Follow TV Tropes

Following

History Main / MindScrewDriver

Go To

OR

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Updating links


** ''Team Titans'' makes no sense towards the end, as it is vaguely revealed that the team and its creation were all lies created by renegade Titan Hawk/Monarch. The "true purpose" of the team was supposed to be revealed in ''ComicBook/ZeroHour'', but little was revealed and outside of Terra II and Mirage (and the Team Titans who were existing Titan characters hanging around), the entire team was wiped out of existence with zero build-up or follow-up when their timeline got nuked.
** Terra II and her origin is another one, along with Amanda Connor's ''ComicBook/{{Terra}}'' mini-series that focused on the third Terra, as well as Brad Meltzer's aborted storyline involving Deathstroke and Terra's half-brother Geo-Force in ''Justice League of America''. Interviews with the writers had to sort things out as far as explaining away the entire thing, due to the comics offering no answers: Terra II was a soldier from a non-humanoid subterranean kingdom who took Terra's form under the (unknowing) notion that the surface world would accept her as an emissary if she looked like a fallen "hero" (the kingdom did not know Terra was a traitor). Time Trapper got a hold of her and mindwiped her, then planted her in a future timeline that Monarch was using to raise the Team Titans as his private evil army. Deathstroke later stole the original Terra's body so he could duplicate the process of how Terra got her powers. Deathstroke used his knowledge to force his half-sister's powers onto Geo-Force, knowing he would not be able to control them. To further torment Brion, Slade also implied that the powers would eventually drive him insane "like his sister", as Slade then claimed Terra only went evil because of her powers affecting her mind and the mind control serum he used on Batgirl Cassandra Caine not working well together and causing irreversible madness. Slade wanted Geo-Force to betray the Justice League for him but Geo-Force stopped Slade and (off-panel) it was revealed that everything Slade said to Brion about Terra was lies designed to terrorize Brion and further manipulate him into serving Slade lest he go insane from his newfound powers. And Terra III? After Terra II died at the hand of Black Adam in ''52'', the princess of the underground kingdom underwent a similar process to make her human though with a completely different appearance.

to:

** ''Team Titans'' ''ComicBook/TeamTitans'' makes no sense towards the end, as it is vaguely revealed that the team and its creation were all lies created by renegade Titan Hawk/Monarch. The "true purpose" of the team was supposed to be revealed in ''ComicBook/ZeroHour'', ''ComicBook/ZeroHourCrisisInTime'', but little was revealed and outside of Terra II and Mirage (and the Team Titans who were existing Titan characters hanging around), the entire team was wiped out of existence with zero build-up or follow-up when their timeline got nuked.
** Terra II and her origin is another one, along with Amanda Connor's ''ComicBook/{{Terra}}'' mini-series that focused on the third Terra, as well as Brad Meltzer's aborted storyline involving Deathstroke and Terra's half-brother Geo-Force in ''Justice League of America''.''ComicBook/JusticeLeagueOfAmerica''. Interviews with the writers had to sort things out as far as explaining away the entire thing, due to the comics offering no answers: Terra II was a soldier from a non-humanoid subterranean kingdom who took Terra's form under the (unknowing) notion that the surface world would accept her as an emissary if she looked like a fallen "hero" (the kingdom did not know Terra was a traitor). Time Trapper got a hold of her and mindwiped her, then planted her in a future timeline that Monarch was using to raise the Team Titans as his private evil army. Deathstroke later stole the original Terra's body so he could duplicate the process of how Terra got her powers. Deathstroke used his knowledge to force his half-sister's powers onto Geo-Force, knowing he would not be able to control them. To further torment Brion, Slade also implied that the powers would eventually drive him insane "like his sister", as Slade then claimed Terra only went evil because of her powers affecting her mind and the mind control serum he used on Batgirl Cassandra Caine Cain not working well together and causing irreversible madness. Slade wanted Geo-Force to betray the Justice League for him but Geo-Force stopped Slade and (off-panel) it was revealed that everything Slade said to Brion about Terra was lies designed to terrorize Brion and further manipulate him into serving Slade lest he go insane from his newfound powers. And Terra III? After Terra II died at the hand of Black Adam in ''52'', ''ComicBook/FiftyTwo'', the princess of the underground kingdom underwent a similar process to make her human though with a completely different appearance.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


