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17th Apr '18 7:04:20 PM nombretomado
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* If you've met a disgruntled fan of ''Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire'', they'll probably tell you that the recent SeasonalRot of ''Literature/AFeastForCrows'' and ''Literature/ADanceWithDragons'' is evidence that Creator/GeorgeRRMartin ran out of ideas after the third book, and currently [[WritingByTheSeatOfYourPants has no idea where the series is going]]. While the series' rather {{egregious}} case of ScheduleSlip is no one's fault but Martin's (and he's admitted as much), the truth about the slow pace of the plot is a bit more complicated. As Martin has confirmed in multiple interviews, he knows ''exactly'' where the plot is going, and he has for years. The problem is that ''Crows'' and ''Dragons'' [[WhatCouldHaveBeen weren't even supposed to exist in his original plan for the series]]; he wanted to have a lengthy TimeSkip after the events of ''Literature/AStormOfSwords'' that would have set up the final climax of the series in the next books (hence, why so many major characters [[KilledOffForReal die]] or [[PutOnABus leave]] at the end of that book). When he realized that that plan wouldn't work, he had to write two new books as a bridge between the first act and the final act; if [[BreatherEpisode not much seems to happen]] in those books, it's because they're only meant to set up the climax that Martin originally wanted to write much earlier. And yes, Martin ''does'' know how the series is supposed to end: he's already shared the planned ending of the series with the producers of ''Series/GameOfThrones'' in case they get to the ending before he does.

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* If you've met a disgruntled fan of ''Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire'', they'll probably tell you that the recent SeasonalRot of ''Literature/AFeastForCrows'' and ''Literature/ADanceWithDragons'' is evidence that Creator/GeorgeRRMartin ran out of ideas after the third book, and currently [[WritingByTheSeatOfYourPants has no idea where the series is going]]. While the series' rather {{egregious}} JustForFun/{{egregious}} case of ScheduleSlip is no one's fault but Martin's (and he's admitted as much), the truth about the slow pace of the plot is a bit more complicated. As Martin has confirmed in multiple interviews, he knows ''exactly'' where the plot is going, and he has for years. The problem is that ''Crows'' and ''Dragons'' [[WhatCouldHaveBeen weren't even supposed to exist in his original plan for the series]]; he wanted to have a lengthy TimeSkip after the events of ''Literature/AStormOfSwords'' that would have set up the final climax of the series in the next books (hence, why so many major characters [[KilledOffForReal die]] or [[PutOnABus leave]] at the end of that book). When he realized that that plan wouldn't work, he had to write two new books as a bridge between the first act and the final act; if [[BreatherEpisode not much seems to happen]] in those books, it's because they're only meant to set up the climax that Martin originally wanted to write much earlier. And yes, Martin ''does'' know how the series is supposed to end: he's already shared the planned ending of the series with the producers of ''Series/GameOfThrones'' in case they get to the ending before he does.
30th Mar '18 9:11:12 PM Gammaween10
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* As a result of the FandomRivalry, many ''WesternAnimation/GravityFalls'' fans blame ''WesternAnimation/PhineasAndFerb'' for Disney Channel's bad treatment of ''Gravity Falls''. This is not true, as 'WesternAnimation/PhineasAndFerb'' hardly shows episodes on the channel anymore and Alex Hirsch wants the animators to take their time animating and producing the episodes.

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* As a result of the FandomRivalry, many ''WesternAnimation/GravityFalls'' fans blame ''WesternAnimation/PhineasAndFerb'' for Disney Channel's bad treatment of ''Gravity Falls''. This is not true, as 'WesternAnimation/PhineasAndFerb'' ''Phineas and Ferb'' hardly shows episodes on the channel anymore and Alex Hirsch wants the animators to take their time animating and producing the episodes.



* After the infamous ''WesternAnimation/PickleAndPeanut'' was renewed for a second season, fans got angry at it because of the cancellation of ''WesternAnimation/WanderOverYonder''. The truth is that ''Pickle and Peanut'' itself is ignored by the network, being placed in a year-long hiatus after its first season, and like [[RandyCunninghamNinthGradeNinja several]] [[WanderOverYonder other]] [[The7D Disney XD]] [[PennZeroPartTimeHero cartoons]] it probably won't last beyond Season 2.

