History Main / MirroringFactions

* In the ''Fanfic/{{Uplifted}}'' series, it is an overall theme of the stories. To the average grunt, World War II wasn't that different irregardless of who you fought for, as seen during the Invasion of Malta with Rommel's troops. Seen particularly in Skorzeny and Churchill.

** The Iron Hands despise the ordinary citizes of the Imperium as much as any Chaos follower, considering them weak cowards barely worthy of being alive who must be ruled by the strongest. And their obsession to overcome what they call the Weakness of the Flesh -which includes basically everything that makes them still human- through the Machine God´s mechanical enhancements is similar to the Chaos followers´ ambition of trascending mortality by being blessed again and again by the Dark Gods until they have lost any semblance with their former selves.

* ''TabletopGame/TheWitcherGameOfImagination'': Humans and elves. Both races are almost enirely made out of jerks, bastards and monsters. Both treat every other race with a smug smile of superiority, almost always undeserved. First thing both did after arrival to the Continent? Starting a war with the local population. Elves like to use every opportunity to point out how barbaric humans are, glossing over their own equally horrific deeds. Meanwhile, humanity is over-jealous of many elven traits, be it longevity, beauty, or magic powers. Which leads to constant conflicts, pogroms and wars.

* In ''Webcomic/{{Drowtales}}'', despite being a SuperiorSpecies the drow in particular are not actually that different from the goblin races. Just take a look at how the drow consider the goblin races. Now take a closer look at the drow. Ironic that the ones who consider halmes akin to locusts almost destroyed their own planet for mana-based life a millenia ago, isn't it?
* Webcomic/WaywardSons two starships crash on Bronze Age Earth, the Tytan carrying hundreds of thousands of convicts and rebels, and the Ulympea, who vow to protect the primitive natives and recapture the Tytans. The parallels between them, and especially leaders Kronos & Suras, are constantly underlined.

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''Cut to magister Boisrond testing the new weapons of mass destruction.''

-->'''Nia''': I don't understand... if they're like us, then they wouldn't have any reason to hate us, would they?
* In the ''{{Fanfic/Uplifted}}'' series, it is an overall theme of the stories. To the average grunt, World War II wasn't that different irregardless of who you fought for, as seen during the Invasion of Malta with Rommel's troops. Seen particularly in Skorzeny and Churchill.

* ''Website/TheHardTimes'': "[[https://thehardtimes.net/culture/united-love-beer-punks-jocks-finally-make-peace/ United by Love of Beer, Punks and Jocks Finally Make Peace]]". In the article, longstanding arch-enemies punks and jocks hold a peace conference after they realize they both like beer (and trucker hats, and went to the same schools, and were basically the same exact person just in different clothes).

Two organizations which believe themselves to be diametrically opposed turn out to be more alike than either ever realized. They have the same organization structure, they use the same methods to achieve their goals, their goals look a lot more alike after they've been met than they ever claimed: whatever their differences, they're overwhelmed by the similarities.

Two organizations turn out to be more alike than either ever realized. They have the same organization structure, they use the same methods to achieve their goals, their goals look a lot more alike after they've been met than they ever claimed: whatever their differences, they're overwhelmed by the similarities.

** The "Local Cluster Council" and "Federated Cluster Union" introduced in FanFic/{{Fractured}} are revealed to be [[SufficientlyAdvancedAlien really advanced beings]] [[spoiler:Eridians, also known as Forerunners]] who muck about in the galaxy/universe as a scientist would with smaller experiments rather than being the benevolent hands-off guardians they think themselves to be. Their interference has caused more than a few problems, but may also offer a solution, depending on how [[CharacterDevelopment certain people change]]...

* In ''FanFic/{{Fractured}}'', a ''Franchise/MassEffect''[=/=]''Franchise/StarWars''[[spoiler:[=/=]''[=Borderlands=]'']] [[MassiveMultiplayerCrossover crossover]] and its [[FanFic/{{Origins}} sequel]], the characters find out many factions are more similar than they might want to admit or appear at first glance.

* ''TabletopGame/{{Pathfinder}}'': The Pathfinder Society and the Aspis Consortium are engaged in pretty much the same thing-- [[DungeonCrawling looting artifacts from ancient dungeons]]--but the PFS likes to get on a high horse and to claim recovery and preservation of knowledge as its objective, whereas Aspis are much more ready to admit that it's just business for them.

Compare and contrast WeAreStrugglingTogether for cases where the same organization is fighting amongst itself and EvilCounterpartRace for cases where an organization is an evil version of another. Contrast ThePsychoRangers. See MirrorCharacter for individual characters who are oddly alike.

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--> '''Captain Foxe:''' That's the difference between us and them -- even if our wizards had the sort of minds that could even think of such things, we would never, never use them. \\

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* ''Machinima/RedVsBlue'': [[Machinima/RedVsBlueSeason14 Season 14]]'s "The Triplets" and "The 'Mission'" follow a trio of Project Freelancer agents who are given [[ReassignedToAntarctica a dead-end transfer to a frozen wasteland]]. There, they meet a trio of soldiers who are from opposing faction Charon Industries and wear red-trimmed armor in contrast to their own blue armor. As the two groups discover, they have all been abandoned there by their respective organizations for being the worst soldiers around. Further highlighting their similarities, each trio consists of two men and one woman, with the woman being the closest they have to a leader.

