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* ''Film/{{The Avengers|2012}}'' has a character like this called "the Other" who greatly resembles the TropeNamer[[note]][[http://i.imgur.com/0XA0x1v.jpg If you recognise Alexis Denisof underneath the makeup and phalanging, you win a star.]][[/note]] and, in the opening scene, facilitates the deal with Loki for an army in exchange for the Tesseract. Midway through, the two of them have a psychic conversation about how much Loki owes their master and how boned he'll be if he can't make good on his word. [[spoiler:TheStinger reveals that he's working for Thanos.]]

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* ''Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse''
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''Film/{{The Avengers|2012}}'' has a character like this called "the Other" who greatly resembles the TropeNamer[[note]][[http://i.imgur.com/0XA0x1v.jpg If you recognise Alexis Denisof underneath the makeup and phalanging, you win a star.]][[/note]] and, in the opening scene, facilitates the deal with Loki for an army in exchange for the Tesseract. Midway through, the two of them have a psychic conversation about how much Loki owes their master and how boned he'll be if he can't make good on his word. [[spoiler:TheStinger reveals that he's working for Thanos.]]
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* One would say the Secretary Ship Nagato serves in this capacity for the Admiral in the anime adaptation of ''VideoGame/KantaiCollection'', relaying deployment orders and instructions to the rest of the fleet girls.



* One would say the Secretary Ship Nagato serves in this capacity for the Admiral in the anime adaptation of ''VideoGame/KantaiCollection'', relaying deployment orders and instructions to the rest of the fleet girls.



* During the 90s Exodus served this role to ComicBook/{{Magneto}} in ''Franchise/XMen'', even calling himself the "Voice of Magneto".
** The 90s also introduced Ozymandias, a character created to serve this role for ComicBook/{{Apocalypse}}.

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* During In the 90s ''Franchise/XMen'' comics during the 90s, Exodus served this role to ComicBook/{{Magneto}} in ''Franchise/XMen'', even calling outright called himself the "Voice of Magneto".
** The 90s also introduced Ozymandias, a character created to serve
ComicBook/{{Magneto}}," while Ozymandias served this role for ComicBook/{{Apocalypse}}.



* In [[http://www.fimfiction.net/story/99980/nightmare-lulamoon Nightmare Lulamoon,]] Trixie takes this role for Nightmare Moon, because Nightmare Moon is little more then her EnemyWithin due to being hit with the Elements of Harmony.
* In [[http://www.fimfiction.net/story/196256/the-moons-apprentice The Moon's Apprentice,]] Twilight Sparkle takes this role when recruiting allies to help her and Nightmare Moon.

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* In [[http://www.''[[http://www.fimfiction.net/story/99980/nightmare-lulamoon Nightmare Lulamoon,]] Trixie net/story/196256/the-moons-apprentice The Moon's Apprentice]]'', Twilight Sparkle takes this role for when recruiting allies to help her and Nightmare Moon, because Nightmare Moon is little more then her EnemyWithin due to being hit with the Elements of Harmony.
Moon.
* In [[http://www.''[[http://www.fimfiction.net/story/196256/the-moons-apprentice The Moon's Apprentice,]] Twilight Sparkle net/story/99980/nightmare-lulamoon Nightmare Lulamoon]]'', Trixie takes this role when recruiting allies to help her and for Nightmare Moon.Moon, because Nightmare Moon is little more then her EnemyWithin due to being hit with the Elements of Harmony.



* ''Film/TheLordOfTheRings'' gives the trope namer, and image atop this page: the Mouth of [[BigBad Sauron]].
* Metatron shows up as one of the central characters of ''Film/{{Dogma}}''. Amusingly, he is not a part of Christian {{canon}} at all.
** He ''is'' a legitimate part of ''Jewish'' canon, though.
* ''Franchise/StarWars'': Darth Vader, in addition to serving as TheDragon, performs this duty for Emperor Palpatine. It's not obvious at first glance, but notice that Vader has frequent contact with Imperial commanders, to whom he frequently gives commands. Palpatine is ''never'' shown speaking to any of his other underlings except Vader in the original trilogy (with the exception of [[spoiler:"Fire at will, commander!"]]
* "Mr. Kobayashi" serves as the voice and agent for Keyser Soze in ''Film/TheUsualSuspects''. It turns out that this person [[spoiler:is one of the few factual elements from Verbal's story]].
** [[spoiler: His existence is factual at any rate. Anything Kint said about his involvement is open for debate.]]
* In ''Film/{{Equilibrium}}'', Libria dictator "Father" is all over the television, but almost no one meets him personally. Vice-Council Dumont is explicitly described as "Father's Voice." Turns out [[spoiler:to be a subversion: the real Father died years before, and Dumont is actually running things while ''pretending'' to be the MouthOfSauron]].

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* ''Film/TheLordOfTheRings'' films gives us the trope namer, and image atop this page: the Mouth of [[BigBad Sauron]].
* Metatron shows up as one of the central characters of ''Film/{{Dogma}}''. Amusingly, he is not a part of Christian {{canon}} at all.
** He ''is'' a legitimate part of ''Jewish'' canon, though.
* ''Franchise/StarWars'': Darth Vader, in addition to serving as TheDragon, performs this duty for Emperor Palpatine. It's not obvious at first glance, but notice that Vader has frequent contact with Imperial commanders, to whom he frequently gives commands. Palpatine is ''never'' shown speaking to any of his other underlings except Vader
page image, though only in the original trilogy (with the exception of [[spoiler:"Fire at will, commander!"]]
* "Mr. Kobayashi" serves as the voice and agent for Keyser Soze in ''Film/TheUsualSuspects''. It turns out that this person [[spoiler:is one of the few factual elements from Verbal's story]].
** [[spoiler: His existence is factual at any rate. Anything Kint said about his involvement is open for debate.]]
* In ''Film/{{Equilibrium}}'', Libria dictator "Father" is all over the television, but almost no one meets him personally. Vice-Council Dumont is explicitly described as "Father's Voice." Turns out [[spoiler:to be a subversion: the real Father died years before, and Dumont is actually running things while ''pretending'' to be the MouthOfSauron]].
Extended Edition.



