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1st Dec '17 6:53:54 PM Kartoonkid95
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* Ernesto de la Cruz from ''WesternAnimation/{{Coco}}'' was a famous musician adored and admired by everyone in Mexico except his own family, whom he abandoned to pursue a music career in the first place.

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* Downplayed in ''WesternAnimation/{{Coco}}''. Ernesto de la Cruz from ''WesternAnimation/{{Coco}}'' was a famous musician adored and admired by everyone in his hometown and all of Mexico [[NoHeroToHisValet except his own family, family]], whom he abandoned to pursue a music career in the first place.
26th Nov '17 8:03:49 AM mimitchi33
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* Dutch people are always baffled about how non-Dutch people cite the "boy putting his finger into the hole of the dike to save the town / day" story at them as if this is part of Dutch culture. Non-Dutch people seem to think this is an established fairy tale / fable in the Netherlands (or worse, actual RealLife events that happened) while it's not. The origins of this fable / fairy tale are unclear, but the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans_Brinker,_or_The_Silver_Skates#Popular_culture:_the_legend_of_the_boy_and_the_dike author who first formally put it into literature]], is American, and the story is much more well-known outside of the Netherlands (in particular, in the U.S.A.) than within it.
* Siddhartha Gautama, the Buddha, was born somewhere in the Indian subcontinent (probably Nepal, possibly modern-day India) sometime around 563 BC, and Buddhism was born as a major religion in India before spreading to much of Central, Eastern, and Southeast Asia. By the 13th century, however, Buddhism had died out in the Buddha's homeland, being subsumed by Hinduism (who co-opted the Buddha as another incarnation of Vishnu) and due to the conquest of northern India by the Muslim Moghuls.
* The Swedish eurodance artist Basshunter is hated beyond belief in his home country, yet fairly popular everywhere else.
* English stand-up comic Al Pitcher, immensely popular in his adoptive Sweden but barely lukewarm in England (to the point that he has a Swedish, but not an English Wikipedia page).
* Creator/KarlMarx was a German by birth and spent much of his life in England. So naturally, the country that adopted Marx's ideas was... Russia. (Amusingly, Marx's own theory predicted Russia was not economically advanced enough to have a communist revolution... though given how said revolution turned out, he was probably right on that count)
* The entire Genre of Techno was founded in Detroit, MI; this is not widely known because techno was largely ignored at the time of its creation in America. It barely took root until producers went to Europe, where it exploded. While Techno has gained some recognition in Detroit, it pales in comparison to the attention R&B, Hip-Hop and Motown receive. To this day Techno still remains more popular abroad than at home.
* This trope can also apply to the Metal genre. The pioneering bands were mostly either American or English but since the mid 90s many of the best bands are either Nordic (Nightwish, Amon Amarth, Dimmu Borgir) or Continental European (Rammstein, Behemoth).
* Add to this list every single [[UsefulNotes/TheVietnamWar Vietnam War]] veteran who returned home to be sneered at, because the war they fought in was unpopular. By contrast, many, many people who do not support TheWarOnTerror make it clear that they ''do'' care about the health and well being of the men and women who fight it. They respect the soldiers, but not the war itself.
* Nicolas Sarkozy. By the end of his [[UsefulNotes/ThePresidentsOfFrance presidency]], he had built up a solid reputation on the international stage, but he was a hugely controversial figure at home. Of course, after he lost, the Socialist Party of his successor François Hollande began to lose support and Sarkozy's UMP began to [[WeAreStrugglingTogether split into factions]], to the point where some called for "Sarko" to run again in 2017. He did, not that it ended up mattering--he lost in his party's primary, and the election ended up going to Emmanuel Macron (an independent who had been a minister under Hollande but was far right enough to eat at the center-right's support).
* Irish people tend to be like this with their own culture, particularly from the mid-nineties onwards and especially with Irish cinema. It's only after something has started to be popular abroad that they're willing to admit they like it. The films ''Film/{{Once}}'', ''WesternAnimation/TheSecretOfKells'' and ''Zonad'' were each seen by about ten people and a stray dog on their original releases, and only started to receive any attention after they earned raves abroad. This may have something to do with the way British media dominates there.
