History Main / MisBlamed

15th Jan '17 8:44:54 PM Nicoaln
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* [[LostInTranslation Translation errors]]. This usually happens the ''most'' in things originating in Japan (Anime, Video games) but it happens with other languages too:
** Many works are [[UnintentionalPeriodPiece products of their times and cultures]]. As a result, many of these may sometimes make cultural (popular or not) references that will just leave foreign (or even younger) viewers scratching their head in confusion. As a result, many translators attempt to either change these references to something as generic as possible or [[CulturalTranslation replace them with references that the foreign audience will understand]]. Some of these also are so hard to translate that they are left in.
** Swear words. Many fan translations add swear words or innuendos that weren't there to make it sound more "Adult". Part of this may also be unintentional.
** ValuesDissonance. What is GettingCrapPastTheRadar in one country is actually entirely acceptable, which causes a lot of confusion about when localisers take a show and make it "more kid friendly" - many actually see a show that was written for kids of one society, and attempt to show what's acceptable in the other society.
** Song lyrics - Fans of musicals or movies with songs in them often blame the musical staff for writing songs that make little sense to them - when it's actually the fault of the dubbers, who themselves struggle with trying to make the song make sense and still maintain a rhythm, especially to avoid the dreaded LipLock.
8th Jan '17 7:40:54 PM IndirectActiveTransport
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** This is especially true for 93-94 at which time Vince had actually taken a leave of absence for legal reasons and the company was being run by Pat Patterson.

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** This is especially true for 93-94 at which time Vince had actually taken a leave of absence for legal reasons and the company was being run by Pat Patterson.Wrestling/PatPatterson.



* KevinNash claims he didn't book the Starrcade 1998 finish of tazering Goldberg, nor the FingerpokeOfDoom eight days later. Nash became WCW's booker around this time but he claims he knows this for a fact because he still has his pay stubs from WCW and he got paid more once he started booking. He's offered to show them to prove his point.

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* KevinNash Wrestling/KevinNash claims he didn't book the Starrcade 1998 finish of tazering Goldberg, Wrestling/BillGoldberg, nor the FingerpokeOfDoom eight days later. Nash became WCW's booker around this time but he claims he knows this for a fact because he still has his pay stubs from WCW and he got paid more once he started booking. He's offered to show them to prove his point.
16th Dec '16 8:33:03 AM AlternativeCola
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** And again with ''One More Day'', while the retcon ''was'' Quesada's idea, you'll often get the impression hearing fans talking about it that he was the only person at Marvel to even support the idea and browbeat his co-workers into line like an iron-fisted dictator. In reality, ''numerous'' creative talent at Marvel were pushing for it, including people ''much'' better-regarded in fan eyes than Quesada like Kurt Busiek and Dan Slott. Interestingly enough, this did not include go-to CrisisCrossover guy Creator/BrianMichaelBendis, who reportedly tried to sneak a plot development into his ''Siege'' storyline that would've tacitly undone ''One More Day'' until Quesada caught on.

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** And again with ''One More Day'', while the retcon ''was'' Quesada's idea, you'll often get the impression hearing fans talking about it that he was the only person at Marvel to even support the idea and browbeat his co-workers into line like an iron-fisted dictator. In reality, ''numerous'' creative talent at Marvel were pushing for it, including people ''much'' better-regarded in fan eyes than Quesada like Kurt Busiek and Dan Slott. [[note]]Though Slott's reputation as better regarded from fans has since declined due to his current ''Spider-Man'' [[ComicBook/DanSlottSpiderMan run]] being [[BrokenBase divisive]] among fans[[/note]] Interestingly enough, this did not include go-to CrisisCrossover guy Creator/BrianMichaelBendis, who reportedly tried to sneak a plot development into his ''Siege'' storyline that would've tacitly undone ''One More Day'' until Quesada caught on.
12th Dec '16 3:11:07 PM MarkLungo
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** Bashing Creator/WarnerBros (or Time Warner) for removing music on [=YouTube=], when it was actually Creator/WarnerMusicGroup, a ''completely separate'' record company. And neither Warner Bros. nor Time Warner owns WMG anymore. WMG spun off from Time Warner in 2004; since then, they've been owned by private investors, then a company called Access Industries, not Time Warner. At least the record company still keeps "Warner" in their name.

