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8th Jan '16 11:13:16 AM Willbyr
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* Played straight in Manga/KimagureOrangeRoad. Touching your past self will cause the future version to dissolve. Never really explained exactly what happens to the future self but it gets shelved under "a bad idea to try".
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* Played straight in Manga/KimagureOrangeRoad.''Manga/KimagureOrangeRoad''. Touching your past self will cause the future version to dissolve. Never really explained exactly what happens to the future self but it gets shelved under "a bad idea to try".

* In ''{{Kurokami}}'', every person has two dopplegangers. When they meet two of the three wither away, but the third will thrive at the cost of the others.
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* In ''{{Kurokami}}'', ''Manga/{{Kurokami}}'', every person has two dopplegangers. When they meet two of the three wither away, but the third will thrive at the cost of the others.
4th Jan '16 7:41:33 AM SeptimusHeap
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* In one anniversary edition of ''ComicBook/SpiderMan'' involving DoctorStrange, Spidey was successfully able to see his past self (right before being bitten by the spider) and listen to advice from his future self on what seemed to be the end of his career (right before his future self is gunned down by the police for some unknown crime). Of course, seeing as the reason he was seeing this was because the fabric of reality was ''already'' in jeopardy because of Dormammu's plot to bring about the apocalypse, it's likely these two encounters couldn't have done any further damage.
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* In one anniversary edition of ''ComicBook/SpiderMan'' involving DoctorStrange, ComicBook/DoctorStrange, Spidey was successfully able to see his past self (right before being bitten by the spider) and listen to advice from his future self on what seemed to be the end of his career (right before his future self is gunned down by the police for some unknown crime). Of course, seeing as the reason he was seeing this was because the fabric of reality was ''already'' in jeopardy because of Dormammu's plot to bring about the apocalypse, it's likely these two encounters couldn't have done any further damage.
1st Jan '16 3:46:35 PM StFan
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[[folder:Films -- Animated]] * In ''WesternAnimation/MrPeabodyAndSherman'', Mr. Peabody warns Sherman not to travel to a timeline where you already exist. It turns out this is because [[spoiler: two people from different timelines touching each other causes a potentially-catastrophic RealityBreakingParadox.]]
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[[folder:Films -- Animated]] Animation]] * In ''WesternAnimation/MrPeabodyAndSherman'', Mr. Peabody warns Sherman not to travel to a timeline where you already exist. It turns out this is because [[spoiler: two [[spoiler:two people from different timelines touching each other causes a potentially-catastrophic RealityBreakingParadox.]]

[[folder:Films -- Animated]] * In ''WesternAnimation/MrPeabodyAndSherman'', Mr. Peabody warns Sherman not Twilight Sparkle's pony friends offer to travel follow her through the portal in ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyEquestriaGirlsRainbowRocks'' but she refuses, trying to a timeline where you already exist. It turns out avoid this is because [[spoiler: two people from different timelines touching each other causes trope. [[spoiler:Then she victimizes herself to it in TheStinger of [[WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyEquestriaGirlsFriendshipGames the sequel]] when she steps through the portal after a potentially-catastrophic RealityBreakingParadox.]]long absence and meets her human counterpart face-to-face]]. A future sequel will likely take this ball and run with it.

** In the movies, nothing worse than fainting happens, and both Doc and Biff seem able to avoid even that by averting their eyes from themselves, or maybe just by being prepared for it. It seems that young Biff in the '50s had no basis to suspect that the "crazy old codger" was himself. It's also entirely possible that the "destroy the universe by temporal paradox" hypothesis was just that - a hypothesis, and there never was any real danger at all.\\ \\ [[WordOfGod The two Bobs]] explain that Doc's concern is that the recognition of a past character meeting his or her future self could lead to an event that causes the paradox; for example, while the two Jennifers simply passed out when meeting each other, the producers explain that had "young" Jennifer fallen, hit her head and sustained a fatal injury she would not have had a future self to trigger the incident, resulting in a paradox.
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** In the movies, nothing worse than fainting happens, and both Doc and Biff seem able to avoid even that by averting their eyes from themselves, or maybe just by being prepared for it. It seems that young Biff in the '50s had no basis to suspect that the "crazy old codger" was himself. It's also entirely possible that the "destroy the universe by temporal paradox" hypothesis was just that - -- a hypothesis, and there never was any real danger at all.\\ \\ all. [[WordOfGod The two Bobs]] explain that Doc's concern is that the recognition of a past character meeting his or her future self could lead to an event that causes the paradox; for example, while the two Jennifers simply passed out when meeting each other, the producers explain that had "young" Jennifer fallen, hit her head and sustained a fatal injury she would not have had a future self to trigger the incident, resulting in a paradox.

