History Main / NeverFoundtheBody

14th May '18 1:00:03 PM darkemyst
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* Lampshaded, then subverted, in ''Comicbook/YoungJustice''. After being caught in a massive explosion, teenage supervillain-in-training Harm's body can't be found. After being told nobody could survive that explosion, Robin responds, "guys like that have nine lives." Turns out Harm did escape, only to be shot by his father, who'd spent the last two issues trying to stop him, shoots and kills him. He does come back as a ghost later, though.

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* Lampshaded, then subverted, in ''Comicbook/YoungJustice''. After being caught in a massive explosion, teenage supervillain-in-training Harm's body can't be found. After being told nobody could survive that explosion, Robin responds, "guys like that have nine lives." Turns out Harm did escape, only to be shot and killed by his father, who'd spent the last two issues trying to stop him, shoots and kills him. He does come back as a ghost later, though.


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* In ''[[ComicBook/RobinSeries Robin]]'' the wannabe hero turned villain Dodge ends up apparently disintegrated in a teleportation accident. Robin notes that there's a chance Dodge could come back but that he's probably dead, and Dodge never appears again.
13th May '18 3:32:00 AM Arivne
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* In ''TabletopGame/WarhammerFantasy Battles'' vampires are quite fond of this.

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In ''TabletopGame/WarhammerFantasy Battles'' vampires are quite fond of this.



* A villain flava in ''Badass'' called "They Never Found The Body" allows the villain to "die" in a way that allows them to come back to haunt the Badasses in the future.
* Invoked by name in {{Exalted}}, where a character called Mist, the Eternal Revolutionary made a strange pact with the FairFolk for the power to overthrow Tyrants ([[MotiveDecay and anyone else he deems unfit]]). If he should die by unverifiable means, somehow the Fae magic that protects his destiny is changed and he shows up again later, miraculously saved.

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* A villain flava in ''Badass'' ''TabletopGame/{{Badass}}'' called "They Never Found The Body" allows the villain to "die" in a way that allows them to come back to haunt the Badasses in the future.
* Invoked by name in {{Exalted}}, ''TabletopGame/{{Exalted}}'', where a character called Mist, the Eternal Revolutionary made a strange pact with the FairFolk for the power to overthrow Tyrants ([[MotiveDecay and anyone else he deems unfit]]). If he should die by unverifiable means, somehow the Fae magic that protects his destiny is changed and he shows up again later, miraculously saved.
13th May '18 3:27:53 AM Arivne
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* Pretty much the basis for anyone who thinks UsefulNotes/OsamaBinLaden was not killed by a team of US Navy [=SEALs=], as President Obama announced he was. Although it has been officially confirmed, some still have doubt due to the fact that the Obama Administration never released any pictures of Osama's body before it was given a burial at sea. Not that a post-mortem photograph would have helped much; [[BoomHeadshot he took a bullet in the head.]]

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\n\n\n\n* Pretty much the basis for anyone who thinks UsefulNotes/OsamaBinLaden was not killed by a team of US Navy [=SEALs=], as President Obama announced he was. Although it has been officially confirmed, some still have doubt due to the fact that the Obama Administration never released any pictures of Osama's body before it was given a burial at sea. Not that a post-mortem photograph would have helped much; [[BoomHeadshot he took a bullet in the head.]]]]
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12th May '18 6:26:28 PM RaygunJustice
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* In real life, this usually leads to [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Declared_death_in_absentia legal presumption of death]]. Occurs when no identifiable remains have been found, but either the circumstances (i.e, a plane crash) make it extremely unlikely that they have survived, or they have been missing for a very long time (typically at least seven years) and there is no evidence that they could still be alive. Of course, there have been very rare cases where people have been found to be alive after being legally declared dead, such as [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Campden_Wonder a particularly infamous one]] that occurred in the 17th century.
* One of the earliest examples recorded in history: [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boudica Boudica]], a queen of the Iceni, an Iron Age Celtic Briton tribe who inhabited what is now eastern England. For years, the Romans had been violently annexing the lands of the native Brittonic tribes, which they were obviously none too pleased about. Another problem was that Roman society was ''far'' more viscerally patriarchal that Celtic society - after the death of Boudica's husband, the Romans refused to allow her daughters to succeed him, and stole away their lands. When she questioned this, she was punished with a severe flogging, and her daughters were brutally and publicly gang raped. Enraged, she spearheaded the last major revolt against the Romans in Britain, which sadly failed in the end. She escaped capture, and is said to have died shortly thereafter, allegedly by drinking poison, though her body was never found. Granted, though, there is no surviving native British literature from this era - all of the details of these events come from Roman sources, who, of course, absolutely despised the Celts, so the accuracy of their writings is open for debate.
