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15th Jan '17 2:12:17 PM Schroeder1174
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* Music/BillyJoel signed a deal with unscrupulous manger Artie Ripp in 1972, giving Ripp control over the rights to Billy's music and productions, as well as little in the way of royalties for the singer. Joel stayed out of the limelight while working at a piano bar while his new managers negotiated to get Joel out of the deal; one comprise Joel made would be that Artie's "Family Productions" logo would be applied to each of Billy's albums for the following ten years, and a potion of Billy's royalties awarded to Ripp even when Ripp had little or nothing to do with Billy's management or direction.

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* Music/BillyJoel signed a deal with unscrupulous manger Artie Ripp in 1972, giving Ripp control over the rights to Billy's music and productions, as well as little in the way of royalties for the singer. Joel stayed out of the limelight while working at a piano bar while his new managers negotiated to get Joel out of the deal; one comprise compromise Joel made would be that Artie's "Family Productions" logo would be applied to each of Billy's albums for the following ten years, and a potion portion of Billy's royalties was awarded to Ripp even when Ripp had little or nothing to do with Billy's management or direction.



* One story related to Music/JethroTull (which, perhaps, may have been the case for many artists at the time) included in the liner notes to a 2013 reissue of their 1973 ConceptAlbum ''A Passion Play'' was that although ''Melody Maker'' magazine critic Chris Welch, a fan and champion of the band, may have had some dislike for the album (admittedly one of their more challenging, polarizing efforts), he embarrassingly admitted to the band that the level of vitriol he heaped upon them and the album was meant to dissuade readers from thinking the magazine had a pro-Tull bias and were "in bed with" the group (or progressive rock in general); the magazine wanted to show (certainly in light of PunkRock just around the corner) that they were uncompromising and not lacking in integrity, and it was Tull's turn to face bad press. The review became the basis from which music newspapers all over England and America based their own reviews, leading to the CriticalBacklash against the band which follows the band to this day. It didn't help when their manager, Terry Ellis, published an contrived press statement without the band's permission to gain sympathy, stating how hurt the band was about the poor reviews to the point they would cease touring. Bandleader Ian Anderson would express his own annoyance at Ellis' statement, feeling it made the band look "petulant" in the media.

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* One story related to Music/JethroTull (which, perhaps, may have been the case for many artists at the time) included in the liner notes to a 2013 reissue of their 1973 ConceptAlbum ''A Passion Play'' was that although ''Melody Maker'' magazine critic Chris Welch, a fan and champion of the band, may have had some dislike for the album (admittedly one of their more challenging, polarizing efforts), he embarrassingly admitted to the band that the level of vitriol he heaped upon them and the album was meant to dissuade readers from thinking the magazine had a pro-Tull bias and were "in bed with" the group (or progressive rock in general); the magazine wanted to show (certainly in light of PunkRock just around the corner) that they were uncompromising and not lacking in integrity, and it was Tull's turn to face bad press. The review became the basis from which music newspapers all over England and America based their own reviews, leading to the CriticalBacklash against the band which follows the band them to this day. It didn't help when their manager, Terry Ellis, published an contrived press statement without the band's permission to gain sympathy, stating how hurt the band was about the poor reviews to the point they would cease touring. Bandleader Ian Anderson would express his own annoyance at Ellis' statement, feeling it made the band look "petulant" in the media.
20th Dec '16 3:43:44 AM TSims
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* ExecutiveMeddling: Created a bad ass track list for your album? Plus it has a recurring theme, and message throughout? ...Too bad, because you're gonna do it all over again whether you like it or not. Sometimes you're forced to shoehorn in songs (or even another artist) that the label wants, thus derailing the theme or style of your whole album. Discussed in this [[http://www.cracked.com/personal-experiences-1764-i-was-reality-tv-judge-5-secrets-i-shouldnt-tell-you.html Cracked Article]].

