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18th Jul '17 10:17:57 PM Fireblood
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* ''{{Film/Timeline}}'': {{Discussed}} when the group is trying to escape and Chris claims their modern knowledge is enough that they can surely outthink medieval people. It's quickly {{subverted}} however, since those people are no dumber than them and (being from the era) have a lot of ''advantages'' regarding knowledge. They only barely manage to escape.
16th Jun '17 10:41:42 PM nombretomado
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* ''BillAndTedsExcellentAdventure''. No matter where they went in history, no matter which historical figure they abducted, nobody really seemed to care that they'd fallen out of the sky in a phone booth and absconded with [[Music/LudwigVanBeethoven Beethoven]]. That is of course until they ended up in medieval England, where they were [[spoiler:put on the chopping block to the sound of a man screaming that they came from the sky, and just barely escaped with their skins.]] Also subverted in the fact that neither Bill nor Ted are the sharpest knives in the drawer...

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\n* ''BillAndTedsExcellentAdventure''.''Film/BillAndTedsExcellentAdventure''. No matter where they went in history, no matter which historical figure they abducted, nobody really seemed to care that they'd fallen out of the sky in a phone booth and absconded with [[Music/LudwigVanBeethoven Beethoven]]. That is of course until they ended up in medieval England, where they were [[spoiler:put on the chopping block to the sound of a man screaming that they came from the sky, and just barely escaped with their skins.]] Also subverted in the fact that neither Bill nor Ted are the sharpest knives in the drawer...
11th Jun '17 12:00:45 PM nombretomado
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* ''BillAndTedsExcellentAdventure''. No matter where they went in history, no matter which historical figure they abducted, nobody really seemed to care that they'd fallen out of the sky in a phone booth and absconded with [[LudwigVanBeethoven Beethoven]]. That is of course until they ended up in medieval England, where they were [[spoiler:put on the chopping block to the sound of a man screaming that they came from the sky, and just barely escaped with their skins.]] Also subverted in the fact that neither Bill nor Ted are the sharpest knives in the drawer...

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* ''BillAndTedsExcellentAdventure''. No matter where they went in history, no matter which historical figure they abducted, nobody really seemed to care that they'd fallen out of the sky in a phone booth and absconded with [[LudwigVanBeethoven [[Music/LudwigVanBeethoven Beethoven]]. That is of course until they ended up in medieval England, where they were [[spoiler:put on the chopping block to the sound of a man screaming that they came from the sky, and just barely escaped with their skins.]] Also subverted in the fact that neither Bill nor Ted are the sharpest knives in the drawer...
10th May '17 2:23:36 AM althesmith
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* Leadership and occupation in medieval societies were much more dependent on random factors, like what family they were born into. In today's industrialized countries, people are generally are able to seek qualifications and apply for jobs they are talented in and that follow their interests. Therefore, in the everyday working world, the people you run into with skilled positions are more likely to be competent and skilled.

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* Leadership and occupation in medieval societies were much more dependent on random factors, like what family they were born into. In today's industrialized countries, people are generally are able to seek qualifications and apply for jobs they are talented in and that follow their interests. Therefore, in the everyday working world, the people you run into with skilled positions are more likely to be competent and skilled. Although in some areas, as academic requirements in certain fields become more and more expensive to achieve, the ones able to attain said qualifications are likely to already belong to the upper classes.
13th Apr '17 2:24:27 AM Chabal2
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* ''Series/{{Kaamelott}}'' is based almost entirely on this, with KingArthur as the OnlySaneMan due to his Roman upbringing. His knights are forever bickering about finding the Grail instead of looking for it, his father-in-law builds a catapult in the main courtyard and wants to knock down the gate so it can be taken outside, and then you have Guethenoc and Roparzh, two peasants with a mutual case of SitcomArchNemesis who don't mind setting fire to half the land or poisoning most of the livestock to get back at each other despite it meaning starvation for them and the rest of the country.