* The Argentinean soldiers who returned from the Falklands' war suffered from this, in one of the most degrading demonstrations of hypocrisy and ungratefulness from the same society they came. Said society was brainwashed and manipulated by the Corrupt Government of that era, anyways, but the ungratefulness and hypocrisy are still there.
* ''Literature/TheGrapesOfWrath'' was burned in Creator/JohnSteinbeck's hometown, and when he moved back there he wasn't treated well because everyone thought he was a communist. It's gotten better though as he is now a celebrated hero there; the town is home to The Steinbeck Center, the Steinbeck festival is held every year, and he even has a library named after him.
* Creator/JosephineBaker was ignored and briefly hated in America because she was black and tried to take on [[MegaCorp William Randolph Hearst]], but was revered as a ''goddess'' in France because of her pioneering dance style. Her working as [[FemmeFataleSpy a spy]] for [[LaResistance the French Resistance]] during UsefulNotes/WorldWarII (which earned her a Croix de Guerre, making her the first American-born woman to receive the honor) didn't hurt her reputation either.
* Variation with Music/{{Rammstein}}: One of the (if not ''the'') world's most famous IndustrialMetal bands, with sold-out concerts in many parts of the world... yet they can't catch a break in their native Germany. As Paul Landers, their rhythm guitarist, said:
--> ''"We have such a bad reputation in Germany it can’t get any worse elsewhere."''
* Former [[UsefulNotes/CanadianPolitics Canadian Prime Minister Pierre Trudeau]] is both widely loved and widely hated by Canadians for a variety of reasons, although his vision of a bilingual country based on individual rights above all else has become widely accepted by Canadians living outside Quebec. ''Inside'' Quebec, Trudeau is almost universally hated by francophone Quebecers, who have always seen themselves as being distinct within Canada and now loathe Trudeau due to his opposition to distinct status for his home province and his native people.
* Singer Music/{{Anastasia}} is much more popular in Europe and Asia than her native America, so much so that you'd probably be hard-pressed to find someone in America who's heard of her.
* U.S. President UsefulNotes/WoodrowWilson in his home nation borders on obscurity at best, and is mostly remembered for his racism and hawkishness at worst. Right-Libertarians in particular dislike him for expanding the federal government's power. In Czechoslovakia, however, he is considered a national hero of sorts for championing the Independence of the Czech republic. Statues of him are very common sight there. His PR overall is much better in Europe, he is overshadowed by UsefulNotes/FranklinDelanoRoosevelt in the U.S.A.
* The British Prime Minister UsefulNotes/MargaretThatcher is internationally seen as an important stateswoman. Magazine/TimeMagazine even listed her among the most influential people of the 20th century. In the United Kingdom however she is a highly divisive if not unpopular figure. In a list of the ''100 Worst Britons'' she was number 3 (compare this to her position in the list with [[Series/OneHundredGreatestBritons 100 Greatest Britons]]: #16). The point was driven across after her death, when some people in England hailed her as a hero, while an equal amount of others actually celebrated her death in the streets. Just how unpopular is she in Britain, you ask? On the week of her death, "Ding-Dong! The Witch Is Dead" was the number one song for UK iTunes.
* The same goes for UsefulNotes/MikhailGorbachev, who is internationally respected for his reforms in the former USSR, which brought the UsefulNotes/ColdWar to an end. Yet in Russia itself he is not held in high esteem because the poverty rate of his country grew quite a lot after the USSR fell. And some older Russians feel that they lost their global greatness after the mighty Soviet Union collapsed.
* Similar to the above mentioned politicians, Germany's Helmut Kohl, reunifier of Germany, co-creator of a close Europe is hailed everywhere as one of the great Statesmen. Yet in Germany he is more importantly considered the guy who publicly declared that the economic well being of his already well-to-do friends is more important than the law and who has been bribed repeatedly, using "Jewish inheritances" of all things as an excuse where the money came from. However, this is hindsight - he won 4 elections (eventually being voted out in 1998, although frankly the last two of those elections were based heavily on support for Kohl in the former East Germany, where the voters liked Kohl for pushing for rapid unification and remained distrustful of the opposition Social Democrats for being socialists; Kohl would have lost without the East, which led many at the time to accuse him of pressing for rapid reunification to save his own political hide rather than any principle) and remains the longest serving head of government there.