* Quite a few early aviators disappeared on flights, most famously Amelia Earhart over the Pacific Ocean in 1937. Others include the polar explorer Roald Amundsen during a rescue operation, Charles Kingsford Smith and Tommy Pethybridge while challenging a speed record, Charles Nungesser and Francois Coli while attempting the first non-stop trans-Atlantic flight, John Moncrieff and George Hood while trying to cross the Tasman Sea.
* No one knows what happened to a number of medieval writers, including for instance [[Literature/{{Parzival}} Wolfram von Eschenbach]] (born between 1160 and 1180, died ca. 1220 or later) and Francois Villon (born 1431, died after 1463), for whom we neither a year and place of death nor a grave. Creator/GeoffreyChaucer is buried in Poets' Corner in Westminster Abbey and it is believed that he died in 1400, but the exact date, 25 October, is unconfirmed as its only source is an engraving of his second tomb which was made a century later. Of late there have been theories about him possibly having been [[http://www.amazon.com/Who-Murdered-Chaucer-Medieval-Mystery/dp/0312335873 killed]].
* Australian Prime Minister Harold Holt went swimming in 1967 and never came back.
* Jimmy Hoffa, a trade union leader with links to organised crime. He disappeared in 1975 after reportedly heading to meet with two Mafia leaders.
* Richey James Edwards of the Music/ManicStreetPreachers checked out of his hotel before a 1995 tour and was never found, though there are rumours that he's been seen everywhere from India to the Canary Islands.
* The crew of ''[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Celeste Mary Celeste]]'' vanished off the ship sometime in 1872, leaving its cargo untouched.
* Similarly to Amelia Earhart, they never found out what happened to Antoine Saint-Exupery, the author of ''Literature/TheLittlePrince'', who vanished in his plane. They did [[http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/04/07/world/main610771.shtml find his plane]] after 60 years.
* Natalee Holloway. According to one of Joran's confessions, she apparently had a seizure and passed out or died in his arms, then they dumped the body in the ocean. The chance of finding her now is pretty much nil. Hence, no closure.
* Famous Latino lawyer Oscar Zeta Acosta, [[HeterosexualLifePartners close friend]] of Creator/HunterSThompson, and inspiration for the character Doctor Gonzo in ''Literature/FearAndLoathingInLasVegas'', in 1974 went sailing on the Gulf of Mexico, on a really small boat, right before a big storm. He has never been found.
* The Gladiator Spartacus is generally assumed to have died in the last battle of the Third Servile War, but his body was not found.
* Azaria Chamberlain, in Australia, a 2-month old baby who disappeared near Uluru in 1980. It became one of the most famous disappearance cases in Australian history. Her parents, who were convinced that their baby had been eaten by dingos, were suspected of murder and her mother Linda served three years in prison. Dingo attacks on humans are rare but not unheard of. In June 2012, a fourth inquest concluded that Azaria had indeed been killed by a dingo. The story was dramatised in ''A Cry in the Dark''.
* [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Hudson Henry Hudson]] was cast adrift by his mutinous crew, never to be seen again.
* Brazilian footballer [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruno_Fernandes_de_Souza Bruno]] was arrested due to the disappearance of a former lover, whom the police now believe was killed and fed to dogs.
* [[UsefulNotes/ByzantineEmpire Byzantine Roman Emperor]] Constantine XI's body was never found after [[LastStand he went down fighting]] during UsefulNotes/TheFallOfConstantinople. He tore off his imperial emblems and regalia before charging along with his men, so his body wouldn't be distinguished. Legend has it that he did not die, but [[TakenForGranite got turned to marble]] and [[KingInTheMountain awaits beneath the city]], ready to return one day and take it back.
* King Sebastian I of UsefulNotes/{{Portugal}} was never found after the Battle of Alácer Quibir, in Morocco. The Portuguese-Moorish army was utterly routed by the Moroccans, and Sebastian was last seen leading a [[LastStand desperate charge]]. His eventual successor Philip II of Spain claimed to have received his body from the Moroccans, though the Portuguese didn't believe him. This led to the [[KingInTheMountain Sebastianism legend]], which says that he merely disappeared, and would return to Portugal to lead it to glory once more.
