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14th Mar '18 11:15:04 AM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* Many would argue (and she [[WordOfGod basically confirms this in a 60 Minutes interview]]) that Music/LadyGaga's fame came as a result of her being GenreSavvy enough to work the system to her advantage. She spent several years writing for other artists before trying to make it on her own. As a result, she knew to play by the record label's rules by pumping out [[EarWorm ridiculously catchy]] songs about [[IntercourseWithYou love]] and [[MoneyDearBoy success]], and when she made it big she was pretty much given license to do whatever she wanted. Compare her first album, ''The Fame'', to her second, ''The Fame Monster'', which more or less [[DeconstructedTrope deconstructs]] all the SexSells and MoneyDearBoy tropes used in the former.

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* Many would argue (and she [[WordOfGod basically confirms this in a 60 Minutes interview]]) that Music/LadyGaga's fame came as a result of her being GenreSavvy enough to work working the system to her advantage. She spent several years writing for other artists before trying to make it on her own. As a result, she knew to play by the record label's rules by pumping out [[EarWorm ridiculously catchy]] songs about [[IntercourseWithYou love]] and [[MoneyDearBoy success]], and when she made it big she was pretty much given license to do whatever she wanted. Compare her first album, ''The Fame'', to her second, ''The Fame Monster'', which more or less [[DeconstructedTrope deconstructs]] all the SexSells and MoneyDearBoy tropes used in the former.
14th Mar '18 6:12:16 AM Sapphirea2
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* ''Behind the Music'' dealt with this trope frequently in terms of individual artists/groups and eras of music. For example in "1981", a look at the launch of MTV points out that while it would soon give huge boosts to many artists -- particularly Music/NewWave groups -- it left behind many other performers. They might have been doing well up to that point on radio, album sales, etc. but weren't suited to the MusicVideo form because they were too old, too unphotogenic, too mellow, didn't skew young, etc. The given example in the episode is Christopher Cross, the performer who won Record, Album, '''and''' Song of the Year Grammy Awards early that year and would chart his second Number One single ([[Film/{{Arthur}} "Arthur's Theme"]]) a few months afterward, but saw little MTV airplay due to his chosen genre (soft rock) and less-than-glamorous appearance.

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* ''Behind the Music'' dealt with this trope frequently in terms of individual artists/groups and eras of music. For example in "1981", a look at the launch of MTV points out that while it would soon give huge boosts to many artists -- particularly Music/NewWave NewWaveMusic groups -- it left behind many other performers. They might have been doing well up to that point on radio, album sales, etc. but weren't suited to the MusicVideo form because they were too old, too unphotogenic, too mellow, didn't skew young, etc. The given example in the episode is Christopher Cross, the performer who won Record, Album, '''and''' Song of the Year Grammy Awards early that year and would chart his second Number One single ([[Film/{{Arthur}} "Arthur's Theme"]]) a few months afterward, but saw little MTV airplay due to his chosen genre (soft rock) and less-than-glamorous appearance.
14th Mar '18 6:11:05 AM Sapphirea2
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* ''Behind the Music'' dealt with this trope frequently in terms of individual artists/groups and eras of music. For example in "1981", a look at the launch of MTV points out that while it would soon give huge boosts to many artists -- particularly NewWave groups -- it left behind many other performers. They might have been doing well up to that point on radio, album sales, etc. but weren't suited to the MusicVideo form because they were too old, too unphotogenic, too mellow, didn't skew young, etc. The given example in the episode is Christopher Cross, the performer who won Record, Album, '''and''' Song of the Year Grammy Awards early that year and would chart his second Number One single ([[Film/{{Arthur}} "Arthur's Theme"]]) a few months afterward, but saw little MTV airplay due to his chosen genre (soft rock) and less-than-glamorous appearance.

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* ''Behind the Music'' dealt with this trope frequently in terms of individual artists/groups and eras of music. For example in "1981", a look at the launch of MTV points out that while it would soon give huge boosts to many artists -- particularly NewWave Music/NewWave groups -- it left behind many other performers. They might have been doing well up to that point on radio, album sales, etc. but weren't suited to the MusicVideo form because they were too old, too unphotogenic, too mellow, didn't skew young, etc. The given example in the episode is Christopher Cross, the performer who won Record, Album, '''and''' Song of the Year Grammy Awards early that year and would chart his second Number One single ([[Film/{{Arthur}} "Arthur's Theme"]]) a few months afterward, but saw little MTV airplay due to his chosen genre (soft rock) and less-than-glamorous appearance.
12th Mar '18 2:53:01 PM KingLyger
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* One of [[Music/KoRn KoRn's]] music videos covers this.

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* One of [[Music/KoRn KoRn's]] The Music/{{KoRn}} music videos covers this.video for "Y'all Want a Single" is all about some of the statistics and numbers behind the music industry, along with [=KoRn=] destroying a music store for good measure as some BitingTheHandHumor. It even includes some SelfDeprecation by pointing out how much money it cost to shoot the music video.
6th Feb '18 10:26:01 AM Sapphirea2
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* The TV One show ''Unsung'' is stuffed with all kinds of sordid tales regarding politics and the business side of the music industry. Barry Gordy might be the worst depicted person in the docudrama.

