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14th Nov '17 1:43:17 AM Anicomicgeek
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* When a VocalMinority of Franchise/{{Batman}} fans decried ''Film/TheDarkKnightRises'' as a complete disappointment, one of the most common allegations against the film was that the TwistEnding subjected ComicBook/{{Bane}} to embarrassing VillainDecay by turning him into a glorified minion of [[spoiler: Thalia al-Ghul]], the real leader of the League of Shadows. While one could make a pretty good case for the twist being unnecessary and distracting, actually watching the film makes it pretty clear that the complaint about Bane being a "minion" simply isn't true. Rather, it's made clear that Bane and [[spoiler:Thalia]] have known each other for years, that [[TrueCompanions they're utterly devoted to each other]], and that they owe each other their lives--due to Bane [[HeroicSacrifice allowing himself to be disfigured]] to allow [[spoiler: Thalia to escape from prison]], and [[spoiler: Thalia]] returning to free him from prison. Even if only one of them can officially lead the League of Shadows, there's genuine love and friendship between them, and Bane is far more than just a servant.

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* When a VocalMinority of Franchise/{{Batman}} fans decried ''Film/TheDarkKnightRises'' as a complete disappointment, one of the most common allegations against the film was that the TwistEnding subjected ComicBook/{{Bane}} to embarrassing VillainDecay by turning him into a glorified minion of [[spoiler: Thalia Talia al-Ghul]], the real leader of the League of Shadows. While one could make a pretty good case for the twist being unnecessary and distracting, actually watching the film makes it pretty clear that the complaint about Bane being a "minion" simply isn't true. Rather, it's made clear that Bane and [[spoiler:Thalia]] have known each other for years, that [[TrueCompanions they're utterly devoted to each other]], and that they owe each other their lives--due to Bane [[HeroicSacrifice allowing himself to be disfigured]] to allow [[spoiler: Thalia Talia to escape from prison]], and [[spoiler: Thalia]] returning to free him from prison. Even if only one of them can officially lead the League of Shadows, there's genuine love and friendship between them, and Bane is far more than just a servant.
7th Nov '17 12:46:36 AM UmbrellasWereAwesome
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** Many fans and critics blamed the mediocre response to ''Film/IronMan2'' on director Creator/JonFavreau. In reality, the film saw copious amounts of ExecutiveMeddling from Marvel Studios, especially with regard to the elements meant to act as set-up for ''Film/{{The Avengers|2012}}''. Favreau had such a bad experience working on the film that he refused to return as the director for ''Film/IronMan3''.

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** Many fans and critics blamed the mediocre response to ''Film/IronMan2'' on director Creator/JonFavreau. In reality, the film saw copious amounts of ExecutiveMeddling from Marvel Studios, Creator/MarvelStudios, especially with regard to the elements meant to act as set-up for ''Film/{{The Avengers|2012}}''. Favreau had such a bad experience working on the film that he refused to return as the director for ''Film/IronMan3''.



** Ironically enough, it was eventually revealed that much of the meddling was courtesy not so much of Marvel Studios itself, but of parent company Marvel Entertainment. In fact, Marvel Studios's own president got so sick of the meddling that he eventually went and convinced Disney (Marvel Entertainment's parent company) to completely remove Marvel Studios from Marvel Entertainment's control.

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** Ironically enough, it was eventually revealed to fans that much of the meddling was courtesy not so much of Marvel Studios itself, but of parent company Marvel Entertainment. In fact, Marvel Studios's own president got so sick of the meddling that he eventually went and convinced Disney (Marvel Entertainment's parent company) to completely remove Marvel Studios from Marvel Entertainment's control.
7th Nov '17 12:30:54 AM UmbrellasWereAwesome
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* Many fans and critics blamed the mediocre response to ''Film/IronMan2'' on director Creator/JonFavreau. In reality, the film saw copious amounts of ExecutiveMeddling from Marvel Studios, especially with regard to the elements meant to act as set-up for ''Film/{{The Avengers|2012}}''. Favreau had such a bad experience working on the film that he refused to return as the director for ''Film/IronMan3''.

