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11th May '18 6:43:42 AM Pichu-kun
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* ''Manga/{{Naruto}}'' is a strange case because while most of the young characters in it would fit the trope, Naruto himself is as mature as a person his age would really be ([[CharacterDevelopment initially]]), making him seem immature just by virtue of being normal. May be justified in this case, seeing as how the fictional society in which they live apparently saddles young people with responsibilities up to and including conducting wars at much younger ages than we consider appropriate in ours. Some characters, like Itachi and Kakashi when they were young, and Shikamaru take this to the point of being flat out WiseBeyondTheirYears.

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''Manga/{{Naruto}}'' is a strange case because while most of the young characters in it would fit the trope, Naruto himself is as mature as a person his age would really be ([[CharacterDevelopment initially]]), making him seem immature just by virtue of being normal. May be justified in this case, seeing as how the fictional society in which they live apparently saddles young people with responsibilities up to and including conducting wars at much younger ages than we consider appropriate in ours. Some characters, like Itachi and Kakashi when they were young, and Shikamaru take this to the point of being flat out WiseBeyondTheirYears.WiseBeyondTheirYears.
** This is averted in the sequel ''Manga/{{Boruto}}''. Despite being a ChildProdigy, Boruto acts rather age appropriate. He likes hanging out with his similar friends, playing video games, and generally acts like a 10-to-12 year old. The odd part is his ''sister'' Himawari, who inverts this by [[KiddieKid acting younger than she actually is]].


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* This is par to the course in ''Literature/WarriorCats''. Apprentices and even some kits act like adults.
19th Apr '18 1:56:50 PM AdelePotter
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* ''Literature/TheTalesOfTheFrogPrincess'' this is justified, since the story is set in the high to late Middle Ages and the teenagers have already been forced to mature due to their circumstances, but Grassina finds the man that she will eventually marry (and falls in love with him, and accepts his marriage proposal) when they're ''fourteen''. Her sister is sixteen and also marries her fiancé then.

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* ''Literature/TheTalesOfTheFrogPrincess'' ''Literature/TalesOfTheFrogPrincess'' this is justified, since the story is set in the high to late Middle Ages and the teenagers have already been forced to mature due to their circumstances, but Grassina finds the man that she will eventually marry (and falls in love with him, and accepts his marriage proposal) when they're ''fourteen''. Her sister is sixteen and also marries her fiancé then.


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** Murkier in the case of Emma's daughter, also named Millie ([[DeadGuyJunior after the first one)]]. She meets her future husband when she's sixteen, but she doesn't actually marry him until two books later. The length of time isn't specified, but she could be seventeen or eighteen by then.
17th Apr '18 7:07:23 PM nombretomado
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** And then there were the jobs they were entrusted with by adults, the most {{egregious}} being the "Super Special" plots, where they would take charge of younger kids away from home, including while stranded in a snowstorm and on vacation in New York (which was a strange city to most of them!). All they had to do was offer to help and explain that they had started an after-school baby-sitting business, whereupon one of the parents they'd worked for would chime in with, "They're ''very'' responsible," and bingo, they were treated like honorary adults, no further questions asked. And since eleven was the magic gateway to the CompetenceZone, often they would be "taking care of" kids who were only a year or two younger, who might exhibit different kinds of brattiness or stubbornness but would always treat them as an authority figure to be strategically undermined instead of just saying, "Dude, ''you're my age''. Stop acting like a camp counselor. No, I don't want to see what's in your Kid Kit." Apparently you can be "handled" up through the age of ten, and after that you enter a higher plane of thinking and gain all kinds of insight into the minds of "kids."

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** And then there were the jobs they were entrusted with by adults, the most {{egregious}} JustForFun/{{egregious}} being the "Super Special" plots, where they would take charge of younger kids away from home, including while stranded in a snowstorm and on vacation in New York (which was a strange city to most of them!). All they had to do was offer to help and explain that they had started an after-school baby-sitting business, whereupon one of the parents they'd worked for would chime in with, "They're ''very'' responsible," and bingo, they were treated like honorary adults, no further questions asked. And since eleven was the magic gateway to the CompetenceZone, often they would be "taking care of" kids who were only a year or two younger, who might exhibit different kinds of brattiness or stubbornness but would always treat them as an authority figure to be strategically undermined instead of just saying, "Dude, ''you're my age''. Stop acting like a camp counselor. No, I don't want to see what's in your Kid Kit." Apparently you can be "handled" up through the age of ten, and after that you enter a higher plane of thinking and gain all kinds of insight into the minds of "kids."
26th Feb '18 10:34:08 PM Pichu-kun
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* A common complaint for ''Manga/WanderingSon'' is that all the cisgender ten to fourteen year old characters are too aware of gender issues for their age. They act more like adults in that respect, and are more mature than even the actual adults.

