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30th Nov '17 4:59:11 PM Paranoia
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*** The entire point of training a commander like Ender is revealed to be an example: [[spoiler: he's not being trained to defend Earth if/when the Formics/Buggers return for a third time, he's being trained to command the Human invasion and war of extermination against the Formic/Bugger colonies and homeworld]]. The military views it as this trope all along, and the rest of humanity by and large agree when the truth comes to light afterwards. Ender himself takes exception to the necessity of it and, writing under an anonymous pseudonym, reveals the true depth of the tragedy due to misunderstanding between these species. As a result, [[spoiler: he is remembered as the greatest war criminal and mass murderer in all of human history, with his very name being considered a profanity thousands of years later]].



* By some readings, Paul Atreides and Leto Atreides II in the ''Franchise/{{Dune}}'' series, who both [[OmniscientMoralityLicense see the future]]. [[Literature/GodEmperorOfDune Leto II especially fits]] the trope: [[spoiler:he [[FusionDance merges with an alien species]], becomes God of [[PathOfInspiration his own theocracy]], crushes rebellions before they happen, and manipulates the genome for millennia]] in order to [[spoiler:avert [[TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt human extinction]]. Even his closest advisors repeatedly [[ThanatosGambit try to kill him and their eventual success is part of his plan]]]]. Sometimes, AllLovingHero has to be a MagnificentBastard to save you despite yourself.

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* By some readings, Paul Atreides and Leto Atreides II in the ''Franchise/{{Dune}}'' series, who both [[OmniscientMoralityLicense see the future]]. [[Literature/GodEmperorOfDune Leto II especially fits]] the trope: [[spoiler:he [[FusionDance merges with an alien species]], becomes God of [[PathOfInspiration his own theocracy]], crushes rebellions before they happen, and manipulates the genome for millennia]] in order to [[spoiler:avert [[spoiler: avert [[TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt human extinction]]. Even his closest advisors repeatedly [[ThanatosGambit try to kill him and their eventual success is part of his plan]]]].plan]] ]]. Sometimes, AllLovingHero has to be a MagnificentBastard to save you despite yourself.
24th Oct '17 8:01:28 PM GEPFC
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** Several side materials for ''VideoGame/FireEmblemJugdral'' depicts Alvis of Velthomer as one. the guy wants to create a utopia free of prejudice and racism, so he joins force with Lopto clan, which he lothes, to take down fellow lords and unite Granbelle into a single country. Naturally, this does ''not'' work, and he becomes heavily as he grows OlderAndWiser and realises [[EvilIsNotAToy his plan has backfired horribly.]]

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** Several side materials for ''VideoGame/FireEmblemJugdral'' depicts Alvis of Velthomer as one. the guy wants to create a utopia free of prejudice and racism, so he joins force with Lopto clan, which he lothes, to take down fellow lords and unite Granbelle into a single country. Naturally, this does ''not'' work, and he becomes heavily guilty as he grows OlderAndWiser and realises [[EvilIsNotAToy his plan has backfired horribly.]]
21st Oct '17 1:45:27 AM ImSpidey2
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-->'''Bane''': I'm ''necessary'' evil.
16th Sep '17 10:47:46 AM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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** Solidus Snake of ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid2SonsOfLiberty'' counts as well: he knows his and Dead Cell's actions are wrong and likely being manipulated by outside forces, but it's what he feels must be done to free America from the Patriots. Ironically, this makes the player character an agent of the [[BiggerBad Bigger Bad]].

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** Solidus Snake of ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid2SonsOfLiberty'' counts as well: he knows his and Dead Cell's actions are wrong and likely being manipulated by outside forces, but it's what he feels must be done to free America from the Patriots. Ironically, this makes the player character an agent of the [[BiggerBad Bigger Bad]].GreaterScopeVillain.
25th Aug '17 9:15:16 AM PistolsAtDawn
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* This is how Vriska sees herself in ''Webcomic/{{Homestuck}}''. She justifies her constant abuse and even sacrificing her teammates as being "for the greater good". Sometimes it seems she actually is right, but most of the time her "helpfulness" is ambiguous at best.
21st Aug '17 7:35:22 AM Nazetrime
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* ''Literature/{{Neogicia}}'': Nox Lucans, the PsychoSidekick to one of the setting's rulers, considers a lot of his actions to be this they are called evil by allies that have been hurt by them.

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* ''Literature/{{Neogicia}}'': Nox Lucans, the PsychoSidekick to one of the setting's rulers, considers a lot of his actions to be this this, as they are have been called evil by allies that have been hurt by them.
14th Aug '17 2:22:39 PM Inertiatic
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** Solidus Snake of ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid2SonsOfLiberty'' counts as well: he knows his and Dead Cell's actions are wrong and likely being manipulated by outside forces, but it's what he feels must be done to free America from the Patriots. Ironically, this makes the player character an agent of the [[BiggerBad Bigger Bad]].
13th Aug '17 3:15:06 PM Bugfragged
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* In ''LightNovel/IzureShinwaNoRagnarok'', the organization, Eucharista, had to create a battlefield for the warring gods and provide them with suitable human hosts in order to limit their destruction to a tiny island.
7th Aug '17 10:00:42 PM LovePsychothefirst
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* The true BigBad of ''VideoGame/TalesOfTheAbyss'' believes that the Score is harmful to humanity and wants it gone. [[spoiler:To this end he wants to destroy the entire world and replace all of it with a perfect replica, due to replicas being ImmuneToFate.]] At least one member of the QuirkyMinibossSquad wants the same thing and follows the BigBad because of it.

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* The true BigBad of ''VideoGame/TalesOfTheAbyss'' believes that the Score is harmful to humanity and wants it gone. [[spoiler:To this end he wants to destroy the entire world and replace all of it with a perfect replica, due to replicas being ImmuneToFate.]] At least one member of the QuirkyMinibossSquad wants the same thing and follows the BigBad because of it. [[{{Irony}} Ironically]] his actions as the BigBad forces the main party to save the world from the Score.
7th Aug '17 9:58:31 PM LovePsychothefirst
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** ''TheHero himself'' [[DeadpanSnaker Yuri]] [[BadassNormal Lowell]] views [[spoiler: his acts of vigilante killing of some reprehensible people]] as this. He comes around before the climax against the BigBad after seeing just how far this could take him. [[spoiler: This is half the reason he's able to convince Duke to trust in them and talk him out of destroying the world; he's able to empathize with his viewpoint.]]

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** ''TheHero himself'' [[DeadpanSnaker [[DeadpanSnarker Yuri]] [[BadassNormal Lowell]] views [[spoiler: his acts of vigilante killing of some reprehensible people]] as this. He comes around before the climax against the BigBad after seeing just how far this could take him. [[spoiler: This is half the reason he's able to convince Duke to trust in them and talk him out of destroying the world; he's able to empathize with his viewpoint.]]
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