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** Bashing Creator/WarnerBros (or Time Warner) for removing music on [=YouTube=], Website/YouTube, when it was actually Creator/WarnerMusicGroup, a ''completely separate'' record company. And neither Warner Bros. nor Time Warner owns WMG anymore. WMG spun off from Time Warner in 2004; since then, they've been owned by private investors, then a company called Access Industries, not Time Warner. At least the record company still keeps "Warner" in their name.
12th Dec '16 3:10:18 PM MarkLungo
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* For Creator/LittleKuriboh's ''WebVideo/YuGiOhTheAbridgedSeries'', despite the fact Creator/{{4Kids|Entertainment}} are the main villains of the 3rd season, fans keep on saying that [=4Kids=] are responsible for banning Creator/LittleKuriboh[=/=]CardGamesFTW. However, they were recently suspended by a Japanese company named Nippon Ad Systems -- [=LittleKuriboh=] even stated himself that people should stop blaming [=4Kids=], and [=4Kids=] are still blamed to this day.

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* For Creator/LittleKuriboh's ''WebVideo/YuGiOhTheAbridgedSeries'', despite the fact Creator/{{4Kids|Entertainment}} Creator/FourKidsEntertainment are the main villains of the 3rd season, fans keep on saying that [=4Kids=] are responsible for banning Creator/LittleKuriboh[=/=]CardGamesFTW. However, they were recently suspended by a Japanese company named Nippon Ad Systems -- [=LittleKuriboh=] even stated himself that people should stop blaming [=4Kids=], and [=4Kids=] are still blamed to this day.
12th Dec '16 3:09:24 PM MarkLungo
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*** Well, since Disney owned Miramax, the company responsible for ''Thief''[='=]s Macekre, Roy Disney for a long time was talking about having the Disney animators, many of whom trained with Richard Williams and brought that influence to Aladdin, finish animating Williams' cut of the movie. But then Roy Disney left the company and then died, and Miramax closed and their library appears to have been sold to various other companies, so good luck with that.
** Pointing fingers at ''Nickelodeon'' for stuff done in the ''WesternAnimation/{{Doug}}'' series after it was bought out by ''Disney''.

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*** Well, since Disney owned Miramax, the company responsible for ''Thief''[='=]s Macekre, Roy Disney for a long time was talking about having the Disney animators, many of whom trained with Richard Williams and brought that influence to Aladdin, to''Disney/{{Aladdin}}'', finish animating Williams' cut of the movie. But then Roy Disney left the company and then died, and Miramax closed and their library appears to have been sold to various other companies, so good luck with that.
** Pointing fingers at ''Nickelodeon'' Creator/{{Nickelodeon}} for stuff done in the ''WesternAnimation/{{Doug}}'' series after it was bought out by ''Disney''.Creator/{{Disney}}.



** Bashing ''WarnerBros'' (or ''Time Warner'') for removing music on [=YouTube=], when it was actually ''Warner Music Group'', a ''completely separate'' record company. And neither Warner Bros. nor Time Warner owns WMG anymore. WMG spun off from Time Warner in 2004, and since then, they are owned by ''private investors'', not Time Warner. At least the record company still keeps "Warner" in their name.

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** Bashing ''WarnerBros'' Creator/WarnerBros (or ''Time Warner'') Time Warner) for removing music on [=YouTube=], when it was actually ''Warner Music Group'', Creator/WarnerMusicGroup, a ''completely separate'' record company. And neither Warner Bros. nor Time Warner owns WMG anymore. WMG spun off from Time Warner in 2004, and 2004; since then, they are they've been owned by ''private investors'', private investors, then a company called Access Industries, not Time Warner. At least the record company still keeps "Warner" in their name.



