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12th Jan '17 3:05:15 PM roxana
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*** In fact Literature/StarshipTroopers is NOT a 'military democracy' at all but a Democracy in which the right to vote is earned by the equivalent of 'National Service' that may nor may not be military in nature. Such service is completely voluntary but if you ''do'' volunteer you ''must'' be accepted and the system must find or create a job for you to do. You can also resign at any time, the only penalty being you don't get a second chance to earn your franchise. Nobody can either vote or stand for office until after they have retired from their service whatever it is.
20th Dec '16 6:53:37 PM Rhodes7
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* ''Literature/{{Victoria}}'' is presented this way, as a return to and refinement of traditional American life. Technology after the 1930s is informally, but powerfully banned, yet it is a leader in cold fusion and tesla tech, with technology that can disable explosives and firearms at a distance. In particular, computers, television, and cars that can drive more than thirty miles. Black people are banned from raising families in cities, and can be hung for any violent or drug-related crime. Non-Christians are banished, liberal college professors are no more, turn back the clocks on feminism and LGBT-issues and truly remove the federal government. All of this is portrayed as unambiguously good things.
15th Dec '16 3:49:52 AM TheCuza
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* Towards the end of the ''WesternAnimation/SouthPark'' episode "Goobacks," everyone decides to act responsibly to make the future a better place so that people don't have to timegrate back to their time and take their jobs anymore. It works, just like that, and the town is shown becoming a Mary-Suetopia... until the characters realise that "this is really gay" and go back to their old ways.

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* Towards the end of the ''WesternAnimation/SouthPark'' episode "Goobacks," everyone decides to act responsibly to make the future a better place so that people don't have to timegrate back to their time and take their jobs anymore. It works, just like that, and the town is shown becoming a Mary-Suetopia... until the characters realise that "this is really gay" and go back to their old ways.previous plan where all the men have gay sex in a big pile (because even that is still less gay than what they were currently doing).
30th Oct '16 6:09:20 PM SaraJaye
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* ''VideoGame/FireEmblemFates'' has the [[{{Wutai}} Kingdom of Hoshido]]. It is portrayed as a place of great beauty, peace, and prosperity, with a kind and gentle queen leading it, and the people there live comfortable lives. There are less savory aspects of the kingdom, such as the FantasticRacism directed at Azura, but for the most part it's portrayed as a kingdom full of good-natured people.
12th Oct '16 7:16:46 PM WillBGood
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* ''DancesWithWolves'''s merry Sioux are a GaryStu-topia. They're communists, [[FanDisservice have no sexual hangups]], and the sheer amount of male solidarity, while reflecting traditions, is taken to extremes, though ''not'' to the extreme of misogyny. They're also completely friendly to anyone, even the white men trying to kill them, as contrasted with the AlwaysChaoticEvil Pawnee, who even attack their white ''allies''.

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* ''DancesWithWolves'''s [[IncrediblyLamePun merry Sioux Sioux]] are a GaryStu-topia. They're communists, [[FanDisservice have no sexual hangups]], and the sheer amount of male solidarity, while reflecting traditions, is taken to extremes, though ''not'' to the extreme of misogyny. They're also completely friendly to anyone, even the white men trying to kill them, as contrasted with the AlwaysChaoticEvil Pawnee, who even attack their white ''allies''.



** There's also the point that ''no one can ever leave'', making sort of an enforced utopia. The island is completely surrounded by an Eternal Storm, making it impossible to even communicate with the outside world. Fine if you've got nothing left behind. Not so fine if you had any loved one's that were relying on you to support them. Yet no-one ever seems to think of this or mind. Even the one rebellious human, Lee Crabb, just wants out for no reason beyond disliking dinosaurs. Well, that and the enforced vegetarianism since every single living thing on the island is inexplicably sentient.

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** There's also the point that ''no one can ever leave'', making sort of an enforced utopia. The island is completely surrounded by an Eternal Storm, making it impossible to even communicate with the outside world. Fine if you've got nothing left behind. Not so fine if you had any loved one's ones that were relying on you to support them. Yet no-one ever seems to think of this or mind. Even the one rebellious human, Lee Crabb, just wants out for no reason beyond disliking dinosaurs. Well, that and the enforced vegetarianism since every single living thing on the island is inexplicably sentient.
16th Sep '16 10:06:19 PM Godzillawolf
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* In general, a lot of ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'' fanfic portray Equestria in this fashion, despite the fact that the show itself heavily stresses the flaws its characters possess and the conflicts that stem from these flaws (not to mention the frequency of evil being that show up). It can be especially blatant in the cases of authors who project their own ideologies into the setting.

