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* Apparently something that people still do in 21st-century Korea, if ''Series/EmergencyCouple'' is any indication. In Episode 18 Jin Hee treats an old lady for pneumonia. Jin Hee mentions the old lady's lung cancer, which is a surprise to the old lady. It turns out her son had left instructions for the doctors not to tell her.
* At the start of season 3 of ''{{Series/House}}'', House is depressed because he thinks he was wrong about a patient; by two-thirds of the way through the episode, four out of the other five main characters know he was right, but don't tell him in an attempt to teach him humility. Eventually they have to tell him as it's affecting his work to the point that he's ready to simply give up the current case.
* King Uther in ''{{Series/Merlin}}'' is LockedOutOfTheLoop about Morgana's prophetic dreams so that he will not have her executed as a sorceress. All the rest of the main cast knows that she foresaw [[spoiler: the Sidhe woman Sophia trying to kill Prince Arthur]]. Morgana is herself LockedOutOfTheLoop by Gaius and Merlin, the only ones aware of how powerful her magic ability is; Gaius doses her up with heavy sleeping draught in an attempt to make her forget her dreams.
* As of "A Moroccan Christmas", everyone in ''Series/{{The Office|US}}'' knows that Angela's been sleeping with Dwight except for Andy, Angela's fiancee.
* Lily and Vivian in ''Series/PushingDaisies'' weren't told that Chuck is alive. Olive knows, but thinks she faked her death when she actually died for real only to be resurrected.
** [[spoiler: Subverted in the (sniff) Series Finale]]

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* Apparently something that people still do in 21st-century Korea, if ''Series/EmergencyCouple'' is any indication. In Episode 18 Jin Hee treats an old lady for pneumonia. Jin Hee mentions the old lady's lung cancer, which is a surprise to the old lady. It turns out her son had left instructions for the doctors not to tell her.
* At the start of season 3 of ''{{Series/House}}'', House is depressed because he thinks he was wrong about a patient; by two-thirds of the way through the episode, four out of the other five main characters know he was right, but don't tell him in an attempt to teach him humility. Eventually they have to tell him as it's affecting his work to the point that he's ready to simply give up the current case.
* King Uther in ''{{Series/Merlin}}'' is LockedOutOfTheLoop about Morgana's prophetic dreams so that he will not have her executed as a sorceress. All the rest of the main cast knows that she foresaw [[spoiler: the Sidhe woman Sophia trying to kill Prince Arthur]]. Morgana is herself LockedOutOfTheLoop by Gaius and Merlin, the
''Series/AgentsOfSHIELD'': S.H.I.E.L.D. operatives are only ones aware of how powerful her magic ability is; Gaius doses her up with heavy sleeping draught in an attempt to make her forget her dreams.
* As of "A Moroccan Christmas", everyone in ''Series/{{The Office|US}}'' knows that Angela's been sleeping with Dwight except for Andy, Angela's fiancee.
* Lily and Vivian in ''Series/PushingDaisies'' weren't
told that Chuck their current access rank is alive. Olive knows, but thinks she faked her death when she actually died for real only to be resurrected.
** [[spoiler: Subverted in
the (sniff) Series Finale]]highest available. Basically, if an agent's clearance level is Level 6, they're not supposed to know anything about Level 7 and higher projects, personnel, or activities.



** Earlier in the show, Lieutenat Corwin is locked out regarding Sheridan's BenevolentConspiracy because the command staff aren't sure [[MyCountryRightOrWrong he can be trusted.]] Zack Allen meanwhile gets locked out because his signing on with [[StateSec Night Watch]] means he genuinely ''can't'' be trusted, [[MinionWithAnFInEvil even if he tries to avoid the more unsavory aspects of it]], [[spoiler: at least until they convince him to turn coat.]]

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** Earlier in the show, Lieutenat Lieutenant Corwin is locked out regarding Sheridan's BenevolentConspiracy because the command staff aren't sure [[MyCountryRightOrWrong he can be trusted.]] Zack Allen meanwhile gets locked out because his signing on with [[StateSec Night Watch]] means he genuinely ''can't'' be trusted, [[MinionWithAnFInEvil even if he tries to avoid the more unsavory aspects of it]], [[spoiler: at least until they convince him to turn coat.]]