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* The TV One show ''Unsung'' is stuffed with all kinds of sordid tales regarding politics and the business side of the music industry. Barry Gordy Berry Gordy, notorious master of Motown, might be the worst depicted worst-depicted person in the docudrama.



* A lot of cynics think there's a element of this in play when it comes to [[AwardShow Award Shows]] and [[AwardSnub Award Snubs]], .

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* A lot of cynics think there's a element of this in play when it comes to [[AwardShow Award Shows]] and [[AwardSnub Award Snubs]], .
Snubs]].
* ''Behind the Music'' dealt with this trope frequently in terms of individual artists/groups and eras of music. For example in "1981", a look at the launch of MTV points out that while it would soon give huge boosts to many artists -- particularly NewWave groups -- it left behind many other performers. They might have been doing well up to that point on radio, album sales, etc. but weren't suited to the MusicVideo form because they were too old, too unphotogenic, too mellow, didn't skew young, etc. The given example in the episode is Christopher Cross, the performer who won Record, Album, '''and''' Song of the Year Grammy Awards early that year and would chart his second Number One single ([[Film/{{Arthur}} "Arthur's Theme"]]) a few months afterward, but saw little MTV airplay due to his chosen genre (soft rock) and less-than-glamorous appearance.
2nd Feb '18 8:30:09 AM TSims
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* A lot of cynics think there's a element of this when it comes to AwardSnub, and AwardShow

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* A lot of cynics think there's a element of this in play when it comes to AwardSnub, [[AwardShow Award Shows]] and AwardShow
[[AwardSnub Award Snubs]], .
2nd Feb '18 8:26:52 AM TSims
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* A lot of cynics think there's a element of this when it comes to AwardSnub, and AwardShows

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* A lot of cynics think there's a element of this when it comes to AwardSnub, and AwardShows
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2nd Feb '18 8:26:11 AM TSims
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* A lot of cynics think there's a element of this when it comes to AwardSnub, and AwardShows
25th Jan '18 2:06:52 PM TSims
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* [[http://www.allhiphop.com/stories/features/archive/2011/03/22/22621302.aspx This depressing interview]] by Music/BoneThugsNHarmony's Krayzie Bone explaining why Bone will never be able to reestablish themselves due in part to internal conflict and this trope combined.

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* [[http://www.allhiphop.com/stories/features/archive/2011/03/22/22621302.aspx chronicle.co.zw/krayzie-bone-waiting-for-never-part-2/ This depressing interview]] by Music/BoneThugsNHarmony's Krayzie Bone explaining why Bone will never be able to reestablish themselves due in part to internal conflict and this trope combined.combined. Basically they wanted to integrate Bizzy[[note]]Left the group because of substance abuse and his neurotic behavior.[[/note]], and Flesh[[note]] Was fresh out of prison from serving a 10 year bid over...well LOTS of stuff, ranging from gun charges, to making terrorist threats[[/note]] back into the group after their success as a trio. But Interscope was weary because of the scary reputation those two had. On top of that Krayzie was already having issues with the current line up, so he announced he was leaving the group and Interscope dropped the group altogether. All 5 reformed under Warner Bros in 2010. But Warner mismanaged the group's album, causing Krayzie to regret leaving Interscope as they at least knew how to promote the group. So this is a case of Music Is Politics, ''AND'' NiceJobBreakingItHero.
25th Jan '18 1:27:20 PM TSims
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** Recently, she was allegedly pressured to [[HollywoodPudgy lose weight]].
* Music/NewEdition learned this the hard way when they were first starting out.

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** Recently, she She was also allegedly pressured to [[HollywoodPudgy lose weight]].
* Music/NewEdition learned this the hard way when they were first starting out. They were pretty much the biggest pop group in the world at the time. But after a huge tour their tour but dropped them off right in front of their Bostonian housing project....''flat BROKE''. New Edition is probably one of the worst cases of child exploitation in the history of the music biz.



* Some see Music/MileyCyrus's HotterAndSexier look as this. Basically she's just trying to sell records, and get attention through the controversy. Let's be honest here, it's not like she didn't know this would cause controversy. Could also make the argument that she likely did it to get out of ContractualPurity which she might see as holding her back. In addition to all the above she's also maturing and getting older, so this and all of the above are all reasons for the new look. But it's hard not to believe that record sales aren't the real goal.

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* Some see Music/MileyCyrus's HotterAndSexier HotterAndSexier, Hip-Hop look as this. Basically she's just trying to sell records, and get attention through the controversy. Let's be honest here, it's not like she didn't know this would cause controversy. Could also make the argument that she likely did it to get out of ContractualPurity which she might see as holding her back. In addition to all the above she's also maturing and getting older, so this and all of the above are all reasons for the new look. But it's hard not to believe that record sales aren't the real goal. Especially after she eventually dropped the image, causing some critics and fans to accuse her of cultural appropriation.



* This might be the cause of [=LeAnn=] Rimes' latest album stalling.

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* This might be the cause of [=LeAnn=] Rimes' latest album stalling.hit this trope hard later in her career.
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