History Main / MedievalStasis

22nd Aug '16 4:17:08 PM nombretomado
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** In the ''{{Elenium}}'', soldiers summoned from the ancient past use Bronze Age armor and weapons.

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** In the ''{{Elenium}}'', ''Literature/TheElenium'', soldiers summoned from the ancient past use Bronze Age armor and weapons.
21st Aug '16 11:00:45 AM nombretomado
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* ''{{Nodwick}}'' also suggests that a time traveler's mistake knocked society back to a medievel level from which it never recovered, magic is there but used by very few, which contributes to the problem.
* ''{{Drowtales}}'' plays this trope straight concerning the technology, but there is a slow cultural, social and political evolution during the 1000 years of the moonless age. for example, great clans rise and fall, the faith in Sharess was strong, but is now challenged by demonic worshipping.

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* ''{{Nodwick}}'' ''Webcomic/{{Nodwick}}'' also suggests that a time traveler's mistake knocked society back to a medievel level from which it never recovered, magic is there but used by very few, which contributes to the problem.
* ''{{Drowtales}}'' plays this ''Webcomic/{{Drowtales}}'':
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trope is played straight concerning the technology, but there is a slow cultural, social and political evolution during the 1000 years of the moonless age. for example, great clans rise and fall, the faith in Sharess was strong, but is now challenged by demonic worshipping.
9th Aug '16 5:03:31 AM Morgenthaler
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* During the union times, and before modern communication and roads, {{Norway}} came out as incredibly stable. Firearms aside, the farmlands continued to work out things after medieval fashion for centuries. Thus, iron age attitudes lasted among them all the way to 1830. In some remote areas, a proper country road or a railway was the changing factor. Natural household, as opposed to money household, was the rule rather than not in the period, as were the use of the old norse ''thing'' to settle disputes.

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* During the union times, and before modern communication and roads, {{Norway}} UsefulNotes/{{Norway}} came out as incredibly stable. Firearms aside, the farmlands continued to work out things after medieval fashion for centuries. Thus, iron age attitudes lasted among them all the way to 1830. In some remote areas, a proper country road or a railway was the changing factor. Natural household, as opposed to money household, was the rule rather than not in the period, as were the use of the old norse ''thing'' to settle disputes.
24th Jul '16 2:23:18 PM ImpudentInfidel
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* In ''Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire'', technology hasn't advanced in any significant way during the last couple of millennia. The author has hinted that there's a sinister, plot-important reason why technology has stagnated. Several characters also point out that history books tend to inflate numbers and use anachronistic terms, suggesting that historical events weren't as distant or as medieval as they're described.

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* In ''Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire'', technology hasn't advanced in any significant way during the last couple of millennia. The author has hinted that there's a sinister, plot-important reason why technology has stagnated. Several characters also point out that history books tend to inflate numbers and use anachronistic terms, suggesting that historical events weren't as distant or as medieval as they're described. Politically, in Westeros at least, the same families ruled roughly the same territories from the same castles for millenia, from prehistory until the present day. The youngest of the major houses were put in place when the truly ancient ones they replaced died off a few centuries before the "present day" of the series.
20th Jul '16 1:27:23 PM sharkerbob
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* The far future world of ''TabletopGame/Numenera'' features many weird locations throughout its universe. One such setting is the Gloaming, a solar-system-sized disc with a star in the center, inhabited by millions of worlds worth of creatures within a (relatively) narrow band of the disc. Countless intelligent species and societies living within the disc, no matter their apparently capability, have managed to remain in a low-tech, medieval society for apparently thousands of years. This is in part due to the influence of psychically empowered aliens, who wish to feed on the inhabitants, and find a low-tech, culturally simple world much easier to control.