* For Creator/LittleKuriboh's ''WebVideo/YuGiOhTheAbridgedSeries'', despite the fact Creator/{{4Kids|Entertainment}} are the main villains of the 3rd season, fans keep on saying that [=4Kids=] are responsible for banning LittleKuriboh / CardGamesFTW. However, they were recently suspended by a Japanese company named Nippon Ad Systems -- [=LittleKuriboh=] even stated himself that people should stop blaming [=4Kids=], and [=4Kids=] are still blamed to this day.

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* For Creator/LittleKuriboh's ''WebVideo/YuGiOhTheAbridgedSeries'', despite the fact Creator/{{4Kids|Entertainment}} are the main villains of the 3rd season, fans keep on saying that [=4Kids=] are responsible for banning LittleKuriboh / CardGamesFTW.Creator/LittleKuriboh[=/=]CardGamesFTW. However, they were recently suspended by a Japanese company named Nippon Ad Systems -- [=LittleKuriboh=] even stated himself that people should stop blaming [=4Kids=], and [=4Kids=] are still blamed to this day.
6th Dec '16 8:09:20 PM CatcherInTheWry
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* Many people blame [[TheScrappy Scrappy Doo]] for ruining ''Franchise/ScoobyDoo'' (specifically, dumping half the original cast, switching to a TwoShorts format, and the franchise's first clumsy attempts to lose the ScoobyDooHoax) due to the timing of his introduction. Ironically, Scrappy is what probably saved the show from cancellation way back in 1979. And the success of that new incarnation of Scooby Doo is likely what has kept the franchise going on for some 40 years.

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* Many people blame [[TheScrappy Scrappy Doo]] for ruining ''Franchise/ScoobyDoo'' (specifically, dumping half the original cast, switching to a TwoShorts format, and the franchise's first clumsy attempts to lose the ScoobyDooHoax) due to the timing of his introduction. introduction, despite the fact that the conventional mystery format and half the cast were dumped over a year ''after'' his debut. Ironically, Scrappy is what probably saved the show from cancellation way back in 1979. And the success of that new incarnation of Scooby Doo is likely what has kept the franchise going on for some 40 years.
30th Nov '16 9:25:55 PM kokoroanime
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* Many fans of ''WesternAnimation/VeggieTales'' blamed Dreamworks for the new designs introduced in ''WesternAnimation/VeggieTalesInTheHouse''. It was actually Big Idea's discussion to change the characters' designs since the original was based on the old animation software from the 90s.

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* Many fans of ''WesternAnimation/VeggieTales'' blamed Dreamworks for the new designs introduced in ''WesternAnimation/VeggieTalesInTheHouse''. It was actually Big Idea's discussion decision to change the characters' designs since the original was based on the old animation software from the 90s.
30th Nov '16 9:25:11 PM kokoroanime
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* Many fans of ''WesternAnimation/VeggieTales'' blamed Dreamworks for the new designs introduced in ''WesternAnimation/VeggieTalesInTheHouse''. It was actually Big Idea's discussion to change the characters' designs since the original was based on the old animation software from the 90s.
28th Nov '16 12:37:08 PM SkylaNoivern
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* The drag and drop animations site ''Website/{{GoAnimate}}'' removed several text-to-speech voices (from sites such as Ivona, Oddcast and [=VoiceForge=]) in early 2016. Most of the non-ironic fanbase, who were already mad at site founder Alvin Hung for trying to turn the site into a business-only site and removing most social features, [[FelonyMisdemeanor took this as a second attack against them]] and proceeded to blame Alvin Hung for being "greedy". Truth is, however, most of the voices had expired licenses (and on top of that, mostly outdated) and Hung decided not to renew them.
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