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12th Aug '17 10:47:08 AM nombretomado
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*** Mark Harris replaced Sakamoto as stunt director at the beginning of [[PowerRangersNinjaStorm Power Rangers Ninja Storm]]. As what fans refer to as Kalishplosions began to appear prominently in [[PowerRangersDinoThunder Power Rangers Dino Thunder]], and such appeared in his later work, Itís likely he is the true culprit in this argument.

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*** Mark Harris replaced Sakamoto as stunt director at the beginning of [[PowerRangersNinjaStorm Power Rangers Ninja Storm]]. ''Series/PowerRangersNinjaStorm''. As what fans refer to as Kalishplosions began to appear prominently in [[PowerRangersDinoThunder Power Rangers Dino Thunder]], ''Series/PowerRangersDinoThunder'', and such appeared in his later work, Itís likely he is the true culprit in this argument.
31st Jul '17 2:09:36 PM jmparker78
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*** If anything, the blame goes back even further, to their portrayal in ''Film/StarTrekIIITheSearchForSpock'', which took the newer, more animalistic look, viking-like armor and dark ship interiors from ''Film/StarTrekTheMotionPicture'' and ran with it, having the Klingons growl at each other and behave as pirates, both in attitude and action. So, more so than Hurley, Harve Bennett deserves blame for starting the trend.
29th Jul '17 8:13:00 AM ElSquibbonator
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** The same can be said about Creator/CartoonNetwork and ''WesternAnimation/TeenTitansGo''.

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** The same can be said about Creator/CartoonNetwork and ''WesternAnimation/TeenTitansGo''. In particular, ''Teen Titans Go'' is often blamed for causing ''WesternAnimation/AdventureTime'' and ''WesternAnimation/RegularShow'' to end, even though both of those series were deliberately ended by their creators.
28th Jul '17 8:20:30 AM nicktoonhero
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* Despite popular belief, ''WesternAnimation/TheEmojiMovie'' was NOT responsible for Sony's nixing of Gennedy Tartakovsky's ''Popeye'' movie. The two movies were developed in two different time frames, separated by the fateful Sony hack and the subsequent shuffling of executive positions, making it more of a case of unfortunate timing more than anything.
26th Jul '17 8:28:09 AM StFan
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** Before the ''Film/{{Godzilla 1998}}'' film, a [[Film/{{Godzilla 1994}} 1994 Godzilla film]] was planned:The film was originally going to have Godzilla fight against a giant monster named the Gryphon and have special effects done by none other than Creator/StanWinston Studios. A misconception that has been circulating was that the reason the Gryphon never manifested was because Toho veto'd the idea, and proposed Mothra and King Ghidorah instead. Both were turned down because they were extremely expensive. The real reason was actually worse.
*** The real season is that Sonyís [[ExecutiveMeddling executives disagreed about the budget]] and caused the would be director Jan De Bont to drop out. There were several attempts to re-negotiate, and get a director, Tri-Star brought in Roland Emmerich (the fi first director to turn down directing Godzilla 1994 because he explicitly stated that he didn't like Godzilla.) and Dean Devlin. The condition they agreed to direct was that they would rewrite the entire thing however they wanted, and we [[InNameOnly all know how that went.]] The even sadder irony is that the budget went way over the budget Sony didnít agree on, meaning that the whole screw up was really meaningless.