* Keeping track of who knows what on ''Series/{{Lost}}'' can be confusing even for the cast. In one episode, Hurley expresses his frustration over remembering who is in the need to know about what.
* Pretty much the entire point of ''Series/DarkSkies.'' The backstory was an executive order signed by one president that kept the existence of Majestic and the aliens secret from his successors.
* In ''Series/KamenRiderDenO'', Ryotaro is locked out from learning that [[spoiler:the entire conflict was started by the birth of his [[RippleEffectProofMemory Singularity Point]] niece]], primarily because those involved ([[spoiler:his sister and her "lost" fiance]]) actually changed history in order to protect the important thing in question from the Imagin. He only learns the truth by going back in time to before the alteration and [[spoiler:posing as his past self to get the information from his sister.]]
* In ''Series/StargateAtlantis,'' the cast uses a retrovirus to transform Michael from a Wraith into a human. His memory is erased as a side effect, and they decide to hide his true nature from him. Needless to say, he is pissed when he finds out. In fact, [[spoiler:in one BadFuture, he ends up as the ultimate BigBad of the Pegasus Galaxy, defeating both the Tau'ri and the Wraith with his new hybrid faction]].

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* Keeping track In ''Series/{{Batman}}'', Dick Grayson's Aunt Harriet lives in Wayne Manor along with Bruce, Dick, and Alfred. Despite occasionally getting caught up in their adventures, she was unaware of who knows what on ''Series/{{Lost}}'' can be confusing even for the cast. In one episode, Hurley expresses Batcave or that Bruce and Dick are Batman and Robin.
* Both ''Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer'' and ''Series/{{Angel}}'' have quite a few examples:
** ''Buffy'' season 2: Jenny Calendar (aka Janna Kalderash) was ''only'' told to keep Buffy and Angel apart. She was not informed that Angel's happiness with Buffy would be
his frustration over remembering who is CurseEscapeClause until after the damage was done.
** ''Buffy'' season 3: The Scooby gang neglects to include Faith
in the need to know intervention when they find out about what.
* Pretty much the entire point
Buffy hiding Angel. This winds up making her less trustful of ''Series/DarkSkies.'' The backstory was an executive order signed by one president them, and allows Gwendolyn Post to manipulate her into fighting Buffy.
** ''Buffy'' season 4: "A New Man" reveals
that kept the existence of Majestic and the aliens secret from his successors.
* In ''Series/KamenRiderDenO'', Ryotaro is locked out from learning that [[spoiler:the entire conflict was started by the birth of his [[RippleEffectProofMemory Singularity Point]] niece]], primarily because those involved ([[spoiler:his sister and her "lost" fiance]])
Scoobies actually neglected to inform Giles of Riley and the Initiative.
** ''Buffy'' season 5: Buffy only tells Giles that her little sister Dawn is the Key. She's then forced to tell this to the other Scoobies, who unfortunately tip off Dawn with their
changed history in order behavior to protect her.
** ''Buffy'' season 6: In
the important thing in question from the Imagin. He only learns the truth by going back in time final three episodes, Buffy elects not to before the alteration and [[spoiler:posing as his past self let Dawn know that Spike [[AttemptedRape tried to get the information from his sister.]]
* In ''Series/StargateAtlantis,'' the cast uses a retrovirus to transform Michael from a Wraith into a human. His memory is erased as a side effect, and they decide to hide his true nature from him. Needless to say, he is pissed when he
rape her]] previously. She finds out. In fact, [[spoiler:in one BadFuture, he ends up as the ultimate BigBad out when Xander lets it slip while they're fleeing from Dark Willow, and is ''not'' happy.
** ''Buffy'' season 7/''Angel'' season 4: The Scoobies elected not to warn Faith
of the Pegasus Galaxy, defeating both danger that the Tau'ri First Evil and its minions posed to the Wraith with his new hybrid faction]].Slayer line because they thought that she would be safe from them in prison. Faith ended up finding out the hard way when one of the First's minions infiltrated the prison she was kept in and attacked her.



