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25th Aug '17 10:39:15 AM MaulMachine
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* Across Creator/JRRTolkien's Middle-Earth, many of the same creatures that once served [[{{Satan}} Morgoth]] transferred their loyalty to [[Literature/TheLordOfTheRings Sauron]] when he took over as BigBad. In this case, that would be because Sauron was TheDragon to Morgoth, so most of these minions would have been used to taking orders from him anyway. Notably, however, the EliteMooks such as the Balrog, the Dgraons, the smarter Drakes, and possibly the mysterious Vampires that are mentioned exactly twice in the Silmarillion do ''not'' switch sides, something that Gandalf mentions Sauron finds irritating. Sauron makes up for this by breeding colossal armies of individually-weak Orcs, which are both far more pliant and far less like to assert independence.

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* Across Creator/JRRTolkien's Middle-Earth, many of the same creatures that once served [[{{Satan}} Morgoth]] transferred their loyalty to [[Literature/TheLordOfTheRings Sauron]] when he took over as BigBad. In this case, that would be because Sauron was TheDragon to Morgoth, so most of these minions would have been used to taking orders from him anyway. Notably, however, the EliteMooks such as the Balrog, the Dgraons, Dragons, the smarter Drakes, and possibly the mysterious Vampires that are mentioned exactly twice in the Silmarillion do ''not'' switch sides, something that Gandalf mentions Sauron finds irritating. Sauron makes up for this by breeding colossal armies of individually-weak Orcs, which are both far more pliant and far less like to assert independence.
25th Aug '17 10:38:57 AM MaulMachine
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* Across Creator/JRRTolkien's Middle-Earth, many of the same creatures that once served [[{{Satan}} Morgoth]] transferred their loyalty to [[Literature/TheLordOfTheRings Sauron]] when he took over as BigBad. In this case, that would be because Sauron was TheDragon to Morgoth, so most of these minions would have been used to taking orders from him anyway.

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* Across Creator/JRRTolkien's Middle-Earth, many of the same creatures that once served [[{{Satan}} Morgoth]] transferred their loyalty to [[Literature/TheLordOfTheRings Sauron]] when he took over as BigBad. In this case, that would be because Sauron was TheDragon to Morgoth, so most of these minions would have been used to taking orders from him anyway. Notably, however, the EliteMooks such as the Balrog, the Dgraons, the smarter Drakes, and possibly the mysterious Vampires that are mentioned exactly twice in the Silmarillion do ''not'' switch sides, something that Gandalf mentions Sauron finds irritating. Sauron makes up for this by breeding colossal armies of individually-weak Orcs, which are both far more pliant and far less like to assert independence.
1st Aug '17 10:56:20 AM xcountryguy
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* The character Ogre in ''Film/RevengeOfTheNerds'' shows up in the sequel in a different chapter of the Alpha Beta fraternity. The brothers he had in the original film are all gone, apparently defeated. Although later, [[spoiler: they ditch Ogre after he's served his purpose as dumb muscle, leaving him to join the all-accepting nerds as ''their'' dumb muscle]].

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* The character Ogre in ''Film/RevengeOfTheNerds'' shows up in the sequel in a different chapter of the Alpha Beta fraternity. The brothers he had in the original film are all gone, apparently defeated. Although later, [[spoiler: they [[spoiler:they ditch Ogre after he's served his purpose as dumb muscle, leaving him to join the all-accepting nerds as ''their'' dumb muscle]].



* In ''Literature/{{Mistborn}}'', after [[spoiler: [[EvilOverlord the Lord Ruler]]'s]] death, many of his most powerful minions, notably [[OurOrcsAreDifferent Koloss]] and [[ImplacableMan Inquisitors]], start working for new BigBad [[spoiler: Ruin]]. Justified in this case because the Lord Ruler created these beings and built a psychic "back door" into them so that he could always control them; with him out of the way, the far more powerful [[spoiler: Ruin]] was equally capable of exploiting said "door". His human minions are a much more mixed bag, with some joining the heroes and others various BigBadWannabe kings.

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* In ''Literature/{{Mistborn}}'', after [[spoiler: [[EvilOverlord [[spoiler:[[EvilOverlord the Lord Ruler]]'s]] death, many of his most powerful minions, notably [[OurOrcsAreDifferent Koloss]] and [[ImplacableMan Inquisitors]], start working for new BigBad [[spoiler: Ruin]]. [[spoiler:Ruin]]. Justified in this case because the Lord Ruler created these beings and built a psychic "back door" into them so that he could always control them; with him out of the way, the far more powerful [[spoiler: Ruin]] [[spoiler:Ruin]] was equally capable of exploiting said "door". His human minions are a much more mixed bag, with some joining the heroes and others various BigBadWannabe kings.



* In ''VideoGame/{{Overlord}}'' you're invoking this trope by taking control of the previous Overlord's tower and minions. [[spoiler: The final level sees him turn up to reclaim them, forcing you to regain their loyalty the old fashioned way.]] In fact there have been a whole chain of Overlords over the years, but they all use the same sort of Minions and even a couple of the same individuals. In the second game they actively recruit a new Overlord as a child and raise him to be their new boss.

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* In ''VideoGame/{{Overlord}}'' you're invoking this trope by taking control of the previous Overlord's tower and minions. [[spoiler: The [[spoiler:The final level sees him turn up to reclaim them, forcing you to regain their loyalty the old fashioned way.]] In fact there have been a whole chain of Overlords over the years, but they all use the same sort of Minions and even a couple of the same individuals. In the second game they actively recruit a new Overlord as a child and raise him to be their new boss.
16th Jun '17 3:02:01 PM StFan
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* ''EpicBattleFantasy'' has mooks from the first two games appear in the third game as Akron's mooks.

