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21st Sep '17 10:05:48 AM ScottMarshall
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[[folder: Professional Wrestling]]
* This is a manager's primary role if the wrestler himself isn't a very good wordsmith. A prominent example is Wrestling/PaulHeyman for Wrestling/BrockLesnar.


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[[folder: Professional Wrestling]]
* This is a manager's primary role if the wrestler himself isn't a very good wordsmith. A prominent example is Wrestling/PaulHeyman for Wrestling/BrockLesnar.
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21st Sep '17 10:05:18 AM ScottMarshall
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* In ''Podcast/TheAdventureZoneBalance'', whenever Merle calls a Parley with [[EldritchAbomination the Hunger]], the Hunger's representative is a well-dressed human man named John.
20th Sep '17 8:39:14 AM BeerBaron
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* ''Franchise/TheElderScrolls'' series has the Listener of the [[MurderInc Dark Brotherhood]], whose job is to receive contracts through [[EldritchAbomination The Night Mother]] and relays them through the Black Hand. Without a Listener, they can't receive any contracts the normal way, which forces them to rely on word-of-mouth to hear if anyone has performed the Black Sacrament (the ritual prayer for an assassination heard by the Night Mother and spoken to the Listener).
** VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIIIMorrowind has this as part of the [[EvilSorcerer Great House Telvanni]] questline. Since the mage-lords who rule the house are too busy with their various magical experimentation and backstabbing, in order for anything to actually get ''done'' they employ a council of personal servants actually ''called'' Mouths to attend to the day-to-day business and assign tasks to lower-ranking members to perform. As part of your advancement through the House, you have to first become a Mouth yourself to the House's most progressive Lord (his current one wants to retire) and then finally gain one yourself when ''you'' become one of those mage-lords. Interestingly enough, once you have a Mouth of your own, you can actually send ''him'' on quests for a couple of artifacts he think would be useful.

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* ''Franchise/TheElderScrolls'' series ''Franchise/TheElderScrolls''
** The Dark Brotherhood, an illegal [[MurderInc organization of assassins]] whose membership mostly takes a [[PsychoForHire sadistic glee]] in killing and who practice a ReligionOfEvil,
has the Listener of as the [[MurderInc Dark Brotherhood]], whose job [[DragonInChief de-facto leader]]. The Listener is the only person who can speak to receive the [[OneBadMother Night Mother]], the unholy matron who chooses which contracts through [[EldritchAbomination The Night Mother]] and relays them through the Black Hand.Brotherhood will accept. Without a Listener, they can't receive any contracts the normal way, which forces them to rely on word-of-mouth to hear if anyone has performed the Black Sacrament (the ritual prayer for an assassination heard by the Night Mother and spoken to the Listener).
** VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIIIMorrowind ''[[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIIIMorrowind Morrowind]]'' has this as part of the [[EvilSorcerer [[TheClan Great House House]] [[TheMagocracy Telvanni]] questline. Since the mage-lords who rule the house House are too busy with their various magical experimentation and backstabbing, in order for anything to actually get ''done'' ''done'', they employ a council of personal servants actually ''called'' Mouths to attend to the day-to-day business and assign tasks to lower-ranking members to perform. As part of your advancement through the House, you have to first become a Mouth yourself to the House's most progressive Lord (his current one wants to retire) and then finally gain one yourself when ''you'' become one of those mage-lords. Interestingly enough, once you have a Mouth of your own, you can actually send ''him'' on quests for a couple of artifacts he think would be useful.
4th Sep '17 10:08:11 PM zealots
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** During the 90s [[Characters/XMenAcolytes Exodus]] served this role to ComicBook/{{Magneto}}, even calling outright called himself the "Voice of Magneto".
** Also introduced in the 90s was Ozymandias, a character created to serve this role for ComicBook/{{Apocalypse}}. As is typical for servants of Apocalypse, he eventually ended up betraying his master (which makes more sense when one remembers he was originally an official in AncientEgypt who was "[[WhoWantsToLiveForever blessed]]" with immortality by Apocalypse so that he could be Big Blue's slave forever.