* On ''Series/TeenWolf'', Lydia. Which is a mistake, given that she's been hallucinating Peter Hale all season. She ends up finding out and getting involved by the end of Season 2.
** Scott and Stiles' parents are the same for most of the first two seasons. Scott's mother ends up witnessing Scott's werewolf form near the end of Season 2, while in Season 3A Stiles finally just tells his father everything, but he doesn't believe it until he gets kidnapped by a druid.
** Subverted by [[spoiler: Danny. For most of the series both the main characters and the fans assumed that Danny didn't know about the supernatural. Then in the 3B finale he reveals he's worked out what's going on, and interviews with the creator imply he's known all along, and was just smart enough to stay out of it.]]
** By the end of Season 3B the only named characters not in the know are the school staff and Agent Mccall.
* On ''Series/TheWestWing'', CJ is often Locked out of the Loop by the other senior staff on important confidential issues, because if she knows something and is asked about it directly during press briefings, she would be forced to lie to the public, which could jeopardize the White House's relationship with the media. This creates a lot of uncomfortable situations where everyone knows something except CJ, and CJ wants to know the truth, but no one can tell her for her own good. This happens to an extent in real life.
* On the ''Series/DoctorWho'' sixth season premiere, "The Impossible Astronaut," everyone but the Doctor knows that [[spoiler:the Doctor was shot and {{killed|OffForReal}} in the middle of a regeneration]], so he refuses to be goaded into following the clues they have, since he has no reason to. River Song insisting he must only exposes his mistrust of her, but Amy is able to convince him to do as she asks without question (the implication being that this is reciprocation for her always doing this for him). The following lovely moment is an uncommon expression of mutual respect between the Doctor and one of his companions.
--> '''The Doctor''': My life in your hands, Amelia Pond.
** In series 4, Creator/DavidTennant's confusion when he first meets River Song is absolutely genuine. Writer Creator/StevenMoffat refused to tell ''anyone'' where he was going with the character, and David Tennant didn't know any more about her than his character, the Doctor, did.
* In ''Series/TheThickOfIt'' specials "The Rise Of The Nutters" and "Spinners And Losers", Malcolm Tucker is constantly kept out of the loop despite being the Prime Minister's spin doctor.
* On ''Series/QuantumLeap'', it's eventually revealed that Sam [[spoiler: has a loving wife in his own time]]. This fact is kept from him, because knowing the truth would hinder his ability to cope with leaping from one life to another.

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* On ''Series/TeenWolf'', Lydia. Which is a mistake, given Pretty much the entire point of ''Series/DarkSkies''. The backstory was an executive order signed by one president that she's been hallucinating Peter Hale all season. She ends up finding out and getting involved by kept the end existence of Season 2.
** Scott and Stiles' parents are the same for most of the first two seasons. Scott's mother ends up witnessing Scott's werewolf form near the end of Season 2, while in Season 3A Stiles finally just tells his father everything, but he doesn't believe it until he gets kidnapped by a druid.
** Subverted by [[spoiler: Danny. For most of the series both the main characters
Majestic and the fans assumed that Danny aliens secret from his successors.
* ''Series/DoctorWho'':
** [[Recap/DoctorWhoS30E8SilenceInTheLibrary "Silence in the Library"]]/[[Recap/DoctorWhoS30E9ForestOfTheDead "Forest of the Dead"]]: Creator/DavidTennant's confusion when he first meets River Song is absolutely genuine. Writer Creator/StevenMoffat refused to tell ''anyone'' where he was going with the character, and David Tennant
didn't know any more about her than his character, the supernatural. Then in the 3B finale he reveals he's worked out what's going on, and interviews with the creator imply he's known all along, and was just smart enough to stay out of it.]]
** By the end of Season 3B the only named characters not in the know are the school staff and Agent Mccall.
Doctor, did.
* On ''Series/TheWestWing'', CJ is often Locked out of the Loop by the other senior staff on important confidential issues, because if she knows something and is asked about it directly during press briefings, she would be forced to lie to the public, which could jeopardize the White House's relationship with the media. This creates a lot of uncomfortable situations where everyone knows something except CJ, and CJ wants to know the truth, but no one can tell her for her own good. This happens to an extent in real life.
* On the ''Series/DoctorWho'' sixth season premiere,
** In [[Recap/DoctorWhoS32E1TheImpossibleAstronaut "The Impossible Astronaut," Astronaut"]]/[[Recap/DoctorWhoS32E2DayOfTheMoon "Day of the Moon"]], everyone but the Doctor knows that [[spoiler:the Doctor was shot and {{killed|OffForReal}} in the middle of a regeneration]], so he refuses to be goaded into following the clues they have, since he has no reason to. River Song insisting he must only exposes his mistrust of her, but Amy is able to convince him to do as she asks without question (the implication being that this is reciprocation for her always doing this for him). The following lovely moment is an uncommon expression of mutual respect between the Doctor and one of his companions.
--> '''The Doctor''': -->'''The Doctor:''' My life in your hands, Amelia Pond.
** * Apparently something that people still do in 21st-century Korea, if ''Series/EmergencyCouple'' is any indication. In series 4, Creator/DavidTennant's confusion when he first meets River Song Episode 18 Jin Hee treats an old lady for pneumonia. Jin Hee mentions the old lady's lung cancer, which is absolutely genuine. Writer Creator/StevenMoffat refused a surprise to the old lady. It turns out her son had left instructions for the doctors not to tell ''anyone'' her.
* In the SeriesFinale of ''Series/EverybodyLovesRaymond'', when Ray went to the doctor for an operation, there was a brief moment
where his heart stopped while he was going with asleep, and the character, and David Tennant others decided not to tell him about it. He was pretty upset that they didn't know any more tell him when he found out.
* In the first season of ''Series/TheFlash2014'', majority of the main characters except Iris knew that Barry is the titular superhero and the Particle Accelerator incident is the cause of the metahumans. Barry, Cisco, Caitlin, Joe and later, Eddie agreed not to tell her because it would put her in harm's way. However, Iris eventually learned
about Barry's secret identity and is so understandably pissed [[WhatTheHellHero that she called out on him and her than his character, father about it]].
** In
the Doctor, did.
* In ''Series/TheThickOfIt'' specials "The Rise Of The Nutters"
second season, Barry's current love interest, Patty, doesn't know that he's the Flash and "Spinners And Losers", Malcolm Tucker is constantly doesn't actually find out until she's [[PutOnABus about to leave Central City]]. Even when she'd pretty much worked it out, everyone still kept it from her, and [[CannotSpitItOut Barry had a hard time trying to tell her the truth]].
** Wally West is introduced midway through the second season, and even after [[spoiler: [[BigBad Zoom]] kidnaps him and forces Barry to give up his speed in return for his safety]], everyone still keeps the Flash's identity from him until he finds out just before the season finale.
** In the third season, after Barry accidentally travels to the future and sees [[spoiler: Iris being killed by the season's BigBad]], he eventually tells Iris and they decide to tell the others but keep it a secret from Joe, [[spoiler: fearing that he would not react well to hearing that his daughter may be dying soon]].
* At the start of season 3 of ''{{Series/House}}'', House is depressed because he thinks he was wrong about a patient; by two-thirds of the way through the episode, four
out of the loop despite being the Prime Minister's spin doctor.
* On ''Series/QuantumLeap'',
other five main characters know he was right, but don't tell him in an attempt to teach him humility. Eventually they have to tell him as it's eventually revealed affecting his work to the point that Sam he's ready to simply give up the current case.
* In ''Series/KamenRiderDenO'', Ryotaro is locked out from learning that [[spoiler:the entire conflict was started by the birth of his [[RippleEffectProofMemory Singularity Point]] niece]], primarily because those involved ([[spoiler:his sister and her "lost" fiancé]]) actually changed history in order to protect the important thing in question from the Imagin. He only learns the truth by going back in time to before the alteration and [[spoiler:posing as his past self to get the information from his sister.]]
* In the ''Series/LawAndOrderSVU'' episode "Identity", one of a pair of twins is unaware that she was born a boy, then given a sex-change operation after a botched circumcision damaged her penis. Her parents, physicians, and psychiatrist had kept this a secret ever since, in accordance with the latter's agenda of "proving" that gender identity is environmental, not innate.
* Keeping track of who knows what on ''Series/{{Lost}}'' can be confusing even for the cast. In one episode, Hurley expresses his frustration over remembering who is in the need to know about what.
* King Uther in ''{{Series/Merlin}}'' is LockedOutOfTheLoop about Morgana's prophetic dreams so that he will not have her executed as a sorceress. All the rest of the main cast knows that she foresaw
[[spoiler: has a loving wife in his own time]]. This fact is kept from him, because knowing the truth would hinder his Sidhe woman Sophia trying to kill Prince Arthur]]. Morgana is herself LockedOutOfTheLoop by Gaius and Merlin, the only ones aware of how powerful her magic ability to cope is; Gaius doses her up with leaping from one life heavy sleeping draught in an attempt to another.make her forget her dreams.