* This may have happened with Harold Godwinson after the Battle of Hastings. According to folklore (and several poems and paintings based on same), the monks of Waltham Abbey asked Harold's former mistress Edith the Swan-necked to identify his body; she found it and they buried him in an unmarked grave in the abbey. According to one alternate version of that story, it was William the Conqueror who requisitioned Edith for the purpose and she chose a random corpse to conceal that she thought Harold was still alive.
* Ambrose Bierce, American author and journalist, went off to Mexico in 1913 to observe the revolution and disappeared without a trace.
* David Kenyon Webster, an American journalist, writer and WWII veteran (a fictional version of the character appears in ''Series/BandOfBrothers''.
* New York State Supreme Court Justice Joseph Crater vanished after having dinner with friends on August 6, 1930.
* In 1944, swing musician Glenn Miller was on a flight to France to entertain the US troops when his plane disappeared over the English Channel. A BBC documentary unearthed compelling evidence that his aircraft had the misfortune to stray off-course into a designated ordnance jettison zone over the Channel, just as a Lancaster bomber that had been forced to break off from a raid with mechanical problems was ditching a particularly large "blockbuster"; one of its crew testified to seeing an aircraft of the type Miller was aboard in the area shortly before the bomb-load was ditched. Nevertheless, a search of the seabed in the area failed to turn up an identifiable wreck of the same plane.
* The Russian Civil War hero Vasily Chapayev officially perished in 1919 while trying to swim across the Ural River under enemy fire. His body was never found (although some claim he was actually buried on a spot which is underwater now). Several works of Soviet and post-Soviet fiction speculate on his survival and further adventures, like [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=soKLBz_qSWM this 1941 propaganda film]] featuring Chapayev getting out of water and leading the people against the invaders. Talk about a slow swimmer...
* Pretty much the basis for anyone who thinks UsefulNotes/OsamaBinLaden was not killed by a team of US Navy [=SEALs=], as President Obama announced he was. Although it has been officially confirmed, some still have doubt due to the fact that the Obama Administration never released any pictures of Osama's body before it was given a burial at sea. Not that a post-mortem photograph would have helped much; [[BoomHeadshot he took a bullet in the head.]]
* Actor Pierre Kirby, who played in a few martial arts movies made most of his money through... delivering yachts in South East Asia. He didn't come back after one of those. Someone presumably saw him some time later in a hotel in Hong Kong. After calling out his name he turned around and walked away, never to be seen again.
** [[http://reallybradjones.tumblr.com/post/129648754029/did-you-ever-find-out-what-happened-to-pierre It turns out he was tossed overboard his yacht by pirates.]]
* Many 9/11 victims. Some may have been vaporized in the fires and explosions. This caused concern when it was realized the debris that had to be cleared might include (unrecognizable) human remains.
* [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_White_Whittlesey Charles White Whittlesey]], leader of the "Lost Batallion" during the [[UsefulNotes/WorldWarI battle of the Argonne Forest]] and recipient of the Medal of Honor, was requested to attend numerous social gatherings on his return to the United States and the stress of the war and the societal demands began to tell on him. On November 26, 1921, while he was on a ship journey to Havana, he retired shortly before midnight from dining with the captain and the following morning he could not be found. It is believed that he committed suicide by jumping overboard because he left a whole series of letters addressed to friends and relatives in his cabin and had made a will before setting off from New York.
* UsefulNotes/AdolfHitler's body was believed to not have been found. In fact, the Russians did find it and didn't tell anyone. That's been called into question; recent forensic testing on the remains show that the skull the Russians claimed was Hitler's is most likely a woman's skull. The tests themselves are suspect, however, as the Russians cut the time the team was promised to examine the remains from three days to three hours.
** A number of other prominent Nazis also vanished during or after the war and were presumed dead, only to turn up later, either alive or having died abroad. The most infamous example being [[MadScientist Josef Mengele]]. He vanished, with many assuming he died during the war. When "Wolfgang Gerhard" died in 1979 of drowning in Paraguay, it took several more years to confirm that Wolfgang was Mengele.