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* The far future world of ''TabletopGame/Numenera'' Numenera features many weird locations throughout its universe. One such setting is the Gloaming, a solar-system-sized disc with a star in the center, inhabited by millions of worlds worth of creatures within a (relatively) narrow band of the disc. Countless intelligent species and societies living within the disc, no matter their apparently capability, have managed to remain in a low-tech, medieval society for apparently thousands of years. This is in part due to the influence of psychically empowered aliens, who wish to feed on the inhabitants, and find a low-tech, culturally simple world much easier to control.
20th Jul '16 1:25:24 PM sharkerbob
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*The far future world of ''TabletopGame/Numenera'' features many weird locations throughout its universe. One such setting is the Gloaming, a solar-system-sized disc with a star in the center, inhabited by millions of worlds worth of creatures within a (relatively) narrow band of the disc. Countless intelligent species and societies living within the disc, no matter their apparently capability, have managed to remain in a low-tech, medieval society for apparently thousands of years. This is in part due to the influence of psychically empowered aliens, who wish to feed on the inhabitants, and find a low-tech, culturally simple world much easier to control.
3rd Jul '16 1:54:22 PM IanK
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* In the classic ''Series/StarTrekTheOriginalSeries'' episode "Errand of Mercy". The Organians live with medieval technology and have absolutely no interest in help developing from TheFederation or [[EvilEmpire the Klingons]]. [[SubvertedTrope Subverted]] in that the Organians are actually advanced EnergyBeings who simply have no need for technology anymore and the town was just a front so they could interact with physical beings.

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* ''Series/StarTrekTheOriginalSeries''
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In the classic ''Series/StarTrekTheOriginalSeries'' episode "Errand of Mercy". The Mercy" Spock mistakenly concluded that because the Organians live with medieval technology and have absolutely no interest in help developing from TheFederation or [[EvilEmpire the Klingons]]. Klingons]] they were subject to this trope. [[SubvertedTrope Subverted]] in that the Organians are actually advanced EnergyBeings who simply have no need for technology anymore and the town was just a front so they could interact with physical beings.beings.
** Episodes like "Return of the Archons" and "The Apple" had this enforced on the native populations by the technology of earlier, more advanced generations.



* In ''Series/StarTrekTheOriginalSeries'', Spock mistakenly concluded the Organians were this. In fact, they were SufficientlyAdvancedAliens who only assumed a humanoid form for the benefit of visitors.
** Episodes like "Return of the Archons" and "The Apple" had this enforced on the native populations by the technology of earlier, more advanced generations.
30th Jun '16 8:06:26 PM nombretomado
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* ''{{Bionicle}}'''s planet of Bara Magna. Following a literal EarthShatteringKaboom, during which the planet Spherus Magna split into three, the society of the desert region-turned-planet found itself in shambles. They created a system in which disputes over resources would be settled with gladiator matches, and when the story continues 100000 years later, nothing is any different--even most of the ''people'' are still the same, thanks to their [[WeAreAsMayflies long-ass lifespans]]. Characters who were treated as inexperienced youngsters a hundred millennia ago are still seen as such. Super-powerful beings still continue their war that to the rest of the planet is only a memory. Some people, like Vastus, still feel guilty over what they've done in that war. True, the Iron Tribe died out and at some point the Skrall Tribe moved from the Northern mountains to the desert, but that's pretty much it. Society and technology never moved an inch forward, even though the characters built high-tech implants into themselves and had the war-machines of old to study.

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* ''{{Bionicle}}'''s ''Toys/{{Bionicle}}'''s planet of Bara Magna. Following a literal EarthShatteringKaboom, during which the planet Spherus Magna split into three, the society of the desert region-turned-planet found itself in shambles. They created a system in which disputes over resources would be settled with gladiator matches, and when the story continues 100000 years later, nothing is any different--even most of the ''people'' are still the same, thanks to their [[WeAreAsMayflies long-ass lifespans]]. Characters who were treated as inexperienced youngsters a hundred millennia ago are still seen as such. Super-powerful beings still continue their war that to the rest of the planet is only a memory. Some people, like Vastus, still feel guilty over what they've done in that war. True, the Iron Tribe died out and at some point the Skrall Tribe moved from the Northern mountains to the desert, but that's pretty much it. Society and technology never moved an inch forward, even though the characters built high-tech implants into themselves and had the war-machines of old to study.
18th Jun '16 11:47:54 PM nombretomado
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* [[EnforcedTrope Enforced]] by Rokugan's ruling samurai caste in ''LegendOfTheFiveRings''. Technology and magic are both very stringently regulated, with a strong cultural emphasis on the "Celestial Order."