* Guy Shepard from ''Film/TheWorldsEnd''.
* Billy the CreepyDoll in the ''Franchise/{{Saw}}'' films, who speaks for Jigsaw to his victims.



* Metatron shows up as one of the central characters of ''Film/{{Dogma}}''.
* In ''Film/{{Equilibrium}}'', Libria dictator "Father" is all over the television, but almost no one meets him personally. Vice-Council Dumont is explicitly described as "Father's Voice." Turns out [[spoiler:to be a subversion: the real Father died years before, and Dumont is actually running things while ''pretending'' to be the MouthOfSauron]].



* Billy the CreepyDoll in the ''Franchise/{{Saw}}'' films, who speaks for Jigsaw to his victims.
* ''Franchise/StarWars'': Darth Vader, in addition to serving as TheDragon, performs this duty for Emperor Palpatine. It's not obvious at first glance, but notice that Vader has frequent contact with Imperial commanders, to whom he frequently gives commands. Palpatine is ''never'' shown speaking to any of his other underlings except Vader in the original trilogy (with the exception of [[spoiler:"Fire at will, commander!"]]
* "Mr. Kobayashi" serves as the voice and agent for Keyser Soze in ''Film/TheUsualSuspects''. It turns out that this person [[spoiler:is one of the few factual elements from Verbal's story]].
** [[spoiler: His existence is factual at any rate. Anything Kint said about his involvement is open for debate.]]
* Guy Shepard from ''Film/TheWorldsEnd''.



* Walker, from Simon R. Green's ''Literature/{{Nightside}}'' series is the Voice of the Authorities, the hidden rulers of the Nightside.

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* Walker, from Simon R. Green's ''Literature/{{Nightside}}'' series In ''Literature/ColdfireTrilogy'', this is exploited and inverted by the Hunter Gerald Tarrant. He makes frequent visits to places outside of the Forest pretending to be a mere servant of the Hunter. It helps that almost nobody knows what the Hunter actually looks like or if he's even human. He explains to Damien that it's more convenient this way -- people don't mess with him out of fear of provoking his "master's" wrath. On the other hand, if he showed up as the Hunter, everyone would be trying to kill him in the hopes of getting in a lucky shot (it would have to be a ''very'' lucky shot, since he's a master of earth and dark ''fae'' who once easily defeated an army the Church sent into the Forest after him [[OneManArmy by himself]]).
* In ''Literature/ConsiderPhlebas'', Bora Horza Gobuchul, the primary protagonist who hates Literature/TheCulture alleges that his Balveda is one of these for the Culture, in that while she (an attractive humanoid) presents herself to outsiders as its representative, the actual representative of the Culture
is the Voice knife-missile armed drone hovering next to her.
* In ''Literature/TheDinosaurLords'', [[spoiler:Violette]] becomes the voice
of the Authorities, the hidden rulers of the Nightside.horde's leader, as he's above talking to [[SonOfAnApe apes]]. He somehow beams his intent to her mind and she speaks for him even when he's present.



* In the WheelOfTime series, [[http://wot.wikia.com/wiki/Shaidar_Haran Shaidar Haran]] (nicknamed "Superfade" by fans) acts as the mouth of the Dark One, never getting personally involved but giving direct orders (and threats) to the Forsaken. [[spoiler: It's eventually revealed that Haran essentially ''is'' the Dark One, or at least a less powerful copy of his personality, and gets reabsorbed into him when the Dark One is able to affect the world enough that he doesn't need a mouthpiece anymore]].
* Creator/EEDocSmith's [[Literature/{{Lensman}} Galactic Patrol]] features the Eddorian mouthpiece who always starts his speeches "Helmuth, speaking for Boskone".

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* In A heroic example in ''Literature/HorusHeresy''. With the WheelOfTime series, [[http://wot.wikia.com/wiki/Shaidar_Haran Shaidar Haran]] (nicknamed "Superfade" by fans) acts as Emperor being locked up and warring beneath the mouth of Imperial Palace, Malcador - the Dark One, never getting personally involved but giving direct orders (and threats) to only person with psychic contact with him - becomes his herald and regent, telling the Forsaken. [[spoiler: It's eventually revealed that Haran essentially ''is'' the Dark One, or at least a less powerful copy of his personality, Imperium its Emperor's will, and gets reabsorbed sometimes even turning into him when the Dark One is able to affect the world enough that he doesn't need a mouthpiece anymore]].
WillingChanneler for [[FanNickname Emps]].
* Creator/EEDocSmith's [[Literature/{{Lensman}} Galactic Patrol]] features Literature/{{Lensman}} stories feature the Eddorian mouthpiece who always starts his speeches "Helmuth, speaking for Boskone".



* Walker, from Simon R. Green's ''Literature/{{Nightside}}'' series is the Voice of the Authorities, the hidden rulers of the Nightside.



* In ''Literature/ConsiderPhlebas'', Bora Horza Gobuchul, the primary protagonist who hates Literature/TheCulture alleges that his Balveda is one of these for the Culture, in that while she (an attractive humanoid) presents herself to outsiders as its representative, the actual representative of the Culture is the knife-missile armed drone hovering next to her.
* In ''Literature/ColdfireTrilogy'', this is exploited and inverted by the Hunter Gerald Tarrant. He makes frequent visits to places outside of the Forest pretending to be a mere servant of the Hunter. It helps that almost nobody knows what the Hunter actually looks like or if he's even human. He explains to Damien that it's more convenient this way -- people don't mess with him out of fear of provoking his "master's" wrath. On the other hand, if he showed up as the Hunter, everyone would be trying to kill him in the hopes of getting in a lucky shot (it would have to be a ''very'' lucky shot, since he's a master of earth and dark ''fae'' who once easily defeated an army the Church sent into the Forest after him [[OneManArmy by himself]]).
* A heroic example in ''Literature/HorusHeresy''. With the Emperor being locked up and warring beneath the Imperial Palace, Malcador - the only person with psychic contact with him - becomes his herald and regent, telling the Imperium its Emperor's will, and sometimes even turning into WillingChanneler for [[FanNickname Emps]].
* In ''Literature/TheDinosaurLords'', [[spoiler:Violette]] becomes the voice of the horde's leader, as he's above talking to [[SonOfAnApe apes]]. He somehow beams his intent to her mind and she speaks for him even when he's present.