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* In ''Manga/AttackOnTitan'', the characters are eventually confronted by this reality upon learning the truth about the world. [[spoiler: The Titans are humans involuntarily transformed into monsters, and the entire conflict is simply humans fighting over resources. Reiner, Bertolt, and Annie are not the psychopathic monsters Eren accused them of being. Instead, they're merely soldiers from an opposing nation doing what they believe is necessary to protect the world. This similarity results in them becoming FireForgedFriends during their time in training, but creates considerable pain on both sides when their opposing missions force them to fight each other]].
* ''LightNovel/ACertainMagicalIndex'': A few characters {{lampshade|Hanging}} how both sides of ScienceVsMagic have similar methods and goals. For example, Academy City's goal of creating a Level 6 Esper through science is similar to the teachings of UsefulNotes/{{Gnosticism}}.
* In ''LightNovel/TheFamiliarOfZero'', humans and elves had FantasticRacism toward each other. Several characters learn that other than cosmetic differences, humans and elves behave almost the exact same way in similar situations. Arie, an elf with a great hatred for humans, eventually befriends Guiche when he sees that Guiche's interactions with his girlfriend Montmorency mirror his own interactions with his girlfriend Luctiana.
* ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamSEED'': Uzumi Nara Atha, leader of the neutral nation of Orb, notes that the warring factions of ZAFT and the Earth Forces, are not so different; both are genocidal regimes who are unwilling to compromise or seek a mediated solution. He draws particular paralells between their leaders, the [[PunyEarthlings Natural-hating]] [[GeneralRipper Patrick Zala]] and [[DesignerBabies Coordinator-bashing]] Muruta Azrael. Both men would go ballistic if they heard this.
* ''Manga/NausicaaOfTheValleyOfTheWind'':
** Nausicaä outright tells the Pejite survivors that they aren't any better than the Tolmekians when [[spoiler: they reveal their plan to destroy the Valley]] to get back at the Tolmekians, which they don't take kindly to hearing.
** She also does this to Asbel when he argues that his people are nothing like the "bloodthirsty" Tolmekians. However it's not hard to see similarities when both leaderships are fine with weaponizing forces beyond their control in their power struggle and having no trouble screwing over Nausicaä's people, who had nothing to do with their conflict, in the process.
* ''Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion'': One of the big revelations is that [[spoiler:humans share much of their DNA with their enemies]], the [[EldritchAbomination Angels]]. Misato remarks on the tragic irony behind the fact that each race wants to exterminate the other despite [[spoiler:being so similar on a genetic level.]]
* Parodied in ''Manga/OuranHighSchoolHostClub'' between the titular club and the Zuka club. Both are hammy, often cosplay, wear lavish costumes, have legions of fangirls and want Haruhi to stay/join them.
* In ''LightNovel/{{Slayers}}'', it is revealed that the only differences between Gods/Shinzoku and Demons/Mazoku is the type of emotions that feeds them and the magic that can be called upon from them (Shinzoku being [[HolyHandGrenade HolyMagic]] and Mazoku being BlackMagic.)
* ''Anime/SpaceBattleshipYamato'': For most of the first season we are repeated that the Gamilas are evil for what they've done to Earth and Mankind, but when the ''Yamato'' is about to reach Iskandar we find out that the Gamilas did what they did because they had no other choice but to adapt Earth to them if they were to survive, and that included the extinction of Earth's original life forms. Kodai has to acknowledge their similarities after the battle to reach Iskandar has [[spoiler: devastated Gamilas and destroyed its cities, killing billions, by the very actions of the ''Yamato'' crew]].
* In ''Anime/TengenToppaGurrenLagann'', Simon discovers that after taking Teppelin, they have been forcing humans to live above ground whether they want to or not...which really isn't too different from the oppression Lordgenome imposed on humanity by forcing them to live under the surface.
* ''Manga/YuYuHakusho'': This is actually a major underlying theme in the story. Mainly in that demons are also not so different to humans. Demons are a designated evil and have no obligations to being good. Thus often making themselves out to be more evil. [[OurDemonsAreDifferent Well, at least in this show]]. But the series then introduces many humans who are just as evil if not worse than demons and many demons who have proven to be truly good-hearted like Yukina. In the end chapters of the manga, for example, announcer girls Juri and Koto, known for not being afraid to commentate on carnage during the tournaments, find a natural affinity for television. It's a sign that more-disciplined demons who learn to play by the rules (the most basic rule: don't exploit humans) can be accepted by humans as being rather decent folk.
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* Something of a recurring theme in ''Film/BattleLosAngeles'': Some Marines spot an alien commander spotting for two alien snipers on top of a roof. Lenihan surmises they may be just like them — grunts with families and a home, with no idea what's really happening and just get told to go fight.
** Displayed as well — several scenes show downed enemy aliens being dragged away back into cover by their squadmates, with the others providing covering fire. Just like what human soldiers do. The directors made it a big deal that the aliens used human tactics.
** A subtle case of this pops up when the scientist discusses how the aliens are using "colonization" tactics on humanity. Though not outright stated, there's an implication that we know the aliens are using colonization tactics because mankind used them too.
* ''Film/BridgeOfSpies'': Despite being archenemies, both the Communists and Americans are willing to compromise their idealistic beliefs to persecute those they view as spies and traitors.
