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11th Jun '17 7:00:49 PM Katsuhagi
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* Defied in Bayonetta. [[Spoiler: The title character bears [[TheSacredDarkness the Left Eye of the World,]] a power that represents th]]e true power of darkness and boosts her own magic several fold. Her father, Balder, bears the Right Eye of the World, which is a light-aligned counterpart to the left. Balder's whole plan in the first game was to ensure Bayonetta reached her full power, and he killed all the other witch candidates save for one that he enslaved. All of this suggests that Bayonetta is only so powerful because her father made her so...until later cutscenes revealed that she received training from Jeanne, against the Umbran Elder's wishes. The sequel builds on this: Not only was Bayonetta allowed to spar with Jeanne, but we find that Bayonetta's mother was an extraordinarily powerful witch in her own right. Bayonetta inherited her power from ''both'' her parents, and it shows.]]

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* Defied in Bayonetta. [[Spoiler: The title character bears [[TheSacredDarkness the Left Eye of the World,]] a power that represents th]]e the true power of darkness and boosts her own magic several fold. Her father, Balder, bears the Right Eye of the World, which is a light-aligned counterpart to the left. Balder's whole plan in the first game was to ensure Bayonetta reached her full power, and he killed all the other witch candidates save for one that he enslaved. All of this suggests that Bayonetta is only so powerful because her father made her so... until later cutscenes revealed that she received training from Jeanne, against the Umbran Elder's wishes. The sequel builds on this: Not only was Bayonetta allowed to spar with Jeanne, but we find that Bayonetta's mother was an extraordinarily powerful witch in her own right. Bayonetta inherited her power from ''both'' her parents, and it shows.]]
11th May '17 3:20:50 PM NOYB
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* Series/HartToHart has Jonathan Hart, who is a self-made millionaire, jetting around the world running his company, and Jennifer Hart, who tags along, has a seat on the Board she clearly wouldn't have if she weren't married to him, and whose father is clearly old money and lots of it, who gave his little girl whatever she wished. Occasionally they'll mention that Jennifer [[InformedAbility used to be a reporter]] but most of the time she's seen only as the wife of the great Jonathan Hart.

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* Series/HartToHart ''Series/HartToHart'' has Jonathan Hart, who is a self-made millionaire, jetting around the world running his company, and Jennifer Hart, who tags along, has a seat on the Board she clearly wouldn't have if she weren't married to him, and whose father is clearly old money and lots of it, who gave his little girl whatever she wished. Occasionally they'll mention that Jennifer [[InformedAbility used to be a reporter]] but most of the time she's seen only as the wife of the great Jonathan Hart.
11th May '17 3:19:28 PM NOYB
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** Rosalie's defining character trait throughout most of the books is that she is jealous that she does not have Edward's affections. Her backstory, revealed in ''Eclipse'', is that she was gang raped by her fiancé and his male friends. In the ''Twilight Illustrated Guide'', we find out that the main reason she became a vampire was because Carlisle had hoped she would be a wife for Edward.

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** Rosalie's defining character trait throughout most of the books is that she is jealous that she does not have Edward's affections. Her backstory, revealed in ''Eclipse'', is that she was gang raped by her fiancé and his male friends. In the ''Twilight Illustrated Guide'', we find out that the main reason reasons she became a vampire was because Carlisle had hoped she would be a wife for Edward.
11th May '17 3:19:21 PM NOYB
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** Rosalie's defining character trait throughout most of the books is that she is jealous that she does not have Edward's affections. Her backstory, revealed in ''Eclipse'', is that she was gang raped by her fiance and his male friends. In the ''Twilight Illustrated Guide'', we find out that the main reason she became a vampire was because Carlisle had hoped she would be a wife for Edward.

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** Rosalie's defining character trait throughout most of the books is that she is jealous that she does not have Edward's affections. Her backstory, revealed in ''Eclipse'', is that she was gang raped by her fiance fiancé and his male friends. In the ''Twilight Illustrated Guide'', we find out that the main reason she became a vampire was because Carlisle had hoped she would be a wife for Edward.
11th May '17 3:17:48 PM NOYB
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* ''Literature/{{Dracula}}'' gives the ladies the same treatment: the only women in the main cast are the fiancées to others in the team. Also something of an inversion in that most of the team is composed of 'Lucy's suitors' and in most of the bits of the book happening after Transylvania, Jonathan appears as 'Mina's husband' rather than the other way around, even though Mina does first appear as 'Jonathan's fiancee'.

