hero realizes is on his side and know [[YouAreNotAlone he's not alone]].

Often, authors go the abbreviated route and give them a DarkAndTroubledPast triggered by a BerserkButton. Either way, you can expect their niceness to be ''[[BrokenHero in spite]]'' of whatever {{tragedy}} or drama is in their lives, kind of an equal and opposite reaction to it. If done too suddenly, it implies a level of secrecy and acting that a StepfordSmiler would be jealous of. When done well, a more troubled character will [[DontYouDarePityMe rebuff their advice or friendship]] with "What do you know? [[MiseryPoker You've never had X happen to you!]]" to his "[[FormerTeenRebel I did]]", thus revealing healed-over scars.

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Want to know what writers think of that? '''[[GoodIsBoring "Boring!"]]'''. This is because they can be conflict null zones romantically and dramatically because of a perceived [[FlatCharacter (or real)]] lack of [[RoundedCharacter depth.]] Along with the HappilyMarried couple, the Nice Guy is among fiction's "favorite" {{Friendly Target}}s. They'll die senselessly to [[HeroicResolve motivate]] their hero buddy, lose the girl to the more dynamic but unstable DoggedNiceGuy or just in general [[ButtMonkey go through constant crap from the world around them]].

On the other hand, If done right, it can demonstrate why a guy beautiful women attached to him: he really is a remarkably wonderful and compassionate person. The NiceGuy can be engaging, likable or TheProtagonist; all it takes is giving them a personality outside of "nice" such as: a [[GentlemanAndAScholar scholarly refinement]], [[KnightInShiningArmor a chivalric attitude]], some engaging relationships, and a pinch of HiddenDepths.

Nor does it mean [[GoodIsNotSoft being nice means they're not a badass]], or an IronWoobie. If [[BaddassBookworm combat intellect]] or combat ability are involved, it's akin to ObfuscatingStupidity or CrouchingMoronHiddenBadass because you naturally ''expect'' the {{dark|AndTroubledPast}}, [[HurtingHero tormented]] [[IWorkAlone loner]] to be a {{Badass}} and the nice guy to be a NonActionGuy. So when it comes time for [[IAmNotLeftHanded "No more Mr. Nice Guy"]], [[BewareTheNiceOnes heads roll]]. On the other hand, with the AllOfTheOtherReindeer trope in play, the nice fellow can be a redeeming factor as a person whom the beleaguered hero realizes is on his side and know [[YouAreNotAlone he's not alone]].

Often, authors go the abbreviated route and give them a DarkAndTroubledPast triggered by a BerserkButton. Either way, you can expect their niceness to be ''[[BrokenHero in spite]]'' of whatever {{tragedy}} or drama is in their lives; kind of an equal and opposite reaction to it. If done too suddenly, it implies a level of secrecy and acting that a StepfordSmiler would be jealous of. When done well, a more troubled character will [[DontYouDarePityMe rebuff their advice or friendship]] with "What do you know? [[MiseryPoker You've never had X happen to you!]]" to his "[[FormerTeenRebel I did]]", thus revealing healed-over scars.

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5th Apr '13 9:26:21 PM Diask

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2nd Apr '13 7:09:18 AM PeabodySam

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