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2nd Dec '17 11:34:08 AM SeptimusHeap
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* The original ComicBook/NewMutants (oxymoron noted) of Comicbook/{{X-Men}} fame had this problem with some of the kids. Moonstar and Cannonball both acted very mature for their age, though Moonstar had a lot of youthful impetuousness and rebellion in her, picking fights for no reason (particularly against authority figures like Professor X). Karma basically acted like an adult woman (though there are reasons in-universe for this -- she had a ''very'' traumatic past in Vietnam). Magik has a similarly-horrible upbringing (except she basically was raised in Hell), and so acts in much the same way (albeit with a more sinister, trickster bent). Magma was a mature aristocrat from a Roman colony. Sunspot and Wolfsbane were the only two early kids who acted like most adults would expect kids to act -- immature, unsure, etc. Of course they used verbose language unexpected of teens, but this is Creator/ChrisClaremont we're talking about (even his ''adult'' characters were wordsmiths). At least in between adventures, they had typical teen angst about things like crushes (Sam especially crushes on Magma in the early issues), dating, parties and fashion. The series at least certainly captured the ''feel'' of being a teenager -- nearly all of the kids suffered identity crises, rankled against authority, and had to deal with crushing insecurity.

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* The original ComicBook/NewMutants (oxymoron noted) of Comicbook/{{X-Men}} Comicbook/XMen fame had this problem with some of the kids. Moonstar and Cannonball both acted very mature for their age, though Moonstar had a lot of youthful impetuousness and rebellion in her, picking fights for no reason (particularly against authority figures like Professor X). Karma basically acted like an adult woman (though there are reasons in-universe for this -- she had a ''very'' traumatic past in Vietnam). Magik has a similarly-horrible upbringing (except she basically was raised in Hell), and so acts in much the same way (albeit with a more sinister, trickster bent). Magma was a mature aristocrat from a Roman colony. Sunspot and Wolfsbane were the only two early kids who acted like most adults would expect kids to act -- immature, unsure, etc. Of course they used verbose language unexpected of teens, but this is Creator/ChrisClaremont we're talking about (even his ''adult'' characters were wordsmiths). At least in between adventures, they had typical teen angst about things like crushes (Sam especially crushes on Magma in the early issues), dating, parties and fashion. The series at least certainly captured the ''feel'' of being a teenager -- nearly all of the kids suffered identity crises, rankled against authority, and had to deal with crushing insecurity.
29th Nov '17 11:19:14 AM PDL
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* ''VideoGame/BackyardSports''.

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* %%* ''VideoGame/BackyardSports''.
20th Sep '17 6:20:02 PM Pichu-kun
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* ''Manga/{{Naruto}}'' is a strange case because while most of the young characters in it would fit the trope, Naruto himself is as mature as a person his age would really be ([[CharacterDevelopment initially]]), making him seem immature just by virtue of being normal. May be justified in this case, seeing as how the fictional society in which they live apparently saddles young people with responsibilities up to and including conducting wars at much younger ages than we consider appropriate in ours. Some characters, like Itachi and Kakashi when they were young and Shikamaru take this to the point of being flat out WiseBeyondTheirYears.

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* ''Manga/{{Naruto}}'' is a strange case because while most of the young characters in it would fit the trope, Naruto himself is as mature as a person his age would really be ([[CharacterDevelopment initially]]), making him seem immature just by virtue of being normal. May be justified in this case, seeing as how the fictional society in which they live apparently saddles young people with responsibilities up to and including conducting wars at much younger ages than we consider appropriate in ours. Some characters, like Itachi and Kakashi when they were young young, and Shikamaru take this to the point of being flat out WiseBeyondTheirYears.



* Subverted in ''Manga/AzumangaDaioh'', Chiyo is 10 and a ChildGenius who skipped a few classes due to that, but acts her age because she's smart but lacks the life experience needed. The other girls, usually around 15, also behave like teenage girls should.

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* Subverted in ''Manga/AzumangaDaioh'', Chiyo is 10 and a ChildGenius ChildProdigy who skipped a few classes due to that, but acts her age because she's smart but lacks the life experience needed. The other girls, usually around 15, also behave like teenage girls should.
20th Sep '17 11:03:14 AM Pichu-kun
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* In ''Anime/{{Pokemon}}'' ten is the age at which one can leave home to become a Trainer and fend for him- or herself. And while they are still called "boys" and "girls" instead of "kids", they still look, talk, and sound more like teenagers (notably, fans have remarked about Hau from ''VideoGame/PokemonSunAndMoon'' actually acts like a pre-teen compared to the others). And how do they make money to support themselves (and their Pokémon) if they're traveling all the time and can't hold a job in any fixed location? [[note]]It could be argued that the answer to that last question is that it's like in the games, where you earn money by winning battles... but that becomes FridgeLogic when you remember that you earn money by battling other trainers (who presumably earn their money the same way), thus making the entire economy basically a giant pyramid scheme. That said, in the anime we see Jessie and James occasionally performing odd jobs for money (the times when they're not trying to pay off a debt). So it can be assumed that the trainers may sometimes do the same. And, of course, parents. They probably give their kids some starting cash for their journey, since we see them having jobs of their own sometimes. Oh yeah, and one episode addressed how the rarely mentioned government hands out funds to gym leaders.[[/note]] At the same time, the fictional society of Pokemon has the titular creatures being so centered into society that perhaps it's just very difficult to imagine how their society would have ended up similar to the real world, yet also much more differently.