* The villain in ''Film/CaptainAmericaTheWinterSoldier'' claims that HYDRA is this to S.H.I.E.L.D., even insisting that he was initially convinced to join due to Nick Fury's actions in resolving a hostage crisis. The argument has a little bit more weight than normal, since [[spoiler:HYDRA infiltrated S.H.I.E.L.D. at its very beginning and a large percentage of S.H.I.E.L.D.'s staff are actually HYDRA moles; the infiltration is heavy enough that many people in-universe believe that there literally is no difference the two. Their evil plan in the movie was even Fury's idea]].
** ''Film/DawnOfThePlanetOfTheApes'' has this dynamic between the apes and the humans. Practically every human character has an ape counterpart: Caesar and Malcolm, Ellie and Bright Eyes, Alexander and Blue Eyes, Foster and Maurice, and Carver and Koba. Lampshaded by Caesar, after he sees [[spoiler:Koba's actions]]:
--->[[spoiler:I chose to trust him, because he is ape. I always think ape better than human, I see now how much like them we are.]]
* ''Franchise/{{Godzilla}}''
** The first appearance of the three-headed alien dragon King Ghidorah was in a 1964 flick called ''Film/GhidorahTheThreeHeadedMonster''. In one scene in the movie, Mothra starts pleading with Godzilla and Rodan (who seem more occupied with fighting each other to be concerned about Ghidorah) to help her fight the larger threat, while Mothra's tiny handmaidens translate the conversation to the humans viewing. And it would almost seem funny if not for the crisis. Both Godzilla and Rodan blame each other for starting the fight and neither is willing to consider an alliance until the other apologizes. Eventually, one onlooker comments that "These monsters are as bad as humans."
** For much of ''Film/{{Godzilla 2014}}'' humans are shown caring about their offspring, Joe and Sandra for Ford, Ford and Al for Sam, Akio's parents for him and Ford being his guardian. Then the MUTO show complete alarm and terror when there is an explosion where their nest is. The sounds of anguish made by the mother border on a TearJerker.
* ''Film/GoldThroughTheFire'': The film portrays the Soviet Union and US this way regarding Christianity. However, this relies on a lot of [[HollywoodLaw legal inaccuracy]].
* ''Film/TheGreyZone:''
** The Jews who are being forced to escort people into the gas chambers and then burn them in the ovens struggle with how similar they are to the Nazis.
** A disturbing example is when [[spoiler: Hoffman brutally beats an old man to death over a watch and a Nazi guard smugly hands it over to him afterwards.]]
* There are several moments in ''Film/JoyeuxNoel'' highlighting where each side realizes they are not much different than the other.
** The Christmas truce started as German opera singer Nikolaus sang Silent Night and a Scottish bagpiper played back to him. And later on, the bagpiper began playing O Come All Ye and waited for Nikolaus to sing back. Which he did immediately, with everyone listening intently, united by their love of music.
** All sides meet in person for the first time in No Man's Land. One French soldier and a German soldier share their fondness for the same stray cat and even lightly bicker who the cat belongs to, while a Scottish and German soldier exchange photos of their wives.
** The next morning the lieutenants are in agreement to return the bodies of the deceased to the other side and the following scene shows the quiet unison of all the soldiers retrieving their comrades and burying them.
** The German lieutenant shares to the French lieutenant that his wife's favorite place to visit is Monteparnasse and that they had their honeymoon in Paris. It's later revealed that his wife is French, underscoring the absurdity of the "they are different" propaganda.
* ''Film/JudgmentAtNuremberg'':
** There is a point about the "My country, right or wrong" doctrine which is proclaimed by nationalists, both German and American.
** When Lawson testifies about hangings of children in concentration camps, the camera cuts to a close up of a stone-faced African-American MP, drawing an implicit parallel with lynchings.
** Rolfe defends his clients against charges for ordering eugenic sterilizations by noting that the US Supreme Court itself sanctioned them, even explicitly citing Justice Holmes' notorious conclusion "three generations of imbeciles are enough" (while in fact the Nazis took inspiration from American eugenicists).
* This is what ultimately leads [[spoiler:Cypher]] to betray LaResistance in ''Film/TheMatrix''. As he explains at length, while Zion and the rebels have freed him from the tyranny of the Machines' simulated world, the Zion military themselves are not above using lies of omission and forced conscription in order to draft more soldiers, and all he is able to do as a member of the military is what he is ordered to do; he is ultimately no more free under the rebellion than he was under the machines.
** And ultimately, the machines are more human than they pretend they aren't; they exploit the humans just as thoroughly as the humans exploited the machines, and for all their beliefs that they treat their fellow machines equally, they marginalize and oppress a synthetic race ''they'' created, [[spoiler:The Programs]][[note]]Programs are capable of the same empathy and emotions as humans while also possessing machine-level intelligence, allowing them to perform complex calculations as their occupations while also living regular human lives in virtual cyberspaces (including the Matrix). Despite working as dilligent salary-men for the machines, they're still oppressed by (at least) one ruthless law: if a Program cannot do its job, or does not have a job, it is scheduled for termination. This especially applies to Program children.[[/note]], for being closer to what humanity wanted them to become, out of the same fear the humans had of being 'replaced'.
* Blithely dismissed in ''Film/RedDawn1984'':
-->'''Matt''': What's the difference, Jed? Tell me, what's the difference between us and them?\\
'''Jed''': Because...[[OccupiersOutOfOurCountry WE LIVE HERE!]] ''[shoots soldier]''
* ''Film/WonderWoman2017'': Diana goes to the World War 1 believing the Germans are the enemy and that Ares is behind their aggression. The more she learns about the world, the more she realizes that all societies have their demons. Chief[[note]]Native American[[/note]] mentions how his people were killed and when Diana asks who killed them, he points to a sleeping Steve[[note]]White American[[/note]] and says it was his people.