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* ''EpicBattleFantasy'' ''VideoGame/EpicBattleFantasy'' has mooks from the first two games appear in the third game as Akron's mooks.



* In ''VideoGame/MarioAndLuigiBowsersInsideStory'', Bowser encounters a few Monty moles who used to work for him. Turns out they've gone over to Fawful's side.
** This is actually a pretty common trope in the Mario series. Oftentimes you'll notice SuperMarioBros mainstay mooks working for {{Big Bad}}s that have deposed Bowser as the game's antagonist. In a variation, they may just be [[UndergroundMonkey different versions]] of these same enemies themed for the new antagonist in question.
* VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaSkywardSword does this retroactively, wherein Ganon's usual Moblins and Bokoblins serve as Ghirahim and [[spoiler:Demise]]'s minions instead. [[spoiler:Given that Ganon the living incarnation of Demise's hatred, this makes sense]].

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* ''Franchise/SuperMarioBros'':
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In ''VideoGame/MarioAndLuigiBowsersInsideStory'', Bowser encounters a few Monty moles who used to work for him. Turns out they've gone over to Fawful's side.
** This is actually a pretty common trope in the Mario series. Oftentimes you'll notice SuperMarioBros mainstay mooks working for {{Big Bad}}s that have deposed Bowser as the game's antagonist. In a variation, they may just be [[UndergroundMonkey different versions]] of these same enemies themed for the new antagonist in question.
* VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaSkywardSword ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaSkywardSword'' does this retroactively, wherein Ganon's usual Moblins and Bokoblins serve as Ghirahim and [[spoiler:Demise]]'s minions instead. [[spoiler:Given that Ganon the living incarnation of Demise's hatred, this makes sense]].



** Inverted with the Shadowkhan, who are introduced as the EliteMooks of Shendu, but are revealed to have orignally served Tarakudo; Shendu basically stole them.

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** Inverted with the Shadowkhan, who are introduced as the EliteMooks of Shendu, but are revealed to have orignally originally served Tarakudo; Shendu basically stole them.



10th Apr '17 10:46:20 PM Archimedes
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* ''WesternAnimation/TransformersPrime'': Not a exactly a textbook example, but when Airachnid was put in stasis, Megatron and the Decepticons were quick to appropriate her [[TheJuggernaut Insecticon]] hive for their own use.

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* ''WesternAnimation/TransformersPrime'': Not a exactly a textbook example, but when Airachnid was put in stasis, Megatron and the Decepticons were quick to appropriate her [[TheJuggernaut [[GiantMook Insecticon]] hive for their own use.
26th Dec '16 2:42:30 AM FordPrefect
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* The character Ogre in ''Film/RevengeOfTheNerds'' shows up in the sequel in a different chapter of the Alpha Beta fraternity. The brothers he had in the original film are all gone, apparently defeated. Although later, [[spoiler: they ditch Ogre after he's served his purpose as dumb muscle, leaving him to join the all-accepting nerds as ''their'' dumb muscle]]

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* The character Ogre in ''Film/RevengeOfTheNerds'' shows up in the sequel in a different chapter of the Alpha Beta fraternity. The brothers he had in the original film are all gone, apparently defeated. Although later, [[spoiler: they ditch Ogre after he's served his purpose as dumb muscle, leaving him to join the all-accepting nerds as ''their'' dumb muscle]]muscle]].



* Throughout the course of ''Film/TheDarkKnight'', many of the mobsters goons turn to SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker (after some "auditions").

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* Throughout the course of ''Film/TheDarkKnight'', many of the mobsters mobsters' goons turn to SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker (after some "auditions").


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* In ''Film/DemolitionMan'', Associate Bob works for whoever's taking the lead at the moment: first Dr. Cocteau, then Simon Phoenix, then Edgar Friendly (an implicit HeelFaceTurn).
26th Dec '16 2:33:43 AM FordPrefect
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Whether they are still effective or not depends on which they [[VillainForgotToLevelGrind remembered to keep their skills sharp,]] [[JokeCharacter assuming they were very skilled in the first place.]]

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Whether they are still effective or not depends on which whether they [[VillainForgotToLevelGrind remembered to keep their skills sharp,]] [[JokeCharacter assuming they were very skilled in the first place.]]
27th Aug '16 9:15:38 AM ImpudentInfidel
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* In ''VideoGame/{{Overlord}}'' you're invoking this trope by taking control of the previous Overlord's tower and minions. [[spoiler: The final level sees him turn up to reclaim them, forcing you to regain their loyalty the old fashioned way.]] In fact there have been a whole chain of Overlords over the years, but they all use the same sort of Minions and even a couple of the same individuals

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* In ''VideoGame/{{Overlord}}'' you're invoking this trope by taking control of the previous Overlord's tower and minions. [[spoiler: The final level sees him turn up to reclaim them, forcing you to regain their loyalty the old fashioned way.]] In fact there have been a whole chain of Overlords over the years, but they all use the same sort of Minions and even a couple of the same individualsindividuals. In the second game they actively recruit a new Overlord as a child and raise him to be their new boss.
27th Aug '16 9:11:27 AM ImpudentInfidel
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** ''WesternAnimation/StarWarsRebels'' revealed that by the time of the original trilogy the clones had all retired and been replaced by conventional soldiers with relatively poor training; the armor style is just similar.
4th Jul '16 11:41:21 AM nombretomado
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* ''Franchise/{{Bionicle}}'':

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