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17th Jan '18 4:40:21 AM Cryoclaste
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* In TheVampireDiaries story "Let It Rain", Miranda Gilbert (Elena's mother) is said to have been ejected from the car in the crash and washed upstream. Though it shouldn't be surprising [[spoiler: when she returns as a vampire]].

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* In TheVampireDiaries ''Series/TheVampireDiaries'' story "Let It Rain", Miranda Gilbert (Elena's mother) is said to have been ejected from the car in the crash and washed upstream. Though it shouldn't be surprising [[spoiler: when she returns as a vampire]].
12th Jan '18 6:55:45 AM dmcreif
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* ''Series/TheDefenders2017'': [[Series/Daredevil2015 Matt Murdock]] is seemingly killed in the destruction of Midland Circle while fighting his revived and crazy ex-girlfriend Elektra. In the church, Karen explicitly mentions that Matt's body hasn't been found, though Foggy reminds her that at this point, it has been days since the collapse of Midland Circle. Sure enough, Matt is discovered to be alive and well in the care of some nuns, in a moment that foreshadows what may be to come in ''Daredevil'' season 3.
**Similarly, while Madame Gao's and Elektra's bodies are not seen, it is strongly implied that they may still be alive as well.
24th Dec '17 11:56:05 PM merotoker
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* The first ''Anime/{{Patlabor}}'' movie opens with Hoba, the programmer of the BABEL virus that was hidden in his operating system for the [[HumongousMecha Labors]], jumping off a large sea platform. Gotoh notes they never found the body. When the protagonist go to the supposedly evacuated platform to destroy it to prevent the virus from spreading, [[spoiler: they pick up one employee on the sensors: Hoba. Turns out he really was dead though: he attached his employee badge to his pet raven, perhaps as part of a ThanatosGambit.]]

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* The first ''Anime/{{Patlabor}}'' movie opens with Hoba, the programmer of the BABEL virus that was hidden in his operating system for the [[HumongousMecha Labors]], jumping off a large sea platform. Gotoh notes they never found the body. When the protagonist go to the supposedly evacuated platform to destroy it to prevent the virus from spreading, [[spoiler: they pick up one employee on the sensors: Hoba. Turns out he really was dead though: he attached his employee badge to his pet raven, perhaps as part of a ThanatosGambit.]]ThanatosGambit]].



* ''Anime/MazingerZ'': Kouji, Sayaka and the remainder characters never found Dr. Hell's body and assumed he was dead. Granted, it would be hard to search and find his body given that [[spoiler:in the original manga his SuperVillainLair / HumongousMecha got blown up in middle of the ocean; in the anime series, the CoolAirship where he was fleeing got blown to bits and the remains sank in the ocean; and in another manga version, he was inside of his SuperVillainLair as it drifted spacewards, bleeding to death due to a stab wound.]] Still, he [[spoiler:returned at the last season of ''Anime/GreatMazinger'' like The second DragonInChief of the BigBad]].

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* ''Anime/MazingerZ'': Kouji, Sayaka and the remainder characters never found Dr. Hell's body and assumed he was dead. Granted, it would be hard to search and find his body given that [[spoiler:in the original manga his SuperVillainLair / HumongousMecha got blown up in middle of the ocean; in the anime series, the CoolAirship where he was fleeing got blown to bits and the remains sank in the ocean; and in another manga version, he was inside of his SuperVillainLair as it drifted spacewards, bleeding to death due to a stab wound.]] wound]]. Still, he [[spoiler:returned at the last season of ''Anime/GreatMazinger'' like The second DragonInChief of the BigBad]].



* Right before the SeasonFinale of Season One of ''Anime/YuGiOhZEXAL'', [[spoiler: Yuma, Kaito, Shark, and the supporting cast confronted [[TheDragon Mr. Heartland]] and his army of Litterbots who were standing between tham and [[BigBad Dr. Faker]]. Heartland was last seen falling down a shaft that led to a portal to the Astral World, and his true fate currently remains unknown.]]

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* Right before the SeasonFinale of Season One of ''Anime/YuGiOhZEXAL'', [[spoiler: Yuma, Kaito, Shark, and the supporting cast confronted [[TheDragon Mr. Heartland]] and his army of Litterbots who were standing between tham and [[BigBad Dr. Faker]]. Heartland was last seen falling down a shaft that led to a portal to the Astral World, and his true fate currently remains unknown.]]unknown]].



* It's played with in ''Anime/{{Simoun}}'', and they seem to enjoy poking the viewer with it. Aresia "dies" in the very first episode, but they never find the body and, perhaps even more telling, she remains in the opening credits to the very last episode. You ''constantly'' expect her to reappear, especially when it is revealed that the action that caused her death is also a TimeTravel thing-a-ma-jiggy [[spoiler: ....except no, she never comes back, you never learn her ultimate fate, and everybody else moves on with their own lives. The end.]]