* During the 1970s, 1980s and 1990s, Creator/BennyHill's comedy shows were an international hit due to the risqué bathroom humor and absence of any dialogue. In his home country England his comedic talent was never met with much respect and most Englishmen were even embarrassed by his popularity. His shows haven't been shown on British television since his death in 1992.
* Irish comedian Creator/DaveAllen became successful in the UK and gained some attention in other English-speaking countries. By contrast, his comedy was controversial in Ireland because of his satire of the Catholic church.
* Famed Japanese film director Creator/AkiraKurosawa, up until his death, was [[GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff far more popular and acclaimed in the West]] than in his native country and was even accused by Japanese film critics of being "too Western". When ''Film/{{Dodeskaden}}'' bombed in 1970, most of his small amount of Japanese popularity and acclaim vanished completely and he was considered to be a hack that was beloved in the West for what Japanese critics believed was mere exotica and [[HypeAversion over-rating by their American counterparts]]. After his death, [[VindicatedByHistory his Japanese reputation]] [[DeadArtistsAreBetter increased dramatically]].
* Dante Alighieri was Florence’s ButtMonkey (when his natal city declared an amnesty for all the exiled politicians, he was the only one not included). He begged all his life to return, but he never could. He died in Ravenna in 1321. When they realized Dante was [[OverlyNarrowSuperlative the greatest modern Italian poet]], Florence came to regret Dante's exile, and made repeated requests for the return of his remains. The custodians of the body at Ravenna refused to comply, at one point going so far as to conceal the bones in a false wall of the monastery. Nevertheless, in 1829, a tomb was built for him in Florence in the basilica of Santa Croce. That tomb has been empty ever since, with Dante's body remaining in Ravenna, far from the land he loved so dearly. By June 2008, Florence passed a motion rescinding Dante's exile.
* Likewise, Creator/JamesJoyce is celebrated in Ireland today as a national hero. For most of his life, however, Ireland regarded him as {{persona non grata}}.
* As an Anglo-Irish singer-songwriter (albeit born in Buenos Aires), Music/ChrisDeBurgh was generally never popular in the UK (or in the US), other than a few hits such as "Don't Pay the Ferryman" and "The Lady in Red", which both gained exposure on Creator/{{MTV}}. He has, however, long been popular in mainland European countries, especially in Norway, as well as in Brazil and [[GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff in Iran]].
* [[Series/WhaleWars Paul Watson]] is not liked in many parts of Canada. Especially the seal-hunting areas.
* While ''Disney/{{Hercules}}'' was [[AmericansHateTingle hated in Greece]] and well-liked everywhere else, ''Disney/{{Pocahontas}}'' was panned in its home market of America and decently-liked in other countries. Perhaps justified in these cases because the natives realize just how wrong the filmmakers got their iconic stories.
* Current Irish Taoiseach (prime minister) Enda Kenney enjoys a very good reputation outside Ireland as a man willing to make tough choices to restore Ireland's shattered economy. In 2012 he was lauded by ''Time'' and named 'European of the Year' by the German magazine industry. In Ireland on the other hand he is seen as meekly kowtowing to unreasonable EU budgetary constraints and satisfaction with his government usually hovers below 20%. (On the other hand, this is still better than the polling for Fianna Fáil, the party that formed the previous government...)
* Following his departure for the Miami Heat in 2010, [=LeBron=] James' popularity took a huge hit in his home state of Ohio, where he previously played for the Cleveland Cavaliers. He tended to get booed whenever the Heat played the Cavs in Cleveland...but then he returned to the Cavaliers and his hometown. Fans were somewhat split on that (OK, he came back, but does that excuse his initial treason?)...until the 2016 Finals, in which he led the Cavs to the first title for any major Cleveland sports team in ''over 50 years''.[[note]]The city's last title had been by the Cleveland Browns in 1964. [=LeBron's=] ''mother'' wasn't even born then.[[/note]]
* Microsoft's Windows Phone OS has made a considerable dent in the iOS/Android duopoly in nearly every country...except the United States. This can be attributed significantly to the amount of control American mobile operators have over the market driving most consumers to whoever will spend the most advertising, specifically Apple and Samsung (a practice that even puts non-Samsung Android phones in a difficult position). That also makes it a case of [[AmericansHateTingle Americans Hate Nokia]].