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* In general, a lot of ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'' fanfic portray Equestria in this fashion, despite the fact that the show itself heavily stresses the flaws its characters possess and the conflicts that stem from these flaws (not to mention the frequency of evil being that show up). It can be especially blatant in the cases of authors who project their own ideologies into the setting. Also ''inverted'' by some other fanfics that ignore the canon flaws of the society and view the ''canon'' Equestria as this and try to 'fix' it by adding flaws.
29th Aug '16 8:04:41 PM Omeganian
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* The Asari Republics in ''VideoGame/MassEffect'' are the most culturally and scientifically advanced civilization in the galaxy. Their government has the greatest democracy, an extremely low level of wars, famine, or crime. As well as having a very powerful economy. Its people the Asari are universally gorgeous women who can mate with anyone, can live to be a thousand years old, and are all biotics.
29th Aug '16 4:11:52 AM PlasmaTalon
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* The Asari Republics in ''VideoGame/MassEffect'' are the most culturally and scientifically advanced civilization in the galaxy. Their government has the greatest democracy, an extremely low level of wars, famine, or crime. As well as having a very powerful economy. Its people the Asari are universally gorgeous women who can mate with anyone, can live to be a thousand years old, and are all biotics.
23rd Aug '16 8:38:08 AM Morgenthaler
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** The society in ''Literature/StarshipTroopers'' was also a sort of Mary Suetopia, based on his later conservative ideals. Of course, [[Film/StarshipTroopers the films]] subvert this into a Straw Dystopia, but not an actualized one. The book did preach a "military democracy" (a completely nonsensical contradiction in terms, given that every military throughout history has operated through a hierarchical structure and not through popular vote) that utilized corporal punishment for crimes, and capital punishment (not just for murder but other major violent crimes) even with insane persons; the given rationale for the society was that "it works," using only the fictitious evidence of the book itself, while scorning all 20th century conventions as "primitive myths" which were naturally proven wrong by "advanced scientific proofs" of Heinlein's Suetopian future-world, such as the supposed need to corporeally punish dogs in order to housebreak them (which, you will note, most dog experts agree is a terrible idea, these days). That section was comparing never or barely disciplining a puppy for messing in the house, then shooting it as an adult when it continued its misbehavior, to comparative behavior in not punishing juvenile delinquents and then executing the people when they became adults and continued their crimes. (Though seriously, who ''shoots their dog'' over peeing on the rug?)
*** It is questionable whether ''Literature/StarshipTroopers'' can be described as a "military democracy", as the author repeatedly states both that Federal Service is not necessarily military, and that no one on active service can vote.

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** The society in ''Literature/StarshipTroopers'' was also a sort of Mary Suetopia, based on his later conservative ideals. Of course, [[Film/StarshipTroopers the films]] subvert this into a Straw Dystopia, but not an actualized one. The book did preach a "military democracy" (a completely nonsensical contradiction in terms, given that every military throughout history has operated through a hierarchical structure and not through popular vote) that utilized corporal punishment for crimes, and capital punishment (not just for murder but other major violent crimes) even with insane persons; the given rationale for the society was that "it works," using only the fictitious evidence of the book itself, while scorning all 20th century conventions as "primitive myths" which were naturally proven wrong by "advanced scientific proofs" of Heinlein's Suetopian future-world, such as the supposed need to corporeally punish dogs in order to housebreak them (which, you will note, most dog experts agree is a terrible idea, these days). That [[note]]That section was comparing never or barely disciplining a puppy for messing in the house, then shooting it as an adult when it continued its misbehavior, to comparative behavior in not punishing juvenile delinquents and then executing the people when they became adults and continued their crimes. (Though seriously, who ''shoots their dog'' over peeing on the rug?)
*** It is questionable whether ''Literature/StarshipTroopers'' can be described as a "military democracy", as the author repeatedly states both that Federal Service is not necessarily military, and that no one on active service can vote.
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21st Aug '16 12:32:02 PM nombretomado
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* EclipsePhase has a counterpoint to the utopian anarchists mentioned above in the form of the Jovians, and more generally the bioconservative movement. While a society that's inherently suspicious of transhumanism and bio-augmentation is legitimately the natural antagonist in a setting that's entirely about "Transhumanity", it gets taken [[ThoseWackyNazis a bit further than it]] [[{{Flanderization}} really needed to go]].

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* EclipsePhase ''TabletopGame/EclipsePhase'' has a counterpoint to the utopian anarchists mentioned above in the form of the Jovians, and more generally the bioconservative movement. While a society that's inherently suspicious of transhumanism and bio-augmentation is legitimately the natural antagonist in a setting that's entirely about "Transhumanity", it gets taken [[ThoseWackyNazis a bit further than it]] [[{{Flanderization}} really needed to go]].
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