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* It's played with in ''Anime/{{Simoun}}'', and they seem to enjoy poking the viewer with it. Aresia "dies" in the very first episode, but they never find the body and, perhaps even more telling, she remains in the opening credits to the very last episode. You ''constantly'' expect her to reappear, especially when it is revealed that the action that caused her death is also a TimeTravel thing-a-ma-jiggy [[spoiler: ....except no, she never comes back, you never learn her ultimate fate, and everybody else moves on with their own lives. The end.]]end]].



* ''Anime/{{Pokemon}}''

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** [[spoiler:Gin]] is last seen bleeding out, but since [[TheMedic Orihime]] was in the area, there's a small chance he's still alive. [[spoiler:Though with no mention of him after a TimeSkip of seventeen months, those odds have been shrunk significantly]].
** [[spoiler: Harribel is revealed to be alive and now ruling the Hollow World after Aizen's defeat, before being defeated by the new BigBad]].

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** [[spoiler:Gin]] is last seen bleeding out, but since [[TheMedic Orihime]] was in the area, there's a small chance he's still alive. [[spoiler:Though with no mention of him after a TimeSkip of seventeen months, those odds have been shrunk significantly]].
significantly.]]
** [[spoiler: Harribel is revealed to be alive and now ruling the Hollow World after Aizen's defeat, before being defeated by the new BigBad]].BigBad.]]



** [[spoiler: Defied in Episode 11 with regards to Sayaka. Kyoko makes sure to take her body out of the witch's barrier and place it in a hotel for it to be found by a {{muggle}}]].

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** [[spoiler: Defied in Episode 11 with regards to Sayaka. Kyoko makes sure to take her body out of the witch's barrier and place it in a hotel for it to be found by a {{muggle}}]].{{muggle|s}}]].



* SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker is well known for his frequent use of this trope. One can probably find a handful of other comics and Batman related media that will have the Joker falling to his "death" at the end (or something similar), only for him to show up sometime later without any explanation. One need only to go back to his comic debut, '''''Batman''''' ''numero uno''. Intended as a one-shot character, he was apparently killed, but at an editor's behest Bob Kane scribbled up a final panel that left a back door open in case they wanted to bring back this clownish fellow….\\

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* SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker ComicBook/TheJoker is well known for his frequent use of this trope. One can probably find a handful of other comics and Batman related media that will have the Joker falling to his "death" at the end (or something similar), only for him to show up sometime later without any explanation. One need only to go back to his comic debut, '''''Batman''''' ''numero uno''. Intended as a one-shot character, he was apparently killed, but at an editor's behest Bob Kane scribbled up a final panel that left a back door open in case they wanted to bring back this clownish fellow….\\



* According to [[WordOfGod writer commentary]] on the Franchise/{{Batman}} tale ''ComicBook/TheLongHalloween'', [[spoiler:this is how most readers seemed to zero in on the killer. [[WhatCouldHaveBeen As it turns out,]] a cut scene showed the discovery of a body that was played as being Alberto's. It was not, of course.]]

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* According to [[WordOfGod writer commentary]] on the Franchise/{{Batman}} tale ''ComicBook/TheLongHalloween'', [[spoiler:this is how most readers seemed to zero in on the killer. [[WhatCouldHaveBeen As it turns out,]] a cut scene showed the discovery of a body that was played as being Alberto's. It was not, of course.]]course]].



* ''Comicbook/SwampThing''

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* Creator commentary in the trade-paperbacks for ''ComicBook/FiftyTwo'' discussed [[DeathIsCheap the problems associated with killing a character]]. The writers knew that any reader would ''automatically'' view any character death as suspect, so they decided to deliberately avert this trope by showing ComicBook/BoosterGold's corpse. They initially scripted the panel as his body falling to the ground in several pieces, [[{{Narm}} but they thought this came off as hilarious instead of dramatic]], so they instead had his desiccated skeleton fall to the ground instead. [[spoiler: It turns out he ''still'' was not dead, [[FakingTheDead he just wanted to trick the villain]]]].

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* Creator commentary in the trade-paperbacks for ''ComicBook/FiftyTwo'' discussed [[DeathIsCheap the problems associated with killing a character]]. The writers knew that any reader would ''automatically'' view any character death as suspect, so they decided to deliberately avert this trope by showing ComicBook/BoosterGold's corpse. They initially scripted the panel as his body falling to the ground in several pieces, [[{{Narm}} but they thought this came off as hilarious instead of dramatic]], so they instead had his desiccated skeleton fall to the ground instead. [[spoiler: It turns out he ''still'' was not dead, [[FakingTheDead he just wanted to trick the villain]]]].villain]].]]



* In TheVampireDiaries story "Let It Rain", Miranda Gilbert (Elena's mother) is said to have been ejected from the car in the crash and washed upstream. Though it shouldn't be surprising [[spoiler: when she returns as a vampire.]]