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* A common complaint for ''Manga/WanderingSon'' is that all the cisgender ten to fourteen ten-to-fourteen year old characters are too aware of gender issues for their age. They act more like adults in that respect, and are more mature than even the actual adults.



* Subverted in ''Manga/AzumangaDaioh'', Chiyo is 10 and a ChildProdigy who skipped a few classes due to that, but acts her age because she's smart but lacks the life experience needed. The other girls, usually around 15, also behave like teenage girls should.

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* Subverted in ''Manga/AzumangaDaioh'', ''Manga/AzumangaDaioh''. Chiyo is 10 and a ChildProdigy who skipped a few classes due to that, but acts her age because she's smart but lacks the life experience needed. The other girls, usually around 15, also behave like teenage girls should.



* ''ComicStrip/{{Peanuts}}''. These kids occasionally take on amazingly adult responsibilities, such as the time Charlie Brown checked himself into the hospital.

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* ''ComicStrip/{{Peanuts}}''. ''ComicStrip/{{Peanuts}}'': These kids occasionally take on amazingly adult responsibilities, such as the time Charlie Brown checked himself into the hospital.



* Inverted in the 2009 ''WesternAnimation/AstroBoy'' movie; most child characters look and behave much ''younger'' than their given age. (Astro/Toby is said to be thirteen and more closely resembles a nine-year-old; Cora is claimed to be seventeen but comes off as perhaps fifteen; the twins are said to be nine but seem more like six or seven-year-olds. Zane, on the other hand, is fourteen and seems accurate.) Of course, this is long-term in ''Astro Boy'' - the original was claimed to be nine and looks six.

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* Inverted in the 2009 ''WesternAnimation/AstroBoy'' movie; most child characters look and behave much ''younger'' than their given age. (Astro/Toby is said to be thirteen and more closely resembles a nine-year-old; Cora is claimed to be seventeen but comes off as perhaps fifteen; the twins are said to be nine but seem more like six or seven-year-olds. Zane, on the other hand, is fourteen and seems accurate.) Of course, this is long-term in ''Astro Boy'' ''Manga/AstroBoy'' - the original was claimed to be nine and looks six.



*** Mallory wears an "I <3 Kids" shirt at the age of eleven. If you saw that in real life, you'd assume it was a last-resort item belonging to her mother and they were behind on laundry at her house.

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*** ** Mallory wears an "I <3 Kids" shirt at the age of eleven. If you saw that in real life, you'd assume it was a last-resort item belonging to her mother and they were behind on laundry at her house.



** While the original ''Franchise/{{Degrassi}}'' shows avert this, this began appearing starting with ''Series/{{Degrassi}}''. The teens act more like college students then high schoolers.

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** While the original ''Franchise/{{Degrassi}}'' shows avert this, this began appearing starting with ''Series/{{Degrassi}}''. The teens act more like college students then than high schoolers.



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* Many ''Series/SesameStreet'' Muppets have canonical ages. For example, Zoe is five, Elmo is three, and Big Bird is six. They act like children but they don't like anything like their actual ages. Their vocabulary is more advanced, they're more mature, and they're more developmentally advanced as well. Overall, most child Muppet characters act a few older than they should.
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* The average age of the cast of ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaTheWindWaker'' is a lot lower than that of most other Zelda games. You wouldn't notice if it wasn't for them being modelled in Chibi-style. Medli is just as sage-y as every other sage in the series (while being about 10 years younger than every other sage in the series), the Koroks (who are repeatedly called "child-like") speak in a way you would expect from the royal court members of England and pre-teen Tetra... [[WiseBeyondTheirYears Let's not start about Tetra.]]