** Incarnations are basically [[spoiler: host full of hate + power source. However, the incarnations plot required the previous Lord of Dark to have a main host that can best be described as "Odio Prime" which os where Oersted comes into the picture.

to:

** Incarnations are basically [[spoiler: host full of hate + power source. However, the incarnations plot required the previous Lord of Dark to have a main host that can best be described as "Odio Prime" which os where Oersted comes into the picture.picture]].
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

** The statues were made [[spoiler: by the original Lord Of Dark who could see into both the past and the future as part of later plots]].
** Incarnations are basically [[spoiler: host full of hate + power source. However, the incarnations plot required the previous Lord of Dark to have a main host that can best be described as "Odio Prime" which os where Oersted comes into the picture.
** Streighbough is [[spoiler: NOT an incarnation so much as someone channeling Odio's power to his own ends, like Mattias. The channeling most likely starting at the statue]].
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* ''VideoGame/LiveALive'' received its screw driver in an event in ''VideoGame/OctopathTravelerChampionsOfTheContinent'' which answers many unexplained questions in the Middle Ages chapter. This event is canon in the sense that Umineko's Confession of the Golden Witch is canon.
** Althea [[spoiler: would have eventually had mutual feelings towards Oersted if not for Streighbough's actions]].
** Live A Live is implied to take place in the same multiverse as Octopath Traveler. The main connecting point being that [[spoiler: Odio is connected to Galdera via an unknown way]].
** [[spoiler: Odio and Oersted are not the same person. Odio was the original Lord of Dark]].
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* The second ''VideoGame/CalmereNightmare'' map explains that at the end of the first map, [[spoiler:[[GoMadFromTheRevelation the protagonist went insane]], meaning that we were watching the ending ThroughTheEyesOfMadness]].
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* ''Website/ThatGuyWithTheGlasses'' takes place in its own fictional universe, with the reviewers playing avatars of themselves, ''WebVideo/TheAngryVideoGameNerd'' and ''WebVideo/TheSpoonyExperiment''. At the end of the fourth year anniversary, reveals a void called the PlotHole which in it removed all logical continuity. So literally any unrealistic thing, or paradox can happen and it would make perfect sense in their universe. (Despite all that happened long before the plot hole appeared, so literally asking questions about the logic in that universe is pointless now. Because there is none.)

to:

* ''Website/ThatGuyWithTheGlasses'' ''Website/ChannelAwesome'' takes place in its own fictional universe, with the reviewers playing avatars of themselves, ''WebVideo/TheAngryVideoGameNerd'' and ''WebVideo/TheSpoonyExperiment''. At the end of the fourth year anniversary, reveals a void called the PlotHole which in it removed all logical continuity. So literally any unrealistic thing, or paradox can happen and it would make perfect sense in their universe. (Despite all that happened long before the plot hole appeared, so literally asking questions about the logic in that universe is pointless now. Because there is none.)

Added: 520

Changed: 4574

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Updating Link, Alphabatizing


* ''ComicBook/TheIncredibleHulk'': Issue #34 of ''ComicBook/ImmortalHulk'' serves as this for not just the run itself but the series in general, running through its entire history [[PerspectiveFlip from the perspective]] of the BigBad and, in doing so, tying together countless disparate plot points and providing vital context to a lot of what's been happening. By the end, there are still some unanswered questions and things left ambiguous, but you have a much better handle on what the Hulk is actually dealing with.