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* After the infamous ''WesternAnimation/PickleAndPeanut'' was renewed for a second season, fans got angry at it because of the cancellation of ''WesternAnimation/WanderOverYonder''. The truth is that ''Pickle and Peanut'' itself is ignored by the network, being placed in a year-long hiatus after its first season, and like [[RandyCunninghamNinthGradeNinja [[WesternAnimation/RandyCunninghamNinthGradeNinja several]] [[WanderOverYonder [[WesternAnimation/WanderOverYonder other]] [[The7D [[WesternAnimation/The7D Disney XD]] [[PennZeroPartTimeHero [[WesternAnimation/PennZeroPartTimeHero cartoons]] it probably won't last beyond Season 2.
15th Mar '18 12:35:28 PM thelivingtoad
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* Richard Lester gets a lot of flack for the campier tone of ''Film/SupermanII'' as compared to the more serious tone of ''Film/{{Superman}}'' (which was directed by Richard Donner). In fact, given the chaos surrounding the production of ''Superman II'' (including the firing of Richard Donner, Gene Hackman walking out and Marlon Brando refusing the use of the footage filmed of him), the fact that Richard Lester was able to get a coherent film out at all is worthy of praise. Donner's cut of the film was released on DVD in 2006, but as [[http://www.agonybooth.com/movies/Superman_II_The_Donner_Cut_2006.aspx this review]] shows, it's not as if Richard Donner's proposed cut would be any less campy. The blame really rests with the producers, Alexander and Ilya Salkind, who insisted on an extremely campy, humorous approach (even moreso than what we ended up getting) similar to the '60s ''Batman'' series, and replaced Donner because he wouldn't give it to them-- neverminding that his vision for the first film became a critical and financial success in spite of their wishes.

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* Richard Lester gets a lot of flack for the campier tone of ''Film/SupermanII'' as compared to the more serious tone of ''Film/{{Superman}}'' (which was directed by Richard Donner). In fact, given the chaos surrounding the production of ''Superman II'' (including the firing of Richard Donner, Gene Hackman walking out and Marlon Brando refusing the use of the footage filmed of him), the fact that Richard Lester was able to get a coherent film out at all is worthy of praise. Donner's cut of the film was released on DVD in 2006, but as [[http://www.agonybooth.com/movies/Superman_II_The_Donner_Cut_2006.aspx this review]] shows, it's not as if Richard Donner's proposed cut would be his version of is any less campy. The blame really rests with the producers, Alexander and Ilya Salkind, who insisted on an extremely campy, humorous approach (even moreso than what we ended up getting) similar to the '60s ''Batman'' series, and replaced Donner because he wouldn't give it to them-- neverminding that his vision for the first film became a critical and financial success in spite of their wishes.
15th Mar '18 12:34:55 PM thelivingtoad
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* Richard Lester gets a lot of flack for the campier tone of ''Film/SupermanII'' as compared to the more serious tone of ''Film/{{Superman}}'' (which was directed by Richard Donner). In fact, given the chaos surrounding the production of ''Superman II'' (including the firing of Richard Donner, Gene Hackman walking out and Marlon Brando refusing the use of the footage filmed of him), the fact that Richard Lester was able to get a coherent film out at all is worthy of praise. Donner's cut of the film was released on DVDin 2006, but as [[http://www.agonybooth.com/movies/Superman_II_The_Donner_Cut_2006.aspx this review]] shows, it's not as if Richard Donner's proposed cut would be any less campy. The blame really rests with the producers, Alexander and Ilya Salkind, who insisted on an extremely campy, humorous approach (even moreso than what we ended up getting) similar to the '60s ''Batman'' series, and replaced Donner because he wouldn't give it to them-- neverminding that his vision for the first film became a critical and financial success in spite of their wishes.

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* Richard Lester gets a lot of flack for the campier tone of ''Film/SupermanII'' as compared to the more serious tone of ''Film/{{Superman}}'' (which was directed by Richard Donner). In fact, given the chaos surrounding the production of ''Superman II'' (including the firing of Richard Donner, Gene Hackman walking out and Marlon Brando refusing the use of the footage filmed of him), the fact that Richard Lester was able to get a coherent film out at all is worthy of praise. Donner's cut of the film was released on DVDin DVD in 2006, but as [[http://www.agonybooth.com/movies/Superman_II_The_Donner_Cut_2006.aspx this review]] shows, it's not as if Richard Donner's proposed cut would be any less campy. The blame really rests with the producers, Alexander and Ilya Salkind, who insisted on an extremely campy, humorous approach (even moreso than what we ended up getting) similar to the '60s ''Batman'' series, and replaced Donner because he wouldn't give it to them-- neverminding that his vision for the first film became a critical and financial success in spite of their wishes.
15th Mar '18 12:34:38 PM thelivingtoad
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* Richard Lester gets a lot of flack for the campier tone of ''Film/SupermanII'' as compared to the more serious tone of ''Film/{{Superman}}'' (which was directed by Richard Donner). In fact, given the chaos surrounding the production of ''Superman II'' (including the firing of Richard Donner, Gene Hackman walking out and Marlon Brando refusing the use of the footage filmed of him), the fact that Richard Lester was able to get a coherent film out at all is worthy of praise. Plus, as [[http://www.agonybooth.com/movies/Superman_II_The_Donner_Cut_2006.aspx this review]] shows, it's not as if Richard Donner's proposed cut would be any less campy. The blame really rests with the producers, Alexander and Ilya Salkind, who insisted on an extremely campy, humorous approach (even moreso than what we ended up getting) similar to the '60s ''Batman'' series, and replaced Donner because he wouldn't give it to them-- neverminding that his vision for the first film became a critical and financial success in spite of their wishes.