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* In TheVampireDiaries story "Let It Rain", Miranda Gilbert (Elena's mother) is said to have been ejected from the car in the crash and washed upstream. Though it shouldn't be surprising [[spoiler: when she returns as a vampire.]]vampire]].



* The finale of ''WesternAnimation/KungFuPanda'' is surprisingly silent on this subject. While the [[FinishingMove Wuxi Finger Hold]] is never expressly claimed to be fatal, the reactions of Po and Tai Lung (and Shifu's expression when he threatens to use it) all suggest it is at least likely to batter someone to a pulp, if not unsurvivable--and the [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything suspiciously-shaped cloud]] after Po uses it would suggest there isn't anything left. Whether to avoid the typical DisneyVillainDeath, as a SequelHook, or because the snow leopard is just too badass to kill off, however, [[spoiler:his death--if such it was--[[OffscreenMomentOfAwesome happens off-screen]]... so it all becomes moot, due to this trope. And since Po's excited words to Shifu are "I defeated Tai Lung!" not "I killed him," then…]]

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* The finale of ''WesternAnimation/KungFuPanda'' is surprisingly silent on this subject. While the [[FinishingMove Wuxi Finger Hold]] is never expressly claimed to be fatal, the reactions of Po and Tai Lung (and Shifu's expression when he threatens to use it) all suggest it is at least likely to batter someone to a pulp, if not unsurvivable--and the [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything suspiciously-shaped cloud]] after Po uses it would suggest there isn't anything left. Whether to avoid the typical DisneyVillainDeath, as a SequelHook, or because the snow leopard is just too badass to kill off, however, [[spoiler:his death--if such it was--[[OffscreenMomentOfAwesome happens off-screen]]... so it all becomes moot, due to this trope. And since Po's excited words to Shifu are "I defeated Tai Lung!" not "I killed him," then…]]then..]].



** Robert Carlyle's character escapes the "zombies", leaving his wife to be killed by them. Later, [[spoiler: she is revealed to have survived.]]
** In his defense, he saw her get taken down but was unable to do anything at that point. Realistically, he had no way of knowing that [[spoiler: she would be the first person immune to the effects of the virus and thus be capable of surviving an attack without becoming a "zombie"]]
* ''Film/{{The Avengers|2012}}'': Averted Trope. [[spoiler:[[Characters/AgentsOfShieldTeamCoulson Agent Coulson]]]] ''appears'' to die, but the scene cuts away before we find out whether [[spoiler:he]] was really OnlyMostlyDead and taken to a hospital room. ComicBook/NickFury plays the death for all it's worth in getting the bickering heroes to put aside their differences, but is explicitly shown to be a ConsummateLiar about other things [[spoiler:(including lying about the ComicBook/CaptainAmerica trading cards being taken from Coulson's body, rather than his locker!)]]. Furthermore, the actor who plays [[spoiler:Coulson]] has said [[spoiler:he]] was assured by Joss Whedon that the character survives. As of ''Series/AgentsOfSHIELD,'' [[spoiler: he's]] alive and kicking, and knowledge of this is restricted to 'level seven' clearance.
** This is only ''sorta'' accurate. The WhamEpisode reveals that [[spoiler: Coulson did indeed die at Loki's hands, but was resurrected several days later (against his will) via a few different types of extremely disturbing SHIELD tech which included a memory wipe of the entire process.]]
** In a blink-and-you'll-miss-it part of a deleted scene, Steve is reviewing files after thawing out in the 21st century. [[spoiler:One of them lists Bucky Barnes as M.I.A., meaning that S.H.I.E.L.D. thinks he may be still alive, alluding to the fact that Bucky "died" by falling off a train, his body never being recovered. This was foreshadowing for the upcoming ''Film/CaptainAmericaTheWinterSoldier'' film, where the identity of the eponymous Winter Soldier is a ForegoneConclusion for anyone who has any knowledge of the comics]].