* ''Team Titans'' makes no sense towards the end, as it is vaguely revealed that the team and its creation was all lies created by renegade Titan Hawk/Monarch. The "true purpose" of the team was supposed to be revealed in ''Zero Hour'', but little was revealed and outside of Terra II and Mirage (and the Team Titans who were existing Titan characters hanging around), the entire team was wiped out of existence with zero build-up or follow-up when their timeline got nuked.
** Terra II and her origin is another one, along with the Amanda Connor's ''Terra'' mini-series that focused on the third Terra, as well as Brad Meltzer's aborted storyline involving Deathstroke and Terra's half-brother Geo-Force in ''Justice League of America''. Interviews with the writers had to sort things out as far as explaining away the entire thing, due to the comics offering no answers: Terra II was a soldier from a non-humanoid subterranian kingdom who took Terra's form under the (unknowing) notion that the surface world would accept her as an emissary if she looked like a fallen "hero" (the kingdom did not know Terra was a traitor). Time Trapper got a hold of her and mindwiped her, then planted her in a future timeline that Monarch was using to raise the Team Titans as his private evil army. Deathstroke later stole the original Terra's body so he could duplicate the process of how Terra got her powers. Deathstroke used his knowledge to force his half-sister's powers onto Geo-Force, knowing he would not be able to control them. To further torment Brion, Slade also implied that the powers would eventually drive him insane "like his sister", as Slade then claimed Terra only went evil because of her powers affecting her mind and the mind control serum he used on Batgirl Cassandra Caine not working well together and causing irreversible madness. Slade wanted Geo-Force to betray the Justice League for him but Geo-Force stopped Slade and (off-panel) it was revealed that everything Slade said to Brion about Terra was lies designed to terrorize Brion and further manipulate him into serving Slade lest he go insane from his newfound powers. And Terra III? After Terra II died at the hand of Black Adam in ''52'', the princess of the undergound kingdom underwent a similar process to make her human though with a completely different appearance.
* Issue 34 of ''ComicBook/ImmortalHulk'' serves as this for not just the run itself but [[Franchise/TheIncredibleHulk the series in general]], running through it's entire history [[PerspectiveFlip from the perspective]] of the BigBad and, in doing so, tying together countless disparate plot points and providing vital context to a lot of what's been happening. By the end, there's still some unanswered questions and things left ambiguous, but you have a much better handle on what the Hulk is actually dealing with.

to:

* ''ComicBook/TeenTitans'':
**
''Team Titans'' makes no sense towards the end, as it is vaguely revealed that the team and its creation was were all lies created by renegade Titan Hawk/Monarch. The "true purpose" of the team was supposed to be revealed in ''Zero Hour'', ''ComicBook/ZeroHour'', but little was revealed and outside of Terra II and Mirage (and the Team Titans who were existing Titan characters hanging around), the entire team was wiped out of existence with zero build-up or follow-up when their timeline got nuked.
** Terra II and her origin is another one, along with the Amanda Connor's ''Terra'' ''ComicBook/{{Terra}}'' mini-series that focused on the third Terra, as well as Brad Meltzer's aborted storyline involving Deathstroke and Terra's half-brother Geo-Force in ''Justice League of America''. Interviews with the writers had to sort things out as far as explaining away the entire thing, due to the comics offering no answers: Terra II was a soldier from a non-humanoid subterranian subterranean kingdom who took Terra's form under the (unknowing) notion that the surface world would accept her as an emissary if she looked like a fallen "hero" (the kingdom did not know Terra was a traitor). Time Trapper got a hold of her and mindwiped her, then planted her in a future timeline that Monarch was using to raise the Team Titans as his private evil army. Deathstroke later stole the original Terra's body so he could duplicate the process of how Terra got her powers. Deathstroke used his knowledge to force his half-sister's powers onto Geo-Force, knowing he would not be able to control them. To further torment Brion, Slade also implied that the powers would eventually drive him insane "like his sister", as Slade then claimed Terra only went evil because of her powers affecting her mind and the mind control serum he used on Batgirl Cassandra Caine not working well together and causing irreversible madness. Slade wanted Geo-Force to betray the Justice League for him but Geo-Force stopped Slade and (off-panel) it was revealed that everything Slade said to Brion about Terra was lies designed to terrorize Brion and further manipulate him into serving Slade lest he go insane from his newfound powers. And Terra III? After Terra II died at the hand of Black Adam in ''52'', the princess of the undergound underground kingdom underwent a similar process to make her human though with a completely different appearance.
* Issue 34 of ''ComicBook/ImmortalHulk'' serves as this for not just the run itself but [[Franchise/TheIncredibleHulk the series in general]], running through it's entire history [[PerspectiveFlip from the perspective]] of the BigBad and, in doing so, tying together countless disparate plot points and providing vital context to a lot of what's been happening. By the end, there's still some unanswered questions and things left ambiguous, but you have a much better handle on what the Hulk is actually dealing with.
appearance.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* Issue 34 of ''ComicBook/ImmortalHulk'' serves as this for not just the run itself but [[Franchise/TheIncredibleHulk the series in general]], running through it's entire history [[PerspectiveFlip from the perspective]] of the BigBad and, in doing so, tying together countless disparate plot points and providing vital context to a lot of what's been happening. By the end, there's still some unanswered questions and things left ambiguous, but you have a much better handle on what the Hulk is actually dealing with.