* As of "A Moroccan Christmas", everyone in ''Series/{{The Office|US}}'' knows that Angela's been sleeping with Dwight except for Andy, Angela's fiancee.
* Lily and Vivian in ''Series/PushingDaisies'' weren't told that Chuck is alive. Olive knows, but thinks she faked her death when she actually died for real only to be resurrected.
** [[spoiler: Subverted in the (sniff) Series Finale.]]
* On ''Series/QuantumLeap'', it's eventually revealed that Sam [[spoiler: has a loving wife in his own time]]. This fact is kept from him, because knowing the truth would hinder his ability to cope with leaping from one life to another.
* In the ''Series/{{Rosewood}}'' episode "Ballistics & [=BFFs=]", the police department tries to lock Rosewood out of the loop regarding their plan to expose and arrest Detective Hame, a murderous DirtyCop, because Rosewood is a civilian and prone to recklessness. Unfortunately for them, Rosewood independently figures out that Hame is a murderer, and everyone's efforts to keep Rosewood locked out of the loop while he's trying to warn them about Hame convince Rosewood that they're all being [[HorribleJudgeOfCharacter Horrible Judges of Character]] and that he needs to rescue them.
* In ''Series/StargateAtlantis'', the cast uses a retrovirus to transform Michael from a Wraith into a human. His memory is erased as a side effect, and they decide to hide his true nature from him. Needless to say, he is pissed when he finds out. In fact, [[spoiler:in one BadFuture, he ends up as the ultimate BigBad of the Pegasus Galaxy, defeating both the Tau'ri and the Wraith with his new hybrid faction]].



