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27th May '16 10:30:49 AM Eddy1215
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A favorite and none too successful technique so that he will not TurnOutLikeHisFather. Unfortunately, this usually results only in the [[ShroudedInMyth mysterious parent]] taking on the allure of ForbiddenFruit -- which may result in [[ExpectingSomeoneTaller a harder than usual crash]].

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A favorite and none too successful technique so that he will not TurnOutLikeHisFather. Unfortunately, this usually results only in the [[ShroudedInMyth mysterious parent]] taking on the allure of ForbiddenFruit -- which may result in [[ExpectingSomeoneTaller a harder than usual crash]].
crash]]. More often than not, this will be NotQuiteTheRightThing.



* This really backfired early on in ''WesternAnimation/{{WITCH}}''. The girls learn that Elyon's a princess and that her brother, BigBad Prince Phobos, is looking for her. Cornelia's all for letting her know ''right away'', but Will isn't so sure of doing so. Then, she finds out from Phobos and Cedric, leading to Elyon believing all of their lies and running off with them. Corny isn't too happy with that bit.

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* This really backfired early on in ''WesternAnimation/{{WITCH}}''. The girls learn that Elyon's a princess and that her brother, BigBad Prince Phobos, is looking for her. Cornelia's all for letting her know ''right away'', but Will isn't so sure of doing so. [[NotQuiteTheRightThing Then, she finds out from Phobos and Cedric, leading to Elyon believing all of their lies and running off with them.them]]. Corny isn't too happy with that bit.
23rd May '16 7:34:01 AM pointycatears
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* In the first season of ''Series/TheFlash2014'', majority of the main characters except Iris knew that Barry is the titular superhero and the Particle Accelerator incident is the cause of the metahumans. Barry, Cisco, Caitlin, Joe and later, Eddie agreed not to tell her because it would put her in harm's way. However, Iris eventually learned about Barry's secret identity and is understandably pissed that she called out on him and her father about it.

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* In the first season of ''Series/TheFlash2014'', majority of the main characters except Iris knew that Barry is the titular superhero and the Particle Accelerator incident is the cause of the metahumans. Barry, Cisco, Caitlin, Joe and later, Eddie agreed not to tell her because it would put her in harm's way. However, Iris eventually learned about Barry's secret identity and is so understandably pissed [[WhatTheHellHero that she called out on him and her father about it.it]].
** In the second season, Barry's current love interest, Patty, doesn't know that he's the Flash and doesn't actually find out until she's [[PutOnABus about to leave Central City]]. Even when she'd pretty much worked it out, everyone still kept it from her, and [[CannotSpitItOut Barry had a hard time trying to tell her the truth]].
** Wally West is introduced midway through the second season, and even after [[spoiler: [[BigBad Zoom]] kidnaps him and forces Barry to give up his speed in return for his safety]], everyone still keeps the Flash's identity from him until he finds out just before the season finale.
19th May '16 8:17:18 PM sayaleviathan
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* ''Manga/{{X1999}}'': Princess Hinoto withhold information from Kamui that Fuuma is the other twin star who will be on the opposing side depending on which side Kamui choose and whoever is the Kamui of the Dragons of Earth, he will kill Kotori. As expected, these ended up true when Kamui was forced to watch Fuuma kill his own sister
19th May '16 4:41:59 AM Slothgirl
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* In ''Literature/{{Runemarks}}'', every major character (at the time) barring Maddy knows [[spoiler: that she is actually Thor's 'son', [[TheChosenOne Modi]]]]. She finds out the truth from [[ConsummateLiar Loki]], of all people.
16th May '16 8:00:35 PM GlitteringFlowers
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* In ''VideoGame/FireEmblem'' (the first one released in America), [[spoiler: Hector's brother dies, but the secret is kept from him until much later in the game.]]

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In ''VideoGame/FireEmblem'' (the first one released in America), ''[[VideoGame/FireEmblemElibe Fire Emblem Blazing Sword]]'', [[spoiler: Hector's IllBoy older brother dies, but the secret is kept from him until much later in the game.game per his instructions.]]
** In ''VideoGame/FireEmblemTheSacredStones'', King Fado tells Seth to keep Eirika from learning that [[spoiler: her bacelet is one of the keys to unlock ''very'' powerful Sacred Relic Weapons]] until it's time. Too bad [[IdiotBall Seth spills it out in the worst moment possible]].
** In ''VideoGame/FireEmblemFates'', Felicia did ''not'' know that [[spoiler: she and her sister Flora are hostages rather than simple maids, and believes they were just commisioned with the job.]] On the other hand, Flora knew from the start but [[spoiler: her and Felicia's dad Kilma]] told her [[SecretKeeper to keep it quiet.
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* In ''VideoGame/TalesOfTheAbyss'' this trope is somewhat exaggerated: from the start of the game, ''every single party member except one'' has a different part of the loop that they're keeping the main character locked out of, for their own reasons, and for the most part unaware of all the others. [[spoiler:Guy has been plotting with Van for years to kill Luke in front of his father as revenge for his own family's death. Anise is secretly reporting on all of their actions to Grand Maestro Mohs because he has her parents hostage. Tear wants to kill her brother because he actually wants to destroy the world, but she doesn't think anyone will believe her if she just says so because he's a VillainWithGoodPublicity. Jade figures out that Luke is a replica about two scenes after you meet him, but doesn't want to deal with the hassle of explaining when it's not relevant to the mission. The only one not deliberately keeping secrets from him is Natalia, and that's only because she doesn't ''know'' her own secret.]]