* Invoked with UsefulNotes/GenghisKhan. Legend has it that he wanted to be [[BuryMeNotOnTheLonePrairie buried in an unmarked grave in accordance with his tribe's traditions]], and so after burial, all the attendants in the funeral escort were killed, and then the soldiers who killed the attendants were killed themselves and anyone who witnessed or crossed paths with the funeral procession were cut down. Modern-day archaeologists believe he is buried near his birthplace in Mongolia, but his tomb has still not yet been found.
** [[ItsTheOnlyWayToBeSure It was the only way to be sure.]]
* The Charley Project, which profiles missing persons, has continued to list many people despite the fact that:
** (A) Someone has indeed been charged, tried, and convicted of their murder, or confessed to their murder. For example, nearly a dozen presumed victims of Ted Bundy are still listed on the site, despite Bundy having admitted to killing them shortly before his execution for ''another'' of his gruesome crimes. Or Irene Silverman, despite Sante and Kenneth Kimes having been convicted of her murder due to overwhelming evidence.
** (B) The circumstances of the disappearance mean that it is highly likely that the person is dead.
** (C) The person disappeared so long ago or was so old when they vanished that they are undoubtedly dead by now.
* It's generally accepted that UsefulNotes/OdaNobunaga perished in the revolt at Honnō-ji, but no one never actually found a body they could prove was his. Due to the temple going up in flames, his remains were never located. The fire might have been started in the first place to burn his body without a trace.
* The Alcatraz escapees Frank Morris and the Anglin brothers, Clarence and John. It's believed by some that they drowned, but no bodies have ever been found. It has been speculated (notably by ''Series/MythBusters'') that the trio could have gotten on land, then used the tides to cast some items adrift in such a way as to make them land on nearby Angel Island and throw the authorities off of their trail. Some members of the Anglin family also allege that Clarence and John are still alive, living in hiding in Brazil; what happened to Morris is anyone's guess, though some speculate that a man with such a lengthy, troubled record with the authorities since youth would be unlikely to be able to keep his nose clean for so long if he were alive.
* Francisco de Orellana was the first European to navigate the Amazon river, and vanished during his second trip to TheAmazon. So far, only Franchise/IndianaJones [[Film/IndianaJonesAndTheKingdomOfTheCrystalSkull managed to find the body]].
* Basketball player John Brisker disappeared in Uganda in the late Seventies. He had a fearsome reputation in the ABA and NBA as one of the most violent players ever. There have been theories that he may have gone to Uganda as a mercenary, or been invited as a personal guest of Idi Amin and been executed when Amin was removed from power. No one knows, and his body was never found.
* A more recent basketball example is Bison Dele, who inexplicably retired from the NBA in 1999, eventually buying a boat and living an itinerant lifestyle. In early July 2002, he sailed from Tahiti with his girlfriend, his brother, and a local skipper. About two weeks later, the boat returned with only the brother aboard. Police theorized that the brother killed the others and dumped their bodies in the Pacific. The complete truth will never be known, since the brother soon killed himself.
* No one knows what became of Dan/D.B. Cooper after he jumped from the airplane he hijacked. Officially, he probably didn't survive the landing, but all that's ever been found of him is a small portion of his ransom money.
* The nature of combat during UsefulNotes/WorldWarI made this common; memorials such as the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Menin_Gate Menin Gate Memorial to the Missing]] and [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thiepval_Memorial Thiepval Memorial to the Missing of the Somme]] carry the names of the dead who have no known grave.
* This trope is why snipers use the standard of "an allied boot on the body" when counting confirmed kills, and why air-to-air combat occasionally produces "kill counts" significantly higher than the number of aircraft involved.
* If you live in the country and own a cat, and it dies of natural causes...this will likely be the case. Dogs just lay down and die...if a cat knows its' time is coming, it will walk out into the woods and you'll never see it again.
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* In real life, this usually leads to [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Declared_death_in_absentia legal presumption of death]]. Occurs when no identifiable remains have been found, but either the circumstances (i.e, a plane crash) make it extremely unlikely that they have survived, or they have been missing for a very long time (typically at least seven years) and there is no evidence that they could still be alive. Of course, there have been very rare cases where people have been found to be alive after being legally declared dead, such as [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Campden_Wonder a particularly infamous one]] that occurred in the 17th century.