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* ''Literature/NineteenEightyFour'': Despite the ongoing war between them, Oceanian, Eurasian and Eastasian societies and ideologies are all functionally identical and all have the same goal: the ruling class creating a world built on entirely on suffering which they can rule over forever.
* The whole point of ''Literature/AnimalFarm''. In the story, the farm animals kick the humans out and take over their farm. They establish a set of rules to keep them from associating with humans (among the rules were no sleeping in beds, no wearing clothes, no drinking, no walking on hind legs, etc.). Napoleon, a pig, is more concerned about the welfare of himself and his fellow pigs than the other animals. Over time, the pigs start indulging in more and more human luxuries, and mannerisms, all while continuing to exploit the other animals, until the famous end scene where [[spoiler: Benjamin the donkey sees the pigs drinking and hanging out with men, and he's unable to tell the difference between the pigs and the men.]] The whole story was symbolism for how author Creator/GeorgeOrwell interpreted Communist Russia: the leaders just exploited the workers for their own gain, effectively making them the same as the aristocratic upper class communism sought to overthrow.
* In the ''Franchise/DoctorWhoExpandedUniverse'' novel ''The Silent Stars Go By'', the Doctor sharply contrasts the human colonists (Morphans) on Hereafter, who are working hard to terraform the planet in the knowledge that eventually their descendants will benefit, with the Ice Warriors, who plan to alter the terraforming machinary to suit their own needs, then hibernate until it's ready for them. It turns out [[spoiler: the Morphans aren't preparing the planet for their descendants but their ancestors, who are in cryo-sleep beneath the terramorphing engines. It also turns out some of them have woken up, and the horrible red-eyed monsters preying on the colonies ''aren't'' the Ice Warriors.]]
* ''Literature/GoodOmens'' spells this out ''explicitly'' in the relationship between Hell and Heaven, down to ostracizing Crowley and Aziraphale in the same ways for the same reason, wanting Armageddon to occur simply because it's "supposed" to, and even to their human followers down on Earth. Fundamentalists are implied to have gotten so monomaniacal that they've lost all sense of an ethical code.
* In ''Literature/TheHitchhikersGuideToTheGalaxy1'', Arthur wakes up to his house being destroyed to build a bypass, and by the end of the same day, he finds himself on an alien ship who just destroyed the entire planet earth to...build a bypass.
* ''Literature/TheLordOfTheRings'':
** Sam wonders of the [[WhatMeasureIsAMook dead Southron soldier]] "whether he was really evil at heart, and what lies or threats had driven him on this march so long from his home, and whether he would have rather stayed there in peace."
** Even when the Free Peoples (elves, dwarves, hobbits, ents, and good men) endure WeAreStrugglingTogether and the orcs, Nazgûl, trolls, and evil men have an EnemyCivilWar, both sides knew that [[WarIsHell any of their enemies will destroy them ruthlessly]], Gorbag tells this to Shagrat in the second book and Frodo tells this to Sam in the third.
* In ''Mere Christianity'', a theological work by Creator/CSLewis, the writer subverts the tradition by pointing out that if British were really so different from Nazis there would be no point in being horrified; because there would in fact be [[BlueAndOrangeMorality nothing to judge them on]]. That is they could not say their enemies were evil or that British were less bad then Nazis unless there actually was enough in common to judge them.
* ''Literature/{{Mockingjay}}'': District 13 is at first depicted in the story as LaResistance, since it is the only large scale organization opposing President Snow and The Capitol. As Katniss begins to work with them, she encounters propaganda from Snow [[spoiler:and BrainwashedAndCrazy Peeta]] that paints District 13 as a terrorist organization, which forces District 13 to invoke YourTerroristsAreOurFreedomFighters. However, the idealistic [[BlackAndWhiteMorality black-and-white]] image of the struggle is [[GrayingMorality eroded over time]] as District 13 begins to [[HeWhoFightsMonsters care less about the safety of innocents]] around them [[spoiler:and willing to sacrifice them]] for the sake of their victory, leading to a more BlackAndGreyMorality. By the book's end, when Katniss is given the task of [[spoiler:[[PublicExecution publicly executing]] President Snow after District 13 takes control of The Capitol, she instead kills the leader of District 13 President Coin, as she had just announced using the children from the Capitol in a new Hunger Games as a form of punishment, indicating that District 13 had become The Capitol 2.0]]. In the epilogue, Katniss has decided to live in the empty remains of her home district [[spoiler:with husband Peeta and their 2 kids]], rather than be further involved with the new government.
* ''Literature/{{Oathbringer}}'' (third book of ''Literature/TheStormlightArchive''): When the SlaveRace parshmen regain their minds for the first time in centuries, they immediately begin acting exactly like the people of the countries they were enslaved. The [[ProudWarriorRace Alethi]] retreat to gather into an army and prepare for war. The [[ProudMerchantRace Thaylens]] steal ships from the harbor and flee. And the [[ObstructiveBureaucrat Azish]]... file a class-action lawsuit against their government for back pay and damages.
* ''Literature/{{Pyramids}}'': The Ephebian and Tsortian armies are dressed the same, fight the same, and even have the same rations they complain about. The opposing scout commanders have a pleasant conversation where they apologize to each other for the [[FriendlyEnemy massacres they are about to enact on each other]] before returning to their men... and then they sheepishly turn around because they both ''went back to the wrong army''.
* ''Literature/RWBYFairyTalesOfRemnant'': In ''The Judgement of Faunus'', Humans and animals are at war because of what they fear and envy in the other. This blinds them to their similarities, which the god spots as soon as he starts talking to them. To teach them how they can be so much more together than divided, he transforms them all into something that's part-Human, part-animal.
* ''Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire'': Comes up with the various feudal states, unsurprisingly for a book about medieval {{Realpolitik}}. Slavery is common in Essos while SlaveryIsASpecialKindOfEvil just over the ocean in Westeros and in the Iron islands. However, the nobility of Westeros impose crippling class oppression on the "smallfolk" (peasants), who effectively belong to whatever lord claims the land they live on (which can change due to circumstances such as conquest, marriage, or royal decree) and can face losing limb or life for trivial slights against their lords, while the Ironborn look down on chattel slavery but taking "thralls" (indentured labourers whose children will be freemen) and "salt wives" (female captives) from raids is fair game. As noted by [[spoiler:Tyrion Lannister]] in his travels through Essos, many slaves are treated ''better'' than the Westerosi peasantry, and being a peasant in Westeros is often being a slave in all but name. In other words, the peoples of this world cling to notions of civilization through trivial linguistic gymnastics.
* ''Literature/SwordOfTruth'': There's the fact that the Confessors, a faction of "good" women, have the same infanticidal tendencies as the House of Rahl, the leaders of the evil empire. Or how Emperor Jagang does all his horrible actions in the name of God while Richard does all of his horrible actions in the name of "Moral Clarity". Then, despite Richard claiming that he's fighting for freedom against tyranny he demands total submission in the war, dismissing any reasonable suspicion as he demands this under threat of later punishment. All his talk of individual liberty is hollow since anyone who ever disagrees with him is labeled an idiot or enemy, much like the Imperial Order views everyone else.
* ''Literature/WarriorCats'': While traditionally in conflict with each other, it is noted in a later series that Thunderclan and Shadowclan are a lot more alike than they may think. While they have very different outlooks and general personalities, they are both the forest hunting clans versus the fish hunting Riverclan and open territory Windclan and generally have similar body builds as a result. They also have more influxes of kittypet and rogues into their ranks than the other clans.