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* Richard Lester gets a lot of flack for the campier tone of ''Film/SupermanII'' as compared to the more serious tone of ''Film/{{Superman}}'' (which was directed by Richard Donner). In fact, given the chaos surrounding the production of ''Superman II'' (including the firing of Richard Donner, Gene Hackman walking out and Marlon Brando refusing the use of the footage filmed of him), the fact that Richard Lester was able to get a coherent film out at all is worthy of praise. Plus, Donner's cut of the film was released on DVDin 2006, but as [[http://www.agonybooth.com/movies/Superman_II_The_Donner_Cut_2006.aspx this review]] shows, it's not as if Richard Donner's proposed cut would be any less campy. The blame really rests with the producers, Alexander and Ilya Salkind, who insisted on an extremely campy, humorous approach (even moreso than what we ended up getting) similar to the '60s ''Batman'' series, and replaced Donner because he wouldn't give it to them-- neverminding that his vision for the first film became a critical and financial success in spite of their wishes.
15th Mar '18 12:22:02 PM thelivingtoad
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** For that matter, pretty much ''every'' Adaptation of Hitchhiker's Guide was criticized for differences from the source material and crying "AdaptationDecay", despite that Adams has actually stated that he ''wanted'' the adaptations to be different.

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** For that matter, pretty much ''every'' Adaptation adaptation of Hitchhiker's Guide ''Hitchhiker's Guide'' was criticized for differences from the source material and crying "AdaptationDecay", despite the fact that Adams has actually stated was directly involved with every one of them that was made when he ''wanted'' the adaptations was alive, and intentionally designed each of them to be different.have significant differences from one another.
15th Mar '18 12:14:26 PM thelivingtoad
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* The fact that [[Music/MarcBolan T. Rex]]'s "Get It On" was [[MarketBasedTitle released stateside]] as "Bang a Gong" is often held up as an example of American prudishness, when the truth is almost the exact opposite: there was ''already'' a jazz fusion song entitled "Get It On" on the American charts.

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* The fact that [[Music/MarcBolan T. Rex]]'s "Get It On" was [[MarketBasedTitle released stateside]] as "Bang a Gong" is often held up as an example of American prudishness, when the truth is almost the exact opposite: there was ''already'' a jazz fusion song by the jazz-fusion group Chase entitled "Get It On" on the American charts.
11th Mar '18 7:09:52 PM RoarkTenjouin
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*** While Bruce Kalish has passed the buck to Koichi Sakamoto on multiple occasions as Sakamoto does use similar effects work in series he directs (see: Zyuden Sentai Kyoryuger on top of the above Fourze example), the problem with such blame for many fans is Sakamoto was not the main or stunt director, nor involved in choreographing scenes during Kalishís run. He hadnít done so for Power Rangers since the end of ''[[Series/PowerRangersWildForce Wild Force]]''. And during the bulk of ''Series/PowerRangersOperationOverdrive'''s production (where many cite Kalishplosions being at their absolute worst), Sakamoto was busy in Japan doing second unit directorial work and stunt choreography for ''Series/JukenSentaiGekiranger'' (''Series/PowerRangersJungleFury'''s source material), meaning he was not present or able to perform or direct the original effects work for Overdrive due to the much more demanding production schedule for Sentai. His work on Gekiranger in turn lead to his primary directorial work with Toei later on for Fourze and Kyoryuger, alongside [[Series/KamenRiderDouble Kamen Rider W]], ''Series/KaizokuSentaiGokaiger'', and [[Franchise/UltraSeries the Ultra series over with Tsuburaya productions]]; none of these latter cases featuring egregious overused explosions which a scene then lingers on or repeats footage of; which is one of the more prevalent criticisms of the Kalishplosion, and such was otherwise absent from his work or nowhere near the egregious degree before this period. So generally fans have given Sakamoto the benefit of the doubt over this; as his while his effect-work does use a lot of explosions, his style of fight direction remains in known for itís fast, Dynamic and effective pace while not removing coherence or detracting from the narrative staging of a scene. Most of which is lacking or absent in what fans refer to as Kalishplosions. As the problem with Kalishplosions is not just the explosions, but how they are framed and utilized with respect to a scene and the story.