* One of the earliest examples recorded in history: [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boudica Boudica]], a queen of the Iceni, an Iron Age Celtic Briton tribe who inhabited what is now eastern England. For years, the Romans had been violently annexing the lands of the native Brittonic tribes, which they were obviously none too pleased about. Another problem was that Roman society was ''far'' more viscerally patriarchal that Celtic society - after the death of Boudica's husband, the Romans refused to allow her daughters to succeed him, and stole away their lands. When she questioned this, she was punished with a severe flogging, and her daughters were brutally and publicly gang raped. Enraged, she spearheaded the last major revolt against the Romans in Britain, which sadly failed in the end. She escaped capture, and is said to have died shortly thereafter, allegedly by drinking poison, though her body was never found. Granted, though, there is no surviving native British literature from this era - all of the details of these events come from Roman sources, who, of course, absolutely despised the Celts, so the accuracy of their writings is open for debate.
* Quite a few early aviators disappeared on flights, most famously Amelia Earhart over the Pacific Ocean in 1937. Others include the polar explorer Roald Amundsen during a rescue operation, Charles Kingsford Smith and Tommy Pethybridge while challenging a speed record, Charles Nungesser and Francois Coli while attempting the first non-stop trans-Atlantic flight, John Moncrieff and George Hood while trying to cross the Tasman Sea.
* No one knows what happened to a number of medieval writers, including for instance [[Literature/{{Parzival}} Wolfram von Eschenbach]] (born between 1160 and 1180, died ca. 1220 or later) and Francois Villon (born 1431, died after 1463), for whom we neither a year and place of death nor a grave. Creator/GeoffreyChaucer is buried in Poets' Corner in Westminster Abbey and it is believed that he died in 1400, but the exact date, 25 October, is unconfirmed as its only source is an engraving of his second tomb which was made a century later. Of late there have been theories about him possibly having been [[http://www.amazon.com/Who-Murdered-Chaucer-Medieval-Mystery/dp/0312335873 killed]].
* Australian Prime Minister Harold Holt went swimming in 1967 and never came back.
* Jimmy Hoffa, a trade union leader with links to organised crime. He disappeared in 1975 after reportedly heading to meet with two Mafia leaders.
* Richey James Edwards of the Music/ManicStreetPreachers checked out of his hotel before a 1995 tour and was never found, though there are rumours that he's been seen everywhere from India to the Canary Islands.
* The crew of ''[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Celeste Mary Celeste]]'' vanished off the ship sometime in 1872, leaving its cargo untouched.
* Similarly to Amelia Earhart, they never found out what happened to Antoine Saint-Exupery, the author of ''Literature/TheLittlePrince'', who vanished in his plane. They did [[http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/04/07/world/main610771.shtml find his plane]] after 60 years.
* Natalee Holloway. According to one of Joran's confessions, she apparently had a seizure and passed out or died in his arms, then they dumped the body in the ocean. The chance of finding her now is pretty much nil. Hence, no closure.
* Famous Latino lawyer Oscar Zeta Acosta, [[HeterosexualLifePartners close friend]] of Creator/HunterSThompson, and inspiration for the character Doctor Gonzo in ''Literature/FearAndLoathingInLasVegas'', in 1974 went sailing on the Gulf of Mexico, on a really small boat, right before a big storm. He has never been found.
* The Gladiator Spartacus is generally assumed to have died in the last battle of the Third Servile War, but his body was not found.
* Azaria Chamberlain, in Australia, a 2-month old baby who disappeared near Uluru in 1980. It became one of the most famous disappearance cases in Australian history. Her parents, who were convinced that their baby had been eaten by dingos, were suspected of murder and her mother Linda served three years in prison. Dingo attacks on humans are rare but not unheard of. In June 2012, a fourth inquest concluded that Azaria had indeed been killed by a dingo. The story was dramatised in ''A Cry in the Dark''.
* [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Hudson Henry Hudson]] was cast adrift by his mutinous crew, never to be seen again.
* Brazilian footballer [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruno_Fernandes_de_Souza Bruno]] was arrested due to the disappearance of a former lover, whom the police now believe was killed and fed to dogs.
* [[UsefulNotes/ByzantineEmpire Byzantine Roman Emperor]] Constantine XI's body was never found after [[LastStand he went down fighting]] during UsefulNotes/TheFallOfConstantinople. He tore off his imperial emblems and regalia before charging along with his men, so his body wouldn't be distinguished. Legend has it that he did not die, but [[TakenForGranite got turned to marble]] and [[KingInTheMountain awaits beneath the city]], ready to return one day and take it back.