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* ExecutiveMeddling: Created a bad ass track list for your album? Plus it has a recurring theme, concept and message throughout? ...Too bad, because you're gonna do it all over again whether you like it or not. Sometimes you're forced to shoehorn in songs (or even another artist) that the label wants, thus derailing the theme and concept or style of your whole album. Discussed in the number 1 spot in this [[http://www.cracked.com/personal-experiences-1764-i-was-reality-tv-judge-5-secrets-i-shouldnt-tell-you.html Cracked Article]].
20th Dec '16 3:42:15 AM TSims
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* ExecutiveMeddling: Created a bad ass track list for your album? Plus it has a recurring theme, and message throughout? ...Too bad, because you're gonna do it all over again whether you like it or not. Sometimes you're forced to shoehorn in songs (or even another artist) that the label wants, thus derailing the theme or style of your whole album.

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* ExecutiveMeddling: Created a bad ass track list for your album? Plus it has a recurring theme, and message throughout? ...Too bad, because you're gonna do it all over again whether you like it or not. Sometimes you're forced to shoehorn in songs (or even another artist) that the label wants, thus derailing the theme or style of your whole album. Discussed in this [[http://www.cracked.com/personal-experiences-1764-i-was-reality-tv-judge-5-secrets-i-shouldnt-tell-you.html Cracked Article]].
17th Dec '16 7:54:25 PM MsChibi
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* RevolvingDoorBand: Often a result of this trope, though not always.
30th Oct '16 12:47:46 PM TSims
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* DevelopmentHell: Darkly speaking, CreativeDifferences (and contract disputes) can eventually lead to this trope as a form of punishment if the label doesn't get what they want. Essentially, they can invoke this trope on an uncooperative artist's album till the contract expires, which could take years and make it impossible to jump labels. Tragically, this also often ends up making it nearly impossible for said artist to reestablish themselves in the mainstream. Ever wanted to know what happen to that artist that dropped that great album and then disappeared? ...Well, this is probably what happened to them. If it wasn't the label, it very well could have been band politics; rampant infighting and a revolving door of personnel caused by general dysfunction and/or a few members being control freaks or complete assholes can cause the conception of a new album to drag on and on or just eventually hit an insurmountable brick wall. Is a band touring on the same album for far longer than they should with a new lineup on at least a yearly basis with only vague assurances that a new album is coming with no actual evidence? Again, this trope is probably why.

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* DevelopmentHell: Darkly speaking, CreativeDifferences (and contract disputes) can eventually lead to this trope as a form of punishment if the label doesn't get what they want. Essentially, they can invoke this trope on an uncooperative artist's album till the contract expires, which could take years and make it impossible to jump labels. Tragically, this also often ends up making it nearly impossible for said artist to reestablish themselves in the mainstream. Ever wanted to know what happen to that artist that dropped that great album and then disappeared? ...Well, this is probably what happened to them. If
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it wasn't the label, it very well could have been band politics; rampant infighting and a revolving door of personnel caused by general dysfunction and/or a few members being control freaks or complete assholes can cause the conception of a new album to drag on and on or just eventually hit an insurmountable brick wall. Is a band touring on the same album for far longer than they should with a new lineup on at least a yearly basis with only vague assurances that a new album is coming with no actual evidence? Again, this trope is probably why.
30th Oct '16 12:42:16 PM TSims
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* BlameGame: Usually happens when an album fails or underperforms. But the ultimate issue is usually over money, music rights, and royalties, etc..

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* BlameGame: Usually happens when an album fails or underperforms. But the ultimate issue is usually people blaming other people over things like missing money, music rights, and royalties, etc..
27th Oct '16 3:37:24 AM MadSpy
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* Music/NineInchNails is a notable example due to Trent Reznor fighting back against this on multiple ocassions. Firstly, after the first album ''Pretty Hate Machine'' was released in 1989, it initially didn't make much of an impact in terms of sales (the record label expected "Down In It" to become a radio hit). As a result, TVT Records ordered Trent to make a more successful album. Despite this, as NIN toured, the album grew in popularity, recieving airplay on MTV and a large following. As NIN's popularity increased, TVT then changed their mind and ordered Trent to create another Pretty Hate Machine due to the album's success. When TVT began to take over creative control, and refusing to terminate the contract, Trent refused to release another album. However, he secretly recorded the Broken EP in this time, which was delibartely made very loud and abrasive as a "fuck you" to the labelling of NIN as synthpop by TVT. At that time, Jimmy Iovine of Interscope Records, in discussions with NIN's manger, John Malm (who wasn't part of TVT) managed to transfer him to Interscope, at the same time giving him creative control as well as his own vanity label, Nothing Records. ''Broken'' was finally released in 1992. Then in 2004, Trent Reznor sued John Malm after he accused him of owing him $2 million, and it emerged that Malm had taken advantage of Trent during his alcohol addiction. Trent won the suit, and Nothing Records collapsed. In 2007, he then left Interscope after a dispute over the label's overpricing of ''Year Zero'' in Australia, and afterwards going independent. However, in 2012 he returned to major labels due to issues with promoting independently, albeit with a specially negotiated contract.