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** During the 90s [[Characters/XMenAcolytes Exodus]] served this role to ComicBook/{{Magneto}}, even calling outright called calling himself the "Voice of Magneto".
** Also introduced in the 90s was Ozymandias, a character created to serve this role for ComicBook/{{Apocalypse}}. As is typical for servants of Apocalypse, he eventually ended up betraying his master (which makes more sense when one remembers he was originally an official in AncientEgypt who was "[[WhoWantsToLiveForever blessed]]" with immortality by Apocalypse so that he could be Big Blue's slave forever.forever).
31st Aug '17 6:33:05 PM zealots
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* In the ''Franchise/XMen'' comics during the 90s, Exodus outright called himself the "Voice of ComicBook/{{Magneto}}," while Ozymandias served this role for ComicBook/{{Apocalypse}}.

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* In the ''Franchise/XMen'' comics during gives us a few examples:
** During
the 90s, Exodus 90s [[Characters/XMenAcolytes Exodus]] served this role to ComicBook/{{Magneto}}, even calling outright called himself the "Voice of ComicBook/{{Magneto}}," while Ozymandias Magneto".
** Also introduced in the 90s was Ozymandias, a character created to serve this role for ComicBook/{{Apocalypse}}. As is typical for servants of Apocalypse, he eventually ended up betraying his master (which makes more sense when one remembers he was originally an official in AncientEgypt who was "[[WhoWantsToLiveForever blessed]]" with immortality by Apocalypse so that he could be Big Blue's slave forever.
** In the ''ComicBook/AgeOfApocalypse'' the External Candra
served this role to Apocalypse. This being the [[CrapsackWorld Age of Apocalypse]], it didn't take long for ComicBook/{{Apocalypse}}.someone to kill her off in pursuit of the ever-coveted KlingonPromotion.
1st Aug '17 3:29:02 PM Grudgeal
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-->'''The Fatebinder:''' Did you know that, legally speaking, my word is the same as Tunon's word unless the Archon contradicts my word as Fatebinder? Rhogalus says the legal term for that is [[AltumVideur Proxy Decisis]]. Calio says the legal term is [[SophisticatedAsHell "fuck you, I'm the law"]].

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-->'''The Fatebinder:''' Did you know that, legally speaking, my word is the same as Tunon's word unless the Archon contradicts my word as Fatebinder? Rhogalus says the legal term for that is [[AltumVideur ''[[AltumVidetur Proxy Decisis]].Decisis]]''. Calio says the legal term is [[SophisticatedAsHell "fuck you, I'm the law"]].
1st Aug '17 3:28:19 PM Grudgeal
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-->'''The Fatebinder:''' Did you know that, legally speaking, my word is the same as Tunon's word unless the Archon contradicts my word as Fatebinder? Rhogalus says the legal term for that is [[AltumVideur Proxy Decisis]]. Calio says the legal term is [[SophisticatedAsHell "fuck you, I'm the law"]].
5th Jul '17 5:30:38 AM crashkey
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* In most versions of Gnosticism, the highest God (or ''Monad'') is just too pure to have anything at all to do with the physical universe; there are several layers of "emanations" below the Monad before reaching the Demiurge, who actually created the universe and serves as the interface between it and the spiritual levels above.

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* In most versions of Gnosticism, the highest God (or ''Monad'') is just too pure to have anything at all to do with the physical universe; there are several layers of "emanations" below the Monad before reaching the Demiurge, who actually created rules the physical universe and serves as the interface between it and the spiritual levels above.above. (In a subversion, though, the Demiurge is also frequently too ''ignorant'' about what he really is and ''thinks'' he's the actual God.)
29th Jun '17 2:46:08 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* In ''Film/{{Equilibrium}}'', Libria dictator "Father" is all over the television, but almost no one meets him personally. Vice-Council Dumont is explicitly described as "Father's Voice." Turns out [[spoiler:to be a subversion: the real Father died years before, and Dumont is actually running things while ''pretending'' to be the MouthOfSauron]].

