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6th Mar '17 11:08:52 AM DaibhidC
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* Parodied to hell and back in a scene in ''Literature/MostlyHarmless'' where Arthur is looking for a planet of humanoids and must seek advice from a '''very''' [[StarfishAliens alien Alien]].

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* Parodied to hell and back in a scene in ''Literature/MostlyHarmless'' where Arthur is looking for a planet of humanoids and must seek advice from a '''very''' [[StarfishAliens alien Alien]]. And then further, when the planet it recommends has a population that might [[HumanAliens look human]], but are psychologically less human than any alien he's met thus far.
13th Feb '17 11:12:19 AM TheKaizerreich
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* In a case of All Animals Are Humans, consider how many pet food companies boast of how their dog or cat foods contain only "real meat, not animal byproducts". "Animal byproducts" is a less squicky way of saying "ground bone meal, internal organs, and heads". Guess what parts of a kill predators in the wild tend to chow down on first? But no, our pets are just little furry humans, and ''have'' to share our dietary preferences. We certainly wouldn't want to give our dogs something made from bones, now would we? Oh, wait... Also, people in many cultures have no problem eating internal organs and heads (see ForeignQueasine), so it's not just human dietary preferences that our furry friends must share, but the preferences of a particular subset of humans (wealthy Westerners). Bone meal, on the other hand...

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* In a case of All Animals Are Humans, consider how many pet food companies boast of how their dog or cat foods contain only "real meat, not animal byproducts". "Animal byproducts" is a less squicky way of saying "ground bone meal, internal organs, and heads". Guess what parts of a kill predators in the wild tend to chow down on first? But no, our pets are just little furry humans, and ''have'' to share our dietary preferences. We certainly wouldn't want to give our dogs something made from bones, now would we? Oh, wait... Also, people in many cultures have no problem eating internal organs and heads (see ForeignQueasine), so it's not just human dietary preferences that our furry friends must share, but the preferences of a particular subset of humans (wealthy Westerners).(Western civilisation). Bone meal, on the other hand...
2nd Feb '17 5:24:48 PM Everdream
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* In one of the first few episodes of the ''Anime/{{Pokemon}} Sun and Moon anime,'' Meowth has a near-death experience in which he is lured by three Pokemon he immediately becomes infatuated with. Instead of using cat Pokemon you would reasonably expect a fellow cat Pokemon to be attracted to, the writers clearly chose Pokemon based on whether the human fandom finds them attractive. This is odd, as when Meowth is required to show interest in another Pokemon, they usually do choose another feline Pokemon.

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* In one of the first few episodes of the ''Anime/{{Pokemon}} Sun and Moon anime,'' Meowth has a near-death experience in which he is lured by three Pokemon he immediately becomes infatuated with. Instead of using cat Pokemon you would reasonably expect a fellow cat Pokemon to be attracted to, the writers clearly chose the Pokemon based on whether the human fandom finds them attractive. This is odd, as when Meowth is required to show interest in another Pokemon, they usually do choose another feline Pokemon.
2nd Feb '17 5:15:43 PM Everdream
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* In one of the first few episodes of the ''Anime/{{Pokemon}} Sun and Moon anime,'' Meowth has a near-death experience in which he is lured by three Pokemon he immediately becomes infatuated with. Instead of using cat Pokemon you would reasonably expect a fellow cat Pokemon to be attracted to, the writers clearly chose Pokemon based on whether the human fandom finds them attractive. This is odd, as when Meowth is required to show interest in another Pokemon, they usually do choose another feline Pokemon.
22nd Dec '16 12:48:17 AM Spindriver
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* Parodied to hell and back in that scene in ''Literature/MostlyHarmless'' where Arthur is looking for a planet of humanoids and must seek advice from a '''very''' [[StarfishAliens alien Alien]].

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* Parodied to hell and back in that a scene in ''Literature/MostlyHarmless'' where Arthur is looking for a planet of humanoids and must seek advice from a '''very''' [[StarfishAliens alien Alien]].



* TabletopGame/{{GURPS}} invokes this trope and all but refer to it by name. All customization is done by adding or subtracting features from a human template. ''TabletopGame/GURPSDiscworld'' briefly invokes HumansAreSpecial to explain why humanity dominates the Disc instead of trolls, dwarfs or banshees, before acknowledging that the ''real'' reason is that the setting was created by humans, for humans.