* In the ''Series/LawAndOrderSVU'' episode "Identity", one of a pair of twins is unaware that she was born a boy, then given a sex-change operation after a botched circumcision damaged her penis. Her parents, physicians, and psychiatrist had kept this a secret ever since, in accordance with the latter's agenda of "proving" that gender identity is environmental, not innate.
* Both ''Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer'' and ''Series/{{Angel}}'' have quite a few examples:
** ''Buffy'' season 2: Jenny Calendar (aka Janna Kalderash) was ''only'' told to keep Buffy and Angel apart. She was not informed that Angel's happiness with Buffy would be his CurseEscapeClause until after the damage was done.
** ''Buffy'' season 3: The Scooby gang neglects to include Faith in the intervention when they find out about Buffy hiding Angel. This winds up making her less trustful of them, and allows Gwendolyn Post to manipulate her into fighting Buffy.
** ''Buffy'' season 4: "A New Man" reveals that the Scoobies actually neglected to inform Giles of Riley and the Initiative.
** ''Buffy'' season 5: Buffy only tells Giles that her little sister Dawn is the Key. She's then forced to tell this to the other Scoobies, who unfortunately tip off Dawn with their changed behavior to her.
** ''Buffy'' season 6: In the final three episodes, Buffy elects not to let Dawn know that Spike [[AttemptedRape tried to rape her]] previously. She finds out when Xander lets it slip while they're fleeing from Dark Willow, and is ''not'' happy.
** ''Buffy'' season 7/''Angel'' season 4: The Scoobies elected not to warn Faith of the danger that the First Evil and its minions posed to the Slayer line because they thought that she would be safe from them in prison. Faith ended up finding out the hard way when one of the First's minions infiltrated the prison she was kept in and attacked her.



* In the SeriesFinale of ''Series/EverybodyLovesRaymond'', when Ray went to the doctor for an operation, there was a brief moment where his heart stopped while he was asleep, and the others decided not to tell him about it. He was pretty upset that they didn't tell him when he found out.
* In the first season of ''Series/TheFlash2014'', majority of the main characters except Iris knew that Barry is the titular superhero and the Particle Accelerator incident is the cause of the metahumans. Barry, Cisco, Caitlin, Joe and later, Eddie agreed not to tell her because it would put her in harm's way. However, Iris eventually learned about Barry's secret identity and is so understandably pissed [[WhatTheHellHero that she called out on him and her father about it]].
** In the second season, Barry's current love interest, Patty, doesn't know that he's the Flash and doesn't actually find out until she's [[PutOnABus about to leave Central City]]. Even when she'd pretty much worked it out, everyone still kept it from her, and [[CannotSpitItOut Barry had a hard time trying to tell her the truth]].
** Wally West is introduced midway through the second season, and even after [[spoiler: [[BigBad Zoom]] kidnaps him and forces Barry to give up his speed in return for his safety]], everyone still keeps the Flash's identity from him until he finds out just before the season finale.
** In the third season, after Barry accidentally travels to the future and sees [[spoiler: Iris being killed by the season's BigBad]], he eventually tells Iris and they decide to tell the others but keep it a secret from Joe, [[spoiler: fearing that he would not react well to hearing that his daughter may be dying soon]].
* In the ''Series/{{Rosewood}}'' episode "Ballistics & [=BFFs=]", the police department tries to lock Rosewood out of the loop regarding their plan to expose and arrest Detective Hame, a murderous DirtyCop, because Rosewood is a civilian and prone to recklessness. Unfortunately for them, Rosewood independently figures out that Hame is a murderer, and everyone's efforts to keep Rosewood locked out of the loop while he's trying to warn them about Hame convince Rosewood that they're all being [[HorribleJudgeOfCharacter Horrible Judges of Character]] and that he needs to rescue them.
* ''Series/AgentsOfSHIELD'': S.H.I.E.L.D. operatives are only told that their current access rank is the highest available. Basically, if an agent's clearance level is Level 6, they not supposed to know anything about Level 7 and higher projects, personnel, or activities.

