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8th May '17 4:30:14 PM Bissek
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* A key part of ''Literature/TheCardinalOfTheKremlin'' is a defense system that threatens to destabilize the world by ending this - if one side can shoot down the other's nukes, then the destruction is no longer mutually assured. The US ends up developing the ability to target incoming nukes, while the USSR develops a laser that could theoretically destroy a nuke if it hit one. They spend the entire book trying to steal each other's breakthrough on the system while trying to protect their own.
3rd May '17 2:34:55 PM Golondrina
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* ''MetalGearSolidPeaceWalker'' discusses this and whether it works or not. [[BigBad Coldman]] intends to use the titular Peace Walker to prove that nuclear deterrence works (specifically that no man wants to go down in history as the great annihilator) by launching a fake nuclear strike, in the hopes that the receiving side will refuse to counterattack and destroy humanity. [[spoiler:Turns out that a strong, charismatic leader in the wrong place at the wrong time can induce a "follow the crowd" effect, which causes cowards to become instant patriots who will sacrifice the world out of spite, and cannot be easily reversed by said leader changing his opinion]]. Whoops.

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* ''MetalGearSolidPeaceWalker'' ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolidPeaceWalker'' discusses this and whether it works or not. [[BigBad Coldman]] intends to use the titular Peace Walker to prove that nuclear deterrence works (specifically that no man wants to go down in history as the great annihilator) by launching a fake nuclear strike, in the hopes that the receiving side will refuse to counterattack and destroy humanity. [[spoiler:Turns out that a strong, charismatic leader in the wrong place at the wrong time can induce a "follow the crowd" effect, which causes cowards to become instant patriots who will sacrifice the world out of spite, and cannot be easily reversed by said leader changing his opinion]]. Whoops.
1st May '17 2:40:44 PM Discar
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* ''Webcomic/SchlockMercenary'': Discussed. When the galaxy was bound by a PortalNetwork, there was no Mutually Assured Destruction; the wormgates limited the size of ships that could use them, meaning that it was far easier to defend a system than attack. With the invention of the [[{{Teleportation}} teraport]], that limit was removed, edging the galaxy closer to MAD--but the use of Teraport Area Denial prevented the most dangerous uses of the technology. Then "long-guns" were invented, giant cannons that shoot through hyperspace and overwhelm TAD; with proper location data, they can shoot at anywhere in the galaxy from anywhere in the galaxy. The galaxy was well and truly back in a state of MAD, since there was no defense. The various galactic leaders insist that while this system is terrifying, that's why it works; no one likes the fail state. [[DeusEstMachina Petey]] points out that eventually they'll find someone who ''does'' like the fail state, and then the entire galaxy will die, so they need to find a better solution. Finally, there have been multiple previous epochs of galactic history that were destroyed by failed MAD policies. The very rare surviving species call the long-guns "end-guns" for this reason.

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23rd Mar '17 9:46:52 AM MasterofGalaxies4628
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->[[AC:A strange game. The only winning move is not to play. Would you like to play a nice game of chess?]]

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->[[AC:A ->[[AC:[[Film/WarGames A strange game. The only winning move is not to play. Would you like to play How about a nice game of chess?]]chess?]]]]
10th Mar '17 3:32:26 PM FordPrefect
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* ''Film/DrStrangelove'' is based around this, because the Russians have a doomsday device raring to go if they get hit with a nuke. One [[GeneralRipper rogue general]] in the US air force sends nuclear bombers at Russia, because Ripper, like Turgidson, thinks it can be averted with a pre-emptive strike since the United States has a five-to-one missile superiority. The film notes that the reason this trope was ''not'' successfully invoked was because the Russians constructed their doomsday device ''before'' revealing its existence, thus * A negating any use it had as a deterrent in the meantime and instead guaranteeing their destruction if the Americans set it off out of ignorance (as General Ripper proceeded to do).

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* ''Film/DrStrangelove'' is based around this, because the Russians have a doomsday device raring to go if they get hit with a nuke. One [[GeneralRipper rogue general]] in the US air force sends nuclear bombers at Russia, because Ripper, like Turgidson, thinks it can be averted with a pre-emptive strike since the United States has a five-to-one missile superiority. The film notes that the reason this trope was ''not'' successfully invoked was because the Russians constructed their doomsday device ''before'' revealing its existence, thus * A negating any use it had as a deterrent in the meantime and instead guaranteeing their destruction if the Americans set it off out of ignorance (as General Ripper proceeded to do).
7th Mar '17 8:47:07 AM hszmv1
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* Various Franchise/{{Civilization}} games invoke this. Using one nuclear weapon in Civilization will get those who are not at war with you to declare war. Earlier games would also take the AI's nuclear arsenal vs. the players into account when making one sided deals. Civ 6 ramped it up by making Nukes a bit more life like by making radiation last for decades of in game time and lethal to any units in the area (previous games had radiation represented by pollution which would destroy only productivity of the affected tile until a worker could clear it and rebuild the damaged improvement). The mechanics also allowed the attacked player to keep his entire arsenal in play, provided he built a Nuclear Trifecta, thus allowing him to attack the player who used weapons on him some time later. Between the universal lethality and the destruction, both empires would be quickly reduced in capacity in the end game.
22nd Oct '16 10:52:32 AM StarSword
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* This ultimately is what ends the forty-plus-year-long war between the Republic of Cinnabar and the Alliance of Free Stars in Creator/DavidDrake's ''Literature/{{RCN}}'' series: Both nations were on the verge of total economic collapse and continuing the war would likely take the rest of human space with them due to their importance in the galactic economy.
* ''Literature/{{Animorphs}}'': Crayak and Ellimist, two SufficientlyAdvancedAliens who would likely destroy the entire universe and themselves along with it if they ever fought openly. This forces them to engage in {{Proxy War}}s with such groups as the Yeerks and the Animorphs.
17th Sep '16 1:04:14 AM kome360
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* ''MetalGearSolidPeaceWalker'' discusses this and whether it works or not. [[BigBad Coldman]] intends to use the titular Peace Walker to prove that nuclear deterrence works (specifically that no man wants to go down in history as the great annihilator) by launching a nuclear strike.