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* In ''Film/{{Equilibrium}}'', Libria dictator "Father" is all over the television, but almost no one meets him personally. Vice-Council Dumont is explicitly described as "Father's Voice." Turns out [[spoiler:to be a subversion: the real Father died years before, and Dumont is actually running things while ''pretending'' to be the MouthOfSauron]].Mouth of Sauron]].



** Also, dragons in the setting commonly had interpreters (when the dragons first awakened, they could only communicate telepathically and didn't speak English) who often made public appearances on their patron's behalf. Since dragons can [[VoluntaryShapeShifting shape-shift]], some of them even exploit this by appearing as their own MouthOfSauron (though given they're easier to kill in metahuman form, most don't).

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** Also, dragons in the setting commonly had interpreters (when the dragons first awakened, they could only communicate telepathically and didn't speak English) who often made public appearances on their patron's behalf. Since dragons can [[VoluntaryShapeShifting shape-shift]], some of them even exploit this by appearing as their own MouthOfSauron Mouth of Sauron (though given they're easier to kill in metahuman form, most don't).



* ''VideoGame/TheFourthAgeTotalWar'' is notable for using the TropeNamer himself to play with this trope. Namely, He/It survived the fall of his master and Mordor and fled into the shadows, only to assume the mantle of Dark Lord and BigBad [[spoiler: and the name of Herumor for himself. He's spent the last several years orchestrating]] the enemy attacks from without and corruption from within the Reunited Kingdom of Gondor and Rohan that have brought it low and seriously weakened it. It gets to the point that the part of the realm secedes as the "Kingdom of Adunabar" in Ithilien and Mordor. [[spoiler: Unfortunately, this kingdom and its' leader are in the thrall of Herumor and thus its' King is the MouthOfSauron to the former trope namer.]] However, since Adunabar can choose its own destiny, this trope might wind up [[NiceJobFixingItVillain backfiring on the Shadow.]]

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* ''VideoGame/TheFourthAgeTotalWar'' is notable for using the TropeNamer himself to play with this trope. Namely, He/It survived the fall of his master and Mordor and fled into the shadows, only to assume the mantle of Dark Lord and BigBad [[spoiler: and the name of Herumor for himself. He's spent the last several years orchestrating]] the enemy attacks from without and corruption from within the Reunited Kingdom of Gondor and Rohan that have brought it low and seriously weakened it. It gets to the point that the part of the realm secedes as the "Kingdom of Adunabar" in Ithilien and Mordor. [[spoiler: Unfortunately, this kingdom and its' leader are in the thrall of Herumor and thus its' King is the MouthOfSauron Mouth of Sauron to the former trope namer.]] However, since Adunabar can choose its own destiny, this trope might wind up [[NiceJobFixingItVillain backfiring on the Shadow.]]
29th Jun '17 2:45:02 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* ''Series/{{Revenge}}'': The BiggerBad [[NebulousEvilOrganization Americon Initiative]] communicates with the Graysons through their assassin the White Haired Man. After [[spoiler:he is framed and killed]] in early season 2, a woman from the Initiative starts speaking to Conrad directly.

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* ''Series/{{Revenge}}'': The BiggerBad [[NebulousEvilOrganization Americon Initiative]] communicates with the Graysons through their assassin the White Haired Man. After [[spoiler:he is framed and killed]] in early season 2, a woman from the Initiative starts speaking to Conrad directly.



** [[UpToEleven Particularly disturbing example]] is the Abyssal known as Weeping Raiton Cast Aside (or just 'Raiton'), who claims to serve the [[BiggerBad Neverborn]] directly, making her the Mouth in respect to the Deathlords.

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** [[UpToEleven Particularly disturbing example]] is the Abyssal known as Weeping Raiton Cast Aside (or just 'Raiton'), who claims to serve the [[BiggerBad Neverborn]] Neverborn directly, making her the Mouth in respect to the Deathlords.
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