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Many fans and critics blamed the mediocre response to ''Film/IronMan2'' on director Creator/JonFavreau. In reality, the film saw copious amounts of ExecutiveMeddling from Marvel Studios, especially with regard to the elements meant to act as set-up for ''Film/{{The Avengers|2012}}''. Favreau had such a bad experience working on the film that he refused to return as the director for ''Film/IronMan3''.''Film/IronMan3''.
** Fans of [[spoiler:Agent Coulson]] were quick to call for the head of Creator/JossWhedon, who is after all known for killing fan-favorites, after ''Film/{{The Avengers|2012}}'' came out. [[http://www.sfx.co.uk/2012/09/15/avengers-assemble-clark-gregg-and-titus-welliver-agents-of-shield-interviewed/ Apparently, though]], this was part of the overall MCU masterplan, and Whedon didn't get much say in it.
** Similarly, when ''Film/AvengersAgeOfUltron'' came out, detractors accused Whedon of deliberately ignoring events from previous movies (particularly ''Film/CaptainAmericaTheWinterSoldier''.) In reality, Whedon had been required to write the script for ''Age'' in isolation, to prevent the possibility of his movie spoiling the major twists of the other movies.
** Ironically enough, it was eventually revealed that much of the meddling was courtesy not so much of Marvel Studios itself, but of parent company Marvel Entertainment. In fact, Marvel Studios's own president got so sick of the meddling that he eventually went and convinced Disney (Marvel Entertainment's parent company) to completely remove Marvel Studios from Marvel Entertainment's control.



* Fans of [[spoiler:Agent Coulson]] were quick to call for the head of Creator/JossWhedon, who is after all known for killing fan-favorites, after ''Film/{{The Avengers|2012}}'' came out. [[http://www.sfx.co.uk/2012/09/15/avengers-assemble-clark-gregg-and-titus-welliver-agents-of-shield-interviewed/ Apparently, though]], this was part of the overall Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse masterplan, and Whedon didn't get much say in it.
*** Similarly, when ''Film/AvengersAgeOfUltron'' came out, detractors accused Whedon of deliberately ignoring events from previous movies (particularly ''Film/CaptainAmericaTheWinterSoldier''.) In reality, Whedon had been required to write the script for ''Age'' in isolation, to prevent the possibility of his movie spoiling the major twists of the other movies.
8th Oct '17 5:41:46 AM lillolillo
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* Blaming a lot of the really crappy comics during UsefulNotes/{{the Silver Age|OfComicBooks}} on UsefulNotes/TheComicsCode ignores the fact that most of these stories were just really bad on their own without any censorship.
** Speaking of UsefulNotes/{{the Silver Age|OfComicBooks}}, a lot of people blame Fredric Wertham solely for the creation of the Comics Code, while he is only indirectly responsible for it. He published ''Seduction of the Innocent'' which led to the [[NewMediaAreEvil social panic]], which led to the Code for sure. However, he was actually relatively moderate on the issue -- he simply wanted comics to have a rating system, not for any remotely objectionable content to be banned.
*** The role of ''Seduction of the Innocent'' is also often exaggerated. The book came out on 19 April 1954, a mere two days before the Senate Subcommittee hearings on juvenile delinquency (at which Wertham and William Gaines famously testified) began; this led to the adoption of the Comics Code in October of the same year. The crusade against comic-books with alarmist theories about their likely effect on readers had actually started as early as 1940, and it was only in 1948 that Wertham's theories about the subject first came to public notice. Anti-comicbook hysteria was already in full swing before ''Seduction of the Innocent'' (public burnings of comic-books started no later than 1948), so if Wertham was one of those who caused it, it was actually through his earlier writings and public statements.
** On the subject of the Silver Age, many detractors of modern comics express distaste with formerly goofy, harmless villains now killing people. Even a cursory glance through some Silver Age comics reveals that these villains were ''always'' fond of casual murder; the only difference is that now they're occasionally successful at it.

