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11th May '13 5:27:33 PM Schroeder

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11th May '13 4:50:11 PM Schroeder

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* At least according to recent (reputable) biographies on the artist, EltonJohn was a victim of record label politics and legal issues in much of TheEighties. He left his original American distributors, MCA Records, in less-than-friendly terms, him feeling that they had done a poor job promoting his late-[[TheSeventies 1970's]] releases (though it did not help matters when Elton laid off most to all of his classic band by 1975, stopped working with producer Gus Dudgeon by 1978, had little involvement with original lyricist Bernie Taupin and had by 1976 [[StraightGay come out as bisexual]], [[ValuesDissonance costing him much of his market in Middle America and rock radio in the process]] and Elton sued MCA for breach of contract for not paying for Elton's next album, 1981's ''The Fox''. Elton joined GeffenRecords in 1981, hoping that the then-new label would treat him better. The counter-lawsuit MCA gave Elton alleged that part of ''The Fox'' was comprised of 1979 recordings made when Elton was still signed to the label, meaning that MCA would have the rights to release the album. Geffen felt it in their best interests not to heavily promote ''The Fox'' to make it less commercially attractive to convince MCA to settle, or to make it less of an incentive in case MCA won the rights.
** There were also rumors that Geffen's founder, David Geffen had invited Elton to appear at be the premiere of {{Cats}} in 1982, which Geffen helped to finance, only for Elton to politely turn the invitation down as he was rehearsing for a tour. This supposedly angered David so much that he might have sabotaged promotion of Elton's albums and singles from then on, and though ''Too Low For Zero'' was a resounding success and he had a few more hits in the decade, the albums sold (and were promoted less and less).  By the time of the end of Elton's contract in 1986, he had released the Contractual Obligation album, ''Leather Jackets'', an experiment in '80's synth-pop, and an inconsistent commercial failure. He rejoined MCA in 1987.

11th May '13 4:43:25 PM Schroeder

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* NineInchNails is a notable example due to Trent Reznor fighting back against this on multiple ocassions. Firstly, after the first album ''Pretty Hate Machine'' was released in 1989, it initially didn't make much of an impact in terms of sales (the record label expected "Down In It" to become a radio hit). As a result, TVT Records ordered Trent to make a more successful album. Despite this, as NIN toured, the album grew in popularity, recieving airplay on MTV and a large following. As NIN's popularity increased, TVT then changed their mind and ordered Trent to create another Pretty Hate Machine due to the album's success. When TVT began to take over creative control, and refusing to terminate the contract, Trent refused to release another album. However, he secretly recorded the Broken EP in this time, which was delibartely made very loud and abrasive as a "fuck you" to the labelling of NIN as synthpop by TVT. At that time, Jimmy Iovine of Interscope Records, in discussions with NIN's manger, John Malm (who wasn't part of TVT) managed to transfer him to Interscope, at the same time giving him creative control as well as his own vanity label, Nothing Records. ''Broken'' was finally released in 1992. Then in 2004, Trent Reznor sued John Malm after he accused him of owing him $2 million, and it emerged that Malm had taken advantage of Trent during his alcohol addiction. Trent won the suit, and Nothing Records collapsed. In 2007, he then left Interscope after a dispute over the label's overpricing of ''Year Zero'' in Australia, and afterwards going independent. However, in 2012 he returned to major labels due to issues with promoting independently, albeit with a specially negotiated contract.
* At least according to recent (reputable) biographies on the artist, EltonJohn was a victim of record label politics and legal issues in much of TheEighties. He left his original American distributors, MCA Records, in less-than-friendly terms, him feeling that they had done a poor job promoting his late-[[TheSeventies 1970's]] releases (though it did not help matters when Elton laid off most to all of his classic band by 1975, stopped working with producer Gus Dudgeon by 1978, had little involvement with original lyricist Bernie Taupin and had by 1976 [[StraightGay come out as bisexual]], [[ValuesDissonance costing him much of his market in Middle America and rock radio in the process]] and Elton sued MCA for breach of contract for not paying for Elton's next album, 1981's ''The Fox''.  Elton joined GeffenRecords in 1981, hoping that the then-new label would treat him better. The counter-lawsuit MCA gave Elton alleged that part of ''The Fox'' was comprised of 1979 recordings made when Elton was still signed to the label, meaning that MCA would have the rights to release the album. Geffen felt it in their best interests not to heavily promote ''The Fox'' to make it less commercially attractive to convince MCA to settle, or to make it less of an incentive in case MCA won the rights.

30th Apr '13 10:20:33 AM LetItSwim

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30th Apr '13 10:19:55 AM LetItSwim

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* [[http://www.cracked.com/article_20256_5-things-record-labels-dont-want-you-to-know-they-do.html This Cracked article]]
* NineInchNails is a notable example due to Trent Reznor fighting back against this on multiple ocassions. Firstly, after the first album ''Pretty Hate Machine'' was released in 1989, it initially didn't make much of an impact in terms of sales (the record label expected "Down. As a result, TVT Records ordered Trent to make a more successful album. Despite this, as NIN toured, the album grew in popularity, recieving airplay on MTV and a large following. As NIN's popularity increased, TVT then changed their mind and ordered Trent to create another Pretty Hate Machine due to the album's success. When TVT began to take over creative control, and refusing to terminate the contract, Trent refused to release another album. However, he secretly recorded the Broken EP in this time, which was delibartely made very loud and abrasive as a "fuck you" to the labelling of NIN as synthpop by TVT. At that time, Jimmy Iovine of Interscope Records, in discussions with NIN's manger, John Malm (who wasn't part of TVT) managed to transfer him to Interscope, at the same time giving him creative control as well as  his own vanity label, Nothing Records. ''Broken'' was finally released in 1992. Then in 2004, Trent Reznor sued John Malm after he accused him of owing him $2 million, and it emerged that Malm had taken advantage of Trent during his alcohol addiction. Trent won the suit, and Nothing Records collapsed. In 2007, he then left Interscope after a dispute over the label's overpricing of ''Year Zero'' in Australia, and afterwards going independent. However, in 2012 he returned to major labels due to issues with promoting independently, albeit with a specially negotiated contract.

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