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* In the SeriesFinale of ''Series/EverybodyLovesRaymond'', when Ray went to the doctor for an operation, there was On ''Series/TeenWolf'', Lydia. Which is a brief moment where his heart stopped while he was asleep, and the others decided not to tell him about it. He was pretty upset mistake, given that they didn't tell him when he found out.
* In
she's been hallucinating Peter Hale all season. She ends up finding out and getting involved by the end of Season 2.
** Scott and Stiles' parents are the same for most of
the first season two seasons. Scott's mother ends up witnessing Scott's werewolf form near the end of ''Series/TheFlash2014'', majority Season 2, while in Season 3A Stiles finally just tells his father everything, but he doesn't believe it until he gets kidnapped by a druid.
** Subverted by [[spoiler: Danny. For most
of the series both the main characters except Iris knew that Barry is the titular superhero and the Particle Accelerator incident is the cause of the metahumans. Barry, Cisco, Caitlin, Joe and later, Eddie agreed not to tell her because it would put her in harm's way. However, Iris eventually learned fans assumed that Danny didn't know about Barry's secret identity and is so understandably pissed [[WhatTheHellHero that she called out on him and her father about it]].
** In
the second season, Barry's current love interest, Patty, doesn't know that supernatural. Then in the 3B finale he reveals he's the Flash and doesn't actually find out until she's [[PutOnABus about to leave Central City]]. Even when she'd pretty much worked it out, everyone still out what's going on, and interviews with the creator imply he's known all along, and was just smart enough to stay out of it.]]
** By the end of Season 3B the only named characters not in the know are the school staff and Agent Mccall.
* In ''Series/TheThickOfIt'' specials "The Rise Of The Nutters" and "Spinners And Losers", Malcolm Tucker is constantly
kept it from her, and [[CannotSpitItOut Barry had a hard time trying to tell her the truth]].
** Wally West is introduced midway through the second season, and even after [[spoiler: [[BigBad Zoom]] kidnaps him and forces Barry to give up his speed in return for his safety]], everyone still keeps the Flash's identity from him until he finds out just before the season finale.
** In the third season, after Barry accidentally travels to the future and sees [[spoiler: Iris being killed by the season's BigBad]], he eventually tells Iris and they decide to tell the others but keep it a secret from Joe, [[spoiler: fearing that he would not react well to hearing that his daughter may be dying soon]].
* In the ''Series/{{Rosewood}}'' episode "Ballistics & [=BFFs=]", the police department tries to lock Rosewood
out of the loop regarding their plan to expose and arrest Detective Hame, a murderous DirtyCop, because Rosewood despite being the Prime Minister's spin doctor.
* On ''Series/TheWestWing'', CJ
is a civilian and prone to recklessness. Unfortunately for them, Rosewood independently figures out that Hame is a murderer, and everyone's efforts to keep Rosewood locked often Locked out of the loop while he's trying to warn them Loop by the other senior staff on important confidential issues, because if she knows something and is asked about Hame convince Rosewood that they're all being [[HorribleJudgeOfCharacter Horrible Judges it directly during press briefings, she would be forced to lie to the public, which could jeopardize the White House's relationship with the media. This creates a lot of Character]] uncomfortable situations where everyone knows something except CJ, and that he needs to rescue them.
* ''Series/AgentsOfSHIELD'': S.H.I.E.L.D. operatives are only told that their current access rank is the highest available. Basically, if an agent's clearance level is Level 6, they not supposed
CJ wants to know anything about Level 7 and higher projects, personnel, or activities.the truth, but no one can tell her for her own good. This happens to an extent in real life.



* In ''Series/{{Batman}}'', Dick Grayson's Aunt Harriet lives in Wayne Manor along with Bruce, Dick, and Alfred. Despite occasionally getting caught up in their adventures, she was unaware of the Batcave or that Bruce and Dick are Batman and Robin.



* ''WesternAnimation/AmericanDad'': In the episode "Haylias", Stan believed that [[{{Tykebomb}} Project]] [[ManchurianAgent Daycare]], which he put Hayley in, was discontinued because the subjects lost their free will permanently after seven days of activation. It isn't until after he activates Hayley and misses the deadline that he discovers from Bullock that the project was ''actually'' discontinued because the subjects [[TurnedAgainstTheirMasters turned on their handlers and killed them after seven days]].



* ''WesternAnimation/WinxClub'': In the first season, Bloom does not know she is the princess of a dead planet, and the guardian of a special power called the Dragon Fire. [[spoiler:That is, until the Trix, who do know, take it away from her.]]
* ''WesternAnimation/KingOfTheHill'': It's essentially an open secret that Joseph Gribble is the product of his mother Nancy having an affair with John Redcorn. The only people not aware are Joseph himself and his "father" Dale. The episode revealing this showed that Peggy Hill didn't know either, but Hank never told her because he figured it was so blatantly obvious he didn't have to say anything. Nobody tells them because it would destroy the Gribble family. Notably, later on in the series Dale comes to the conclusion that aliens impregnated Nancy...with his own sperm, in order to produce a race of super-warriors. Hank decides to let him believe this.
* ''WesternAnimation/AmericanDad'': In the episode "Haylias," Stan believed that [[{{Tykebomb}} Project]] [[ManchurianAgent Daycare]], which he put Hayley in, was discontinued because the subjects lost their free will permanently after seven days of activation. It isn't until after he activates Hayley and misses the deadline that he discovers from Bullock that the project was ''actually'' discontinued because the subjects [[TurnedAgainstTheirMasters turned on their handlers and killed them after seven days]].