* King Sebastian I of UsefulNotes/{{Portugal}} was never found after the Battle of Alácer Quibir, in Morocco. The Portuguese-Moorish army was utterly routed by the Moroccans, and Sebastian was last seen leading a [[LastStand desperate charge]]. His eventual successor Philip II of Spain claimed to have received his body from the Moroccans, though the Portuguese didn't believe him. This led to the [[KingInTheMountain Sebastianism legend]], which says that he merely disappeared, and would return to Portugal to lead it to glory once more.
* This may have happened with Harold Godwinson after the Battle of Hastings. According to folklore (and several poems and paintings based on same), the monks of Waltham Abbey asked Harold's former mistress Edith the Swan-necked to identify his body; she found it and they buried him in an unmarked grave in the abbey. According to one alternate version of that story, it was William the Conqueror who requisitioned Edith for the purpose and she chose a random corpse to conceal that she thought Harold was still alive.
* Ambrose Bierce, American author and journalist, went off to Mexico in 1913 to observe the revolution and disappeared without a trace.
* David Kenyon Webster, an American journalist, writer and WWII veteran (a fictional version of the character appears in ''Series/BandOfBrothers''.
* New York State Supreme Court Justice Joseph Crater vanished after having dinner with friends on August 6, 1930.
* In 1944, swing musician Glenn Miller was on a flight to France to entertain the US troops when his plane disappeared over the English Channel. A BBC documentary unearthed compelling evidence that his aircraft had the misfortune to stray off-course into a designated ordnance jettison zone over the Channel, just as a Lancaster bomber that had been forced to break off from a raid with mechanical problems was ditching a particularly large "blockbuster"; one of its crew testified to seeing an aircraft of the type Miller was aboard in the area shortly before the bomb-load was ditched. Nevertheless, a search of the seabed in the area failed to turn up an identifiable wreck of the same plane.
* The Russian Civil War hero Vasily Chapayev officially perished in 1919 while trying to swim across the Ural River under enemy fire. His body was never found (although some claim he was actually buried on a spot which is underwater now). Several works of Soviet and post-Soviet fiction speculate on his survival and further adventures, like [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=soKLBz_qSWM this 1941 propaganda film]] featuring Chapayev getting out of water and leading the people against the invaders. Talk about a slow swimmer...
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* Pretty much the basis for anyone who thinks UsefulNotes/OsamaBinLaden was not killed by a team of US Navy [=SEALs=], as President Obama announced he was. Although it has been officially confirmed, some still have doubt due to the fact that the Obama Administration never released any pictures of Osama's body before it was given a burial at sea. Not that a post-mortem photograph would have helped much; [[BoomHeadshot he took a bullet in the head.]]
* Actor Pierre Kirby, who played in a few martial arts movies made most of his money through... delivering yachts in South East Asia. He didn't come back after one of those. Someone presumably saw him some time later in a hotel in Hong Kong. After calling out his name he turned around and walked away, never to be seen again.
** [[http://reallybradjones.tumblr.com/post/129648754029/did-you-ever-find-out-what-happened-to-pierre It turns out he was tossed overboard his yacht by pirates.]]
* Many 9/11 victims. Some may have been vaporized in the fires and explosions. This caused concern when it was realized the debris that had to be cleared might include (unrecognizable) human remains.
* [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_White_Whittlesey Charles White Whittlesey]], leader of the "Lost Batallion" during the [[UsefulNotes/WorldWarI battle of the Argonne Forest]] and recipient of the Medal of Honor, was requested to attend numerous social gatherings on his return to the United States and the stress of the war and the societal demands began to tell on him. On November 26, 1921, while he was on a ship journey to Havana, he retired shortly before midnight from dining with the captain and the following morning he could not be found. It is believed that he committed suicide by jumping overboard because he left a whole series of letters addressed to friends and relatives in his cabin and had made a will before setting off from New York.
* UsefulNotes/AdolfHitler's body was believed to not have been found. In fact, the Russians did find it and didn't tell anyone. That's been called into question; recent forensic testing on the remains show that the skull the Russians claimed was Hitler's is most likely a woman's skull. The tests themselves are suspect, however, as the Russians cut the time the team was promised to examine the remains from three days to three hours.
** A number of other prominent Nazis also vanished during or after the war and were presumed dead, only to turn up later, either alive or having died abroad. The most infamous example being [[MadScientist Josef Mengele]]. He vanished, with many assuming he died during the war. When "Wolfgang Gerhard" died in 1979 of drowning in Paraguay, it took several more years to confirm that Wolfgang was Mengele.