* Video game publisher Infogrames is hated in France for making [[TheProblemWithLicensedGames bad video games on licensed properties]]. This was probably one of the reasons why Infogrames nowadays uses the Creator/{{Atari}} brand, even if they were loved everywhere else for making great games such as the ''VideoGame/RollercoasterTycoon'' series and ''Franchise/AloneInTheDark''.
* Business management theories of American statistician W. Edwards Demming revolutionized how Japanese corporations were run in the post World War II era, but remained virtually unknown in United States until Japanese cars and electronics began making significant inroads in 1980s. Even then, his ideas were not implemented enthusiastically by American corporations because its tenets ran contrary to the way they were traditionally run and undermined the power of both the unions and the management by requiring them to cooperate and yield to each other in a manner that they were not accustomed to.
* DragQueen Bebe Zahara Benet, winner of the first season of ''[[Series/RuPaulsDragRace RuPaul's Drag Race]]'', is originally from [[PhraseCatcher Camerooooooooon]] before emigrating to the United States. Cameroon is considered the most homophobic nation on Earth as it prosecutes more GLBT people than any other. Not only would Bebe risk arrest should she ever visit home, she has even received hate mail threatening to burn her alive should she ever do so.
* Music/{{Bjork}}. She's legendary everywhere in the Euro-American sphere … except for Iceland, where many people know her from childhood and know her family well. Many Icelanders would prefer that she went away to one of these places where people love her, and that foreigners would stop asking about her. (Iceland is a nation, sure, but its small population makes it more of a hometown.)
* Though quite successful elsewhere, Music/SarahBrightman is not very well-liked in her native Britain. There she is still seen as the ex-Hot Gossip dancer made into a star by Creator/AndrewLloydWebber. His divorce from his first wife to marry Brightman received a lot of negative publicity at the time it happened. Over thirty years later (and long after Lloyd Webber and Brightman's own divorce), the British press still has not moved past it and will not take the soprano seriously. Likely for this reason, Brightman rarely tours there, much to the dismay of the British fans she ''does'' have.
* In the '90, Eurodance duo ''2 Unlimited'' received a good amount of success around the world, except in their native Netherlands where the typical reaction was "Meh."
* Scooter is widely successful both inside Germany (where ''they'' are from - no it's not just one guy, the bleached blonde with the megaphone is called H. P. Baxxter) and outside of it, but they enjoy such a large {{hatedom}} in Germany that you have to wonder how they get any copies of their music sold like, at all.
* Charles Dawson was hailed everywhere as a great scientist after he discovered the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piltdown_Man Piltdown Man]]. In Sussex, his home, hardly anyone paid any respect to him. Of course, once the Piltdown Man (along with a lot of his less famous "discoveries") was exposed as a forgery, everyone realized the guys simply knew him too well.
* Music/LimpBizkit was once one of the most popular bands in the United States and helped make NuMetal a mainstream genre. Unfortunately for them, [[DeaderThanDisco it didn't last]] and they've plummeted to near-obscurity apart from a few jokes. However, they still remain popular overseas, particularly in continental Europe and South America. It's to the point where they no longer tour the U.S. due to poor show attendances, but still regularly tour everywhere ''but'' North America.
* While ''WesternAnimation/SouthPark'' was a massive hit worldwide, the cartoon was not well-received back in the setting (and duo Trey Parker and Matt Stone's home state) of Colorado. [[http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/features/south-park-20-years-history-trey-parker-matt-stone-928212 until 2008, where it took eleven years for the state to proudly embrace their setting]].
* During the 80s, the Boston Celtics won several championships and were by far the city's most popular sports team except with the city's black population due to the fact their biggest stars (Larry Bird, Kevin [=McHale=], Danny Ainge, etc) were all white. Magic Johnson, who played for the Los Angeles Lakers, the team's most hated rival, recalled running into a group of black teenagers when the Lakers arrived in Boston for a game and being shocked when they told him they hated the Celtics and were rooting for him and his teammates.
* In an unusual example of this happening over time, the British luxury brand Burberry had its reputation destroyed in their native UK since the mid 2000s due to the proliferation of knockoffs causing the brand to be embraced by the "chav" and soccer hooligan culture. Elsewhere, they are still a strong luxury brand.