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* [[EnforcedTrope Enforced]] by Rokugan's ruling samurai caste in ''LegendOfTheFiveRings''.''TabletopGame/LegendOfTheFiveRings''. Technology and magic are both very stringently regulated, with a strong cultural emphasis on the "Celestial Order."
11th Jun '16 10:41:35 AM Morgenthaler
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* This is a common complaint/question about ''TheChroniclesOfNarnia''. Without even worrying about, say, the decades between ''The Voyage of the Dawn Treader'' and ''The Silver Chair''--a ''thousand'' years pass between ''The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe'' and ''Prince Caspian'', and seven generations between ''The Silver Chair'' and ''The Last Battle''. Technological achievement consists of one channel dug at Cair Paravel and one bridge built at Beruna. (Of course, this is one of those aggressively nostalgic cases where development is actively opposed by the protagonists and anyone who tries it gets put down in a hurry. Caspian actually says as much in ''Dawn Treader''--the issue is slavery, but they're talking in general terms. Even the author/narrator, when he's writing about our world, is always dropping in things like how sweets used to be cheaper and kids don't know to swear on the Bible anymore, and Eustace's liberal, modern upbringing is described basically as code to show that he's going to be an unsympathetic jerk. There are also a couple of technological anachronisms in Narnia, like Mrs. Beaver's sewing machine, to combine the medieval and twentieth-century nostalgia. Sewing machines good, Plumptree's Vitaminized Nerve Food bad.)

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* This is a common complaint/question about ''TheChroniclesOfNarnia''.''Literature/TheChroniclesOfNarnia''. Without even worrying about, say, the decades between ''The Voyage of the Dawn Treader'' and ''The Silver Chair''--a ''thousand'' years pass between ''The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe'' and ''Prince Caspian'', and seven generations between ''The Silver Chair'' and ''The Last Battle''. Technological achievement consists of one channel dug at Cair Paravel and one bridge built at Beruna. (Of course, this is one of those aggressively nostalgic cases where development is actively opposed by the protagonists and anyone who tries it gets put down in a hurry. Caspian actually says as much in ''Dawn Treader''--the issue is slavery, but they're talking in general terms. Even the author/narrator, when he's writing about our world, is always dropping in things like how sweets used to be cheaper and kids don't know to swear on the Bible anymore, and Eustace's liberal, modern upbringing is described basically as code to show that he's going to be an unsympathetic jerk. There are also a couple of technological anachronisms in Narnia, like Mrs. Beaver's sewing machine, to combine the medieval and twentieth-century nostalgia. Sewing machines good, Plumptree's Vitaminized Nerve Food bad.)



* ''{{Redwall}}'''s world doesn't seem to have evolved at all in twenty books covering several hundred years. Maybe it's because they're all too busy dealing with the rapidly-breeding vermin threat to have time to invent much.

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* ''{{Redwall}}'''s ''Literature/{{Redwall}}'''s world doesn't seem to have evolved at all in twenty books covering several hundred years. Maybe it's because they're all too busy dealing with the rapidly-breeding vermin threat to have time to invent much.



* Somewhat toyed with in the ''SwordOfTruth'' series. In ''Naked Empire'', the protagonists discover the Empire of Bandakar, made up of the descendants of [[AntiMagic pristinely ungifted]] D'Haran exiles, which was sealed behind an Underworld barrier for over three thousand years. One Bandakaran, Owen, leads them past an Imperial Order occupation force to their capital city. When he proudly presents their great financial and cultural center, all Richard and Kahlan see is a city block full of tiny shops with studio apartments built above them. Richard even asks, "This is all your great culture has achieved in 3,000 years?", while a flummoxed Owen clearly thinks that the block of two-story shacks is up there with CrystalSpiresAndTogas. As for the rest of the world, the trope is more played straight, as the ancient world had thousands of mages serving the people's needs and as they gradually died out, the idea of using technology to fill the niche they left behind hasn't quite caught on yet.