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* TabletopGame/{{GURPS}} invokes this trope and all but refer refers to it by name. All customization is done by adding or subtracting features from a human template. ''TabletopGame/GURPSDiscworld'' The GURPS-based ''TabletopGame/DiscworldRoleplayingGame'' briefly invokes HumansAreSpecial to explain why humanity dominates the Disc instead of trolls, dwarfs or banshees, before acknowledging that the ''real'' reason reason...
-->''At this point, it's traditional to explain at length how, despite the fact that humans are smaller, squidgier, less magical, or poorer at mining than other races, we have some kind of crucial edge perhaps a willingness to kill, or willpower, or the ability to cooperate, or the favour of the gods, or just the capacity to out-breed everyone else. But the important point
is that the setting was these stories and games are created by humans, and for humans.human beings.''
3rd Oct '16 11:27:13 AM N1KF
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... [[PlausibleDeniability at least for those we can prove.]] There are non-human writers, by the way. These include a few computers, and most likely a few non-human primates (writing very simple works, granted, and probably dictating).

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... [[PlausibleDeniability at least for those we can prove.]] There are non-human writers, writers we know of, by the way. These include a few computers, and most likely a few non-human primates (writing very simple works, granted, and probably dictating).



* For one species that evolved on one planet, humanity sure gets around in the fictional multi-[[TheVerse verse]]. Countless SpeculativeFiction settings without Earth include humans, usually [[LikeRealityUnlessNoted just like the ones we're used to]].

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* For one species that evolved on one planet, humanity sure gets around in the fictional multi-[[TheVerse verse]]. Countless SpeculativeFiction settings without Earth include humans, usually [[LikeRealityUnlessNoted just like the ones we're used to]].
25th Aug '16 11:39:53 AM merotoker
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* For one species that evolved on one planet, humanity sure gets around in the fictional multi-{{verse}}. Countless SpeculativeFiction settings without Earth include humans, usually [[LikeRealityUnlessNoted just like the ones we're used to]].

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* For one species that evolved on one planet, humanity sure gets around in the fictional multi-{{verse}}.multi-[[TheVerse verse]]. Countless SpeculativeFiction settings without Earth include humans, usually [[LikeRealityUnlessNoted just like the ones we're used to]].



* Where the story falls along the SlidingScaleOfIdealismVsCynicism depends on how good, valuable, or justified the human condition is evaluated to be. In idealistic stories, a {{Transhuman}}, {{Cyborg}}, DeityOfHumanOrigin, GodInHumanForm, {{Human Alien|s}} or {{Ridiculously Human Robot|s}} will invariably PickYourHumanHalf. They will find that having human emotions is good and human systems of morality work equally well or better than their own. Some of them may even yield to basic human drives/instincts, such as [[BoldlyComing sexual]] [[RoboSexual relations]] [[DivineDate with]] [[DidYouJustRomanceCthulhu humans]].

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* Where the story falls along the SlidingScaleOfIdealismVsCynicism SlidingScaleOfIdealismVersusCynicism depends on how good, valuable, or justified the human condition is evaluated to be. In idealistic stories, a {{Transhuman}}, {{Cyborg}}, DeityOfHumanOrigin, GodInHumanForm, {{Human Alien|s}} or {{Ridiculously Human Robot|s}} will invariably PickYourHumanHalf. They will find that having human emotions is good and human systems of morality work equally well or better than their own. Some of them may even yield to basic human drives/instincts, such as [[BoldlyComing sexual]] [[RoboSexual relations]] [[DivineDate with]] [[DidYouJustRomanceCthulhu humans]].



* Creator/{{Pixar}} is praised for humanizing things that are not human. So far, they have only had a few movies where humans were the main characters (''WesternAnimation/TheIncredibles'', ''WesternAnimation/{{Up}}'', and ''WesternAnimation/{{Brave}}''). In the commentary for Toy Story 3, the directors noted that they deliberately averted this trope, stating that they wanted the toys to deal with "toy problems, not people problems".

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* Creator/{{Pixar}} is praised for humanizing things that are not human. So far, they have only had a few movies where humans were the main characters (''WesternAnimation/TheIncredibles'', ''WesternAnimation/{{Up}}'', and ''WesternAnimation/{{Brave}}''). In the commentary for Toy Story 3, ''WesternAnimation/ToyStory3'', the directors noted that they deliberately averted this trope, stating that they wanted the toys to deal with "toy problems, not people problems".



* Probably the strangest example: Why are there [[MisplacedWildlife lemurs]] in Disney's ''Disney/{{Dinosaur}}''? Seems the writers thought us selfish primates wouldn't like the movie unless there was something cute and furry to relate to. Actually, there were lemur-like creatures living during the time of the dinosaurs, however they would have looked more like shrews or rats than what we would recognize as lemurs and evolutionary-wise were closer related to modern marsupials and monotremes.

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* Probably the strangest example: Why are there [[MisplacedWildlife lemurs]] in Disney's ''Disney/{{Dinosaur}}''? Seems the writers thought us selfish primates wouldn't like the movie unless there was something cute and furry to relate to. Actually, there were lemur-like creatures living during the time of the dinosaurs, however they would have looked more like shrews or rats than what we would recognize as lemurs and evolutionary-wise were closer more closely related to modern marsupials and monotremes.