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25th Nov '17 5:32:49 PM TudorRose
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* Though quite successful elsewhere, Music/SarahBrightman is not very well-liked in her native Britain. There she is still seen as the ex-Hot Gossip dancer made into a star by Creator/AndrewLloydWebber. His divorce from his first wife to marry Brightman received a lot of negative publicity at the time it happened. Over thirty years later (and long after Lloyd Webber and Brightman's own divorce), the British press still has not moved past it. Likely for this reason, Brightman rarely tours there, much to the dismay of the British fans she ''does'' have.

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* Though quite successful elsewhere, Music/SarahBrightman is not very well-liked in her native Britain. There she is still seen as the ex-Hot Gossip dancer made into a star by Creator/AndrewLloydWebber. His divorce from his first wife to marry Brightman received a lot of negative publicity at the time it happened. Over thirty years later (and long after Lloyd Webber and Brightman's own divorce), the British press still has not moved past it.it and will not take the soprano seriously. Likely for this reason, Brightman rarely tours there, much to the dismay of the British fans she ''does'' have.
25th Nov '17 5:29:50 PM TudorRose
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* Though quite successful elsewhere, Music/SarahBrightman is not very well-liked in her native Britain. There she is still seen as the ex-Hot Gossip dancer made into a star by Creator/AndrewLloydWebber. His divorce from his first wife to marry Brightman received a lot of negative publicity at the time, and over thirty years later, the British press still has not moved past it. Likely for this reason, Brightman rarely tours there, much to the dismay of the British fans she ''does'' have.

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* Though quite successful elsewhere, Music/SarahBrightman is not very well-liked in her native Britain. There she is still seen as the ex-Hot Gossip dancer made into a star by Creator/AndrewLloydWebber. His divorce from his first wife to marry Brightman received a lot of negative publicity at the time, and over time it happened. Over thirty years later, later (and long after Lloyd Webber and Brightman's own divorce), the British press still has not moved past it. Likely for this reason, Brightman rarely tours there, much to the dismay of the British fans she ''does'' have.
25th Nov '17 5:27:22 PM TudorRose
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* Though quite successful elsewhere, Music/SarahBrightman is not very well-liked in her native Britain. There she is still seen as the ex-Hot Gossip dancer made into a star by Creator/AndrewLloydWebber. His divorce from his first wife to marry Brightman received a lot of negative publicity at the time, and over thirty years later, the British press still have not stopped mocking her. Likely for this reason, Brightman rarely tours there, much to the dismay of the British fans she ''does'' have.

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* Though quite successful elsewhere, Music/SarahBrightman is not very well-liked in her native Britain. There she is still seen as the ex-Hot Gossip dancer made into a star by Creator/AndrewLloydWebber. His divorce from his first wife to marry Brightman received a lot of negative publicity at the time, and over thirty years later, the British press still have has not stopped mocking her.moved past it. Likely for this reason, Brightman rarely tours there, much to the dismay of the British fans she ''does'' have.
25th Nov '17 5:25:25 PM TudorRose
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* Though quite successful elsewhere, Music/SarahBrightman is not very well-liked in her native Britain. There she is still seen as the ex-Hot Gossip dancer made into a star by Creator/AndrewLloydWebber. His divorce from his first wife to marry Brightman received a lot of negative publicity at the time, and over thirty years later, the British press still have not stopped mocking her. Likely for this reason, Brightman rarely tours there, much to the dismay of the British fans she ''does'' have.
14th Nov '17 6:10:40 AM TristanJeremiah
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* U.S. President [[Woodrow Wilson]] in his home nation borders on obscurity at best, and is mostly remembered for his racism and hawkishness at worst. Right-Libertarians in particular dislike him for expanding the federal government's power. In Czechoslovakia, however, he is considered a national hero of sorts for championing the Independence of the Czech republic. Statues of him are very common sight there. His PR overall is much better in Europe, he is overshadowed by [[Franklin Delano Roosevelt]] in the U.S.A.

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* U.S. President [[Woodrow Wilson]] UsefulNotes/WoodrowWilson in his home nation borders on obscurity at best, and is mostly remembered for his racism and hawkishness at worst. Right-Libertarians in particular dislike him for expanding the federal government's power. In Czechoslovakia, however, he is considered a national hero of sorts for championing the Independence of the Czech republic. Statues of him are very common sight there. His PR overall is much better in Europe, he is overshadowed by [[Franklin Delano Roosevelt]] UsefulNotes/FranklinDelanoRoosevelt in the U.S.A.
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