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** Before the ''Film/{{Godzilla 1998}}'' ''Film/Godzilla1998'' film, a [[Film/{{Godzilla 1994}} 1994 Godzilla film]] ''Script/{{Godzilla|1994}}'' film was planned:The planned. The film was originally going to have Godzilla fight against a giant monster named the Gryphon and have special effects done by none other than Creator/StanWinston Studios. A misconception that has been circulating was that the reason the Gryphon never manifested was because Toho veto'd vetoed the idea, and proposed Mothra and King Ghidorah instead. Both were turned down because they were extremely expensive. The real reason was actually worse.
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The real season is that Sonyís Sony's [[ExecutiveMeddling executives disagreed about the budget]] and caused the would be director Jan De Bont to drop out. There were several attempts to re-negotiate, and get a director, Tri-Star brought in Roland Emmerich (the fi first director to turn down directing Godzilla ''Godzilla'' 1994 because he explicitly stated that he didn't like Godzilla.) and Dean Devlin. The condition they agreed to direct was that they would rewrite the entire thing however they wanted, and we [[InNameOnly all know how that went.]] The even sadder irony is that the budget went way over the budget Sony didnít didn't agree on, meaning that the whole screw up screw-up was really meaningless.
meaningless.
23rd Jul '17 3:13:35 AM AlternativeCola
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* Man of Action, the creators of ''WesternAnimation/{{Ben 10}}'' have been blamed for the [[BrokenBase fan-divided]] ''WesternAnimation/Ben10Omniverse''. However, they left the franchise after ''[[WesternAnimation/Ben10UltimateAlien Ultimate Alien]]'' to work on ''WesternAnimation/UltimateSpiderMan'', though they still receive a "created by" credit and in actual fact, art director Derrick Wyatt, executive producer Tramm Wigzell, supervising producer Matt Youngberg and now ex-Cartoon Network, Boomerang and Toonami CEO Stuart Snyder are actually responsible for the stylistic change from the DarkerAndEdgier tone of ''[[WesternAnimation/Ben10AlienForce Alien Force]]/Ultimate Alien'' to the DenserAndWackier tone of ''Omniverse''. However, it's a subversion for both Wyatt and Youngberg since ExecutiveMeddling was responsible for the tone and was done after the less-than-expected ratings of ''Ultimate Alien'', though Wyatt's negative comments of ''Alien Force'' and ''Ultimate Alien'' didn't help at all, hence he's the go-to ScrapegoatCreator for fans who were pissed off with ''Omniverse''.

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* Man of Action, the creators of ''WesternAnimation/{{Ben 10}}'' have been blamed for the [[BrokenBase fan-divided]] ''WesternAnimation/Ben10Omniverse''. However, they left the franchise after ''[[WesternAnimation/Ben10UltimateAlien Ultimate Alien]]'' to work on ''WesternAnimation/UltimateSpiderMan'', though they still receive a "created by" credit and in actual fact, art director Derrick Wyatt, executive producer Tramm Wigzell, supervising producer Matt Youngberg and now ex-Cartoon Network, Boomerang and Toonami CEO Stuart Snyder are actually responsible for the stylistic change from the DarkerAndEdgier tone of ''[[WesternAnimation/Ben10AlienForce Alien Force]]/Ultimate Alien'' to the DenserAndWackier tone of ''Omniverse''. However, it's a subversion for both Wyatt and Youngberg since ExecutiveMeddling was responsible for the tone and was done after the less-than-expected ratings of ''Ultimate Alien'', though Wyatt's negative comments of about ''Alien Force'' and ''Ultimate Alien'' didn't help at all, hence he's the go-to ScrapegoatCreator ScapegoatCreator for fans who were pissed off with ''Omniverse''.



** The same can be said about Creator/{{CartoonNetwork}} and ''WesternAnimation/TeenTitansGo''.

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** The same can be said about Creator/{{CartoonNetwork}} Creator/CartoonNetwork and ''WesternAnimation/TeenTitansGo''.
18th Jul '17 6:54:23 PM MichaelKatsuro
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* Issue #12 of ComicBook/{{Saga}} wasn't for sale on the iOS version of digital comics storefront Comixology due to two panels depicting gay oral sex on Prince Robot IV's screen. People originally pinned this on Apple forbidding it, but it turned out that Comixology forbid it based on their interpretation of the Apple rules. Apple then said that they never banned it, and the comic was reinstated.

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* Issue #12 of ComicBook/{{Saga}} ''ComicBook/{{Saga}}'' wasn't for sale on the iOS version of digital comics storefront Comixology due to two panels depicting gay oral sex on Prince Robot IV's screen. People originally pinned this on Apple forbidding it, but it turned out that Comixology forbid it based on their interpretation of the Apple rules. Apple then said that they never banned it, and the comic was reinstated.