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* In ''Literature/ConsiderPhlebas'', Bora Horza Gobuchul, the primary protagonist who hates Literature/TheCulture alleges that his Balveda is one of these for ''Literature/WheelOfTime'' series, [[http://wot.wikia.com/wiki/Shaidar_Haran Shaidar Haran]] (nicknamed "Superfade" by fans) acts as the Culture, in that while she (an attractive humanoid) presents herself to outsiders as its representative, the actual representative mouth of the Culture is the knife-missile armed drone hovering next to her.
* In ''Literature/ColdfireTrilogy'', this is exploited and inverted by the Hunter Gerald Tarrant. He makes frequent visits to places outside of the Forest pretending to be a mere servant of the Hunter. It helps that almost nobody knows what the Hunter actually looks like or if he's even human. He explains to Damien that it's more convenient this way -- people don't mess with him out of fear of provoking his "master's" wrath. On the other hand, if he showed up as the Hunter, everyone would be trying to kill him in the hopes of
Dark One, never getting in a lucky shot (it would have personally involved but giving direct orders (and threats) to be the Forsaken. [[spoiler: It's eventually revealed that Haran essentially ''is'' the Dark One, or at least a ''very'' lucky shot, since he's a master less powerful copy of earth his personality, and dark ''fae'' who once easily defeated an army the Church sent gets reabsorbed into the Forest after him [[OneManArmy by himself]]).
* A heroic example in ''Literature/HorusHeresy''. With the Emperor being locked up and warring beneath the Imperial Palace, Malcador - the only person with psychic contact with him - becomes his herald and regent, telling the Imperium its Emperor's will, and sometimes even turning into WillingChanneler for [[FanNickname Emps]].
* In ''Literature/TheDinosaurLords'', [[spoiler:Violette]] becomes the voice of the horde's leader, as he's above talking to [[SonOfAnApe apes]]. He somehow beams his intent to her mind and she speaks for him even
when he's present.
the Dark One is able to affect the world enough that he doesn't need a mouthpiece anymore]].



* Bosley from ''Series/CharliesAngels'', for Charlie... though the phone is a more literal example.
* This is effectively [[spoiler:Richard Alpert]]'s job on ''Series/{{Lost}}'': to act as a representative for [[spoiler:Jacob]] so [[spoiler:Jacob]] doesn't have to interact with anyone directly.
** Lennon also does this for Dogen in season 6 as well as act as a translator, although it's a less solid example, as Dogen is always present for these conversations and [[spoiler:it's soon shown that he can understand English perfectly, he just doesn't often care to directly interact with people]].

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* Bosley from ''Series/CharliesAngels'', for Charlie... though ''Series/AgentsOfSHIELD'': Edison Po is the phone is a more literal example.
* This is effectively [[spoiler:Richard Alpert]]'s job on ''Series/{{Lost}}'': to act as a representative for [[spoiler:Jacob]] so [[spoiler:Jacob]] doesn't have to interact with anyone directly.
** Lennon also does this for Dogen in season 6 as well as act as a translator, although it's a less solid example, as Dogen is always present for these conversations and [[spoiler:it's soon shown that he can understand English perfectly, he just doesn't often care to
only member of [[NebulousEvilOrganization Centipede]] who speaks directly interact to their [[TheGhost mysterious]] leader, The Clairvoyant, and passes on his orders. [[spoiler: In "The Magical Place", the Clairvoyant kills him and replaces him with people]].[[TheHeavy Raina]]. And after Raina's arrest, at the end of that episode Ian Quinn seems to have replaced her. As of ''his'' arrest in "T.R.A.C.K.S.", the Clairvoyant seems to have abandoned having a Mouth of Sauron in favor of a [[TheBrute Brute]], Deathlok.]]
* In the first season of ''{{Series/Alias}}'', Mr. Sark served in this role for "The Man," who revealed their identity in the season finale. Afterward, he just became TheDragon and, often, TheHeavy.



* A latino gang in an episode of ''Series/{{NCIS}}'' was essentially being run by someone pretending to be this. Gibbs reveals this to some lower gang lieutenants, revealing that they and Gibbs' team were both played for fools, and that Gibbs has nothing he can stick on him, implying that the other gang members need to dispose of the Mouth of Sauron member for his duplicity.