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** Robert Carlyle's character escapes the "zombies", leaving his wife to be killed by them. Later, [[spoiler: she is revealed to have survived.]]
survived]].
** In his defense, he saw her get taken down but was unable to do anything at that point. Realistically, he had no way of knowing that [[spoiler: she would be the first person immune to the effects of the virus and thus be capable of surviving an attack without becoming a "zombie"]]
"zombie"]].
* ''Film/{{The Avengers|2012}}'': Averted Trope. [[spoiler:[[Characters/AgentsOfShieldTeamCoulson [[spoiler:[[Characters/MCUPhilCoulson Agent Coulson]]]] ''appears'' to die, but the scene cuts away before we find out whether [[spoiler:he]] was really OnlyMostlyDead and taken to a hospital room. ComicBook/NickFury plays the death for all it's worth in getting the bickering heroes to put aside their differences, but is explicitly shown to be a ConsummateLiar about other things [[spoiler:(including lying about the ComicBook/CaptainAmerica trading cards being taken from Coulson's body, rather than his locker!)]]. Furthermore, the actor who plays [[spoiler:Coulson]] has said [[spoiler:he]] was assured by Joss Whedon that the character survives. As of ''Series/AgentsOfSHIELD,'' [[spoiler: he's]] alive and kicking, and knowledge of this is restricted to 'level seven' clearance.
** This is only ''sorta'' accurate. The WhamEpisode reveals that [[spoiler: Coulson did indeed die at Loki's hands, but was resurrected several days later (against his will) via a few different types of extremely disturbing SHIELD tech which included a memory wipe of the entire process.]]
process]].
** In a blink-and-you'll-miss-it part of a deleted scene, Steve is reviewing files after thawing out in the 21st century. [[spoiler:One of them lists Bucky Barnes as M.I.A., meaning that S.H.I.E.L.D. thinks he may be still alive, alluding to the fact that Bucky "died" by falling off a train, his body never being recovered. This was foreshadowing for the upcoming ''Film/CaptainAmericaTheWinterSoldier'' film, where the identity of the eponymous Winter Soldier is a ForegoneConclusion for anyone who has any knowledge of the comics]].comics.]]



* ''Film/ManOnFire'': In the 2004 remake, [[spoiler:Pita (Dakota Fanning) is kidnapped, and later said to have been killed.]] At the end of the movie it is revealed she is still alive.
* ''Film/ManOfSteel'': Sort of speculation here [[spoiler: Although the C-17 delivers its payload, the idea was to send Zod's mooks back to the Phantom Zone; which means they MAY not be dead, and all the people on the plane still kicking it may be trapped with everyone the Kryptonians ever threw into the Phantom Zone.]]

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* ''Film/ManOnFire'': In the 2004 remake, [[spoiler:Pita (Dakota Fanning) is kidnapped, and later said to have been killed.]] killed]]. At the end of the movie it is revealed she is still alive.
* ''Film/ManOfSteel'': Sort of speculation here [[spoiler: Although the C-17 delivers its payload, the idea was to send Zod's mooks back to the Phantom Zone; which means they MAY not be dead, and all the people on the plane still kicking it may be trapped with everyone the Kryptonians ever threw into the Phantom Zone.]]Zone]].



* ''Film/TheReturnOfGodzilla'': In the American version, Steve Martin pretty much says this about the [[Film/{{Gojira}} 1954 version]] of Franchise/{{Godzilla}} and its [[Film/GodzillaKingOfTheMonsters1956 1956 American cut]]. "Just for the record, they never found a body." Of course, in ''Film/GodzillaAgainstMechagodzilla'', they ''did'' find the body… And turned it into the titular Mechagodzilla.

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* ''Film/TheReturnOfGodzilla'': In the American version, Steve Martin pretty much says this about the [[Film/{{Gojira}} [[Film/Godzilla1954 1954 version]] of Franchise/{{Godzilla}} and its [[Film/GodzillaKingOfTheMonsters1956 1956 American cut]]. "Just for the record, they never found a body." Of course, in ''Film/GodzillaAgainstMechagodzilla'', they ''did'' find the body… And turned it into the titular Mechagodzilla.



* ''Film/RuthlessPeople'': SubvertedTrope after the kidnapper and his car fall into the water at the pier. A short time later, [[spoiler: we see the police fishing the corpse of the Bedroom Killer (who died earlier in the kidnapper's house by accident) out of the water (the kidnappers put him there as a decoy) while the kidnapper survives thanks to SCUBA gear and makes it to the beach to be reunited with his girlfriend and Mrs. Stone before the end credits roll.]]

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* ''Film/RuthlessPeople'': SubvertedTrope after the kidnapper and his car fall into the water at the pier. A short time later, [[spoiler: we see the police fishing the corpse of the Bedroom Killer (who died earlier in the kidnapper's house by accident) out of the water (the kidnappers put him there as a decoy) while the kidnapper survives thanks to SCUBA gear and makes it to the beach to be reunited with his girlfriend and Mrs. Stone before the end credits roll.]]roll]].



* ''Film/UnderSiege2DarkTerritory'': Gets a LampshadeHanging twice. With Penn already having bitch-slapped a subordinate for thinking a SEAL team captain could die so easily, he himself falls folly to it and the below dialogue takes place (close to an exact miror of his own earlier speech). As he immediately points out though, alive or not, Ryback is ''not'' on the train (since Ryback is the hero, this situation-redeeming fact obviously doesn't last very long):

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* ''Film/UnderSiege2DarkTerritory'': Gets a LampshadeHanging twice. With Penn already having bitch-slapped a subordinate for thinking a SEAL team captain could die so easily, he himself falls folly to it and the below dialogue takes place (close to an exact miror mirror of his own earlier speech). As he immediately points out though, alive or not, Ryback is ''not'' on the train (since Ryback is the hero, this situation-redeeming fact obviously doesn't last very long):



* ''Film/XMen'':