* Invoked with UsefulNotes/GenghisKhan. Legend has it that he wanted to be [[BuryMeNotOnTheLonePrairie buried in an unmarked grave in accordance with his tribe's traditions]], and so after burial, all the attendants in the funeral escort were killed, and then the soldiers who killed the attendants were killed themselves and anyone who witnessed or crossed paths with the funeral procession were cut down. Modern-day archaeologists believe he is buried near his birthplace in Mongolia, but his tomb has still not yet been found.
** [[ItsTheOnlyWayToBeSure It was the only way to be sure.]]
* The Charley Project, which profiles missing persons, has continued to list many people despite the fact that:
** (A) Someone has indeed been charged, tried, and convicted of their murder, or confessed to their murder. For example, nearly a dozen presumed victims of Ted Bundy are still listed on the site, despite Bundy having admitted to killing them shortly before his execution for ''another'' of his gruesome crimes. Or Irene Silverman, despite Sante and Kenneth Kimes having been convicted of her murder due to overwhelming evidence.
** (B) The circumstances of the disappearance mean that it is highly likely that the person is dead.
** (C) The person disappeared so long ago or was so old when they vanished that they are undoubtedly dead by now.
* It's generally accepted that UsefulNotes/OdaNobunaga perished in the revolt at Honnō-ji, but no one never actually found a body they could prove was his. Due to the temple going up in flames, his remains were never located. The fire might have been started in the first place to burn his body without a trace.
* The Alcatraz escapees Frank Morris and the Anglin brothers, Clarence and John. It's believed by some that they drowned, but no bodies have ever been found. It has been speculated (notably by ''Series/MythBusters'') that the trio could have gotten on land, then used the tides to cast some items adrift in such a way as to make them land on nearby Angel Island and throw the authorities off of their trail. Some members of the Anglin family also allege that Clarence and John are still alive, living in hiding in Brazil; what happened to Morris is anyone's guess, though some speculate that a man with such a lengthy, troubled record with the authorities since youth would be unlikely to be able to keep his nose clean for so long if he were alive.
* Francisco de Orellana was the first European to navigate the Amazon river, and vanished during his second trip to TheAmazon. So far, only Franchise/IndianaJones [[Film/IndianaJonesAndTheKingdomOfTheCrystalSkull managed to find the body]].
* Basketball player John Brisker disappeared in Uganda in the late Seventies. He had a fearsome reputation in the ABA and NBA as one of the most violent players ever. There have been theories that he may have gone to Uganda as a mercenary, or been invited as a personal guest of Idi Amin and been executed when Amin was removed from power. No one knows, and his body was never found.
* A more recent basketball example is Bison Dele, who inexplicably retired from the NBA in 1999, eventually buying a boat and living an itinerant lifestyle. In early July 2002, he sailed from Tahiti with his girlfriend, his brother, and a local skipper. About two weeks later, the boat returned with only the brother aboard. Police theorized that the brother killed the others and dumped their bodies in the Pacific. The complete truth will never be known, since the brother soon killed himself.
* No one knows what became of Dan/D.B. Cooper after he jumped from the airplane he hijacked. Officially, he probably didn't survive the landing, but all that's ever been found of him is a small portion of his ransom money.
* The nature of combat during UsefulNotes/WorldWarI made this common; memorials such as the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Menin_Gate Menin Gate Memorial to the Missing]] and [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thiepval_Memorial Thiepval Memorial to the Missing of the Somme]] carry the names of the dead who have no known grave.
* This trope is why snipers use the standard of "an allied boot on the body" when counting confirmed kills, and why air-to-air combat occasionally produces "kill counts" significantly higher than the number of aircraft involved.
* If you live in the country and own a cat, and it dies of natural causes...this will likely be the case. Dogs just lay down and die...if a cat knows its' time is coming, it will walk out into the woods and you'll never see it again.
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12th May '18 5:29:36 PM HighCrate
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* This is the fate many humans suffer in ''Manga/AttackOnTitan'', due to the fact that many of them are EatenAlive by [[HumanoidAbomination Titans]], which are essentially extremely tall, naked humans that behave much like zombies and are largely immune to damage except to a precision strike to the back of their neck.