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* Bosley from ''Series/CharliesAngels'', for Charlie... though the phone is a more literal example.
* In ''Series/DoctorWho'', Daleks cannot exposit for any length of time, due to their slow speech. (Just imagine a Dalek barking, '[[AC:Have a nice cup of tea and sit down, this may take a while!]]') So, Davros was introduced as their humanoid creator. Of course the gag with Davros is that he talks and acts exactly like a Dalek himself, breaking his words into syllables and screaming his lungs out, but he also spends a good deal of time chatting politely with the Doctor.
-->'''[[http://them0vieblog.com/2015/09/26/doctor-who-the-witchs-familiar-review/ Darren Mooney]]''': One of the smarter touches of ''[[Recap/DoctorWhoS35E1TheMagiciansApprentice The Magician’s Apprentice]]'' was to delineate the two. ''“I created the Daleks,”'' Davros advises the Doctor. ''“I do not control them.”'' So, if Davros is separated from the Daleks...then what exactly does he do? ''[[Recap/DoctorWhoS35E2TheWitchsFamiliar The Witch’s Familiar]]'' suggests that the answer is quite simple. Davros does what Davros always does. Davros talks.
** The Time Lords in the Classic Series would occasionally send someone to relay a message to the Doctor. In "Terror of the Autons" one travels 29,000 light years to warn the 3rd Doctor the Master has come to Earth, though his coordinates slipping means he appears in mid-air. In "Genesis of the Daleks" in a scene partially based on [[Film/TheSeventhSeal The Seventh Seal]] a Time Lord appears to tell the 4th Doctor he has been sent to Skaro to avert the creation of the Daleks.
** In AudioPlay/BigFinishDoctorWho, in the New Eighth Doctor Adventures and the first Dark Eyes Straxus takes this role.
* In ''Series/FallingSkies'' the aliens have to use one of these, as the Espheni are a purely telepathic race and the Skitters speak an incomprehensible language. They typically use a harnessed child, with [[spoiler:Karen]] as one for the primary Espheni, eventually becoming TheDragon. [[spoiler:And later still, a DragonAscendant]].
* In Season 4 of ''Series/{{Justified}}'' Adam Arkin was unavailable to reprise his role as Detroit mob boss, Theo Tonin. Accordingly Mike O'Malley was brought in to play Nicky Augustine, one of Theo's top henchmen, who coordinates the hunt for Drew Thompson, speaks on his behalf, and represents his interests in Harlan County, Kentucky.
* This is effectively [[spoiler:Richard Alpert]]'s job on ''Series/{{Lost}}'': to act as a representative for [[spoiler:Jacob]] so they don't have to interact with anyone directly.
** Lennon also does this for Dogen in season 6 as well as act as a translator, although it's a less solid example, as Dogen is always present for these conversations and [[spoiler:it's soon shown that he can understand English perfectly, he just doesn't often care to directly interact with people]].
* A latino Latino gang in an episode of ''Series/{{NCIS}}'' was essentially being run by someone pretending to be this. Gibbs reveals this to some lower gang lieutenants, revealing that they and Gibbs' team were both played for fools, and that Gibbs has nothing he can stick on him, implying that the other gang members need to dispose of the Mouth of Sauron member for his duplicity.duplicity.
* ''Series/PersonOfInterest'': One of the rare non-villainous versions with the [[BenevolentAI Machine]] and its "analogue interface", the {{Machine Worship}}ping Root. Normally Root just relays orders, but when things get serious, she can repeat what the Machine is telling her word for word as a mouthpiece. When its EvilCounterpart [[TheComputerIsYourFriend Samaritan]] appears on the scene, it chooses a child genius hacker called [[MeaningfulName Gabriel]] to communicate in a similar manner, whereupon the trope is played straight.



* This originally is the role that [[Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration Locutus]] was meant to play for the Borg (even [[MeaningfulName his name]] is Latin for "he who has spoken"). ''Film/StarTrekFirstContact'' {{retcon}}ned this so as to make Locutus's primary function that of a "counterpart" for the [[HiveQueen Borg Queen]].
** On ''Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine'', Weyoun serves as this for the Female Changeling. The Female Changeling, by extension, serves as the mouthpiece for all Changelings, and the Dominion as a whole.
*** The Vorta as a whole generally serve as this to the Founders, delivering the Founder's orders to subject races and the Jem'hadar, most of whom have never seen a Founder and, in the case of the former, really don't want to. One Dominion citizen descibes dealing with the Dominion as the Vorta show up on your world and tell you what to do, and then you do it immediately, or else you deal with the Jem'hadar.
* In the Kromaggs' first appearance on ''Series/{{Sliders}}'', they stood in the shadows and telepathically communed with a human slave who spoke on their behalf. She explained that the xenophobic aliens refused to speak a human language. [[spoiler:The ending revealed that they do speak English, and the supposed interpreter was only there to win the sliders' trust as a HeelFaceMole.]]



* In the Kromaggs' first appearance on ''Series/{{Sliders}}'', they stood in the shadows and telepathically communed with a human slave who spoke on their behalf. She explained that the xenophobic aliens refused to speak a human language. [[spoiler:The ending revealed that they do speak English, and the supposed interpreter was only there to win the sliders' trust as a HeelFaceMole.]]
* In ''Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration'', this was originally the role that Locutus was meant to play for the Borg (even [[MeaningfulName his name]] is Latin for "he who has spoken"). ''Film/StarTrekFirstContact'' {{retcon}}ned this so as to make Locutus's primary function that of a "counterpart" for the [[HiveQueen Borg Queen]].
* On ''Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine'', Weyoun serves as this for the Female Changeling. The Female Changeling, by extension, serves as the mouthpiece for all Changelings, and the Dominion as a whole.
** The Vorta as a whole generally serve as this to the Founders, delivering the Founder's orders to subject races and the Jem'hadar, most of whom have never seen a Founder and, in the case of the former, really don't want to. One Dominion citizen descibes dealing with the Dominion as the Vorta show up on your world and tell you what to do, and then you do it immediately, or else you deal with the Jem'hadar.