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* Subverted in Rick Riordan's ''[[Literature/PercyJacksonAndTheOlympians The Last Olympian]]'', where Percy knows that [[spoiler:Beckendorf could not have survived the fall from a ship into water that is not SoftWater; he survived only because he's Poseidon's son. Poseidon's forces don't find the body either. But later Nico, being Hades's son, has talked to the ghost.]]
** Also subverted and played straight in The Titan's Curse when [[spoiler:Bianca di Angelo is inside a faulty automaton when it collapses into peices and parts. Percy, Zoe Nightshade, Grover and Thalia search for hours through the wreckage without finding "anything". They half-heartedly volunteer this as proof that she's still alive somehow, but they all really know she is dead, and her ghost is in the underworld.]]

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* Subverted in Rick Riordan's ''[[Literature/PercyJacksonAndTheOlympians The Last Olympian]]'', where Percy knows that [[spoiler:Beckendorf could not have survived the fall from a ship into water that is not SoftWater; he survived only because he's Poseidon's son. Poseidon's forces don't find the body either. But later Nico, being Hades's son, has talked to the ghost.]]
ghost]].
** Also subverted and played straight in The Titan's Curse when [[spoiler:Bianca di Angelo is inside a faulty automaton when it collapses into peices and parts. Percy, Zoe Nightshade, Grover and Thalia search for hours through the wreckage without finding "anything". They half-heartedly volunteer this as proof that she's still alive somehow, but they all really know she is dead, and her ghost is in the underworld.]]underworld]].



* ''Literature/HarryPotter''

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** In the opening episode of Series 3 [[spoiler:Alex rediscovers Sam's file and keeps it for later reading, and a new DCI alludes to Gene Hunt's secret, heavily implying that it may have to do with Sam's apparent death...]]
*** It later transpires that [[spoiler:this death was indeed faked, however he had 'died' in that world, just in a different way]]

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** In the opening episode of Series 3 [[spoiler:Alex rediscovers Sam's file and keeps it for later reading, and a new DCI alludes to Gene Hunt's secret, heavily implying that it may have to do with Sam's apparent death...]]
death..]].
*** It later transpires that [[spoiler:this death was indeed faked, however he had 'died' in that world, just in a different way]]way]].



* ''Series/{{Smallville}}''

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* Beautifully {{lampshade|Hanging}}d on ''Series/{{Chuck}}'' in regards to [[spoiler: Daniel Shaw]]

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* Beautifully {{lampshade|Hanging}}d on ''Series/{{Chuck}}'' in regards to [[spoiler: Daniel Shaw]]Shaw]].



** An established part of Minbari legend states that Valen, their warrior-prophet from 1,000 years previous, disappeared in this fashion, somewhere out in space. Some of them apparently [[KingInTheMountain believe he'll eventually return]]... and they're right, in an odd sense. The same thing happens to [[spoiler:John Sheridan]] in the DistantFinale. Because his ship was found with sealed airlocks and no trace of him on board, many believe [[KingInTheMountain he'll eventually return too]]. And because both characters make up part of the trio known as The One, many fans take it to mean the same thing also eventually happens to the third member, [[spoiler:Delenn]]

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** An established part of Minbari legend states that Valen, their warrior-prophet from 1,000 years previous, disappeared in this fashion, somewhere out in space. Some of them apparently [[KingInTheMountain believe he'll eventually return]]... and they're right, in an odd sense. The same thing happens to [[spoiler:John Sheridan]] in the DistantFinale. Because his ship was found with sealed airlocks and no trace of him on board, many believe [[KingInTheMountain he'll eventually return too]]. And because both characters make up part of the trio known as The One, many fans take it to mean the same thing also eventually happens to the third member, [[spoiler:Delenn]][[spoiler:Delenn]].



* ''Series/{{Castle}}''

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* Subverted ''three times'' on ''Series/{{Sherlock}}''. First, [[spoiler: Irene]] fakes her death. Sherlock views the body himself and confirms that it is hers, but she's still alive. They reconcile, and later she fakes her death again. Mycroft is positive that she is, in fact, dead this time, he says [[spoiler: "It would take Sherlock himself to fool me." Well, Sherlock himself was there, and helped her.]] Finally, in the season finale, [[spoiler: Sherlock jumps off of a building. John even takes his pulse and confirms his death. Somehow, he survived.]]

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* Subverted ''three times'' on ''Series/{{Sherlock}}''. First, [[spoiler: Irene]] fakes her death. Sherlock views the body himself and confirms that it is hers, but she's still alive. They reconcile, and later she fakes her death again. Mycroft is positive that she is, in fact, dead this time, he says [[spoiler: "It would take Sherlock himself to fool me." Well, Sherlock himself was there, and helped her.]] her]]. Finally, in the season finale, [[spoiler: Sherlock jumps off of a building. John even takes his pulse and confirms his death. Somehow, he survived.]]survived]].