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* In ''Series/BabylonFive'': Once upon a time, there was a peaceful race that was attacked by savage enemies coming from nowhere who enslaved and killed them until they fought them off, and then expanded to both take their revenge and prevent this from ever happening again, only to become violent conquerors themselves in the process. This is the backstory of the Narn, invaded by the Centauri... And the Centauri themselves, invaded by the Xon (the main difference being that the Centauri successfully exterminated the Xon while the Narn were never a serious danger to the more powerful Centauri).
* ''Series/BandOfBrothers'': In the last episode, the final speech of a German general to his collected men before they (the German soldiers) are sent back home drives the point home that the German rank-and-file soldiers and the American soldiers aren't all that different after all. The speech the colonel makes could very well have been made by Major Winters to his own men and have meant the same thing: ''"Men, it's been a long war, it's been a tough war. You've fought bravely, proudly for your country. You're a special group. You've found in one another a bond that exists only in combat, among brothers. You've shared foxholes, held each other in dire moments. [[FireForgedFriends You've seen death and suffered together]]. I'm proud to have served with each and every one of you. You all deserve long and happy lives in peace."''
* CharacterDevelopment and {{backstory}} have combined to make this the case between Humanity and the Cylons in the new ''{{Series/Battlestar Galactica|2003}}''. Many of the Cylons have come to realize they are no better than humans and are in fact very human indeed. Humanity had slowly come around to the point where most of the main cast acknowledge the Cylons are people too, though the process on their end is hampered by the Cylons whole [[DepopulationBomb killed 20 billion people]] thing which makes it easier for people to deny the similarities- admittedly, [[MoralEventHorizon they may have a point]]. This leads to a great deal of trouble when most of the main group are forced to acknowledge this trope, they needed to or they would both die essentially, but a great many cannot get past the aforementioned stumbling block for obvious reasons.
* The KoreanDrama series ''Series/CrashLandingOnYou'' shows that despite the major differences in political and economic systems in North and South Korea, the people of both nations are still Korean and can be quite alike. The women in Jeong-Hyuk's rural village are quite gossipy about village affairs and romance like their urban South Korean counterparts, the elites of both nations play sinister games for clout and power, and Jeong-Hyuk's soldiers are not mooks, but rather treated as a BandOfBrothers with their individual quirks and steadfast loyalty to each other like how a South Korean series would depict its own soldiers.
* ''Series/DrQuinnMedicineWoman''. One of the recurring themes was the constant clashing between the mostly white townspeople/Army and the Native Americans who had been displaced by them. But it was often noted that the dog soldiers could be just as cruel and violent as the Army that they despised. Later, when Dorothy and Cloud Dancing strike up a friendship when she decides to write a book about him, she endures much ridicule and snubs from the locals, to the point where she stands him up for one of their meetings. When she goes to apologize and admit to why she didn't show up, he points out the angry and disapproving looks from ''his'' people, revealing that he's been facing the same problem – and that both groups can be just as prejudiced as the other.
* ''Series/AFrenchVillage'': The French Resistance later hang and shoot people without trial, just like the Germans.
* ''Series/TheOuterLimits1995'': In "[[Recap/TheOuterLimits1995S4E21PromisedLand Promised Land]]", Rebecca realizes that the Tsal-Kahn are not really monsters or all that different from humanity when she's about to strike Krenn with a chair, and she covers her son Ma'al to protect him. This is the realization it takes for both sides to make peace.
* ''Series/ThePromise2011'': The series makes this point explicit regarding Jewish militants in the 40s and Palestinian militants in the early 2000s. Both are {{fighting for a homeland}} and willing to use brutal tactics in doing so. They are viewed as [[YourTerroristsAreOurFreedomFighters freedom fighters by supporters, terrorists by enemies]]. Further, the British used some tactics to fight the Jewish militants that modern Israel also uses against Palestinians. The series implies that both the conflicts will only end with the militants getting a homeland.
* While they are sometimes great guys, if a little arrogant and condescending (and having proved useless at stopping their cousins), the Tok'ra of ''Series/StargateSG1'' are occasionally accused of not being that different from the Goa'uld. Given that their progenitor was a good Goa'uld it would appear it is possible for Goa'uld to not be [[AlwaysChaoticEvil inherently evil]], and some are far less grandiose and insane than the others. On the other side of things, the Tok'ra are different as they take hosts only with permission and live in a symbiosis with those hosts. At least that's the idea. A couple of instances where a Tok'ra took a host unwillingly (although that was possibly a misunderstanding) and dominated their host and took action without their permission (deliberate) suggest there might be some truth to the accusations. Really the Tok'ra are like when a government claims it is introducing extraordinarily harsh measures which 'shall only very rarely be used' in that they still have the potential to KickTheDog like the Goa'uld and sometimes do so. Despite this, the Tok'ra get very upset if someone should make the comparison as if someone should be able to tell the good snake parasites from the bad ones on sight, even though Goa'uld can fake being in true symbiosis with their hosts as well.
* ''Franchise/StarTrek''
** ''Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration'':
*** The episode "The Chase" ended with the same overture. A Klingon, Cardassian, Romulan, and human (Picard) deploy to an unknown planet to solve a puzzle there. While the delegations have their standoff, a hologram of an ancient humanoid revealed herself as the common progenitor of all four races. The Klingons and Cardassians rejected the message due to their own prejudices (the Cardassian captain being disgusted by the idea that their species could even be ''slightly'' related to Klingons), but the Romulan captain seemed moved by it, suggesting to Picard before his ship departs that, "One day..." [there may be peace].
*** Our actual first look at a "common Klingon soldier" came with the [=TNG=] episode "A Matter of Honor" when Riker spends some time aboard a Klingon cruiser. In addition to showing he's able to fit in among them, he also notes that your average Klingon is at the core just trying to get through the day; they have goals, desires, personalities, even issues.
** ''Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine'':
*** In "Past Tense", Bashir questions whether this might be the case after getting a look at the ugly side of human history. Sisko, having no concrete answer to give, only replies that he hopes they never have to find out.
---->'''Bashir''': It makes you wonder, doesn't it? Are humans really any different than Cardassians or Romulans? If push comes to shove, if something disastrous happens to the Federation, if we are frightened enough, or desperate enough, how would we react? Would we stay true to our ideals or would we just stay up here, right back where we started?
*** The heroes are aware that the Romulan Empire and the Cardassian Union both have a sinister StateSec in their services (the Tal Shi'ar and Obsidian Order, respectively), but they always thought that their own Federation was above such nefarious organisations...until they learn that they too have one in the form of Section 31.
* In ''Series/{{Supernatural}}'', this is Heaven and Hell: while nominally on opposite sides, even Heaven has a torture chamber and they suffer similar power vacuums and the resultant effects through the ranks throughout the series. They even both rely on possessing human vessels to function.
* ''Series/TerminatorTheSarahConnorChronicles'':
** One of the recurring themes is how the tactics of the human resistance have come to resemble those of [=SkyNet=] and its terminators as their battle gets more and more desperate. One of the most chilling scenes has Sarah repeating Kyle's warning from the first movie, about how the machines will never rest until their target is dead. Meanwhile, the events onscreen show [[spoiler: Derek murdering Andy Goode in cold blood.]]
** How much the machines are coming to resemble humans in their quest to infiltrate them. Sarah makes note of this at the end of another episode, saying that if machines ever learn to create art or appreciate emotion, then "they won't need to destroy us. They'll be us." While this is happening, we see Cameron doing ballet for no readily apparent reason, while Derek watches, unsure of what to think.
** Then there's the fact that the machines are not a unified front. There is dissent, and some machines are even willing to ally with LaResistance against [=SkyNet=], including [[spoiler:Catherine Weaver]].
* ''Series/TheTwilightZone'' had a lot of these, considering it aired just after UsefulNotes/WorldWarII and UsefulNotes/TheKoreanWar during the UsefulNotes/ColdWar. One featured a UsefulNotes/WW2 Pacific Theater SociopathicSoldier who was eager for Japanese blood, to the disgust of his battle-weary comrades. One of them points out that the enemy is just as sick of battle as they are (if not more so), but it takes [[{{Anvilicious}} the soldier becoming a Japanese soldier and having his bloodthirsty words parroted back to him]] for him to get it.