* ''Series/AgentsOfSHIELD'': Edison Po is the only member of [[NebulousEvilOrganization Centipede]] who speaks directly to their [[TheGhost mysterious]] leader, The Clairvoyant, and passes on his orders. [[spoiler: In "The Magical Place", the Clairvoyant kills him and replaces him with [[TheHeavy Raina]]. And after Raina's arrest, at the end of that episode Ian Quinn seems to have replaced her. As of ''his'' arrest in "T.R.A.C.K.S.", the Clairvoyant seems to have abandoned having a Mouth of Sauron in favor of a [[TheBrute Brute]], Deathlok.]]
* In the first season of ''{{Series/Alias}}'', Mr. Sark served in this role for "The Man," who revealed their identity in the season finale. Afterward, he just became TheDragon and, often, TheHeavy.
* In ''Series/FallingSkies'' the aliens have to use one of these, as the Espheni are a purely telepathic race and the Skitters speak an incomprehensible language. They typically use a harnessed child, with [[spoiler:Karen]] as one for the primary Espheni, eventually becoming TheDragon. [[spoiler:And later still, a DragonAscendant]].
* In ''[[Series/DoctorWho Doctor Who]]'', Daleks cannot exposit for any length of time, due to their slow speech. (Just imagine a Dalek barking, '[[AC:Have a nice cup of tea and sit down, this may take a while!]]') So, Davros was introduced as their humanoid creator. Of course the gag with Davros is that he talks and acts exactly like a Dalek himself, breaking his words into syllables and screaming his lungs out, but he also spends a good deal of time chatting politely with the Doctor.
-->'''[[http://them0vieblog.com/2015/09/26/doctor-who-the-witchs-familiar-review/ Darren Mooney]]''': One of the smarter touches of ''[[Recap/DoctorWhoS35E1TheMagiciansApprentice The Magician’s Apprentice]]'' was to delineate the two. ''“I created the Daleks,”'' Davros advises the Doctor. ''“I do not control them.”'' So, if Davros is separated from the Daleks...then what exactly does he do? ''[[Recap/DoctorWhoS35E2TheWitchsFamiliar The Witch’s Familiar]]'' suggests that the answer is quite simple. Davros does what Davros always does. Davros talks.
** The Time Lords in the Classic Series would occasionally send someone to relay a message to the Doctor. In "Terror of the Autons" one travels 29,000 light years to warn the 3rd Doctor the Master has come to Earth, though his coordinates slipping means he appears in mid-air. In "Genesis of the Daleks" in a scene partially based on [[Film/TheSeventhSeal The Seventh Seal]] a Time Lord appears to tell the 4th Doctor he has been sent to Skaro to avert the creation of the Daleks.
** In AudioPlay/BigFinishDoctorWho, in the New Eighth Doctor Adventures and the first Dark Eyes Straxus takes this role.
* In Season 4 of ''Series/{{Justified}}'' Adam Arkin was unavailable to reprise his role as Detroit mob boss, Theo Tonin. Accordingly Mike O'Malley was brought in to play Nicky Augustine, one of Theo's top henchmen, who coordinates the hunt for Drew Thompson, speaks on his behalf, and represents his interests in Harlan County, Kentucky.
* ''Series/PersonOfInterest'': One of the rare non-villainous versions with the [[BenevolentAI Machine]] and its "analogue interface", the {{Machine Worship}}ping Root. Normally Root just relays orders, but when things get serious, she can repeat what the Machine is telling her word for word as a mouthpiece. When it's EvilCounterpart [[TheComputerIsYourFriend Samaritan]] appears on the scene, it chooses a child genius hacker called [[MeaningfulName Gabriel]] to communicate in a similar manner, whereupon the trope is played straight.



* In the BackStory of ''TabletopGame/InNomine'', Metatron holds his traditional role. Lucifer kills him, starting off the events of the Fall.

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* In ''TabletopGame/{{Eberron}}'', the BackStory Dreaming Dark- essentially a living nightmare of ''TabletopGame/InNomine'', Metatron holds his traditional role. Lucifer kills him, starting off god-like proportions and the events GeniusLoci of the Fall.DreamWorld [[note]]confusingly, also the name of an organization dedicated to serving said entity[[/note]]- is one of the most powerful, evil threats facing the setting. However, it is so vast and incomprehensible that even its quori minions- nightmare spirits that themselves are somewhere between [[OurDemonsAreDifferent demons]] and {{Eldritch Abomination}}s- cannot commune with it directly without being overwhelmed. Only one quori, the Devourer of Dreams, possesses sufficient power to talk to the Dark directly, and his job is to tell the other quori what their master/god/thing wants done.



* In ''TabletopGame/{{Eberron}}'', the Dreaming Dark- essentially a living nightmare of god-like proportions and the GeniusLoci of the DreamWorld [[note]]confusingly, also the name of an organization dedicated to serving said entity[[/note]]- is one of the most powerful, evil threats facing the setting. However, it is so vast and incomprehensible that even its quori minions- nightmare spirits that themselves are somewhere between [[OurDemonsAreDifferent demons]] and {{Eldritch Abomination}}s- cannot commune with it directly without being overwhelmed. Only one quori, the Devourer of Dreams, possesses sufficient power to talk to the Dark directly, and his job is to tell the other quori what their master/god/thing wants done.

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* In ''TabletopGame/{{Eberron}}'', the Dreaming Dark- essentially a living nightmare BackStory of god-like proportions and ''TabletopGame/InNomine'', Metatron holds his traditional role. Lucifer kills him, starting off the GeniusLoci events of the DreamWorld [[note]]confusingly, also the name of an organization dedicated to serving said entity[[/note]]- is one of the most powerful, evil threats facing the setting. However, it is so vast and incomprehensible that even its quori minions- nightmare spirits that themselves are somewhere between [[OurDemonsAreDifferent demons]] and {{Eldritch Abomination}}s- cannot commune with it directly without being overwhelmed. Only one quori, the Devourer of Dreams, possesses sufficient power to talk to the Dark directly, and his job is to tell the other quori what their master/god/thing wants done. Fall.



* The Collector-General in ''VideoGame/MassEffect2'' serves this role for [[spoiler:Harbinger]], though Shepard never sees him, either (unless you play Arrival before the final mission). We sure do hear him, tho- '''''[[InterruptingMeme ASSUMING DIRECT CONTROL.]]'''''
* Kel'thuzad for the Lich King in ''VideoGame/WarcraftIII''. The dreadlords would like you to believe that they do the same job, but really they work for the Burning Legion and are there to ''control'' the Lich King, rather than serve him.