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* In ''Anime/{{Pokemon}}'' ten is the age at which one can leave home to become a Trainer and fend for him- or herself. And while they are still called "boys" and "girls" instead of "kids", they still look, talk, and sound more like teenagers (notably, fans have remarked about Hau from ''VideoGame/PokemonSunAndMoon'' actually acts like a pre-teen compared to the others). And how do they make money to support themselves (and their Pokémon) if they're traveling all the time and can't hold a job in any fixed location? [[note]]It could be argued that the answer to that last question is that it's like in the games, where you earn money by winning battles... but that becomes FridgeLogic when you remember that you earn money by battling other trainers (who presumably earn their money the same way), thus making the entire economy basically a giant pyramid scheme. That said, in the anime we see Jessie and James occasionally performing odd jobs for money (the times when they're not trying to pay off a debt). So it can be assumed that the trainers may sometimes do the same. And, of course, parents. They probably give their kids some starting cash for their journey, since we see them having jobs of their own sometimes. Oh yeah, and one episode addressed how the rarely mentioned government hands out funds to gym leaders.[[/note]] At the same time, the fictional society of Pokemon ''Pokemon'' has the titular creatures being so centered into society that perhaps it's just very difficult to imagine how their society would have ended up similar to the real world, yet also much more differently.



* This is a common criticism of ''Manga/ShugoChara'' where the 11-12 year old protagonists act like they're 15/16. Oddly enough. Utau, who is actually 15, still acts more mature (Although, some - times, it [[BigEater only]] [[IWasJustPassingThrough is]] [[TheGlomp an act.]]), whereas Ikuto, who is two years older than her, is actually more of an [[TheTrickster impish]] figure, but still manages to be probably more mature than ''her'' when he isn't doing that. (Although whether it's for the best or not is [[PoorCommunicationKills variable.]]) Conversely, the protagonists can also act immature for their age as well. In the manga, Amu screams "this isn't in the health manual!" after seeing the guardian eggs for the first time and wonders why her fifth grade classmates are talking about bras [[RealityisUnrealistic even though most girls begin puberty at that age and have a vague idea about sex and reproduction.]] And there's Yaya, whose rationale for her immaturity is being unable to cope with her baby brother's birth... err, Peach Pit? [[SpaceDoesNotWorkThatWay Pre-teens do not work that way.]]

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* This is a common criticism of ''Manga/ShugoChara'' where the 11-12 year old protagonists act like they're 15/16. Oddly enough. Utau, who is actually 15, still acts more mature (Although, some - times, it [[BigEater only]] [[IWasJustPassingThrough is]] [[TheGlomp an act.]]), whereas Ikuto, who is two years older than her, is actually more of an [[TheTrickster impish]] figure, but still manages to be probably more mature than ''her'' when he isn't doing that. (Although whether it's for the best or not is [[PoorCommunicationKills variable.]]) Conversely, the protagonists can also act immature for their age as well. In the manga, Amu screams "this isn't in the health manual!" after seeing the guardian eggs for the first time and wonders why her fifth grade classmates are talking about bras [[RealityisUnrealistic even though most girls begin puberty at that age and have a vague idea about sex and reproduction.]] And there's Yaya, whose rationale for her immaturity is being unable to cope with her baby brother's birth... err, Peach Pit? [[SpaceDoesNotWorkThatWay Pre-teens do not work that way.]]



* Subverted in ''Manga/AzumangaDaioh'', Chiyo is 10 and a TeenGenius who skipped a few classes due to that, but acts her age because she's smart but lacks the life experience needed. The other girls, usually around 15, also behave like teenage girls should.

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* Subverted in ''Manga/AzumangaDaioh'', Chiyo is 10 and a TeenGenius ChildGenius who skipped a few classes due to that, but acts her age because she's smart but lacks the life experience needed. The other girls, usually around 15, also behave like teenage girls should.



* ''Literature/TheBabysittersClub''. It seems that any time they actually ACT like typical 11 or 13 year olds Stacey would find them quite immature. Of course thinking you're SO much more mature than everyone else is also typical 13 year old behavior as well.

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* ''Literature/TheBabysittersClub''. ''Literature/TheBabysittersClub'':
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It seems that any time they actually ACT like typical 11 or 13 year olds Stacey would find them quite immature. Of course thinking you're SO much more mature than everyone else is also typical 13 year old behavior as well.



*** Though set even farther back in time, Emma is untroubled watching "just turned thirteen" Milly pine over Prince Jasper (who's probably at least sixteen, since he was courting her sister at her sixteenth birthday party), and reflects that she is a bit young for marriage, but not too young to start thinking about it. [[spoiler:at the end of the book, they decide to marry (it's only been a few days, so they're no older) and Emma is delighted for them.]] Princess Hazel, turning sixteen, announces her fiancé on her birthday and they will marry soon.
*** while this is actually pretty historically accurate for the time, the issue is more that the books are marketed towards younger children, where such facts are more likely to be subverted: though little kids are more likely to think of a sixteen year old as an adult; adults looking at the books and imagining actual fourteen year olds marrying is a little weird.