Added DiffLines:

* ''Literature/TheSoundAndTheFury'' is a fascinating example in that each section of the book serves as a Mind Screwdriver for the previous section, with the narrative becoming more coherent with each change in narrator/perspective. It starts out extremely hard to decipher due to being written from the POV of a severely mentally disabled man [[StylisticSuck who moves in and out of flashbacks without warning nor exposition]]. Then it becomes a little easier to understand but still challenging due to the narrator being a young man in the midst of a nervous breakdown whose style of thought becomes [[PaintingTheMedium increasingly strange]] as [[SanitySlippage his mind crumbles]]. The third section sees the writing suddenly become coherent by switching to the view of a functional grown man, with the only challenging elements being [[VillainProtagonist his extremely unlikable nature]], self-absorbed ignorance of others, and tendency to derail things with nihilistic cynicism and denigration of the people around him. Next we get to the point of view of the book's [[OnlySaneMan only sane woman]] and things get downright sensible, as she reflects on the situations the cast are involved in, writes and speaks intelligently, and generally plays the role of a neutral observer who gives the reader an objective source of information. Finally it all caps off with an appendix that ties off all the loose ends, answers the remaining questions, and provides much-needed context.
* The whole final chapter of ''Literature/AndThenThereWereNone'' is dedicated to explaining what the hell all just happened by recapping the events of the book from the killer's perspective.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* The final ending of ''VideoGame/TheBindingOfIsaac'', Ending 20 of Afterbirth+, has [[spoiler:Isaac in his toy chest, his life flashing before him. You hear his mom and dad arguing, and see a shot of Isaac watching his mother cry in front of her TV. As Isaac begins to turn blue from lack of oxygen, we see Isaac holding a family photo with his dad's face burned away, with other photos that have received the same treatment and (perhaps most heart-wrenching of all) a series of Isaac's drawings, showing his descent into self-loathing and suicidal insanity (BAD BAD BAD I'M THE DEVIL). Finally, we see a shot of Isaac's skeleton within the chest as his mother opens it, and the missing poster from Ending 15 flies away, symbolizing Isaac's demise. The final shot of the ending is Isaac walking through the afterlife from Ending 17, while a somber remix of the title theme plays]]. To clarify the entire thing, [[spoiler:the entire game has been Isaac's DyingDream as he suffocated to death in the toy chest that he locked himself into]]. [[DownerEnding It's a depressing note to end things on]], but given the nature of the game in general, it's all too appropriate.

to:

* The final ending of ''VideoGame/TheBindingOfIsaac'', Ending 20 of Afterbirth+, has [[spoiler:Isaac in his toy chest, his life flashing before him. You hear his mom and dad arguing, and see a shot of Isaac watching his mother cry in front of her TV. As Isaac begins to turn blue from lack of oxygen, we see Isaac holding a family photo with his dad's face burned away, with other photos that have received the same treatment and (perhaps most heart-wrenching of all) a series of Isaac's drawings, showing his descent into self-loathing and suicidal insanity (BAD BAD BAD I'M THE DEVIL). Finally, we see a shot of Isaac's skeleton within the chest as his mother opens it, and the missing poster from Ending 15 flies away, symbolizing Isaac's demise. The final shot of the ending is Isaac walking through the afterlife from Ending 17, while a somber remix of the title theme plays]]. To clarify the entire thing, [[spoiler:the entire game has been Isaac's DyingDream as he suffocated to death in the toy chest that he locked himself into]]. [[DownerEnding It's a depressing note to end things on]], but given the nature of the game in general, it's all too appropriate. The next DLC, Repentance, changes it to more of a BittersweetEnding though.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* A couple years after the first game in the ''[[VideoGame/GadgetPastAsFuture Gadget]]'' series, ''Invention, Travel, and Adventure'', was released, a tie-in art book called ''Inside Out with Gadget'' was published. Whereas the game deliberately didn't explain almost anything in order to create an uncomfortable atmosphere, the book gives more context to the setting, some character motivations, and timeline; for example, explaining how the titular gadgets were powered, Orlovsky's plans for the Empire, and how the Sensorama was created and used as a brainwashing machine. Some of these additions by the book would go on to be referenced in ''Past as Future'', which was a remake of the first game, such as how the [[CreepyChild mysterious boy]] was once put into the hospital, and that the substance used to create the gadgets was mined from a meteor. However, the art book seemingly cannot be used to completely explain either game's story, as there are plot points that are never referenced in either game, like Horselover Frost possibly being an InventedIndividual and Orlovsky being murdered by Louis Hausmann, meaning that ''Inside Out'' was likely meant to tell its own self-contained story much like the other tie-in novel, ''The Third Force'', and it can only be used to explain the games to a certain point.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* In the ending of ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaTwilightPrincess'', after being defeated, [[BigBad Ganondorf]] stands back up, and, while [[ImpaledWithExtremePrejudice grievously wounded]], expresses a desire to continue the fight. Suddenly, the [[MarkOfTheSupernatural mark of the Triforce]] on his hand goes out. Cut to [[DiscOneFinalBoss Zant]], who jerks his head to the side with a NeckSnap sound. Cut back to Ganondorf, who abruptly dies. [[Manga/TheLegendOfZeldaTwilightPrincess2016 The game's official manga adaptation]] explains Ganon's thoughts in more detail: the Triforce of Power left him because he willing deactivated it, choosing to [[BetterToDieThanBeKilled die on his own terms]] rather than accept the harmony of the three Triforces existing in balance. His last words weren't because he was still fighting right now, but because he knows he'll come back AsLongAsThereIsEvil. Zant... is addressed by not adapting his last scene.

to:

* In the ending of ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaTwilightPrincess'', after being defeated, [[BigBad Ganondorf]] stands back up, and, while [[ImpaledWithExtremePrejudice grievously wounded]], expresses a desire to continue the fight. Suddenly, the [[MarkOfTheSupernatural mark of the Triforce]] on his hand goes out. Cut to [[DiscOneFinalBoss Zant]], who jerks his head to the side with a NeckSnap sound. Cut back to Ganondorf, who abruptly dies. [[Manga/TheLegendOfZeldaTwilightPrincess2016 The game's official manga adaptation]] explains Ganon's thoughts in more detail: the Triforce of Power left him because he willing willingly deactivated it, choosing to [[BetterToDieThanBeKilled die on his own terms]] rather than accept the harmony of the three Triforces existing in balance. His last words weren't because he was still fighting right now, but because he knows he'll come back AsLongAsThereIsEvil. Zant... is addressed by not adapting his last scene.

Top