7th May '18 3:43:10 PM thatother1dude
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* ''WesternAnimation/StevenUniverse'': Since the end of the Gem Rebellion, the Crystal Gems had been scouring the Earth for the shattered/corrupted remains of Rose's army, and it is implied that there are even more out there they haven't found. [[spoiler: At least it was until they discovered the Cluster experiments, forced Gem fusions made by Homeworld from the shattered Crystal Gems that Garnet stated the "couldn't find", leading up to the reveal of the Cluster, a massive forced fusion of millions of shards incubating in the Earth with the intent to hatch the Earth like an egg when it finally formed]].
** The Crystal Gems also believed this about [[spoiler: Bismuth]], thinking she'd gone MIA during a nasty battle and presuming her dead, when actually [[spoiler: she was poofed and bubbled by Rose Quartz after an argument over Bismuth's new weapon designed to shatter Gems, which Rose refused to approve due to her "all life is precious" M.O. Bismuth attacked Rose, Rose poofed her in self-defense, but didn't tell Garnet and Pearl what happened, presumably out of either guilt/shame or fear that she would lose followers since Bismuth was apparently very popular]].

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* ''WesternAnimation/StevenUniverse'': Since the end of the Gem Rebellion, the Crystal Gems had been scouring the Earth for the shattered/corrupted remains of Rose's army, and it is implied that there are even more out there they haven't found. [[spoiler: At least it was until they discovered the Cluster experiments, forced Gem fusions made by Homeworld from the shattered Crystal Gems that Garnet stated the "couldn't find", leading up to the reveal of the Cluster, a massive forced fusion of millions of shards incubating in the Earth with the intent to hatch the Earth like an egg when it finally formed]].
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The Crystal Gems also believed this about [[spoiler: Bismuth]], thinking she'd Bismuth had gone MIA during a nasty battle and presuming presumed her dead, when actually [[spoiler: she was poofed and bubbled by Rose Quartz after Quartz. They had an argument over Bismuth's new weapon designed to shatter Gems, which Rose refused to approve due to her "all life is precious" M.O. Bismuth attacked Rose, Rose poofed her in self-defense, but didn't tell Garnet and Pearl what happened, presumably out of either guilt/shame or fear that she would lose followers since Bismuth was apparently very popular]].popular.]]
6th May '18 1:02:18 AM Schismatism
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* This seems to happen constantly in the ''Stormblood'' expansion of ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyXIV''. [[spoiler: Gotsetsu and Yotsuyu, Nidhogg, and more... and then at the end of the 'Dawn of a New Sun' quest, ''Zenos Yae Galvus.'' The only person who hasn't come back, it seems, is [[ButtMonkey Grynewaht.]] ]]
5th May '18 9:11:11 PM CnHGirl
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* ''WesternAnimation/StevenUniverse'': Since the end of the Gem Rebellion, the Crystal Gems had been scouring the Earth for the shattered/corrupted remains of Rose's army, and it is implied that there are even more out there they haven't found. [[spoiler: At least it was until they discovered the Cluster experiments, forced Gem fusions made by Homeworld from the shattered Crystal Gems that Garnet stated the "couldn't find", leading up to the reveal of the Cluster, a massive forced fusion of millions of shards incubating in the Earth with the intent to hatch the Earth like an egg when it finally formed]].
** The Crystal Gems also believed this about [[spoiler: Bismuth]], thinking she'd gone MIA during a nasty battle and presuming her dead, when actually [[spoiler: she was poofed and bubbled by Rose Quartz after an argument over Bismuth's new weapon designed to shatter Gems, which Rose refused to approve due to her "all life is precious" M.O. Bismuth attacked Rose, Rose poofed her in self-defense, but didn't tell Garnet and Pearl what happened, presumably out of either guilt/shame or fear that she would lose followers since Bismuth was apparently very popular]].
30th Apr '18 3:02:44 AM jboxingfool
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* Invoked by name in {{Exalted}}, where a character called Mist, the Eternal Revolutionary made a strange pact with the FairFolk for the power to overthrow Tyrants ([[MotiveDecay and anyone else he deems unfit]]). If he should die by unverifiable means, somehow the Fae magic that protects his destiny is changed and he shows up again later, miraculously saved.
16th Apr '18 11:39:22 AM Nyame
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* ''FanFic/ToHellAndBackArrowverse'': Oliver and Barry, of course, though after ten long years, one can't blame their loved ones from assuming they were dead. In fact, when the U.S. Embassy in China called Joe to inform him about Barry's survival, he had initially assumed they had FinallyFoundTheBody and was ready to plan Barry's funeral.
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