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* Blaming a lot of the really crappy comics during UsefulNotes/{{the Silver Age|OfComicBooks}} on UsefulNotes/TheComicsCode ignores the fact that most of these stories were just really bad on their own without any censorship.
** Speaking of UsefulNotes/{{the Silver Age|OfComicBooks}}, a
A lot of people blame Fredric Wertham solely for the creation of the Comics Code, UsefulNotes/TheComicsCode, while he is only indirectly responsible for it. He published ''Seduction of the Innocent'' which led to the [[NewMediaAreEvil social panic]], which led to the Code for sure. However, he was actually relatively moderate on the issue -- he simply wanted comics to have a rating system, not for any remotely objectionable content to be banned.
*** * The role of ''Seduction of the Innocent'' is also often exaggerated. The book came out on 19 April 1954, a mere two days before the Senate Subcommittee hearings on juvenile delinquency (at which Wertham and William Gaines famously testified) began; this led to the adoption of the Comics Code in October of the same year. The crusade against comic-books with alarmist theories about their likely effect on readers had actually started as early as 1940, and it was only in 1948 that Wertham's theories about the subject first came to public notice. Anti-comicbook hysteria was already in full swing before ''Seduction of the Innocent'' (public burnings of comic-books started no later than 1948), so if Wertham was one of those who caused it, it was actually through his earlier writings and public statements.
** On the subject of the Silver Age, many detractors of modern comics express distaste with formerly goofy, harmless villains now killing people. Even a cursory glance through some Silver Age comics reveals that these villains were ''always'' fond of casual murder; the only difference is that now they're occasionally successful at it.
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** To a lesser extent, some people sure love pinning everything DC Comics is doing "wrong" on either Creator/DanDiDio, Creator/GeoffJohns, or Creator/GrantMorrison.
** Speaking of One More Day, JMS, the writer, has been both misblamed and Mis-Credited in its case. He was first blamed for creating the story until it was known Quesada ordered it -- probably wouldn't have happened had he stuck to his guns and refused to have his name on it. When that came out, he was looked on as a hero for leaving the book and standing up against bad ExecutiveMeddling -- when in reality he supported the retcon but walked out because Quesada wouldn't let him take it even further and completely rewrite the Marvel Universe's entire history.
** And again with ''One More Day'', while the retcon ''was'' Quesada's idea, you'll often get the impression hearing fans talking about it that he was the only person at Marvel to even support the idea and browbeat his co-workers into line like an iron-fisted dictator. In reality, ''numerous'' creative talent at Marvel were pushing for it, including people ''much'' better-regarded in fan eyes than Quesada like Kurt Busiek and Dan Slott.[[note]]Though Slott's reputation as better regarded from fans has since declined due to his current ''Spider-Man'' [[ComicBook/DanSlottSpiderMan run]] being [[BrokenBase divisive]] among fans[[/note]] Interestingly enough, this did not include go-to CrisisCrossover guy Creator/BrianMichaelBendis, who reportedly tried to sneak a plot development into his ''Siege'' storyline that would've tacitly undone ''One More Day'' until Quesada caught on.

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** * To a lesser extent, some people sure love pinning everything DC Comics is doing "wrong" on either Creator/DanDiDio, Creator/GeoffJohns, or Creator/GrantMorrison.
** * Speaking of One More Day, JMS, the writer, has been both misblamed and Mis-Credited in its case. He was first blamed for creating the story until it was known Quesada ordered it -- probably wouldn't have happened had he stuck to his guns and refused to have his name on it. When that came out, he was looked on as a hero for leaving the book and standing up against bad ExecutiveMeddling -- when in reality he supported the retcon but walked out because Quesada wouldn't let him take it even further and completely rewrite the Marvel Universe's entire history.
** * And again with ''One More Day'', while the retcon ''was'' Quesada's idea, you'll often get the impression hearing fans talking about it that he was the only person at Marvel to even support the idea and browbeat his co-workers into line like an iron-fisted dictator. In reality, ''numerous'' creative talent at Marvel were pushing for it, including people ''much'' better-regarded in fan eyes than Quesada like Kurt Busiek and Dan Slott.[[note]]Though Slott's reputation as better regarded from fans has since declined due to his current ''Spider-Man'' [[ComicBook/DanSlottSpiderMan run]] being [[BrokenBase divisive]] among fans[[/note]] Interestingly enough, this did not include go-to CrisisCrossover guy Creator/BrianMichaelBendis, who reportedly tried to sneak a plot development into his ''Siege'' storyline that would've tacitly undone ''One More Day'' until Quesada caught on.



* Whenever writers touch upon Jason Todd's death in ''ComicBook/ADeathInTheFamily'' in other stories, his death is usually blamed on Jason himself being implusive--which is not even close to what happened. While Jason was impulsive and did have a temper, he was lured into a trap by Sheila Haywood, who he found out was his biological mother.

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* Whenever writers touch upon [[ComicBook/{{Robin}} Jason Todd's Todd]]'s death in ''ComicBook/ADeathInTheFamily'' in other stories, his death is usually blamed on Jason himself being implusive--which is not even close to what happened. While Jason was impulsive and did have a temper, he was lured into a trap by Sheila Haywood, who he found out was his biological mother.