** Played with in "The Abominable Bride". The Bride's body is in the morgue, but she still manages to murder her husband with plenty of witnesses. Later, she also appears to murder several more people. [[spoiler:It turns out to be a big conspiracy. The Bride didn't actually kill herself in public, faking her death and putting a look-alike in the morgue. After killing her abusive husband, she allowed a co-conspirator to shoot her to put a proper body in the morgue (she had TB anyway). All the other killings were committed by members of the conspiracy dressed up as the Bride, frequently by the men's wives themselves. It's heavily implied they deserved it]]. This also serves to convince Sherlock that [[spoiler:Moriarty is indeed dead, and that someone else uses his name to commit crimes]].

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** Played with in "The Abominable Bride". The Bride's body is in the morgue, but she still manages to murder her husband with plenty of witnesses. Later, she also appears to murder several more people. [[spoiler:It turns out to be a big conspiracy. The Bride didn't actually kill herself in public, faking her death and putting a look-alike in the morgue. After killing her abusive husband, she allowed a co-conspirator to shoot her to put a proper body in the morgue (she had TB anyway). All the other killings were committed by members of the conspiracy dressed up as the Bride, frequently by the men's wives themselves. It's heavily implied they deserved it]]. it.]] This also serves to convince Sherlock that [[spoiler:Moriarty is indeed dead, and that someone else uses his name to commit crimes]].



* The Season 1 finale of ''Series/Preacher2016'' concludes with [[spoiler:a methane gas explosion that is stated to have wiped out the whole town and everyone in it, including by implication the four main characters who hadn't left by that point - Emily, Donnie, Sheriff Root, and Odin Quincannon.]] The totally destructive nature of the incident means that no bodies are recovered. However, WordOfGod states that they've all been KilledOffForReal - while ironically, a fifth lead [[spoiler:([=DeBlanc=])]] who was killed off in the penultimate episode and whose body ''was'' seen on screen and by at least two other characters, is still hinted to be making a some form of a return in Season 2.

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* The Season 1 finale of ''Series/Preacher2016'' concludes with [[spoiler:a methane gas explosion that is stated to have wiped out the whole town and everyone in it, including by implication the four main characters who hadn't left by that point - Emily, Donnie, Sheriff Root, and Odin Quincannon.]] Quincannon]]. The totally destructive nature of the incident means that no bodies are recovered. However, WordOfGod states that they've all been KilledOffForReal - while ironically, a fifth lead [[spoiler:([=DeBlanc=])]] who was killed off in the penultimate episode and whose body ''was'' seen on screen and by at least two other characters, is still hinted to be making a some form of a return in Season 2.



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* ''Franchise/TombRaider''

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* In ''[[VideoGame/NinjaGaiden Ninja Gaiden III: The Ancient Ship of Doom]]'', Irene Lew is proclaimed dead after she falls from a cliff and into the sea while being chased by Ryu's evil Doppelganger. It turns out [[HesJustHiding she was just hiding]].
** Also, Ken Hayabusa in the first NES game.

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* In ''[[VideoGame/NinjaGaiden Ninja Gaiden III: The Ancient Ship of Doom]]'', Irene Lew is proclaimed dead after she falls from a cliff and into the sea while being chased by Ryu's evil Doppelganger. It turns out [[HesJustHiding she was just hiding]].
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hiding]]. Also, Ken Hayabusa in the first NES game.



* Many times throughout ''WesternAnimation/BatmanTheAnimatedSeries'' and in the rest of the Franchise/{{DCAU}} The Joker seemingly faces his demise, only to turn up later unharmed.

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* Many times throughout ''WesternAnimation/BatmanTheAnimatedSeries'' and in the rest of the Franchise/{{DCAU}} Franchise/DCAnimatedUniverse The Joker seemingly faces his demise, only to turn up later unharmed.
30th Nov '17 10:50:21 AM BeerBaron
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** This happened to the ''entire'' [[OurDwarvesAreDifferent Dwemer]] race in the {{backstory}}. Sometime around the Battle of Red Mountain in the First Era, the Dwemer, every last one, vanished off the face of Nirn in an instant.[[note]]the only known remaining Dwemer wasn't on Nirn at the time, being off exploring outer realms. Otherwise it covered ''everyone'' -- including a breakaway faction of Dwemer that had settled on the other side of the continent centuries earlier and so far as can be told had nothing to do with whatever the Morrowind Dwemer were up to.[[/note]] Their disappearance remains a RiddleForTheAges both in-universe and out amongst the fandom, though he most commonly accepted theory is that they tried to use the [[CosmicKeystone Heart of Lorkhan]], the still-beating heart of the [[GodIsDead "dead" creator god]] of Mundus, the mortal plane, to AscendToAHigherPlaneOfExistence, and it either [[GoneHorriblyWrong failed spectacularly]] or it ''[[GoneHorriblyRight succeeded]]''. This may not technically be an example, as they ''did'' leave behind remains--in one Dwemer ruin, you find piles of ash on beds, at workstations, in the halls surrounded by guard uniforms, etc. as they disintegrated where they stood. But that doesn't make them necessarily ''dead''...