* This trope was actually a fairly major factor in the writing of ''Film/{{Transformers}}'', with the human characters taking a somewhat larger role than is traditional for the franchise. (This was also for [[PragmaticAdaptation pragmatic]] reasons; ''every single frame'' of one Transformer or more that appears on screen took ''twenty-four hours'' to render.) According to the PowersThatBe, the main reason was [[CoconutSuperpowers the expense of the detailed robots]]. In [[Film/TransformersRevengeOfTheFallen the second film]], however, there are many more non-humanoid Transformers, of all shapes and sizes, from insects to tiny spheres that roll through small spaces and assemble into one robot when it's gotten where it's going. One character is even [[spoiler:a trio of motorcycles, whose robot forms are all oddly-shaped beings who have one wheel instead of legs. These three bikes together make the new Arcee. They can combine into one in the comics, but they don't in the movie proper.]] There's also more robot screentime than in the previous film. The entire Franchise/{{Transformers}} franchise is prone to this trope. For a race of inorganic mechanical lifeforms with lifespans hundreds if not thousands of years old, more often than not they'll behave no differently than humans do.

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* This trope was actually a fairly major factor in the writing of ''Film/{{Transformers}}'', with the human characters taking a somewhat larger role than is traditional for the franchise. (This was also for [[PragmaticAdaptation pragmatic]] reasons; ''every single frame'' of one Transformer or more that appears on screen took ''twenty-four hours'' to render.) According to the PowersThatBe, the main reason was [[CoconutSuperpowers the expense of the detailed robots]]. In [[Film/TransformersRevengeOfTheFallen the second film]], however, there are many more non-humanoid Transformers, of all shapes and sizes, from insects to tiny spheres that roll through small spaces and assemble into one robot when it's gotten where it's going. One character is even [[spoiler:a trio of motorcycles, whose robot forms are all oddly-shaped beings who have one wheel instead of legs. These three bikes together make the new Arcee. They can combine into one in the comics, but they don't in the movie proper.]] proper]]. There's also more robot screentime than in the previous film. The entire Franchise/{{Transformers}} franchise is prone to this trope. For a race of inorganic mechanical lifeforms with lifespans hundreds if not thousands of years old, more often than not they'll behave no differently than humans do.



* From the title of ''Literature/TheHorseAndHisBoy,'' you might expect that Bree, the TalkingAnimal, was the protagonist. Nope--it's the boy, Shasta, and arguably the deuteragonist is Aravis, a human girl.
** Arguably, all the ''Literature/TheChroniclesOfNarnia'' are examples of this trope, as Narnia can only have a human as a King, and the humans always show up to save the day.

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* From the title of ''Literature/TheHorseAndHisBoy,'' you might expect that Bree, the TalkingAnimal, was the protagonist. Nope--it's the boy, Shasta, and arguably the deuteragonist is Aravis, a human girl. \n** Arguably, all the ''Literature/TheChroniclesOfNarnia'' are examples of this trope, as Narnia can only have a human as a King, and the humans always show up to save the day.



** Unintentional lampshading in ThePilot of ''Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration'', when Deanna explains "I'm only [[HalfHumanHybrid half-Betazoid]], my father was a Starfleet officer." Yep, "Starfleet officer" = "human" according to ''a half-Betazoid Starfleet officer''.

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** Unintentional lampshading in ThePilot the {{Pilot}} of ''Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration'', when Deanna explains "I'm only [[HalfHumanHybrid half-Betazoid]], my father was a Starfleet officer." Yep, "Starfleet officer" = "human" according to ''a half-Betazoid Starfleet officer''.



* Despite Muppets being the stars of the show, ''Series/SesameStreet'' commonly leaves it up to the humans to give advice and guidance to Big Bird or Elmo. Probably justified, as a child audience is more likely to recognize that adult humans are ''adults'', and therefore authority figures, than puppets.

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* Despite Muppets {{Muppet}}s being the stars of the show, ''Series/SesameStreet'' commonly leaves it up to the humans to give advice and guidance to Big Bird or Elmo. Probably justified, as a child audience is more likely to recognize that adult humans are ''adults'', and therefore authority figures, than puppets.



*** Ernie and Bert are clearly intended to be preteen boys. They're frequently shown playing with child-appropriate toys. One recent episode even focuses on Bert's attempt to learn to ride his bike without training wheels. The fact that they don't live with adults doesn't disprove this position. Neither does Big Bird, who is perpetually six years old.

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*** Ernie and Bert are clearly intended to be preteen boys. They're frequently shown playing with child-appropriate toys. One recent episode even focuses on Bert's attempt to learn to ride his bike without training wheels. The fact that they don't live with adults doesn't disprove this position. Neither does Big Bird, who is perpetually six years old.