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* The average age of the cast of ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaTheWindWaker'' is a lot lower than that of most other Zelda ''Zelda'' games. You wouldn't notice if it wasn't for them being modelled in Chibi-style. Medli is just as sage-y as every other sage in the series (while being about 10 years younger than every other sage in the series), the Koroks (who are repeatedly called "child-like") speak in a way you would expect from the royal court members of England and pre-teen Tetra... [[WiseBeyondTheirYears Let's not start about Tetra.]]
17th Jan '18 2:28:47 AM BoukenDutch
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* ''WesternAnimation/PJMasks'': According to WordOfGod, the 3 heroes are ''six years old'', yet they are superhero's with their own headquarters, can pilot vehicles, and aside from the occasional time they do act childlike, are overall more mature than you'd expect children their age to be. The same also applies to their enemies, the nighttime villains, who are around the same age.
9th Jan '18 10:17:09 AM Lyner
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** This point is actually noted and dismissed as a statistical anomaly in-show: the hero finds it strange and feels a little left-behind to be the only one with no concrete future plans, but his friend just notes that somehow that one class got filled with people set to inherit who like their family business, while most of the school has normal teens with far less in terms of plans for the future.
2nd Dec '17 11:34:08 AM SeptimusHeap
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* The original ComicBook/NewMutants (oxymoron noted) of Comicbook/{{X-Men}} fame had this problem with some of the kids. Moonstar and Cannonball both acted very mature for their age, though Moonstar had a lot of youthful impetuousness and rebellion in her, picking fights for no reason (particularly against authority figures like Professor X). Karma basically acted like an adult woman (though there are reasons in-universe for this -- she had a ''very'' traumatic past in Vietnam). Magik has a similarly-horrible upbringing (except she basically was raised in Hell), and so acts in much the same way (albeit with a more sinister, trickster bent). Magma was a mature aristocrat from a Roman colony. Sunspot and Wolfsbane were the only two early kids who acted like most adults would expect kids to act -- immature, unsure, etc. Of course they used verbose language unexpected of teens, but this is Creator/ChrisClaremont we're talking about (even his ''adult'' characters were wordsmiths). At least in between adventures, they had typical teen angst about things like crushes (Sam especially crushes on Magma in the early issues), dating, parties and fashion. The series at least certainly captured the ''feel'' of being a teenager -- nearly all of the kids suffered identity crises, rankled against authority, and had to deal with crushing insecurity.

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* The original ComicBook/NewMutants (oxymoron noted) of Comicbook/{{X-Men}} Comicbook/XMen fame had this problem with some of the kids. Moonstar and Cannonball both acted very mature for their age, though Moonstar had a lot of youthful impetuousness and rebellion in her, picking fights for no reason (particularly against authority figures like Professor X). Karma basically acted like an adult woman (though there are reasons in-universe for this -- she had a ''very'' traumatic past in Vietnam). Magik has a similarly-horrible upbringing (except she basically was raised in Hell), and so acts in much the same way (albeit with a more sinister, trickster bent). Magma was a mature aristocrat from a Roman colony. Sunspot and Wolfsbane were the only two early kids who acted like most adults would expect kids to act -- immature, unsure, etc. Of course they used verbose language unexpected of teens, but this is Creator/ChrisClaremont we're talking about (even his ''adult'' characters were wordsmiths). At least in between adventures, they had typical teen angst about things like crushes (Sam especially crushes on Magma in the early issues), dating, parties and fashion. The series at least certainly captured the ''feel'' of being a teenager -- nearly all of the kids suffered identity crises, rankled against authority, and had to deal with crushing insecurity.
29th Nov '17 11:19:14 AM PDL
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* ''VideoGame/BackyardSports''.

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20th Sep '17 6:20:02 PM Pichu-kun
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* ''Manga/{{Naruto}}'' is a strange case because while most of the young characters in it would fit the trope, Naruto himself is as mature as a person his age would really be ([[CharacterDevelopment initially]]), making him seem immature just by virtue of being normal. May be justified in this case, seeing as how the fictional society in which they live apparently saddles young people with responsibilities up to and including conducting wars at much younger ages than we consider appropriate in ours. Some characters, like Itachi and Kakashi when they were young and Shikamaru take this to the point of being flat out WiseBeyondTheirYears.