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* The Collector-General in ''VideoGame/MassEffect2'' serves this role for [[spoiler:Harbinger]], though Shepard never sees him, either (unless you play Arrival before Monokuma of the final mission). We sure do hear him, tho- '''''[[InterruptingMeme ASSUMING DIRECT CONTROL.]]'''''
* Kel'thuzad
''Franchise/{{Danganronpa}}'' franchise, a series of bear-shaped robots whose job it is to speak [[VisualNovel/{{Danganronpa}} to the]] [[VisualNovel/SuperDanganronpa2 students]] for the Lich King mastermind.
* Thomas Macabee, the Necron Pariah
in ''VideoGame/WarcraftIII''. The dreadlords would like you to believe ''VideoGame/DawnOfWar'': ''Dark Crusade''. Sort of. His master isn't this great unseen evil, in fact it's the Necron Lord of Kronus, your main HeroUnit in the campaign. It's just that they do [[TheVoiceless regular Necrons can't speak]], so the same job, but really they work Pariah speaks in his stead.
* There's no one else better in ''VideoGame/{{Earthbound}}'' to be the herald
for the Burning Legion and are there to ''control'' the Lich King, rather all-powerful but mindless [[EldritchAbomination Giygas]] than serve him.Ness's obnoxious neighbor Porky.
* ''Franchise/TheElderScrolls'' series has the Listener of the [[MurderInc Dark Brotherhood]], whose job is to receive contracts through [[EldritchAbomination The Night Mother]] and relays them through the Black Hand. Without a Listener, they can't receive any contracts the normal way, which forces them to rely on word-of-mouth to hear if anyone has performed the Black Sacrament (the ritual prayer for an assassination heard by the Night Mother and spoken to the Listener).
** VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIIIMorrowind has this as part of the [[EvilSorcerer Great House Telvanni]] questline. Since the mage-lords who rule the house are too busy with their various magical experimentation and backstabbing, in order for anything to actually get ''done'' they employ a council of personal servants actually ''called'' Mouths to attend to the day-to-day business and assign tasks to lower-ranking members to perform. As part of your advancement through the House, you have to first become a Mouth yourself to the House's most progressive Lord (his current one wants to retire) and then finally gain one yourself when ''you'' become one of those mage-lords. Interestingly enough, once you have a Mouth of your own, you can actually send ''him'' on quests for a couple of artifacts he think would be useful.



* Metatron also shows up in the ''Franchise/ShinMegamiTensei'' series, holding his usual role. YHVH does actually speak for himself in some of the earlier games, but starting with ''[[VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiIIINocturne Nocturne]]'' YHVH stopped taking direct action in the games' plots and now speaks exclusively through Metatron or one of his avatars.
** Beelzebub also serves Lucifer in this capacity as well, though the big man himself is quite active.
* In ''VideoGame/JadeEmpire'' Death's Hand appears to be abusing his position, with Emperor Sun Hai reduced to a figurehead- but it's eventually revealed that, rather than using his authority for his own advancement, Death's Hand is merely a tool of [[spoiler: the Emperor himself, who's avoiding taking the blame for the various atrocities he's having committed.]]

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* Metatron also shows up in the ''Franchise/ShinMegamiTensei'' series, holding his usual role. YHVH does actually speak for himself in some of the earlier games, but starting with ''[[VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiIIINocturne Nocturne]]'' YHVH stopped taking direct action in the games' plots and now speaks exclusively through Metatron or one of his avatars.
** Beelzebub also serves Lucifer in this capacity as well, though the big man himself is quite active.
* In ''VideoGame/JadeEmpire'' Death's Hand appears ''VideoGame/{{Evolve}}'', Kala is an unwilling example. Due to be abusing his position, with Emperor Sun Hai reduced the monster HNA [[HalfHumanHybrid overwhelming her own genetic code]], if she experiences enough trauma the monster hivemind will [[DemonicPossession overwhelm her]] and make her its mouthpiece. Suffice to a figurehead- but it's eventually revealed that, rather than using his authority say, the hivemind for his own advancement, Death's Hand is merely a tool legion of [[spoiler: perfect predators doesn't have the Emperor himself, who's avoiding taking the blame for the various atrocities he's having committed.]]nicest things to say.



* ''VideoGame/TheFourthAgeTotalWar'' is notable for using the TropeNamer himself to play with this trope. Namely, He/It survived the fall of his master and Mordor and fled into the shadows, only to assume the mantle of Dark Lord and BigBad [[spoiler: and the name of Herumor for himself. He's spent the last several years orchestrating]] the enemy attacks from without and corruption from within the Reunited Kingdom of Gondor and Rohan that have brought it low and seriously weakened it. It gets to the point that the part of the realm secedes as the "Kingdom of Adunabar" in Ithilien and Mordor. [[spoiler: Unfortunately, this kingdom and its' leader are in the thrall of Herumor and thus its' King is the MouthOfSauron to the former trope namer.]] However, since Adunabar can choose its own destiny, this trope might wind up [[NiceJobFixingItVillain backfiring on the Shadow.]]
* In ''VideoGame/JadeEmpire'' Death's Hand appears to be abusing his position, with Emperor Sun Hai reduced to a figurehead- but it's eventually revealed that, rather than using his authority for his own advancement, Death's Hand is merely a tool of [[spoiler: the Emperor himself, who's avoiding taking the blame for the various atrocities he's having committed.]]
* The Collector-General in ''VideoGame/MassEffect2'' serves this role for [[spoiler:Harbinger]], though Shepard never sees him, either (unless you play Arrival before the final mission). We sure do hear him, tho- '''''[[InterruptingMeme ASSUMING DIRECT CONTROL.]]'''''



* Thomas Macabee, the Necron Pariah in ''VideoGame/DawnOfWar'': ''Dark Crusade''. Sort of. His master isn't this great unseen evil, in fact it's the Necron Lord of Kronus, your main HeroUnit in the campaign. It's just that [[TheVoiceless regular Necrons can't speak]], so the Pariah speaks in his stead.
* ''Franchise/TheElderScrolls'' series has the Listener of the [[MurderInc Dark Brotherhood]], whose job is to receive contracts through [[EldritchAbomination The Night Mother]] and relays them through the Black Hand. Without a Listener, they can't receive any contracts the normal way, which forces them to rely on word-of-mouth to hear if anyone has performed the Black Sacrament (the ritual prayer for an assassination heard by the Night Mother and spoken to the Listener).
** VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIIIMorrowind has this as part of the [[EvilSorcerer Great House Telvanni]] questline. Since the mage-lords who rule the house are too busy with their various magical experimentation and backstabbing, in order for anything to actually get ''done'' they employ a council of personal servants actually ''called'' Mouths to attend to the day-to-day business and assign tasks to lower-ranking members to perform. As part of your advancement through the House, you have to first become a Mouth yourself to the House's most progressive Lord (his current one wants to retire) and then finally gain one yourself when ''you'' become one of those mage-lords. Interestingly enough, once you have a Mouth of your own, you can actually send ''him'' on quests for a couple of artifacts he think would be useful.
* ''VideoGame/TheFourthAgeTotalWar'' is notable for using the TropeNamer himself to play with this trope. Namely, He/It survived the fall of his master and Mordor and fled into the shadows, only to assume the mantle of Dark Lord and BigBad [[spoiler: and the name of Herumor for himself. He's spent the last several years orchestrating]] the enemy attacks from without and corruption from within the Reunited Kingdom of Gondor and Rohan that have brought it low and seriously weakened it. It gets to the point that the part of the realm secedes as the "Kingdom of Adunabar" in Ithilien and Mordor. [[spoiler: Unfortunately, this kingdom and its' leader are in the thrall of Herumor and thus its' King is the MouthOfSauron to the former trope namer.]] However, since Adunabar can choose its' own destiny, this trope might wind up [[NiceJobFixingItVillain backfiring on the Shadow.]]
* ''TheWorldEndsWithYou'' has the Reaper games led by the Game Master who enacts the will and design of The Composer. While the Composer's influence is felt every step of the way, the players never actually see or hear him directly.
** On top of which, the Composer has The Conductor, who is effectively his number-two and decides who will be the Game Master in the next week, acting as The Composer's "mouth" more directly.
* Monokuma of the ''Franchise/{{Danganronpa}}'' franchise, a series of bear-shaped robots whose job it is to speak [[VisualNovel/{{Danganronpa}} to the]] [[VisualNovel/SuperDanganronpa2 students]] for the mastermind.
* There's no one else better in ''VideoGame/{{Earthbound}}'' to be the herald for the all-powerful but mindless [[EldritchAbomination Giygas]] than Ness's obnoxious neighbor Porky.