* ''Series/{{Farscape}}'' somewhat averts this and somewhat doesn't--technically there is only one human character in the entire show (if you exclude Jack, who is usually either a memory of John's or an insectoid StarfishAlien in AFormYouAreComfortableWith), many of the aliens who are encountered are HumanAliens (especially Sebaceans, who basically ARE humans), and most other aliens are HumanoidAliens who behave like humans for instance Delvians(despite being PlantAliens), and Luxans. There are a few aliens who either look (Hynerians, Pilots, Scarrans) and/or behave (Leviathans, Ancients, Drak) quite different from humans, however.

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* ''Series/{{Farscape}}'' somewhat averts this and somewhat doesn't--technically there is only one human character in the entire show (if you exclude Jack, who is usually either a memory of John's or an insectoid StarfishAlien {{Starfish Alien|s}} in AFormYouAreComfortableWith), many of the aliens who are encountered are HumanAliens (especially Sebaceans, who basically ARE humans), and most other aliens are HumanoidAliens who behave like humans for instance Delvians(despite being PlantAliens), and Luxans. There are a few aliens who either look (Hynerians, Pilots, Scarrans) and/or behave (Leviathans, Ancients, Drak) quite different from humans, however.



* While the main characters of ''Franchise/SuperMarioBros'' are human (or [[AmbiguouslyHuman at least very human-like]]), they're often greatly outnumbered by the number of non-human characters, such as Bowser, Yoshi, Donkey Kong, various {{Mook}}s, and other characters both friendly and non-friendly, animal-like to having human-level intelligence. In spin-off titles, especially in the sports titles, greater emphasis is placed on the 7 most human-like characters (Mario, Luigi, Peach, Daisy, Wario, Waluigi and Rosalina).

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* While the main characters of ''Franchise/SuperMarioBros'' are human (or [[AmbiguouslyHuman at least very human-like]]), they're often greatly outnumbered by the number of non-human characters, such as Bowser, Yoshi, Donkey Kong, various {{Mook}}s, {{Mooks}}, and other characters both friendly and non-friendly, animal-like to having human-level intelligence. In spin-off titles, especially in the sports titles, greater emphasis is placed on the 7 most human-like characters (Mario, Luigi, Peach, Daisy, Wario, Waluigi and Rosalina).



* Wait, shows with ''E. coli'' as the main characters? There's always ''WesternAnimation/OsmosisJones'', where the cast is made up of red blood cells and fat cells and cold medicine and viruses and.... oh, no, wait, they turned all of the characters into humanoids. Of course, since the show is a FantasticVoyagePlot, the most of the characters aren't just human, they're A human. When a dog cell get into Hector's body, it has a canine form and habits. Presumably if Ozzy and Drix had visited the dog's body, it would've been set up like a gargantuan kennel.

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* Wait, shows with ''E. coli'' as the main characters? There's always ''WesternAnimation/OsmosisJones'', where the cast is made up of red blood cells and fat cells and cold medicine and viruses and.... oh, no, wait, they turned all of the characters into humanoids. Of course, since the show is a FantasticVoyagePlot, the most of the characters aren't just human, they're A human. When a dog cell get into Hector's body, it has a canine form and habits. Presumably if Ozzy and Drix had visited the dog's body, it would've been set up like a gargantuan kennel.
12th Aug '16 5:31:33 PM ElectroKraken
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1st Aug '16 4:06:06 AM Morgenthaler
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** Asimov himself was very aware he wasn't particularly good at writing aliens "thinking ''as well as'' a man, but not ''like'' a man", and as a result his ''magnum opus'' ... the ''{{Foundation}}'' series ... features a humans-only galactic empire mainly so he didn't have to have any aliens.

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** Asimov himself was very aware he wasn't particularly good at writing aliens "thinking ''as well as'' a man, but not ''like'' a man", and as a result his ''magnum opus'' ... the ''{{Foundation}}'' ''Literature/{{Foundation}}'' series ... features a humans-only galactic empire mainly so he didn't have to have any aliens.



* From the title of ''TheHorseAndHisBoy,'' you might expect that Bree, the TalkingAnimal, was the protagonist. Nope--it's the boy, Shasta, and arguably the deuteragonist is Aravis, a human girl.

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* From the title of ''TheHorseAndHisBoy,'' ''Literature/TheHorseAndHisBoy,'' you might expect that Bree, the TalkingAnimal, was the protagonist. Nope--it's the boy, Shasta, and arguably the deuteragonist is Aravis, a human girl.
22nd Jul '16 11:49:54 AM MargaretC
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***Ernie and Bert are clearly intended to be preteen boys. They're frequently shown playing with child-appropriate toys. One recent episode even focuses on Bert's attempt to learn to ride his bike without training wheels. The fact that they don't live with adults doesn't disprove this position. Neither does Big Bird, who is perpetually six years old.
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