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* In ''Manhua/MyWifeIsADemonQueen'', aside from cosmetic differences, the demons shown to date could easily pass for humans, in appearance, culture, and behavior. In fact, Isabella does so, once she's lost her magical power completely and sports a human body.

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* ''TabletopGame/CurseOfStrahd'': In the town of Vallaki, players get confronted with the cruel and strict laws of the Burgomaster and the ambitious, wealthy Lady Fiona Wachter. Initially, Wachter seems like the reasonable choice for leader over the paranoid Burgomaster who thinks that putting people into stocks for not smiling will keep them safe. But searching the Wachter estate reveals her as the head of a blood magic cult and helping her become Burgomaster will lead to Vallaki falling under the arguably even worse control of Strahd, with vampire spawn instead of soldiers patrolling the streets. Most players sooner or later get rid of both or return to see that the town had been razed to the ground.
* ''TabletopGame/{{Pathfinder}}'': The Pathfinder Society and the Aspis Consortium are engaged in pretty much the same thing-- [[DungeonCrawling looting artifacts from ancient dungeons]]--but the PFS likes to get on a high horse and to claim recovery and preservation of knowledge as its objective, whereas Aspis are much more ready to admit that it's just business for them.
* A major theme with the warring tribes, concordats and nations of Venus in ''TabletopGame/RocketAge'', who are often very like their neighbours and rivals. An telling point is how many of the various groups call themselves '[[OfThePeople the people]]'.
* ''TabletopGame/VampireTheMasquerade'': For all of the Camarilla's [[SophisticatedAsHell Civility]] and the Sabbat's "You're a monster, ACT like it" mentality, much of the rules that govern the Camarilla also govern the Sabbat, they just come about it from different angles. For instance, the Camarilla's masquerade is in place to keep mortals from finding out about vampires and mobilizing accordingly. The Sabbat employs a similar law, but with the justification that they're better than mortals anyway and don't need to associate with such rabble.
* ''TabletopGame/Warhammer40000'':
** One planet hasn't been visited by the Imperium in millennia, which hasn't stopped them from breaking out in civil wars for supposed heresies as they await the Emperor's return. Chaos warriors who raid the planet for slaves take sadistic joy in either making the captives realize the Imperium doesn't even remember they exist, or by showing them a battle between the "righteous" and "heretical" factions on their own planet to show there's no difference between the two.
** Expect this to come up in stories where the [[RisingEmpire Tau Empire]] and the [[VestigialEmpire Imperium of Man]] are on opposite sides. Both sides are characterized by {{Realpolitik}}, and both sides are convinced of the superiority of their virtues over the wrongness of the other, each holding its adherents to an impossible ideal. Sometimes, this is even brought up by the characters themselves, with the Tau using this as proof that any human can abandon the brutal dictatorship of the Imperium and join the Greater Good, while the Imperials use this in turn to cynically point out that the two empires are not so different and the Imperium is [[AtLeastIAdmitIt at least honest about its own darkness]]. In the ''Literature/CiaphasCain'' novels, the protagonists, an Imperial Guard platoon, meet a mirror in a Tau Fire Warrior squad and the two are surprisingly quite co-operative.
** Also, the Imperium and the [[SpaceElves Eldar]]. They're both elitist xenophobes with a smug superiority complex, they both once had great empires that were brought low by Chaos, and they're both now slowly dying out and beset by enemies on all sides, bitterly fighting for survival. Also, there's what Inquisitor Kryptman did to avert a Tyranid assault (lure it into Ork territory), which is little different than what [[MagnificentBastard Eldrad]] did to avert an Ork invasion (lure it into Armageddon).
** What is the difference between an Imperial Crusade and an [[OurOrcsAreDifferent Ork]] Waaagh? "''Very little''". "Unorky" and "heretical" are the same basic concepts: [[FantasticRacism the other side is different from us]], and because they're different, [[AbsoluteXenophobe they're wrong]] and [[GuiltFreeExterminationWar deserve to be exterminated]]. What's worse, "Orky" and "religiously sanctioned" are still [[CivilWarcraft valid targets]]. Ork Waaaghs may have a WarForFunAndProfit side to them, but otherwise that, ladies and gentlemen, is it. [[EvilVersusEvil That should tell you everything you need to know about this setting]].
** ''Literature/HorusHeresy'' also pulls this on, of all people, the Thousand Sons and Space Wolves. While the Space Wolves' militancy and disdain for written knowledge is the exact opposite of the Thousand Sons' artistic and scholarly bent, both suffer from undesired transformations (Wulfen, the Flesh Change) and both defied the Emperor's edict banning the use of psychic powers, although the Wolves believed that their Rune Priests instead channelled the power of Fenris. Ahriman even [[GoMadFromTheRevelation shatters a Rune Priest's sanity]] by demonstrating the latter to him.
** Sisters of Battle specializes in fighting against Chaos, but there's very little difference between the two factions other than their object of worship. Both are hyperfundamentalists who come in battle decked in various religious icons, sigils and motifs, with prayers in their lips and the capacity to create magical effects through their faiths. And there are hints that the Living Saints are actually empowered by the Warp, making them the Imperium's equivalent to Greater Daemons or Daemon Princes.
* ''TabletopGame/WitchCraft'': The Knights Templar have much nobler goals than their sworn enemy, the Combine, but use the same shadowy conspiracy tactics, from media manipulation to assassination. To their credit, the Knights try to avoid "collateral damage" as much as possible, but [[IDidWhatIHadToDo they will do what they must]] to defeat the Combine.
* ''TabletopGame/TheWitcherGameOfImagination'': Humans and elves. Both races are almost enirely made out of jerks, bastards and monsters. Both treat every other race with a smug smile of superiority, almost always undeserved. First thing both did after arrival to the Continent? Starting a war with the local population. Elves like to use every opportunity to point out how barbaric humans are, glossing over their own equally horrific deeds. Meanwhile, humanity is over-jealous of many elven traits, be it longevity, beauty, or magic powers. Which leads to constant conflicts, pogroms and wars.

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* In ''Theatre/RomeoAndJuliet'', the titular characters are from "two houses, both alike in dignity" and standing in society. While they hate each other viciously, they're pretty clearly inclined to the same type of behavior, down to ignoring their children so thoroughly the two are pushed to suicide.