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** This happened to the ''entire'' [[OurDwarvesAreDifferent Dwemer]] race in the {{backstory}}. Sometime around the Battle of Red Mountain in the First Era, the Dwemer, every last one, vanished off the face of Nirn in an instant.[[note]]the only known remaining Dwemer wasn't on Nirn at the time, being off exploring outer realms. Otherwise it covered ''everyone'' -- including a breakaway faction of Dwemer that had settled on the other side of the continent centuries earlier and so far as can be told had nothing to do with whatever the Morrowind Dwemer were up to.[[/note]] Their disappearance remains a RiddleForTheAges both in-universe and out amongst the fandom, though he most commonly accepted theory is that they tried to use the [[CosmicKeystone Heart of Lorkhan]], the still-beating heart of the [[GodIsDead "dead" creator god]] of Mundus, the mortal plane, to AscendToAHigherPlaneOfExistence, and it either [[GoneHorriblyWrong failed spectacularly]] or it ''[[GoneHorriblyRight succeeded]]''. This also may not technically be an example, as they ''did'' leave behind remains--in remains in a few cases - in one Dwemer ruin, you find piles of ash on beds, at workstations, in the halls surrounded by guard uniforms, etc. as if they disintegrated where they stood. But that doesn't make them necessarily ''dead''...
30th Nov '17 10:48:25 AM BeerBaron
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** This happened to the ''entire'' [[OurDwarvesAreDifferent Dwemer]] race in the {{backstory}}. Sometime around the Battle of Red Mountain in the First Era, the Dwemer, every last one, vanished off the face of Nirn in an instant.[[note]]the only known remaining Dwemer wasn't on Nirn at the time, being off exploring outer realms. Otherwise it covered ''everyone'' -- including a breakaway faction of Dwemer that had settled on the other side of the continent centuries earlier and so far as can be told had nothing to do with whatever the Morrowind Dwemer were up to.[[/note]] Their disappearance remains a RiddleForTheAges both in-universe and out amongst the fandom, though he most commonly accepted theory is that they tried to use the [[CosmicKeystone Heart of Lorkhan]], the still-beating heart of the [[GodIsDead "dead" creator god]] of Mundus, the mortal plane, to AscendToAHigherPlaneOfExistence, and it either [[GoneHorriblyWrong failed spectacularly]] or it ''[[GoneHorriblyRight succeeded]]''. This may not technically be an example, as they ''did'' leave behind remains--in one Dwemer ruin, you find piles of ash on beds, at workstations, in the halls surrounded by guard uniforms, etc. as they disintegrated where they stood. But that doesn't make them necessarily dead...

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** This happened to the ''entire'' [[OurDwarvesAreDifferent Dwemer]] race in the {{backstory}}. Sometime around the Battle of Red Mountain in the First Era, the Dwemer, every last one, vanished off the face of Nirn in an instant.[[note]]the only known remaining Dwemer wasn't on Nirn at the time, being off exploring outer realms. Otherwise it covered ''everyone'' -- including a breakaway faction of Dwemer that had settled on the other side of the continent centuries earlier and so far as can be told had nothing to do with whatever the Morrowind Dwemer were up to.[[/note]] Their disappearance remains a RiddleForTheAges both in-universe and out amongst the fandom, though he most commonly accepted theory is that they tried to use the [[CosmicKeystone Heart of Lorkhan]], the still-beating heart of the [[GodIsDead "dead" creator god]] of Mundus, the mortal plane, to AscendToAHigherPlaneOfExistence, and it either [[GoneHorriblyWrong failed spectacularly]] or it ''[[GoneHorriblyRight succeeded]]''. This may not technically be an example, as they ''did'' leave behind remains--in one Dwemer ruin, you find piles of ash on beds, at workstations, in the halls surrounded by guard uniforms, etc. as they disintegrated where they stood. But that doesn't make them necessarily dead...''dead''...
25th Nov '17 8:36:55 AM LavonPapillon1
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* ''Fanfic/TheHaddockChronicles'': Elsa is presumed dead by Arendelle's royal family, the last person from their to see her being her nanny who tried and failed to save her from the sinking ship.
11th Nov '17 1:58:27 PM NoxSky12599
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* The finale of ''WesternAnimation/KungFuPanda'' is surprisingly silent on this subject. While the [[FinishingMove Wuxi Finger Hold]] is never expressly claimed to be fatal, the reactions of Po and Tai Lung (and Shifu's expression when he threatens to use it) all suggest it is at least likely to batter someone to a pulp, if not unsurvivable--and the [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything suspiciously-shaped cloud]] after Po uses it would suggest there isn't anything left. Whether to avoid the typical DisneyVillainDeath, as a SequelHook, or because the snow leopard is just too badass to kill off, however, [[spoiler:his death--if such it was--[[OffscreenMomentOfAwesome happens off-screen]]... so it all becomes moot, due to this trope. And since Po's excited words to Shifu are "I defeated Tai Lung!" not "I killed him," then…]] For the record, [[spoiler: Tai Lung does not appear in [[WesternAnimation/KungFuPanda2 the sequel]], nor is there any evidence of him still being alive. However, WordOfGod has cheekily refused to confirm it either way]].
* It's finally revealed what happened to Tai Lung in ''WesternAnimation/KungFuPanda3''. [[spoiler: While Tai Lung himself never appears, this express purpose of the Wuxi Finger Hold is to banish those it's used on to the spirit realm (where BigBad Kai comes from). By all technicalities, Tai Lung is dead, but his spirit very likely still exists somewhere within the spirit realm.]]