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* Twilight Sparkle's pony friends offer to follow her through the portal in ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyEquestriaGirlsRainbowRocks'' but she refuses, trying to avoid this trope. [[spoiler:Then she victimizes herself to it in TheStinger of [[WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyEquestriaGirlsFriendshipGames the sequel]] when she steps through the portal after a long absence and meets her human counterpart face-to-face]]. A future sequel will likely take this ball and run with it.

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25th Dec '15 6:31:33 PM nombretomado
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* An old SilverAge story involves Wonder Girl (ComicBook/WonderWoman as a girl, before she became a separate character) attempting to meet her adult self but failing; this is the reason given for the failure. Later, it's why there needs to be a HandWave ("Amazon magic") for why Wonder Girl and Wonder Tot (Wonder Woman as a toddler) are able to team up with the adult Wonder Woman.
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* An old SilverAge [[UsefulNotes/TheSilverAgeOfComicBooks Silver Age]] story involves Wonder Girl (ComicBook/WonderWoman as a girl, before she became a separate character) attempting to meet her adult self but failing; this is the reason given for the failure. Later, it's why there needs to be a HandWave ("Amazon magic") for why Wonder Girl and Wonder Tot (Wonder Woman as a toddler) are able to team up with the adult Wonder Woman.
19th Dec '15 10:38:08 AM Sark0TAG
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* ''TheJourneymanProject 2: Buried In Time'' averts this in the beginning, as your future self meets you face to face, and sends you forward in time with his Jumpsuit. ** However, this trope is [[EnforcedTrope]] later on with Arthur, your AI companion, who copied himself into a blank biochip in your suit. Out of fear of what would happen if two of the same person met, he auto-recalls you from the time period if you try to reach his original self again.
16th Dec '15 8:11:05 PM FF32
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* In TheRandomverse, [[spoiler: Lex Luthor]] explains away a potential plot hole by explaining this trope. Lampshaded by [[MediumAwareness Deadpool]], of course.
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* In TheRandomverse, WebVideo/ImAMarvelAndImADC, [[spoiler: Lex Luthor]] explains away a potential plot hole by explaining this trope. Lampshaded by [[MediumAwareness Deadpool]], of course.
15th Dec '15 9:15:26 PM ChaoticNovelist
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** In "Father's Day", traveling to the same place twice allows Rose to create a TemporalParadox; later in the same episode, she gives more power to that story's ClockRoaches [[spoiler:by touching her own infant self]]. It's revealed that cleaning up paradoxes without such things happening is part of what the Time Lords did, but now that (for the most part) there ''aren't'' any Time Lords any more, there's no one to prevent such things from happening. This may explain why no flying killer time monkeys appeared during any serial with a title of the form "The [number] Doctors." *** The reason that it was such a dangerous deal when Rose touched her infant self is because she had accidentally caused the time-sterilising monsters to show up by [[spoiler: saving her father's life when he had originally died]]. The later paradox of touching her infant self is only dangerous because it lets the monsters into the church. It's implied that in normal circumstances, this would just be a paradox and nothing dangerous would necessarily come of it.
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** In "Father's Day", traveling to the same place twice allows Rose to create a TemporalParadox; later TemporalParadox by watching herself save her father from getting killed in car accident while she was still a baby. Later in the same episode, she gives more power to that story's ClockRoaches [[spoiler:by touching her own infant self]]. It's revealed that cleaning up paradoxes without such things happening is part of what the Time Lords did, but now that (for the most part) there ''aren't'' any Time Lords any more, there's no one to prevent such things from happening. This may explain why no flying killer time monkeys appeared during any serial with a title of the form "The [number] Doctors." *** The reason that it was such a dangerous deal when Rose touched her infant self is because she had accidentally caused the time-sterilising monsters to show up by [[spoiler: saving her father's life when he had originally died]]. The later paradox of touching her infant self is only dangerous because it lets the monsters into the church. It's implied that in normal circumstances, this would just be a paradox and nothing dangerous would necessarily come of it."