[[folder:Video Games]]
* In ''VideoGame/DeusEx'', Paul Denton mentions to the player the irony of how in order to defeat the one-worlders, the resistance forces, who support sovereignty and independence for the different peoples throughout the world, have to become a global organization.
* In the ''Franchise/DragonAge'' series, the Templars and the mages might be at war each other, both groups have difficulty with shades of grey and both fit into the KnightTemplar trope.
* ''Franchise/TheElderScrolls'':
** The [[OurGodsAreDifferent Aedra and the Daedra]] are typically viewed as opposites, particularly by mortals. Good and Evil. [[OrderVersusChaos Order and Chaos]]. Light and Dark. [[GodIsGood Gods of Good]] and [[GodIsEvil Gods of Evil]]. [[OurAngelsAreDifferent Angels]] and [[OurDemonsAreDifferent Demons]]. However, prior to the [[CreationMyth creation of Mundus]], the mortal plane, there was no distinction made between these et'Ada ("original spirits"). The Aedra are simply the et'Ada who participated in creation (which is why their name means "our ancestors" in [[ClassicalTongue Old Aldmeris]], while the Daedra ("not our ancestors") did not. This is why scholars and, in a few cases, the deities themselves, are quick to point out that these are beings truly AboveGoodAndEvil who operate on their own BlueAndOrangeMorality. Anyone trying to classify them as such is simply trying to apply mortal moralities to immortal beings, which is a foolhardy endeavor.
** The Morag Tong is a legal Dunmeri [[MurderInc assassin's guild]] of {{Professional Killer}}s. They hold Mephala, a Daedric Prince whose sphere is "obscured to mortals", but who is associated with [[ManipulativeBastard manipulation, lies, sex, and secrets]], as their patron deity. The Dark Brotherhood is an ''illegal'' assassin's guild (leaning closer to a PsychoForHire organization) which split off from the Morag Tong long ago. They practice a relative ReligionOfEvil, serving the "Dread Father" Sithis and his wife, the Night Mother, a mysterious entity who leads the Brotherhood and speaks through [[MouthOfSauron the Listener]] of the organization. According to some sources, the Night Mother may very well be an aspect of Mephala, meaning that both groups, despite their differences, are still dedicated to the same deity.
** Vivec, the [[PhysicalGod Tribunal deity]], clearly was never a big fan of the [[OurDwarvesAreDifferent Dwemer]]. As one of [[FounderOfTheKingdom Nerevar's]] councilors, Vivec believed that peace could not be had between the Chimer and Dwemer. He later urged Nerevar to make war on the Dwemer when evidence was brought forth that showed they were in possession of the [[CosmicKeystone Heart of Lorkhan]] and were attempting to [[AscendToAHigherPlaneOfExistence tap into its power]]. However, Vivec would later draw his own divine powers from the Heart and the AGodAmI-type response he gives if you question his past actions is ''very'' similar to the one he attributes to the [[MadScientist Dwemer Architect Kagrenac]] when Nerevar originally questioned him about the Heart in ''The Battle of Red Mountain'':
----> '''Vivec''': ''"Can you, mortal, presume to judge the actions and motives of a god?"''
----> '''Kagrenac''' (per Vivec): ''"But Kagrenac took great offense, and asked whom Nerevar thought he was, that he might presume to judge the affairs of the Dwemer."''
** A race that prides themselves for completely shaping modern Tamriel into what it is today, who bull-headedly [[FantasticRacism looks down on other races]] and [[KlingonScientistsGetNoRespect professions]] that are commonly not used in their culture even though history has shown that they were once skilled practitioners of it, follow a religion that is basically a combination of Men and Mer beliefs while a sizable minority still follows their old religion. All of these can easily describe both the Nords and the Altmer as of the 4th Era.
** In ''VideoGame/TheElderScrollsVSkyrim'', the bard songs "Age of Aggression" and "Age of Oppression", sung by bards in pro-Imperial or pro-Stormcloak holds, respectively. The song tunes are identical and both songs have parts where the lyrics are the same. Try saving before the peace treaty and take different dialogue options to favor the Empire or Stormcloaks, and make note of how often the two sound just like the other between dialogue trees. If you finish the Civil War before the final battle, [[spoiler:you'll meet Rikke if you sided with the Stormcloaks, or Ulfric and Galmar if you sided with the Empire, in Sovngarde. It seems as far as the gods, or at least Shor, is concerned, they're all honorable heroes worthy of the afterlife. Tullius is only excluded because he's not a Nord, and so couldn't enter Sovngarde.]]
* In ''VideoGame/{{Fallout}}'', the Brotherhood of Steel has, since the first game, portrayed itself as a wise and noble order dedicated to protecting the rest of humanity from technology, which they are incapable of using wisely. They point to the Raiders and other scumbags of the wasteland as rationale for their confiscating what advanced technology they can, and destroying what they can't. Which makes them little more than the Raiders or any of the "I know best" themed tyrants in the game series.
* ''VideoGame/Fallout4'': The Synths and the very Institute they ran away from. Weird boogeymen with advanced technology whom all the other factions distrust because of how secretive they are.
** The Acadia faction of the ''Far Harbor'' DLC acts as an elaborated version of this, as a group of Synths that have ended up forming a (mostly) underground[[note]]Acadia was an observatory before the War, but the only thing in the dome is a small laboratory/server farm and the residence of Acadia's leader, everything else is in the lower levels, inside the mountain[[/note]] scientific institution mistrusted and mysterious to others in the region, with both a history and (depending on the player's actions) continued use of [[spoiler: Synth infiltrators and replacements of authority figures to protect its interests, claiming it to be for the common good]].
* ''VideoGame/GenshinImpact'': The Fatui and the Abyss Order are two villainous factions that the [[PlayerCharacter Traveler]] faces in their journey across Teyvat. They differ from each other in both origins and goals to the point that [[EvilVersusEvil they oppose each other in-game and are in direct competition for control of the continent]]. The Fatui is a CorruptBureaucrat syndicate from Snezhnaya lead by the [[AnIcePerson Cryo]] [[PhysicalGod Archon]]; the Tsaritsa, whose goal is to steal every Archon's Gnosis and end their reign over Teyvat in pursuit of her delusional dream of peace, while the Abyss Order is an AntiHumanAlliance composed of monsters from the [[EldritchLocation Abyss]] and currently lead by [[spoiler:the Traveler's long lost sibling]], whose goal is to overthrow the Archons and Celestia entirely as revenge for [[spoiler:destroying their original home of Khaenri'ah]]. Despite this, both factions do overlap in many aspects, such as their desire to challenge the divine order ruling Teyvat as well as having [[WellIntentionedExtremist sympathetic motives]] behind them.
* Explored during the [[{{Backstory}} Elder Wars]] of ''{{VideoGame/Lusternia}}''. The [[{{Precursors}} Elder Gods]] face off against the [[EldritchAbomination Soulless Ones]], and a splinter faction of Elders decides to employ the Soulless' own tactics against them: namely, [[CannibalismSuperpower eating their fallen foes to imbibe their strength]]. They become addicted to the rush of power and begin devouring other Elders, too. By the time of the game itself, one of these cannibalistic Elder Gods -- [[BlueAndOrangeMorality Morgfyre]] -- is indistinguishable from a Soulless One himself.
* ''VideoGame/MyChildLebensborn'': A journal entry written by the PlayerCharacter points out that both the Germans who valued the child and the Norwegians who are ostracizing the child think of the genes the same way. The only difference is that one group considers those carried by the child to be inherently good and another considers them to be inherently bad (the Norwegians believe that propensity for creating another UsefulNotes/NaziGermany is InTheBlood).
* ''VideoGame/StarWarsTheOldRepublic'' has the Republic and the Empire. The space missions for each side are identical, both factions make heavy use of hired guns (smugglers and bounty hunters, respectively), and both are plagued with bureaucratic power struggles making it impossible to get anything done without the player character's help.
* ''VideoGame/{{Undertale}}'': The opening intro leads you to believe that monsters and humans are totally different and the monsters are painted as the evil ones. Should you spare monsters and talk to various [=NPCs=], you can see that they aren't really that much different from humans in terms of what they celebrate, what their favorite hobbies are, and so on, but very few character actually mention the similarities. [[spoiler:Should you get the GoldenEnding, the trope is further expanded upon where humans and monsters are able to coexist with each other peacefully and very easily since they're very much alike.]]
* ''VideoGame/WildArms3'' has your playable party and the Shroedinger family, a rival gang of Drifters. Virginia and Maya are the hot headed leaders passionately searching for something in the wasteland (justice for Virginia, the ultimate gem for Maya), Clive and Todd are the older father figures who keep everyone's heads on straight, Gallows and Alfred are seemingly naive and immature characters who are much smarter than they initially appear, while Jet and Shady are the more anti-social members of the group who are also [[spoiler: the token non human. Shady is a talking cat while Jet is an [[ArtificialHuman Artificial Human.]]]]
* ''VideoGame/WolfensteinTheNewOrder'': Optional rebel character J has a less than rosy view of American society before ThoseWackyNazis took over with their DieselPunk, pointing out that the Nazis' actions are just the logical extreme of views on racial superiority and purity that were held by virtually every country in the 1930s, and that in particular America used to treat colored individuals like himself almost as bad as the Nazis treated Jews. To the point that, as a black man, the Nazi regime is pretty much a case of MeetTheNewBoss. Player character B.J. Blascowicz, an American-born Polish Jew (who ironically looks like he stepped off of a Nazi propaganda poster about the Ubermensch), doesn't take the comparison very well.