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* Music/NineInchNails is a notable example due to Trent Reznor fighting back against this on multiple ocassions. Firstly, after the first album ''Pretty Hate Machine'' was released in 1989, it initially didn't make much of an impact in terms of sales (the record label expected "Down In It" to become a radio hit). As a result, TVT Records ordered Trent to make a more successful album. Despite this, as NIN toured, the album grew in popularity, recieving airplay on MTV and a large following. As NIN's popularity increased, TVT then changed their mind and ordered Trent to create another Pretty Hate Machine due to the album's success. When TVT began to take over creative control, and refusing to terminate the contract, Trent refused to release another album. However, he secretly recorded the Broken EP in this time, which was delibartely deliberately made very loud and abrasive as a "fuck you" to the labelling of NIN as synthpop by TVT. At that time, Jimmy Iovine of Interscope Records, in discussions with NIN's manger, John Malm (who wasn't part of TVT) managed to transfer him to Interscope, at the same time giving him creative control as well as his own vanity label, Nothing Records. ''Broken'' was finally released in 1992. Then in 2004, Trent Reznor sued John Malm after he accused him of owing him $2 million, and it emerged that Malm had taken advantage of Trent during his alcohol addiction. Trent won the suit, and Nothing Records collapsed. In 2007, he then left Interscope after a dispute over the label's overpricing of ''Year Zero'' in Australia, and afterwards going independent. However, in 2012 he returned to major labels due to issues with promoting independently, albeit with a specially negotiated contract.
23rd Oct '16 4:52:55 AM Morgenthaler
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** [[{{Music/Ministry}} 1000 Homo DJ's]] 1990 ''Supernaut'' EP suffered from some collateral damage from this conflict: Trent Reznor recorded vocals for the title track (a Music/BlackSabbath cover), but TVT refused to let him appear on anything released by another label (in this case Wax Trax!) - Ultimately, Al Jourgensen recorded the vocals instead. The "Trent Reznor Vocal Version" finally saw an official release on the 1994 box set ''Black Box � Wax Trax! Records: The First 13 Years'' - Ironically, said box set was released by TVT, who had recently purchased Wax Trax!.

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** [[{{Music/Ministry}} 1000 Homo DJ's]] 1990 ''Supernaut'' EP suffered from some collateral damage from this conflict: Trent Reznor recorded vocals for the title track (a Music/BlackSabbath cover), but TVT refused to let him appear on anything released by another label (in this case Wax Trax!) - Ultimately, Al Jourgensen recorded the vocals instead. The "Trent Reznor Vocal Version" finally saw an official release on the 1994 box set ''Black Box -- Wax Trax! Records: The First 13 Years'' - Ironically, said box set was released by TVT, who had recently purchased Wax Trax!.
23rd Oct '16 4:52:32 AM Morgenthaler
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* One of the themes in ''ThatThingYouDo''.

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* One of the themes in ''ThatThingYouDo''.''Film/ThatThingYouDo''.



* ''{{Smash}}'' covers some of this in terms of Broadway stars.

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* ''{{Smash}}'' ''Series/{{Smash}}'' covers some of this in terms of Broadway stars.
23rd Oct '16 4:52:14 AM Morgenthaler
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* ''{{Jem}}'' arguably has shades of this.

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