** Of course, the original series also has several stories where [[TheNthDoctor multiple incarnations of the Doctor]] were brought together in the same place at the same time, without any apparent ill effects to the TimeyWimeyBall that is the Franchise/{{Whoniverse}}. (Most of the time, this could be explained by the fact that the multiple incarnations aren't ''entirely'' the same person. But a couple of times two of the same incarnation have met.)
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** Of course, the The original series also has several stories where [[TheNthDoctor multiple incarnations of the Doctor]] were brought together in the same place at the same time, without any apparent ill effects to the TimeyWimeyBall that is the Franchise/{{Whoniverse}}. (Most of the time, this could be explained by the fact that the multiple incarnations aren't ''entirely'' the same person. But a couple of times two of the same incarnation have met.)_

** Funnily enough, this flies out the window in "The Big Bang" when Amy meets her seven-year-old self ("Amelia"), and touches her a couple of times in sizing her up. Possible FanWank[=s=] include a) Amelia is from an alternate timeline, so they're not technically the same person (apart from anything else, she [[spoiler:vanishes minutes later, so she obviously doesn't grow up to become Amy]]), and b) with the whole Universe toast, save for the Earth and [[spoiler:the TARDIS explosion acting as a substitute Sun]], there are probably no ClockRoaches, and really more pressing matters at hand than a couple of silly old paradoxes. ** Lampshaded later when Amy mentions that she met herself, and Rory responds that, to be fair, [[spoiler:the universe did blow up]]. ** However, another time, two Amys (Amies?) met and the problem was being able to save only one. There's also a comic relief special where Amy meets herself from a few minutes down the line. The only danger is to Rory ([[GirlOnGirlIsHot risk of hormone-based overload from watching Amy flirt with herself]].) ** Another time, the "limitation effect" was a ''small spark'' between two of the same Sonic Screwdriver. ** "[[Recap/DoctorWho50thASTheDayOfTheDoctor The Day of the Doctor]]" episode starts with three incarnations of the Doctor meeting up thanks to [[spoiler:the Moment]] opening rips in space-time. The Tenth and Eleventh Doctors meet the War Doctor, a previously-unmentioned incarnation that existed between the Eighth and Ninth Doctors who renounced his name during the Time War. [[spoiler:Taken UpToEleven at the end, when ''all'' thirteen incarnations meet at a single point in time to put Gallifrey into another dimension, including the as-yet-nonexistent Twelfth Doctor]]. However, it's specifically mentioned that only the Eleventh Doctor ([[spoiler:and the Twelfth]]) would remember this happening, as the events are asynchronous with the timelines of the earlier Doctors.
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** Funnily enough, this flies out the window in In "The Big Bang" when Amy meets her seven-year-old self ("Amelia"), and touches her a couple of times in sizing her up. Possible FanWank[=s=] include a) Amelia is from an alternate timeline, so they're not technically the same person (apart from anything else, she [[spoiler:vanishes minutes later, so she obviously doesn't grow up to become Amy]]), and b) with the whole Universe toast, save for the Earth and [[spoiler:the TARDIS explosion acting as a substitute Sun]], there are probably no ClockRoaches, and really more pressing matters at hand than a couple of silly old paradoxes. ** Lampshaded paradoxes. It's also lampshaded later when Amy mentions that she met herself, and Rory responds that, to "to be fair, [[spoiler:the universe did blow up]]. up"]]. ** However, another time, In "The Girl Who Waited", two Amys (Amies?) met and the problem was being able to save only one. There's also The TARDIS couldn't handle the paradox of two Amys in one time and place. **""Time and Space" is a comic relief special where Amy meets herself from a few minutes down the line. The only danger is to Rory ([[GirlOnGirlIsHot risk of hormone-based overload from watching Amy flirt with herself]].) ** Another time, One time the "limitation effect" was a ''small spark'' between two of the same Sonic Screwdriver. ** "[[Recap/DoctorWho50thASTheDayOfTheDoctor The Day of the Doctor]]" episode starts with three incarnations of the Doctor meeting up thanks to [[spoiler:the Moment]] opening rips in space-time. The Tenth and Eleventh Doctors meet the War Doctor, a previously-unmentioned incarnation that existed between the Eighth and Ninth Doctors who renounced his name during the Time War. [[spoiler:Taken [[spoiler:It's taken UpToEleven at the end, when ''all'' thirteen incarnations meet at a single point in time to put Gallifrey into another dimension, including the as-yet-nonexistent Twelfth Doctor]]. However, it's specifically mentioned that only the Eleventh Doctor ([[spoiler:and the Twelfth]]) would remember this happening, as the events are asynchronous with the timelines of the earlier Doctors.
15th Dec '15 9:08:13 PM ChaoticNovelist
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Don't insult the trouble. This is not the place for general fridge logic. It's just prentenious and arrogant.
For some reason, encountering yourself--whether as a [[TimeTravel time-traveler]] or in AnotherDimension--is frequently Very Bad; either it's unhealthy for you in particular, or it creates a TemporalParadox. While this is frequently incredibly useful as a plot device, it doesn't make sense; if there are negative effects to existing simultaneously with yourself, why should they depend on proximity? And why would it require that you as a unit be next to yourself, rather than, say, the atoms in your body (of which there may be few left if you meet yourself as a baby)?
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For some reason, encountering yourself--whether as a [[TimeTravel time-traveler]] or in AnotherDimension--is frequently Very Bad; either it's unhealthy for you in particular, or it creates a TemporalParadox. While this is frequently incredibly useful as a plot device, it doesn't make sense; if there are negative effects to existing simultaneously with yourself, why should they depend on proximity? And why would it require that you as a unit be next to yourself, rather than, say, the atoms in your body (of which there may be few left if you meet yourself as a baby)?\n