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* In ''VideoGame/TalesOfTheAbyss'' this trope is somewhat exaggerated: from the start of the game, ''every single party member except one'' has a different part of the loop that they're keeping the main character locked out of, for their own reasons, and for the most part unaware of all the others. [[spoiler:Guy has been plotting with Van for years to kill Luke in front of his father as revenge for his own family's death. Anise is secretly reporting on all of their actions to Grand Maestro Mohs because he has her parents hostage. Tear wants to kill her brother Van because he actually wants to destroy the world, but she doesn't think anyone will believe her if she just says so because he's a VillainWithGoodPublicity. Jade figures out that Luke is a replica about two scenes after you meet him, but doesn't want to deal with the hassle of explaining when it's not relevant to the mission. The only one not deliberately keeping secrets from him is Natalia, and that's only because she doesn't ''know'' her own secret.secret - that she's not the actual Princess, but was SwitchedAtBirth.]]
14th May '16 12:17:04 PM esq263
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* [[DomesticAbuser Domestic abusers]] can do this, telling their victims something but selectively omitting critical details, leading the victim to screw up and "justify" the resultant abuse. Example: A man calls his wife to tell her they'll be going out for dinner that evening. Based upon their past history, she understands that this means they will be going to a regular sit-down restaurant (like Cracker Barrel), and dresses appropriately. What the husband failed to mention was that this dinner is at a very up-scale establishment, and it is with a very important person who is expected to significantly impact the husband's career. He comes home from work to pick up his wife, with no time to spare, only to find that she is grossly underdressed for the occasion. Abuse follows, in which he berates her and accuses her of intentionally trying to sabotage his career, and [[NeverMyFault brushes off her legitimate defense as a lame excuse and an attempt to fix the blame on him]].

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* [[DomesticAbuser Domestic abusers]] can do this, telling their victims something but selectively omitting critical details, leading the victim to screw up and "justify" the resultant abuse. Example: A man calls his wife and leaves a message to tell her they'll be going out for dinner that evening. Based upon their past history, she understands that this means they will be going to a regular sit-down restaurant (like Cracker Barrel), casual dining restaurant, and dresses appropriately. What the husband failed to mention was that this dinner is at a very up-scale establishment, and it is with a very important person who is expected to significantly impact the husband's career. He comes home from work to pick up his wife, with no time to spare, only to find that she is grossly underdressed for the occasion. Abuse follows, in which he berates her and accuses her of intentionally trying to sabotage his career, and [[NeverMyFault brushes off her legitimate defense as a lame excuse and an attempt to fix the blame on him]].
13th May '16 7:35:28 AM ZimFan89
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* In the ''FanFic/MyHostageNotYours'' trilogy, this happens to Dib in ''every. Single. Story.'' Zim and Gaz get involved in something extremely dangerous, but don't tell Dib about it until it's well under way.
11th May '16 3:41:50 AM Morgenthaler
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* In ''VideoGame/AssassinsCreedI'', modern-day Assassin Desmond was never told that the Assassins are still very much at war with the [[TheKnightsTemplar Templars]]. His ancestor, Ezio, wasn't even aware of his heritage. Later games make it clear that Desmond was vaguely aware of this while he was a kid in the assassin camp in South Dakota, but couldn't really understand it.

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* In ''VideoGame/AssassinsCreedI'', modern-day Assassin Desmond was never told that the Assassins are still very much at war with the [[TheKnightsTemplar [[UsefulNotes/TheKnightsTemplar Templars]]. His ancestor, Ezio, wasn't even aware of his heritage. Later games make it clear that Desmond was vaguely aware of this while he was a kid in the assassin camp in South Dakota, but couldn't really understand it.
2nd May '16 9:36:50 PM Eddy1215
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* Through the first four seasons of WesternAnimation/TheVentureBrothers, Hank and Dean didn't know they were clones. [[spoiler: Dean finds out in the interlude Halloween episode between seasons 4 and 5, but chooses not to tell Hank.]]

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* Through the first four seasons of WesternAnimation/TheVentureBrothers, ''WesternAnimation/TheVentureBrothers'', Hank and Dean didn't know they were clones. [[spoiler: Dean finds out in the interlude Halloween episode between seasons 4 and 5, but chooses not to tell Hank.]]
2nd May '16 9:35:30 PM Eddy1215
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* In the ''WesternAnimation/MenInBlack'' episode, The Out to Pasture Syndrome, Zed decides to retire. When Alpha returns more powerful than ever, he captures J and uses a MindProbe to discover Zed's location. After he leaves, Agent L rescues J and reveals Zed's not retired: every last one of J's fellow agents had kept him out of the loop so that Alpha would read J's mind and believe the lie, so they could ambush him. Unfortunately, J was confused as to why Zed's eyes didn't glaze over when he was neuralized, and Alpha picked up on that.

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* In the ''WesternAnimation/MenInBlack'' episode, The "The Out to Pasture Syndrome, Syndrome", Zed decides to retire.retire and puts K in charge of MIB. When Alpha returns more powerful than ever, he captures J and uses a MindProbe to discover Zed's location. After he leaves, Agent L rescues J and reveals Zed's Zed had not retired: every last one of J's fellow agents (and Frank the Pug) had been in on a scheme to capture Alpha, J being kept him out of in the loop dark so that Alpha would read J's mind and believe Alpha's probe wouldn't learn the lie, so they could ambush him.truth. Unfortunately, J was confused as to why Zed's eyes didn't glaze over when he was neuralized, and Alpha picked up on that.
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