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* The finale of ''WesternAnimation/KungFuPanda'' is surprisingly silent on this subject. While the [[FinishingMove Wuxi Finger Hold]] is never expressly claimed to be fatal, the reactions of Po and Tai Lung (and Shifu's expression when he threatens to use it) all suggest it is at least likely to batter someone to a pulp, if not unsurvivable--and the [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything suspiciously-shaped cloud]] after Po uses it would suggest there isn't anything left. Whether to avoid the typical DisneyVillainDeath, as a SequelHook, or because the snow leopard is just too badass to kill off, however, [[spoiler:his death--if such it was--[[OffscreenMomentOfAwesome happens off-screen]]... so it all becomes moot, due to this trope. And since Po's excited words to Shifu are "I defeated Tai Lung!" not "I killed him," then…]] For the record, [[spoiler: Tai Lung does not appear in [[WesternAnimation/KungFuPanda2 the sequel]], nor is there any evidence of him still being alive. However, WordOfGod has cheekily refused to confirm it either way]].
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It's finally revealed what happened to Tai Lung in ''WesternAnimation/KungFuPanda3''. [[spoiler: While Tai Lung himself never appears, this It turns out the express purpose of the Wuxi Finger Hold is to banish those it's used on to the [[SpiritWorld spirit realm]] (where [[BigBad Kai]] comes from). A FreezeFrameBonus shot reveals that Tai Lung was one of the masters in the spirit realm (where BigBad Kai comes from). By all technicalities, Tai Lung captured and drained of their chi. Whether this counts as "dead" is dead, but his spirit very likely debatable, since Po was still exists somewhere within able to return to the spirit realm.real world after having used the Wuxi Finger Hold on himself.]]
11th Nov '17 1:45:36 PM NoxSky12599
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* Seemingly averted when [[ComicStrip/CalvinAndHobbes Calvin's dad]] once told the story ''Hamster Huey and the Gooey Kablouie'' with a different ending, at least judging by the way that Hobbes afterwards remarked that "They never found Hamster Huey's body..."
9th Nov '17 1:41:25 PM icyblue87
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** A similar thing happens later with [[spoiler:Mad-Eye Moody]] in ''Literature/HarryPotterAndTheDeathlyHallows''. Special attention is given to the fact that his body is never found, and Ron even suggests he might really be alive. [[spoiler:Then they find his eye...]]

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** A similar thing happens later with [[spoiler:Mad-Eye Moody]] in ''Literature/HarryPotterAndTheDeathlyHallows''. Special attention is given to the fact that his body is never found, and Ron even suggests he might really be alive. [[spoiler:Then [[spoiler:[[FinallyFoundTheBody Then they find his eye...]]]]]]
31st Oct '17 7:56:11 PM darkemyst
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** Subverted with [[spoiler:Sirius Black]], whose body was never found, leading many fans to believe he was still alive. Turns out he really was dead. Specifically, [[spoiler:Sirius' body was never found because his body was ''physically transferred to the afterlife'']], which is not a survivable or reversible event even ''if'' the spell he was hit by seconds earlier was non-lethal.
** A similar thing happens later with [[spoiler:Mad-Eye Moody]]. Special attention is given to the fact that his body is never found, and Ron even suggests he might really be alive. [[spoiler:Then they find his eye...]]

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** Subverted with [[spoiler:Sirius Black]], Black]] in ''Literature/HarryPotterAndTheOrderOfThePhoenix'', whose body was never found, leading many fans to believe he was still alive. Turns out he really was dead. Specifically, [[spoiler:Sirius' body was never found because his body was ''physically transferred to the afterlife'']], which is not a survivable or reversible event even ''if'' the spell he was hit by seconds earlier was non-lethal.
** A similar thing happens later with [[spoiler:Mad-Eye Moody]].Moody]] in ''Literature/HarryPotterAndTheDeathlyHallows''. Special attention is given to the fact that his body is never found, and Ron even suggests he might really be alive. [[spoiler:Then they find his eye...]]
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