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* ''Literature/{{Dracula}}'' gives the ladies the same treatment: the only women in the main cast are the fiancées to others in the team. Also something of an inversion in that most of the team is composed of 'Lucy's suitors' and in most of the bits of the book happening after Transylvania, Jonathan appears as 'Mina's husband' rather than the other way around, even though Mina does first appear as 'Jonathan's fiancee'.fiancée'.
11th May '17 3:17:29 PM NOYB
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* ''Literature/{{Dracula}}'' gives the ladies the same treatment: the only women in the main cast are the fiancees to others in the team. Also something of an inversion in that most of the team is composed of 'Lucy's suitors' and in most of the bits of the book happening after Transylvania, Jonathan appears as 'Mina's husband' rather than the other way around, even though Mina does first appear as 'Jonathan's fiancee'.

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* ''Literature/{{Dracula}}'' gives the ladies the same treatment: the only women in the main cast are the fiancees fiancées to others in the team. Also something of an inversion in that most of the team is composed of 'Lucy's suitors' and in most of the bits of the book happening after Transylvania, Jonathan appears as 'Mina's husband' rather than the other way around, even though Mina does first appear as 'Jonathan's fiancee'.
11th May '17 3:17:03 PM NOYB
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** The seven known burn marks on the House of Black's family tapestry fit this trope. The four males were stricken from the family tree for various reasons, the three females were all stricken from it because of who they married (a Muggle, a Weasley and a Muggleborn, respectively).

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** The seven known burn marks on the House of Black's family tapestry fit this trope. The four males were stricken from the family tree for various reasons, the three females were all stricken from it because of who whom they married (a Muggle, a Weasley and a Muggleborn, respectively).
29th Apr '17 4:58:09 PM CyberXIII
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* Defied in Bayonetta. [[Spoiler: The title character bears [[TheSacredDarkness the Left Eye of the World,]] a power that represents th]]e true power of darkness and boosts her own magic several fold. Her father, Balder, bears the Right Eye of the World, which is a light-aligned counterpart to the left. Balder's whole plan in the first game was to ensure Bayonetta reached her full power, and he killed all the other witch candidates save for one that he enslaved. All of this suggests that Bayonetta is only so powerful because her father made her so...until later cutscenes revealed that she received training from Jeanne, against the Umbran Elder's wishes. The sequel builds on this: Not only was Bayonetta allowed to spar with Jeanne, but we find that Bayonetta's mother was an extraordinarily powerful witch in her own right. Bayonetta inherited her power from ''both'' her parents, and it shows.]]
22nd Apr '17 5:22:07 AM MajinAkuma
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** When we first see Ishizu, her role is to deliver an exposition regarding the backstory of both the Pharaoh and the Priest Seto along with giving a god card to Kaiba, initially having no association with the males. But this trope eventually plays straight for her when she appears in Battle City, where the only reason she enters the main plot is to stop her younger brother Marik from killing the Pharaoh. Since then, whenever we get to her perspective, her ponderings and flashbacks always have something to do with either Marik or Odion with Ishizu herself being a supporter of either one of them.

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** When we first see Ishizu, her role is to deliver an exposition regarding the backstory of both the Pharaoh and the Priest Seto along with giving a god card to Kaiba, initially having no association with the males. But this trope eventually plays straight for her when she appears in Battle City, where the only reason she enters the main plot is to stop her younger brother Marik from killing the Pharaoh. Since then, whenever we get to her perspective, her ponderings and flashbacks always have something to do with either Marik or Odion Rishid with Ishizu herself being a supporter of either one of them.
26th Mar '17 1:23:00 PM nombretomado
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* Similarly, Capcom's ''VideoGame/SengokuBasara'', with its female cast being mostly defined as being someone's wife or lover and [[SatelliteCharacter mostly defining their characters around their respective men]], until [[SubvertedTrope the third game]] introduced Saika Magoichi as a tough, no-nonsense, badass mercenary woman who is highly regarded by the other warlords. [[spoiler:Though the game implies she may have been the protege of the Saika's former (male) leader, who was killed by OdaNobunaga. Which would make her a DoubleSubversion.]] In all honesty though, most notable women from that period in Japan weren't self made, being the wives or daughters of influential men.

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* Similarly, Capcom's ''VideoGame/SengokuBasara'', with its female cast being mostly defined as being someone's wife or lover and [[SatelliteCharacter mostly defining their characters around their respective men]], until [[SubvertedTrope the third game]] introduced Saika Magoichi as a tough, no-nonsense, badass mercenary woman who is highly regarded by the other warlords. [[spoiler:Though the game implies she may have been the protege of the Saika's former (male) leader, who was killed by OdaNobunaga.UsefulNotes/OdaNobunaga. Which would make her a DoubleSubversion.]] In all honesty though, most notable women from that period in Japan weren't self made, being the wives or daughters of influential men.
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