** Future Asahina conceals herself from her past self almost every single time, with the explanation that her past self didn't see her future self. The one exception is when [[spoiler:Kyon, Asahina (small) and Nagato go back to December 18th to save the world; Asahina (small) sees Asahina (big), but doesn't recognize her, and doesn't pay her much attention. There are slightly more important happenings going on, like, y'know, ''Kyon bleeding to death in the middle of the street.'']].
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** Future Asahina conceals herself from her past self almost every single time, on most occasions, with the explanation that her past self didn't see her future self. The one exception is when [[spoiler:Kyon, Asahina (small) and Nagato go back to December 18th to save the world; Asahina (small) sees Asahina (big), but doesn't recognize her, and doesn't pay her much attention. There are slightly more important happenings going on, like, y'know, ''Kyon bleeding to death in the middle of the street.'']].
12th Dec '15 9:10:14 PM Trogdor
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* In ''BioShockInfinite/BurialAtSea Episode 2'', Elizabeth is [[spoiler:briefly in Columbia at the same time as her and Booker's past selves]]. Booker inquires what will happen if the run into themselves, but Elizabeth claims it's impossible, because they didn't last time.

** Inverted in the ''Portal 2'' GameMod ''Thinking with Time Machine''.
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** Inverted in the ''Portal 2'' GameMod ''Thinking with Time Machine''.Machine'', where the player has to bring a duplicate of their past self to the future to solve puzzles.
10th Dec '15 4:24:32 AM catmuto
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* ''VideoGame/TalesOfXillia2'' has this a rule with the prime and fractured dimensions. The prime version can encounters its fractured version in one of those dimensions just fine and not suffer any consequences; but if the fractured version encounters the prime dimension in the prime dimension, the fractured self disappears. [[spoiler: In the case of Alternate Milla, her appearing in the prime dimension is what is preventing Prime Milla from reappearing. It's only when Alternate Milla sacrifices herself, that the other may appear.]]
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