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* ''MetalGearSolidPeaceWalker'' discusses this and whether it works or not. [[BigBad Coldman]] intends to use the titular Peace Walker to prove that nuclear deterrence works (specifically that no man wants to go down in history as the great annihilator) by launching a fake nuclear strike.strike, in the hopes that the receiving side will refuse to counterattack and destroy humanity. [[spoiler:Turns out that a strong, charismatic leader in the wrong place at the wrong time can induce a "follow the crowd" effect, which causes cowards to become instant patriots who will sacrifice the world out of spite, and cannot be easily reversed by said leader changing his opinion]]. Whoops.
31st Aug '16 4:17:35 AM Morgenthaler
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* One such deterrent is devised in Creator/HarryTurtledove's ''[[{{Worldwar}} Homeward Bound]]''. Before that, this was far from the case, as the [[LizardFolk Race]] has better anti-missile technology than the major human powers and could be reasonably expected to intercept a large number of human nukes. Additionally, since the Race's larger Empire was unreachable, the destruction of their colonists on Earth would not cripple the Empire but would doom humanity. Throughout the ''Colonization'' books, Fleetlord Atvar is musing launching an all-out nuclear strike against all [[HumansByAnyOtherName Tosevite]] territories in order to prevent them from spreading out into the galaxy, knowing that this would likely result in the planet becoming uninhabitable. One of the purposes of the ''Admiral Peary'' is to place a nuclear launch platform in orbit of Home, the Race's homeworld in Tau Ceti, a clear case of GunboatDiplomacy: either the Race deals with humans on equal turms, or both Earth and large areas of Home will be destroyed. When the first ever FTL-capablestarship, the ''Commodore Perry'', arrives to show that humans have the ultimate first-strike capability, the Race manages to device a MAD-like counter. Should humans launch a FTL strike against the three Race worlds, the Race will launch their STL starships on a collision course with Earth. An impact of even one ship traveling at 50% of the speed of light is likely to cause an extinction-level event.

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* One such deterrent is devised in Creator/HarryTurtledove's ''[[{{Worldwar}} ''[[Literature/{{Worldwar}} Homeward Bound]]''. Before that, this was far from the case, as the [[LizardFolk Race]] has better anti-missile technology than the major human powers and could be reasonably expected to intercept a large number of human nukes. Additionally, since the Race's larger Empire was unreachable, the destruction of their colonists on Earth would not cripple the Empire but would doom humanity. Throughout the ''Colonization'' books, Fleetlord Atvar is musing launching an all-out nuclear strike against all [[HumansByAnyOtherName Tosevite]] territories in order to prevent them from spreading out into the galaxy, knowing that this would likely result in the planet becoming uninhabitable. One of the purposes of the ''Admiral Peary'' is to place a nuclear launch platform in orbit of Home, the Race's homeworld in Tau Ceti, a clear case of GunboatDiplomacy: either the Race deals with humans on equal turms, or both Earth and large areas of Home will be destroyed. When the first ever FTL-capablestarship, the ''Commodore Perry'', arrives to show that humans have the ultimate first-strike capability, the Race manages to device a MAD-like counter. Should humans launch a FTL strike against the three Race worlds, the Race will launch their STL starships on a collision course with Earth. An impact of even one ship traveling at 50% of the speed of light is likely to cause an extinction-level event.
22nd Aug '16 12:57:37 AM Morgenthaler
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Mutually Assured Destruction ([[FunWithAcronyms MAD]]) was the doctrine that nuclear weapons, if deployed against another nuclear power, should be deployed en masse with the objective of completely destroying the other country's capacity to retaliate, and vice versa. In other words, if either the USA or the USSR ever used nuclear weapons against the other, it would be [[MutualDisadvantage assured that neither the USA nor the USSR would exist anymore]]. Naturally this assumes both countries have a large enough stockpile to accomplish this - and [[PeaceThroughSuperiorFirepower they]] [[FromRussiaWithNukes did]].

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Mutually Assured Destruction ([[FunWithAcronyms MAD]]) was the doctrine that nuclear weapons, if deployed against another nuclear power, should be deployed en masse with the objective of completely destroying the other country's capacity to retaliate, and vice versa. In other words, if either the USA or the USSR ever used nuclear weapons against the other, it would be [[MutualDisadvantage assured that neither the USA nor the USSR would exist anymore]]. Naturally this assumes both countries have a large enough stockpile to accomplish this - and [[PeaceThroughSuperiorFirepower [[UsefulNotes/PeaceThroughSuperiorFirepower they]] [[FromRussiaWithNukes [[UsefulNotes/FromRussiaWithNukes did]].
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