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* ''Manga/{{Naruto}}'' is a strange case because while most of the young characters in it would fit the trope, Naruto himself is as mature as a person his age would really be ([[CharacterDevelopment initially]]), making him seem immature just by virtue of being normal. May be justified in this case, seeing as how the fictional society in which they live apparently saddles young people with responsibilities up to and including conducting wars at much younger ages than we consider appropriate in ours. Some characters, like Itachi and Kakashi when they were young young, and Shikamaru take this to the point of being flat out WiseBeyondTheirYears.



* Subverted in ''Manga/AzumangaDaioh'', Chiyo is 10 and a ChildGenius who skipped a few classes due to that, but acts her age because she's smart but lacks the life experience needed. The other girls, usually around 15, also behave like teenage girls should.

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* Subverted in ''Manga/AzumangaDaioh'', Chiyo is 10 and a ChildGenius ChildProdigy who skipped a few classes due to that, but acts her age because she's smart but lacks the life experience needed. The other girls, usually around 15, also behave like teenage girls should.
20th Sep '17 11:03:14 AM Pichu-kun
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* In ''Anime/{{Pokemon}}'' ten is the age at which one can leave home to become a Trainer and fend for him- or herself. And while they are still called "boys" and "girls" instead of "kids", they still look, talk, and sound more like teenagers (notably, fans have remarked about Hau from ''VideoGame/PokemonSunAndMoon'' actually acts like a pre-teen compared to the others). And how do they make money to support themselves (and their Pokémon) if they're traveling all the time and can't hold a job in any fixed location? [[note]]It could be argued that the answer to that last question is that it's like in the games, where you earn money by winning battles... but that becomes FridgeLogic when you remember that you earn money by battling other trainers (who presumably earn their money the same way), thus making the entire economy basically a giant pyramid scheme. That said, in the anime we see Jessie and James occasionally performing odd jobs for money (the times when they're not trying to pay off a debt). So it can be assumed that the trainers may sometimes do the same. And, of course, parents. They probably give their kids some starting cash for their journey, since we see them having jobs of their own sometimes. Oh yeah, and one episode addressed how the rarely mentioned government hands out funds to gym leaders.[[/note]] At the same time, the fictional society of Pokemon has the titular creatures being so centered into society that perhaps it's just very difficult to imagine how their society would have ended up similar to the real world, yet also much more differently.

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* In ''Anime/{{Pokemon}}'' ten is the age at which one can leave home to become a Trainer and fend for him- or herself. And while they are still called "boys" and "girls" instead of "kids", they still look, talk, and sound more like teenagers (notably, fans have remarked about Hau from ''VideoGame/PokemonSunAndMoon'' actually acts like a pre-teen compared to the others). And how do they make money to support themselves (and their Pokémon) if they're traveling all the time and can't hold a job in any fixed location? [[note]]It could be argued that the answer to that last question is that it's like in the games, where you earn money by winning battles... but that becomes FridgeLogic when you remember that you earn money by battling other trainers (who presumably earn their money the same way), thus making the entire economy basically a giant pyramid scheme. That said, in the anime we see Jessie and James occasionally performing odd jobs for money (the times when they're not trying to pay off a debt). So it can be assumed that the trainers may sometimes do the same. And, of course, parents. They probably give their kids some starting cash for their journey, since we see them having jobs of their own sometimes. Oh yeah, and one episode addressed how the rarely mentioned government hands out funds to gym leaders.[[/note]] At the same time, the fictional society of Pokemon ''Pokemon'' has the titular creatures being so centered into society that perhaps it's just very difficult to imagine how their society would have ended up similar to the real world, yet also much more differently.