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* Thomas Macabee, the Necron Pariah in ''VideoGame/DawnOfWar'': ''Dark Crusade''. Sort of. His master isn't this great unseen evil, in fact it's the Necron Lord of Kronus, your main HeroUnit Metatron also shows up in the campaign. It's just that [[TheVoiceless regular Necrons can't speak]], so the Pariah speaks in ''Franchise/ShinMegamiTensei'' series, holding his stead.
* ''Franchise/TheElderScrolls'' series has the Listener of the [[MurderInc Dark Brotherhood]], whose job is to receive contracts through [[EldritchAbomination The Night Mother]] and relays them through the Black Hand. Without a Listener, they can't receive any contracts the normal way, which forces them to rely on word-of-mouth to hear if anyone has performed the Black Sacrament (the ritual prayer for an assassination heard by the Night Mother and spoken to the Listener).
** VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIIIMorrowind has this as part of the [[EvilSorcerer Great House Telvanni]] questline. Since the mage-lords who rule the house are too busy with their various magical experimentation and backstabbing, in order for anything to
usual role. YHVH does actually get ''done'' they employ a council speak for himself in some of personal servants actually ''called'' Mouths to attend to the day-to-day business earlier games, but starting with ''[[VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiIIINocturne Nocturne]]'' YHVH stopped taking direct action in the games' plots and assign tasks to lower-ranking members to perform. As part of your advancement now speaks exclusively through the House, you have to first become a Mouth yourself to the House's most progressive Lord (his current one wants to retire) and then finally gain one yourself when ''you'' become Metatron or one of those mage-lords. Interestingly enough, once you have a Mouth of your own, you can actually send ''him'' on quests for a couple of artifacts he think would be useful.
* ''VideoGame/TheFourthAgeTotalWar'' is notable for using
his avatars.
** Beelzebub also serves Lucifer in this capacity as well, though
the TropeNamer big man himself to play with this trope. Namely, He/It survived the fall of his master and Mordor and fled into the shadows, only to assume the mantle of Dark Lord and BigBad [[spoiler: and the name of Herumor for himself. He's spent the last several years orchestrating]] the enemy attacks from without and corruption from within the Reunited Kingdom of Gondor and Rohan that have brought it low and seriously weakened it. It gets to the point that the part of the realm secedes as the "Kingdom of Adunabar" in Ithilien and Mordor. [[spoiler: Unfortunately, this kingdom and its' leader are in the thrall of Herumor and thus its' King is the MouthOfSauron to the former trope namer.]] However, since Adunabar can choose its' own destiny, this trope might wind up [[NiceJobFixingItVillain backfiring on the Shadow.]]
* ''TheWorldEndsWithYou'' has the Reaper games led by the Game Master who enacts the will and design of The Composer. While the Composer's influence is felt every step of the way, the players never actually see or hear him directly.
** On top of which, the Composer has The Conductor, who is effectively his number-two and decides who will be the Game Master in the next week, acting as The Composer's "mouth" more directly.
* Monokuma of the ''Franchise/{{Danganronpa}}'' franchise, a series of bear-shaped robots whose job it is to speak [[VisualNovel/{{Danganronpa}} to the]] [[VisualNovel/SuperDanganronpa2 students]] for the mastermind.
* There's no one else better in ''VideoGame/{{Earthbound}}'' to be the herald for the all-powerful but mindless [[EldritchAbomination Giygas]] than Ness's obnoxious neighbor Porky.
quite active.



* In ''VideoGame/{{Evolve}}'', Kala is an unwilling example. Due to the monster HNA [[HalfHumanHybrid overwhelming her own genetic code]], if she experiences enough trauma the monster hivemind will [[DemonicPossession overwhelm her]] and make her its mouthpiece. Suffice to say, the hivemind for a legion of perfect predators doesn't have the nicest things to say.



* Kel'thuzad for the Lich King in ''VideoGame/WarcraftIII''. The dreadlords would like you to believe that they do the same job, but really they work for the Burning Legion and are there to ''control'' the Lich King, rather than serve him.
* ''VideoGame/TheWorldEndsWithYou'' has the Reaper games led by the Game Master who enacts the will and design of The Composer. While the Composer's influence is felt every step of the way, the players never actually see or hear him directly.
** On top of which, the Composer has The Conductor, who is effectively his number-two and decides who will be the Game Master in the next week, acting as The Composer's "mouth" more directly.
* ''VideoGame/XCOM2'' has the Speaker, who appears on the [[VichyEarth ADVENT Administration]]'s broadcasts on behalf of the "Elders." He looks to be an improved version of the [[HughMann Thin Men]] who appeared in the [[VideoGame/XCOMEnemyUnknown previous game]], and the only signs of his inhuman nature are the patches of scales around his collar and wrists, and the fact that he never removes his SinisterShades.