** In the same vein, a common criticism of the 2011 sequel, ''Film/SherlockHolmesAGameOfShadows'', is that it "dumbed down" Sherlock Holmes by largely replacing the mystery and complex deductions with elaborate fight scenes and large-scale action set pieces -- essentially turning Holmes into "Victorian Film/JamesBond". While it's understandable that people would like to see mystery in a movie about Sherlock Holmes, it should be noted that ''A Game of Shadows'' was based (albeit very loosely) on elements of the classic Doyle stories "The Final Problem" and "The Adventure of the Empty House" -- both of which were essentially CloakAndDagger adventure stories, with no central mystery at all.
*** Hell, if you've read either of those stories, you'll notice that the screenwriters actually took pains to ''add'' elements of mystery where there weren't any in the source material. ''A Game of Shadows'' has [[TheReveal the climactic reveal]] about the true nature of Moriarty's plans and [[spoiler: how Holmes managed to figure them out midway through the movie]], while "The Final Problem" just has a long SternChase across Europe.

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** In the same vein, a common criticism of the 2011 sequel, ''Film/SherlockHolmesAGameOfShadows'', is that it "dumbed down" Sherlock Holmes by largely replacing the mystery and complex deductions with elaborate fight scenes and large-scale action set pieces -- essentially turning Holmes into "Victorian Film/JamesBond". While it's understandable that people would like to see mystery in a movie about Sherlock Holmes, it should be noted that ''A Game of Shadows'' was based (albeit very loosely) on elements of the classic Doyle stories "The Final Problem" and "The Adventure of the Empty House" -- both of which were essentially CloakAndDagger adventure stories, with no central mystery at all.
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all. Hell, if you've read either of those stories, you'll notice that the screenwriters actually took pains to ''add'' elements of mystery where there weren't any in the source material. ''A Game of Shadows'' has [[TheReveal the climactic reveal]] about the true nature of Moriarty's plans and [[spoiler: how Holmes managed to figure them out midway through the movie]], while "The Final Problem" just has a long SternChase across Europe.
18th Jul '17 6:53:33 PM MichaelKatsuro
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* Issue #12 wasn't for sale on the iOS version of digital comics storefront Comixology due to two panels depicting gay oral sex on Prince Robot IV's screen. People originally pinned this on Apple forbidding it, but it turned out that Comixology forbid it based on their interpretation of the Apple rules. Apple then said that they never banned it, and the comic was reinstated.

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* Issue #12 of ComicBook/{{Saga}} wasn't for sale on the iOS version of digital comics storefront Comixology due to two panels depicting gay oral sex on Prince Robot IV's screen. People originally pinned this on Apple forbidding it, but it turned out that Comixology forbid it based on their interpretation of the Apple rules. Apple then said that they never banned it, and the comic was reinstated.
18th Jul '17 6:51:48 PM MichaelKatsuro
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* As with Spider-Man: One More Day, Straczynski gets let off the hook for Sins Past and the editorial staff took the blame. However it's difficult to ignore the fact that the actual premise (Gwen Stacy having not one, but TWO off-panel pregnancies before she died) was entirely Straczynski's idea. In reality what the editors did was damage control more than anything else, because Straczynski originally wanted them to be Peter's children, and not Norman Osborn's!

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* As with Spider-Man: One More Day, Straczynski gets let off the hook for Sins Past and the editorial staff took the blame. However it's difficult to ignore the fact that the actual premise (Gwen Stacy having not one, but TWO off-panel pregnancies before she died) was entirely Straczynski's idea. In reality what Though the editors did put the kibosh on Straczynski's original idea, which was damage control more than anything else, because Straczynski originally wanted them for the kids to be Peter's children, and not Norman Osborn's!
15th Jul '17 8:20:16 PM ElSquibbonator
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** Similarly, many, ''many'' people automatically blame ''WesternAnimation/TeenTitansGo'' for ''WesternAnimation/AdventureTime'' and ''WesternAnimation/RegularShow'' ending their runs in 2017 and 2018 respectively. While it is certainly true that ''Teen Titans Go'' is AdoredByTheNetwork, and has taken over time slots once used by other shows, it is not directly responsible for those shows ending. Those decisions were made by the series' creators themselves, as they were already coming to the end of their storylines.



** Similarly, many, ''many'' people automatically blame ''WesternAnimation/TeenTitansGo'' for ''WesternAnimation/AdventureTime'' and ''WesternAnimation/RegularShow'' ending their runs in 2017 and 2018 respectively. While it is certainly true that ''Teen Titans Go'' is AdoredByTheNetwork, and has taken over slots once used by other shows, it is not directly responsible for them ending. Those decisions were made by the series' creators themselves, as they were already coming to the end of their storylines.
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