* Happens in ''WesternAnimation/TheLegendOfKorra'' to the titular character, who always got upset that the Order of the White Lotus kept her at the training compound, but was kept in the dark from the fact that the Red Lotus tried to kidnap her at a young age. The only people outside of the White Lotus who knew were Tenzin, her father Tonraq, Lord Zuko, Lin Beifong, and even her EvilUncle Unalaq.

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* ** Happens in ''WesternAnimation/TheLegendOfKorra'' to the titular character, who always got upset that the Order of the White Lotus kept her at the training compound, but was kept in the dark from the fact that the Red Lotus tried to kidnap her at a young age. The only people outside of the White Lotus who knew were Tenzin, her father Tonraq, Lord Zuko, Lin Beifong, and even her EvilUncle Unalaq.


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* ''WesternAnimation/KingOfTheHill'': It's essentially an open secret that Joseph Gribble is the product of his mother Nancy having an affair with John Redcorn. The only people not aware are Joseph himself and his "father" Dale. The episode revealing this showed that Peggy Hill didn't know either, but Hank never told her because he figured it was so blatantly obvious he didn't have to say anything. Nobody tells them because it would destroy the Gribble family. Notably, later on in the series Dale comes to the conclusion that aliens impregnated Nancy...with his own sperm, in order to produce a race of super-warriors. Hank decides to let him believe this.


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* ''WesternAnimation/StarWarsRebels'': At the end of [[Recap/StarWarsRebelsS3E15ThroughImperialEyes "Through Imperial Eyes"]], Thrawn and Yularen know that [[spoiler:Agent Kallus is the [[ReverseMole traitor]] in the Imperial ranks]]. However, they choose to keep the rest of the Imperial officers in the dark [[spoiler:so that Thrawn can FeedTheMole, necessitating letting Kallus' [[FrameUp framing]] of Lieutenant Lyste stand]].


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* ''WesternAnimation/WinxClub'': In the first season, Bloom does not know she is the princess of a dead planet, and the guardian of a special power called the Dragon Fire. [[spoiler:That is, until the Trix, who do know, take it away from her.]]
12th Apr '17 7:27:18 AM Konacha
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** Though Kyon, in the second book, point blanks tell's Haruhi everything but she doesn't believe it.
31st Mar '17 3:59:35 PM nombretomado
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* UsefulNotes/{{Pakistan}} was locked out of the loop while the US conducted an operation to kill OsamaBinLaden. The operation succeeded in 40 minutes, and Pakistan was only informed a couple hours later. This has been happening on a more general basis in US Pakistan relations, for the simple reason that things the US told them kept getting leaked. The recent revelation that elements of the Pakistani intelligence service were actively helping Osama bin Laden to hide in Pakistan only highlights why this type of thing is sometimes done.

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* UsefulNotes/{{Pakistan}} was locked out of the loop while the US conducted an operation to kill OsamaBinLaden.UsefulNotes/OsamaBinLaden. The operation succeeded in 40 minutes, and Pakistan was only informed a couple hours later. This has been happening on a more general basis in US Pakistan relations, for the simple reason that things the US told them kept getting leaked. The recent revelation that elements of the Pakistani intelligence service were actively helping Osama bin Laden to hide in Pakistan only highlights why this type of thing is sometimes done.
23rd Mar '17 1:12:32 AM Tsukireiko
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** Ironically locking Ran out of the loop has locked ''Conan'' out of the loop about some of the things that Ran has noticed, remembered, or experienced that are plot relevant. Since Conan tries his darndest to keep Ran away from the trouble he gets himself into and Ran doesn't know that he might want to know certain things, they cannot pool their information. Thus there are realizations that take much longer to come to light than they probably otherwise would. A particularly egregious example is the fact that Ran has, in fact, directly clashed with Conan's enemies. Over 500 chapters later and Conan ''still'' has no idea that this occurred because as far as Ran knows, she has no reason to tell him about it.