* Played with in ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'''s "The Crystal Empire" two-parter: King Sombra, a PresentAbsence-type villain like the original Sauron, obviously lacks the screentime to explain himself properly, and since he has no {{Mooks}} -- only [[spoiler:BlackMagic {{Booby Trap}}s]] -- all of the information about who he is and what he's capable of come from Celestia and Luna -- who fought him together 1,000 years ago -- and his SlaveRace the Crystal Ponies.



* Played with in ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'''s "The Crystal Empire" two-parter: King Sombra, a PresentAbsence-type villain like the original Sauron, obviously lacks the screentime to explain himself properly, and since he has no {{Mooks}} -- only [[spoiler:BlackMagic {{Booby Trap}}s]] -- all of the information about who he is and what he's capable of come from Celestia and Luna -- who fought him together 1,000 years ago -- and his SlaveRace the Crystal Ponies.
12th Apr '17 11:40:44 PM JackG
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* ''Series/PersonOfInterest'': One of the rare non-villainous versions with the [[BenevolentAI Machine]] and its "analogue interface", the MachineWorship}}ping Root. Normally Root just relays orders, but when things get serious, she can repeat what the Machine is telling her word for word as a mouthpiece. When it's EvilCounterpart [[TheComputerIsYourFriend Samaritan]] appears on the scene, it chooses a child genius hacker called [[MeaningfulName Gabriel]] to communicate in a similar manner, whereupon the trope is played straight.

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* ''Series/PersonOfInterest'': One of the rare non-villainous versions with the [[BenevolentAI Machine]] and its "analogue interface", the MachineWorship}}ping {{Machine Worship}}ping Root. Normally Root just relays orders, but when things get serious, she can repeat what the Machine is telling her word for word as a mouthpiece. When it's EvilCounterpart [[TheComputerIsYourFriend Samaritan]] appears on the scene, it chooses a child genius hacker called [[MeaningfulName Gabriel]] to communicate in a similar manner, whereupon the trope is played straight.
12th Apr '17 11:39:46 PM JackG
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* ''Series/PersonOfInterest'': One of the rare non-villainous version with the Machine and its "analogue interface," [[spoiler:Root]]. Normally, [[spoiler:Root]] just relays orders, but when things get serious, she can repeat what the Machine is telling her word for word as a mouthpiece.

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* ''Series/PersonOfInterest'': One of the rare non-villainous version versions with the Machine [[BenevolentAI Machine]] and its "analogue interface," [[spoiler:Root]]. Normally, [[spoiler:Root]] interface", the MachineWorship}}ping Root. Normally Root just relays orders, but when things get serious, she can repeat what the Machine is telling her word for word as a mouthpiece.mouthpiece. When it's EvilCounterpart [[TheComputerIsYourFriend Samaritan]] appears on the scene, it chooses a child genius hacker called [[MeaningfulName Gabriel]] to communicate in a similar manner, whereupon the trope is played straight.
3rd Apr '17 6:56:51 PM TheWanderer
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* Mr. Morden in ''Series/BabylonFive'' is the human mouthpiece of [[OmniscientCouncilOfVagueness The Shadows]]. Sheridan tosses him into a holding cell and offers to torture him until he talks, but Delenn points out the Shadows will just kill Morden and replace him with another cretin.

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* ''Series/BabylonFive:''
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Mr. Morden in ''Series/BabylonFive'' is the human mouthpiece of [[OmniscientCouncilOfVagueness The Shadows]]. Sheridan tosses him into a holding cell and offers to torture him until he talks, but Delenn points out the Shadows will just kill Morden and replace him with another cretin.mouthpiece.
** Later, Sheridan meets another such mouthpiece who does a similar job but has a higher rank with the hierarchy the Shadows have set up.
31st Mar '17 4:27:25 AM Doug86
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* A DeletedScene from ''BatmanVSupermanDawnOfJustice'' reveals that [[spoiler: General Steppenwolf has been communicating with ComicBook/LexLuthor, presumably on behalf of ComicBook/{{Darkseid}}, whose coming Lex proclaims.]]

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* A DeletedScene from ''BatmanVSupermanDawnOfJustice'' ''Film/BatmanVSupermanDawnOfJustice'' reveals that [[spoiler: General Steppenwolf has been communicating with ComicBook/LexLuthor, presumably on behalf of ComicBook/{{Darkseid}}, whose coming Lex proclaims.]]
2nd Mar '17 6:31:18 PM SamuraiMarmoset
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** VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIIIMorrowind has this as part of the [[EvilSorcerer Great House Telvanni]] questline. Since the mage-lords who rule the house are too busy with their various magical experimentation and backstabbing, in order for anything to actually get ''done'' they employ a council of personal servants actually ''called'' Mouths to attend to the day-to-day business and assign tasks to lower-ranking members to perform. As part of your advancement through the House, you have to first become a Mouth yourself to the House's most progressive Lord (his current one wants to retire) and then finally gain one yourself when ''you'' become one of those mage-lords. Interestingly enough, once you have a Mouth of your own, you can actually send ''him'' on quests for a couple of artifacts he think would be useful.
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* In ''Videogame/{{Tyranny}}'', the protagonist is a Fatebinder, an agent of [[TheDragon Tunon the Adjudicator]] whose role is to serve as a representative of [[EvilOverlord Kyros]] and to sort out problems on the Court's behalf.
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** In ''StarWarsLegacy'', Darth Wyyrlok (I, II and III), whenever Darth Krayt went into stasis, served as "Voice" of the [[EvilOverlord Dark Lord of the Sith]].

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** In ''StarWarsLegacy'', ''ComicBook/{{Legacy}}'', Darth Wyyrlok (I, II and III), whenever Darth Krayt went into stasis, served as "Voice" of the [[EvilOverlord Dark Lord of the Sith]].
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* ''Film/TheLordOfTheRings'' gives the trope namer, and image atop this page: the Mouth of [[BigBad Sauron]].
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