* A number of Dark Age DC fans blame the cancellation of ''ComicBook/{{Supergirl}}'''s fourth self-named book on Creator/DanDidio and alleged old-school fans and writers who supposedly hated the Earth Angel Supergirl and wanted her out of the way of Kara Zor-El. In reality the book was always in hot water due to perpetually dismal sales, and the decision to cancel it was taken long before Kara was reintroduced because of her less convoluted backstory (and not because of old-school fans).



* There's a trend among professional film critics to regard the UsefulNotes/NewHollywood era [[NostalgiaFilter as the last true Golden Age of films]]. This was a period where ambitious young film directors, using the new freedom of the R rating, created DarkerAndEdgier films that were critically acclaimed box office hits. Many of these critics (perhaps the most prominent was ''Newsweek'' critic David Ansen) misblame Creator/StevenSpielberg for making ''Film/{{Jaws}}'' and especially Creator/GeorgeLucas for making ''[[Film/ANewHope Star Wars]]'', because this supposedly "ruined" the New Hollywood era, and replaced it with the "inferior" [[UsefulNotes/TheBlockbusterAgeOfHollywood Blockbuster Age of Hollywood]].

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* There's a trend among professional film critics to regard the UsefulNotes/NewHollywood era [[NostalgiaFilter as the last true Golden Age of films]].films. This was a period where ambitious young film directors, using the new freedom of the R rating, created DarkerAndEdgier films that were critically acclaimed box office hits. Many of these critics (perhaps the most prominent was ''Newsweek'' critic David Ansen) misblame Creator/StevenSpielberg for making ''Film/{{Jaws}}'' and especially Creator/GeorgeLucas for making ''[[Film/ANewHope Star Wars]]'', because this supposedly "ruined" the New Hollywood era, and replaced it with the "inferior" [[UsefulNotes/TheBlockbusterAgeOfHollywood Blockbuster Age of Hollywood]].
4th Oct '17 9:22:52 PM Doug86
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* A frequent complaint from fans is that DC mistreats the [[ComicBook/JusticeLeagueInternational JLI]], and that in-universe, that period in Justice League history is unfairly considered a DorkAge. In reality, the perception of the JLI as a blotch on the League's history dates back to the actual series itself, where writers Keith Giffen and J.M. [=DeMatteis=] made constant [[SelfDeprecation Self-Deprecating]] jokes about how the team was poorly regarded by other superheroes. The later reunion series, ''Formerly Known as the Justice League'', even had Franchise/{{Batman}} and [[{{Shazam}} Captain Marvel]] looking back on their time with the JLI as an OldShame.

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* A frequent complaint from fans is that DC mistreats the [[ComicBook/JusticeLeagueInternational JLI]], and that in-universe, that period in Justice League history is unfairly considered a DorkAge. In reality, the perception of the JLI as a blotch on the League's history dates back to the actual series itself, where writers Keith Giffen and J.M. [=DeMatteis=] made constant [[SelfDeprecation Self-Deprecating]] jokes about how the team was poorly regarded by other superheroes. The later reunion series, ''Formerly Known as the Justice League'', even had Franchise/{{Batman}} and [[{{Shazam}} [[ComicBook/{{Shazam}} Captain Marvel]] looking back on their time with the JLI as an OldShame.
27th Sep '17 10:02:44 AM Bluemargay
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* While Dragon Ball Evolution is worthy of much of its criticism, one thing that is sometimes brought up is the casting of a white guy as Goku. This is despite the fact that Goku is an alien and not Japanese. People tend to assume anime=Japanese.
27th Sep '17 7:54:09 AM TheMightyHeptagon
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* When a VocalMinority of Franchise/{{Batman}} fans decried ''Film/TheDarkKnightRises'' as a complete disappointment, one of the most common allegations against the film was that the TwistEnding subjected Comic/{{Bane}} to embarrassing VillainDecay by turning him into a glorified minion of [[spoiler: Thalia al-Ghul]], the real leader of the League of Shadows. While one could make a pretty good case for the twist being unnecessary and distracting, actually watching the film makes it pretty clear that the complaint about Bane being a "minion" simply isn't true. Rather, it's made clear that Bane and [[spoiler:Thalia]] have known each other for years, that [[TrueCompanions they're utterly devoted to each other]], and that they owe each other their lives--due to Bane [[HeroicSacrifice allowing himself to be disfigured]] to allow [[spoiler: Thalia to escape from prison]], and [[spoiler: Thalia]] returning to free Bane from prison. Even if only one of them can officially lead the League of Shadows, there's genuine love and friendship between them, and Bane is far more than just a servant.