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* ''Series/{{Kaamelott}}'' is based almost entirely on this, with KingArthur as the OnlySaneMan due to his Roman upbringing. His knights are forever bickering about finding the Grail instead of looking for it, his father-in-law builds a catapult in the main courtyard and wants to knock down the gate so it can be taken outside, and then you have Guethenoc and Roparzh, two peasants with a mutual case of SitcomArchNemesis who don't mind setting fire to half the land or poisoning most of the livestock to get back at each other despite it meaning starvation for them and the rest of the country.
country. Lancelot's betrayal isn't even due to kidnapping the queen [[spoiler:she leaves of her own accord, to Arthur's delight]], it's because the knights are as bad as the peasants so he sets up his own army. The fact that his soldiers are just as inept as Kaamelott's never seems to occur to him.




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* ''TabletopGame/WarhammerFantasy'': Peasants in the Empire and Bretonnia are seen as this by the nobles. Some of them are indeed this (whether through inbreeding, aristocratic oppression or superstitions that lead to burning the state-approved wizard because they can't read his papers and don't want to bother finding someone who can). It doesn't help that in some areas, the smarter peasants know that getting the nobs involved in matters of justice only leads to more trouble for everyone involved, so they ObfuscateStupidity, perpetuating the stereotype among aristocracy that peasants are clumsy oafs capable of accidentally stabbing themselves in the back with a scythe seventeen times.
23rd Mar '17 9:47:52 PM Fireblood
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\n* Averted in the short story ''Death in Vesunna'' by Creator/HarryTurtledove, where two time travelers in the late Roman Empire murder someone with a gun to steal a lost book worth millions which they can then sell to future collectors. They're confident none of the locals will be able to figure out how he died before they can go back. However, the local Roman equivalent of the police chief, along with his physician friend, successfully deduce what happened and catch them.
4th Mar '17 10:52:48 AM nombretomado
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* OlderThanRadio: ''Literature/AConnecticutYankeeInKingArthursCourt''. Of course, [[SeinfeldIsUnfunny the trope was new]] when MarkTwain used it, and he was trying to portray the [[AristocratsAreEvil evils of aristocracy]]. Still, it's exaggerated and unhistorical, with most of the characters just generally acting TooDumbToLive. He was also satirizing the excessively poetic and romantic portrayals of Arthurian legend that were popular at the time--by pointing out that, had Arthur and his knights actually behaved as they were typically portrayed, they would have had to have been absolutely childlike morons.

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* OlderThanRadio: ''Literature/AConnecticutYankeeInKingArthursCourt''. Of course, [[SeinfeldIsUnfunny the trope was new]] when MarkTwain Creator/MarkTwain used it, and he was trying to portray the [[AristocratsAreEvil evils of aristocracy]]. Still, it's exaggerated and unhistorical, with most of the characters just generally acting TooDumbToLive. He was also satirizing the excessively poetic and romantic portrayals of Arthurian legend that were popular at the time--by pointing out that, had Arthur and his knights actually behaved as they were typically portrayed, they would have had to have been absolutely childlike morons.
1st Mar '17 11:13:15 AM CurledUpWithDakka
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:: All of this combined results in some scholars viewing the Renaissance not as the end of the medieval period, but as the ''result'' of it.

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:: All **All of this combined results in some scholars viewing the Renaissance not as the end of the medieval period, but as the ''result'' of it.
1st Mar '17 10:33:42 AM eroock
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->''Your average peasant had the IQ of an extremely rotten tree stump and the common sense of a very small lump of mud....''
-->--'''Top Ten Horror Stories'''

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19th Jan '17 1:15:59 PM DoctorDetective
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* Parodied in ''WesternAnimation/{{Futurama}}''. Characters from TheFuture commonly refer to the 20th century as "The Stupid Ages." Leela even tells Fry that being a drop-out of a 20th-century college means nothing in their time, so Fry ends up enrolling in a college in order to drop-out properly.

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* Parodied in ''WesternAnimation/{{Futurama}}''. Characters from TheFuture commonly refer to the 20th century as "The Stupid Ages." Leela even tells Fry that being a drop-out of a 20th-century college means nothing is the equivalent of being a ''high-school'' drop-out in their time, the 31st century, so Fry ends up enrolling in a college in order to drop-out properly.
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