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*** Though set even farther back in time, Emma is untroubled watching "just turned thirteen" Milly pine over Prince Jasper (who's probably at least sixteen, since he was courting her sister at her sixteenth birthday party), and reflects that she is a bit young for marriage, but not too young to start thinking about it. [[spoiler:at the end of the book, they decide to marry (it's only been a few days, so they're no older) and Emma is delighted for them.]] Princess Hazel, turning sixteen, announces her fiancé on her birthday and they will marry soon.
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soon. While this is actually pretty historically accurate for the time, the issue is more that the books are marketed towards younger children, where such facts are more likely to be subverted: though little kids are more likely to think of a sixteen year old as an adult; adults looking at the books and imagining actual fourteen year olds marrying is a little weird.


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** While the original ''Franchise/{{Degrassi}}'' shows avert this, this began appearing starting with ''Series/{{Degrassi}}''. The teens act more like college students then high schoolers.
9th Sep '17 9:42:12 PM nombretomado
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* ''BackyardSports''.

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* ''BackyardSports''.''VideoGame/BackyardSports''.
23rd Aug '17 7:05:58 AM ImperialMajestyXO
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** Watching a group of supposedly ''eight and nine year olds'' (Arthur and his group are stated to be in the third grade, with the occasional fourth-grader) biking around a city, holding jobs, and doing things that are generally more suited for early teens doesn't really make sense. Particularly all those scenes in the Sugar Bowl without a parent in sight... and not to mention the school. Lockers and many-page reports for third graders? Seems more like a junior high than an elementary school, really. Considering Ratburn, though, he just might assign rather difficult work for third graders. One throwaway line was something like, "For today's test, identify every country on this map of the world. And as always, spelling counts."

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** Watching a group of supposedly ''eight and nine year olds'' (Arthur and his group are stated to be in the third grade, with the occasional fourth-grader) biking around a city, holding jobs, and doing things that are generally more suited for early teens doesn't really make sense. Particularly all those scenes in the Sugar Bowl without a parent in sight... and not to mention the school. Lockers and many-page reports for third graders? Seems more like a junior high than an elementary school, really. Considering Ratburn, [[SternTeacher Ratburn]], though, he just might assign rather difficult work for third graders. One throwaway line was something like, "For today's test, identify every country on this map of the world. And as always, spelling counts."
23rd Aug '17 6:55:59 AM ImperialMajestyXO
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See also ImprobableAge and VagueAge. Sometimes results in MenaceDecay. Compare MostWritersAreHuman. Contrast KiddieKid, when children behave in ways they'd realistically be too old for, and ManChild, when adults behave in childish ways.

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May involve LittleProfessorDialog. See also ImprobableAge and VagueAge. Sometimes results in MenaceDecay. Compare MostWritersAreHuman. Contrast KiddieKid, when children behave in ways they'd realistically be too old for, and ManChild, when adults behave in childish ways.
10th Aug '17 11:36:16 AM SeptimusHeap
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* Taken to '''sickening''' levels in ''Literature/TheClique'' series, where the 12-13 year old protgaonists act like women in their 20's with all the implications that follow. It's so prevalent that some critics compared it to {{Lolicon}}.

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* Taken to '''sickening''' levels in ''Literature/TheClique'' series, where the 12-13 year old protgaonists protagonists act like women in their 20's with all the implications that follow. It's so prevalent that some critics compared it to {{Lolicon}}.
9th Aug '17 10:03:40 AM Monolaf317
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* ''WesternAnimation/{{Rugrats}}'' is justified with the babies, if the babies actually acted like babies there would be no show. So they act closer to 3-5 years old except they can't communicate with the adults. On the other hand, Angelica, who is supposed to be 3, is able to communicate with the adults, and is far more articulate than a 3 year old should be. Making her a straight example. This one was mocked in a ''WesternAnimation/FairlyOddParents'' movie, where Timmy Turner enters a show which looks the same, but with the children actually acting like the toddlers they are.

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* ''WesternAnimation/{{Rugrats}}'' is justified with the babies, babies; if the babies actually acted like babies babies, there would be no show. So they act closer to 3-5 years old except they can't communicate with the adults. On the other hand, Angelica, who is supposed to be 3, is able to communicate with the adults, and is far more articulate than a 3 year old should be. Making her a straight example. This one was mocked in a ''WesternAnimation/FairlyOddParents'' movie, where Timmy Turner enters a show which looks the same, but with the children actually acting like the toddlers they are.
18th Jun '17 2:56:05 PM RCLeahcar
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** This also applies to D.W. to a lesser extent, as she's a preschooler who looks and acts more like a first or second grader.

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** This also applies to D.W. to a lesser extent, as she's a preschooler who looks and acts more like a first or second grader. Her speech and language is also on par with Arthur and his friends!
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