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* When a VocalMinority of Franchise/{{Batman}} fans decried ''Film/TheDarkKnightRises'' as a complete disappointment, one of the most common allegations against the film was that the TwistEnding subjected Comic/{{Bane}} ComicBook/{{Bane}} to embarrassing VillainDecay by turning him into a glorified minion of [[spoiler: Thalia al-Ghul]], the real leader of the League of Shadows. While one could make a pretty good case for the twist being unnecessary and distracting, actually watching the film makes it pretty clear that the complaint about Bane being a "minion" simply isn't true. Rather, it's made clear that Bane and [[spoiler:Thalia]] have known each other for years, that [[TrueCompanions they're utterly devoted to each other]], and that they owe each other their lives--due to Bane [[HeroicSacrifice allowing himself to be disfigured]] to allow [[spoiler: Thalia to escape from prison]], and [[spoiler: Thalia]] returning to free Bane him from prison. Even if only one of them can officially lead the League of Shadows, there's genuine love and friendship between them, and Bane is far more than just a servant.
27th Sep '17 7:52:25 AM TheMightyHeptagon
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* When a VocalMinority of Franchise/{{Batman}} fans decried ''Film/TheDarkKnightRises'' as a complete disappointment, one of the most common allegations against the film was that the TwistEnding subjected Comic/{{Bane}} to embarrassing VillainDecay by turning him into a glorified minion of [[spoiler: Thalia al-Ghul]], the real leader of the League of Shadows. While one could make a pretty good case for the twist being unnecessary and distracting, actually watching the film makes it pretty clear that the complaint about Bane being a "minion" simply isn't true. Rather, it's made clear that Bane and [[spoiler:Thalia]] have known each other for years, that [[TrueCompanions they're utterly devoted to each other]], and that they owe each other their lives--due to Bane [[HeroicSacrifice allowing himself to be disfigured]] to allow [[spoiler: Thalia to escape from prison]], and [[spoiler: Thalia]] returning to free Bane from prison. Even if only one of them can officially lead the League of Shadows, there's genuine love and friendship between them, and Bane is far more than just a servant.
20th Sep '17 7:48:35 PM Everdream
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* ''Literature/TheChroniclesOfNarnia:'' The controversial and allegedly sexist ending of the last book, in which [[spoiler: Susan falls to enter Narnia's Heaven with her family because she doesn't believe in Narnia anymore and only cares about stereotypical girl things]] was actually a SequelHook for a eighth book that was unfortunately never made. It would have resolved this issue, as [[spoiler: Susan was intended to come to terms with her sibling's deaths, "find Narnia" again, and eventually make her way to Heaven to be with them.]]

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* ''Literature/TheChroniclesOfNarnia:'' The controversial and allegedly sexist ending of the last book, in which [[spoiler: Susan falls to doesn't enter Narnia's Heaven with her family family]] because she doesn't believe in Narnia anymore and only cares about stereotypical girl things]] stereotypically feminine things such as make-up), was actually a SequelHook for a eighth book that was unfortunately was never made. It would have resolved this issue, as [[spoiler: Susan was intended to come to terms with the loss of her sibling's deaths, siblings, "find Narnia" Narnia in her own time" again, and eventually make her way to Heaven to be with them.]]
20th Sep '17 11:56:25 AM Mineburst
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* After the infamous ''WesternAnimation/PickleandPeanut'' was renewed for a second season, fans got angry at it because of the cancellation of ''WesternAnimation/WanderOverYonder''. The truth is that ''Pickle and Peanut'' itself is ignored by the network, being placed in a year-long hiatus after its first season, and like [[RandyCunninghamNinthGradeNinja several]] [[WanderOverYonder other]] [[The7D Disney XD]] [[PennZeroPartTimeHero cartoons]] it probably won't last beyond Season 2.

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* After the infamous ''WesternAnimation/PickleandPeanut'' ''WesternAnimation/PickleAndPeanut'' was renewed for a second season, fans got angry at it because of the cancellation of ''WesternAnimation/WanderOverYonder''. The truth is that ''Pickle and Peanut'' itself is ignored by the network, being placed in a year-long hiatus after its first season, and like [[RandyCunninghamNinthGradeNinja several]] [[WanderOverYonder other]] [[The7D Disney XD]] [[PennZeroPartTimeHero cartoons]] it probably won't last beyond Season 2.
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