[[folder: Visual Novels]]
* In the HGame ''VisualNovel/LucyGotProblems'', Ellie mentions that the Angels caught wind of some Demons living in her home forest, so they [[FantasticNuke dropped about a million pounds of holy fire on it.]] She states that it doesn't matter if the fire is infernal, mundane, or heavenly to anyone or anything caught in the middle, and the end result is always ashes.
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[[folder:Web Animation]]
* ''Machinima/RedVsBlue'': [[Machinima/RedVsBlueSeason14 Season 14]]'s "The Triplets" and "The 'Mission'" follow a trio of Project Freelancer agents who are given [[ReassignedToAntarctica a dead-end transfer to a frozen wasteland]]. There, they meet a trio of soldiers who are from opposing faction Charon Industries and wear red-trimmed armor in contrast to their own blue armor. As the two groups discover, they have all been abandoned there by their respective organizations for being the worst soldiers around. Further highlighting their similarities, each trio consists of two men and one woman, with the woman being the closest they have to a leader.
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[[folder:Web Comics]]
* In ''Webcomic/{{Drowtales}}'', despite being a SuperiorSpecies the drow in particular are not actually that different from the goblin races. Just take a look at how the drow consider the goblin races. Now take a closer look at the drow. Ironic that the ones who consider halmes akin to locusts almost destroyed their own planet for mana-based life a millenia ago, isn't it?
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[[folder:Western Animation]]
* ''WesternAnimation/StarWarsTheCloneWars'': As shown in "[[Recap/StarWarsTheCloneWarsS3E10HeroesOnBothSides Heroes on Both Sides]]", aside from the military commanders, most of the Separatists are not the greedy bloodthirsty monsters the Republic makes them out to be. In fact, they are being manipulated into believing the Republic are the ones who started and are perpetuating the war and many members of their civilian government sincerely believe that they are fighting for democracy against the oppressive and corrupt Republic.
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* ''Webcomic/GirlGenius'': The main reason [[BigBad the Other]] is so reviled by pretty much everyone is that she uses slaver wasps to control people, with them having to obey her every order once they have become revenants. Even other characters with UndyingLoyalty hate the idea of ''forcing'' people to obey. One of the main forms of opposition to the Other come from Baron Wulfenbach, who has spent the majority of his rule gathering and destroying the Other's technology, and has biologically engineered weasels to sniff out revenants. And then he goes and [[spoiler: does the exact same thing as the Other has done to Agatha, by implanting a copy of his personality into his son so that he can control his to some extent and make sure that he doesn't help Agatha.]] This is [[http://www.girlgeniusonline.com/comic.php?date=20150420#.VvhSeeIrLIU explicitly called out in-comic]] by the Other herself. When the BigBad herself is criticising you, you know [[MoralEventHorizon you've fucked up]]. Still, a few pages later he shows the crucial difference between the two: Lucrezia's doing all of this [[ItsAllAboutMe for herself]].
* ''Webcomic/ManlyGuysDoingManlyThings'': Despite how much CommanderBadass dislikes [[CanadaEh Canadian Guy]], they are more alike than he'd care to admit, in tastes of games, enunciation, and even appearance (to the point that they're {{Palette Swap}}s of each other). Emphasized in [[http://thepunchlineismachismo.com/archives/comic/if-you-havent-seen-pacific-rim-yet-what-are-you-doing-go-now-drop-everything this comic]] where, despite having three siblings and two children (and though he doesn't mention them, an ex-wife, a love interest, and a surrogate son), Canadian Guy is the one Commander Badass is most [[Film/PacificRim drift-compatible]] with. As it turns out, there's a good reason for that. [[spoiler: Know how the Commander's an ArtificialHuman? Canadian Guy is a bootleg of him made with some regional variants by Canadians.]]