* This is a common criticism of ''Manga/ShugoChara'' where the 11-12 year old protagonists act like they're 15/16. Oddly enough. Utau, who is actually 15, still acts more mature (Although, some - times, it [[BigEater only]] [[IWasJustPassingThrough is]] [[TheGlomp an act.]]), whereas Ikuto, who is two years older than her, is actually more of an [[TheTrickster impish]] figure, but still manages to be probably more mature than ''her'' when he isn't doing that. (Although whether it's for the best or not is [[PoorCommunicationKills variable.]]) Conversely, the protagonists can also act immature for their age as well. In the manga, Amu screams "this isn't in the health manual!" after seeing the guardian eggs for the first time and wonders why her fifth grade classmates are talking about bras [[RealityisUnrealistic even though most girls begin puberty at that age and have a vague idea about sex and reproduction.]] And there's Yaya, whose rationale for her immaturity is being unable to cope with her baby brother's birth... err, Peach Pit? [[SpaceDoesNotWorkThatWay Pre-teens do not work that way.]]

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* This is a common criticism of ''Manga/ShugoChara'' where the 11-12 year old protagonists act like they're 15/16. Oddly enough. Utau, who is actually 15, still acts more mature (Although, some - times, it [[BigEater only]] [[IWasJustPassingThrough is]] [[TheGlomp an act.]]), whereas Ikuto, who is two years older than her, is actually more of an [[TheTrickster impish]] figure, but still manages to be probably more mature than ''her'' when he isn't doing that. (Although whether it's for the best or not is [[PoorCommunicationKills variable.]]) Conversely, the protagonists can also act immature for their age as well. In the manga, Amu screams "this isn't in the health manual!" after seeing the guardian eggs for the first time and wonders why her fifth grade classmates are talking about bras [[RealityisUnrealistic even though most girls begin puberty at that age and have a vague idea about sex and reproduction.]] And there's Yaya, whose rationale for her immaturity is being unable to cope with her baby brother's birth... err, Peach Pit? [[SpaceDoesNotWorkThatWay Pre-teens do not work that way.]]



* Subverted in ''Manga/AzumangaDaioh'', Chiyo is 10 and a TeenGenius who skipped a few classes due to that, but acts her age because she's smart but lacks the life experience needed. The other girls, usually around 15, also behave like teenage girls should.

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* Subverted in ''Manga/AzumangaDaioh'', Chiyo is 10 and a TeenGenius ChildGenius who skipped a few classes due to that, but acts her age because she's smart but lacks the life experience needed. The other girls, usually around 15, also behave like teenage girls should.



* ''Literature/TheBabysittersClub''. It seems that any time they actually ACT like typical 11 or 13 year olds Stacey would find them quite immature. Of course thinking you're SO much more mature than everyone else is also typical 13 year old behavior as well.

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* ''Literature/TheBabysittersClub''. ''Literature/TheBabysittersClub'':
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It seems that any time they actually ACT like typical 11 or 13 year olds Stacey would find them quite immature. Of course thinking you're SO much more mature than everyone else is also typical 13 year old behavior as well.



*** Though set even farther back in time, Emma is untroubled watching "just turned thirteen" Milly pine over Prince Jasper (who's probably at least sixteen, since he was courting her sister at her sixteenth birthday party), and reflects that she is a bit young for marriage, but not too young to start thinking about it. [[spoiler:at the end of the book, they decide to marry (it's only been a few days, so they're no older) and Emma is delighted for them.]] Princess Hazel, turning sixteen, announces her fiancé on her birthday and they will marry soon.
*** while this is actually pretty historically accurate for the time, the issue is more that the books are marketed towards younger children, where such facts are more likely to be subverted: though little kids are more likely to think of a sixteen year old as an adult; adults looking at the books and imagining actual fourteen year olds marrying is a little weird.

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*** Though set even farther back in time, Emma is untroubled watching "just turned thirteen" Milly pine over Prince Jasper (who's probably at least sixteen, since he was courting her sister at her sixteenth birthday party), and reflects that she is a bit young for marriage, but not too young to start thinking about it. [[spoiler:at the end of the book, they decide to marry (it's only been a few days, so they're no older) and Emma is delighted for them.]] Princess Hazel, turning sixteen, announces her fiancé on her birthday and they will marry soon.
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soon. While this is actually pretty historically accurate for the time, the issue is more that the books are marketed towards younger children, where such facts are more likely to be subverted: though little kids are more likely to think of a sixteen year old as an adult; adults looking at the books and imagining actual fourteen year olds marrying is a little weird.


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** While the original ''Franchise/{{Degrassi}}'' shows avert this, this began appearing starting with ''Series/{{Degrassi}}''. The teens act more like college students then high schoolers.
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