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* Somewhat toyed with in the ''SwordOfTruth'' ''Literature/SwordOfTruth'' series. In ''Naked Empire'', the protagonists discover the Empire of Bandakar, made up of the descendants of [[AntiMagic pristinely ungifted]] D'Haran exiles, which was sealed behind an Underworld barrier for over three thousand years. One Bandakaran, Owen, leads them past an Imperial Order occupation force to their capital city. When he proudly presents their great financial and cultural center, all Richard and Kahlan see is a city block full of tiny shops with studio apartments built above them. Richard even asks, "This is all your great culture has achieved in 3,000 years?", while a flummoxed Owen clearly thinks that the block of two-story shacks is up there with CrystalSpiresAndTogas. As for the rest of the world, the trope is more played straight, as the ancient world had thousands of mages serving the people's needs and as they gradually died out, the idea of using technology to fill the niche they left behind hasn't quite caught on yet.



* In Creator/MikhailAkhmanov's ''[[ArrivalsFromTheDark Envoy from the Heavens]]'', Ivar Trevelian works for a human agency dedicated towards studying and advancing pre-space humanoid races. Ivar is sent to a planet that has been stuck in the Middle Ages for centuries with no drive for progress or discovery, mostly due to the political situation on the settled continent being remarkably stable. He infiltrates the society as a WanderingMinstrel and soon finds out that, for various reasons, this society frowns upon attempts to change the status quo with radical new ideas. For example, when Ivar suggests an idea for a saddle for [[CallASmeerpARabbit horses]] to a soldier to ride them instead of using chariots, the soldier looks horrified at the idea of doing this to such majestic creatures. Attempts to build steam engines often result in them exploding, which the natives use to conclude that they are bad. There is a whole undiscovered continent in the other hemisphere, but the natives believe that their world is [[FlatWorld flat]], surrounded by a ring of their head god. Attempting to reach this ring by boat may anger the god with consequences for everyone. Because of this, no one has ever attempted to sail this far. In the end, though, it turns out that [[spoiler:another alien race is deliberately causing MedievalStasis on this world, although they insist that their AlienNonInterferenceClause prevents them from doing so. Instead, they merely observe and keep humans from interfering]].

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* In Creator/MikhailAkhmanov's ''[[ArrivalsFromTheDark ''[[Literature/ArrivalsFromTheDark Envoy from the Heavens]]'', Ivar Trevelian works for a human agency dedicated towards studying and advancing pre-space humanoid races. Ivar is sent to a planet that has been stuck in the Middle Ages for centuries with no drive for progress or discovery, mostly due to the political situation on the settled continent being remarkably stable. He infiltrates the society as a WanderingMinstrel and soon finds out that, for various reasons, this society frowns upon attempts to change the status quo with radical new ideas. For example, when Ivar suggests an idea for a saddle for [[CallASmeerpARabbit horses]] to a soldier to ride them instead of using chariots, the soldier looks horrified at the idea of doing this to such majestic creatures. Attempts to build steam engines often result in them exploding, which the natives use to conclude that they are bad. There is a whole undiscovered continent in the other hemisphere, but the natives believe that their world is [[FlatWorld flat]], surrounded by a ring of their head god. Attempting to reach this ring by boat may anger the god with consequences for everyone. Because of this, no one has ever attempted to sail this far. In the end, though, it turns out that [[spoiler:another alien race is deliberately causing MedievalStasis on this world, although they insist that their AlienNonInterferenceClause prevents them from doing so. Instead, they merely observe and keep humans from interfering]].
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