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*** While Bruce Kalish has passed the buck to Koichi Sakamoto on multiple occasions as Sakamoto does use similar effects work in series he directs (see: Zyuden Sentai Kyoryuger on top of the above Fourze example), the problem with such blame for many fans is Sakamoto was not the main or stunt director, nor involved in choreographing scenes during Kalishís run. He hadnít done so for Power Rangers since the end of ''[[Series/PowerRangersWildForce Wild Force]]''. And during the bulk of ''Series/PowerRangersOperationOverdrive'''s ''Series/PowerRangersOperationOverdrive''[='=]s production (where many cite Kalishplosions being at their absolute worst), Sakamoto was busy in Japan doing second unit directorial work and stunt choreography for ''Series/JukenSentaiGekiranger'' (''Series/PowerRangersJungleFury'''s source material), meaning he was not present or able to perform or direct the original effects work for Overdrive due to the much more demanding production schedule for Sentai. His work on Gekiranger in turn lead to his primary directorial work with Toei later on for Fourze and Kyoryuger, alongside [[Series/KamenRiderDouble Kamen Rider W]], ''Series/KaizokuSentaiGokaiger'', and [[Franchise/UltraSeries the Ultra series over with Tsuburaya productions]]; none of these latter cases featuring egregious overused explosions which a scene then lingers on or repeats footage of; which is one of the more prevalent criticisms of the Kalishplosion, and such was otherwise absent from his work or nowhere near the egregious degree before this period. So generally fans have given Sakamoto the benefit of the doubt over this; as his while his effect-work does use a lot of explosions, his style of fight direction remains in known for itís fast, Dynamic and effective pace while not removing coherence or detracting from the narrative staging of a scene. Most of which is lacking or absent in what fans refer to as Kalishplosions. As the problem with Kalishplosions is not just the explosions, but how they are framed and utilized with respect to a scene and the story.
9th Mar '18 1:50:18 AM jormis29
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* A lot of ''Comicbook/XMen'' fans blame Brett Ratner for every single problem with ''Film/XMenTheLastStand''. Others blame the film's original director, Matthew Vaughn, for screwing the film over by quitting right before the start of filming, and still others hold both men equally to blame. In actual fact, while you could make legitimate criticisms about both Ratner's direction and Vaughn's decision to quit, neither of them were responsible for the storyline. That was about 90% the same as the final film well before Vaughn had signed up, and neither director was permitted to make any serious changes to the screenplay (which, despite him giving "family reasons" for his decision to quit, was apparently a major factor in Vaughn leaving the film).

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* A lot of ''Comicbook/XMen'' fans blame Brett Ratner Creator/BrettRatner for every single problem with ''Film/XMenTheLastStand''. Others blame the film's original director, Matthew Vaughn, Creator/MatthewVaughn, for screwing the film over by quitting right before the start of filming, and still others hold both men equally to blame. In actual fact, while you could make legitimate criticisms about both Ratner's direction and Vaughn's decision to quit, neither of them were responsible for the storyline. That was about 90% the same as the final film well before Vaughn had signed up, and neither director was permitted to make any serious changes to the screenplay (which, despite him giving "family reasons" for his decision to quit, was apparently a major factor in Vaughn leaving the film).
7th Mar '18 4:24:53 PM nombretomado
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* Many Music/{{Genesis}} fans blame Music/PhilCollins for the band's shift away from ProgressiveRock to pop in TheEighties. Collins [[WordOfGod is on record]] as saying that the shift occurred because Mike Rutherford and TonyBanks saw the solo success he was having and [[MoneyDearBoy wanted a piece of that as well]]. Collins said on his (now defunct) official forum that (paraphrasing from memory) "I'd like to see someone [[StubbornMule convince Tony Banks]] to do something he doesn't want to do!".

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* Many Music/{{Genesis}} fans blame Music/PhilCollins for the band's shift away from ProgressiveRock to pop in TheEighties. Collins [[WordOfGod is on record]] as saying that the shift occurred because Mike Rutherford and TonyBanks Music/TonyBanks saw the solo success he was having and [[MoneyDearBoy wanted a piece of that as well]]. Collins said on his (now defunct) official forum that (paraphrasing from memory) "I'd like to see someone [[StubbornMule convince Tony Banks]] to do something he doesn't want to do!".
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