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** Ironically locking Ran out of the loop has locked ''Conan'' out of the loop about some of the things that Ran has noticed, remembered, or experienced that are plot relevant. Since Conan tries his darndest to keep Ran away from the trouble he gets himself into and Ran doesn't know that he might want to know certain things, they cannot pool their information. Thus there are realizations that take much longer to come to light than they probably otherwise would. A particularly egregious example is the fact that Ran has, in fact, directly clashed with Conan's enemies. Over 500 chapters later and Conan ''still'' has no idea that this one of the things he most fears happening already once occurred ''ages'' ago, because as far as Ran knows, she has no reason to tell him about it.it. If not for the fact that Vermouth just happens to have [[MoralityPet soft spots for Ran and Conan]] because they unknowingly saved her life a year ago, Ran might not have survived that encounter.


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** Ai herself has a habit of withholding certain information from Conan, which was made evident when it turned out that something Conan had been looking into was something Ai had known all along but deliberately hadn't told him. Ai tends to do this when she believes Conan knowing will lead him to do something reckless or dangerous, or otherwise will put any of their friends at risk. While Ai's paranoia is understandable, this leads to a lot of stalled leads and frustrations for Conan's investigation into the Organization, particularly since he eventually finds a way to learn what he wants somewhere along the line.
23rd Mar '17 12:50:12 AM Tsukireiko
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** Ironically locking Ran out of the loop has locked 'Conan'' out of the loop about some of the things that Ran has noticed, remembered, or experienced that are plot relevant. Since Conan tries his darndest to keep Ran out of the trouble he gets himself into and Ran doesn't know that he might want to know certain things, they cannot pool their information and thus there are realizations that take much longer to come to light than they probably otherwise would. A particularly egregious example is the fact that Ran has, in fact, had a direct run-in with Conan's enemies. Over 500 chapters later and Conan ''still'' has no idea that this occurred because as far as Ran knows, she has no reason to tell him about it.

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** Ironically locking Ran out of the loop has locked 'Conan'' ''Conan'' out of the loop about some of the things that Ran has noticed, remembered, or experienced that are plot relevant. Since Conan tries his darndest to keep Ran out of away from the trouble he gets himself into and Ran doesn't know that he might want to know certain things, they cannot pool their information and thus information. Thus there are realizations that take much longer to come to light than they probably otherwise would. A particularly egregious example is the fact that Ran has, in fact, had a direct run-in directly clashed with Conan's enemies. Over 500 chapters later and Conan ''still'' has no idea that this occurred because as far as Ran knows, she has no reason to tell him about it.
23rd Mar '17 12:46:55 AM Tsukireiko
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** Ironically locking Ran out of the loop has locked 'Conan'' out of the loop about some of the things that Ran has noticed, remembered, or experienced that are plot relevant. Since Conan tries his darndest to keep Ran out of the trouble he gets himself into and Ran doesn't know that he might want to know certain things, they cannot pool their information and thus there are realizations that take much longer to come to light than they probably otherwise would. A particularly egregious example is the fact that Ran has, in fact, had a direct run-in with Conan's enemies. Over 500 chapters later and Conan ''still'' has no idea that this occurred because as far as Ran knows, she has no reason to tell him about it.
7th Mar '17 12:38:48 AM sayaleviathan
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* In ''Film/CaptainAmericaCivilWar'', the reason Spider-Man fights for the Pro-Registration side is because Tony Stark told Peter that Steve Rogers and his team of heroes are going against the law and they're dangerous. Cap {{lampshades}} this and points out that there's more going on than what Stark told him. Unfortunately, Spidey tells Cap that Stark told him Cap would say that and doesn't listen to him.

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* In ''Film/CaptainAmericaCivilWar'', the ''Film/CaptainAmericaCivilWar'':
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reason Spider-Man fights for the Pro-Registration side is because Tony Stark told Peter that Steve Rogers and his team of heroes are going against the law and they're dangerous. Cap {{lampshades}} this and points out that there's more going on than what Stark told him. Unfortunately, Spidey tells Cap that Stark told him Cap would say that and doesn't listen to him. him.
** A very tragic example would be when Helmut Zemo played a surveillance footage [[spoiler:of a brainwashed Bucky murdering Tony's parents]], Tony angrily demanded Steve if he knew this. Steve confirmed that [[spoiler:he knew that his parents were killed by HYDRA but he himself didn't know that it was Bucky who did it]]. But this still sends Tony into rage [[spoiler:and tries to kill Bucky]]. It doesn't help that Steve and Tony were in middle of reconciling their differences. Towards the end of the movie, Steve sends a letter to Tony, apologizing [[spoiler:that he should have told him about his parents' death earlier and hope that there might be a chance of reconciliation]].
2nd Mar '17 6:16:57 PM 017Bluefield
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* 'Franchise/FireEmblem'':

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27th Feb '17 8:36:59 PM Adept
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* Minato Sahashi of ''{{Sekirei}}'' remains Locked Out on two ''very'' significant pieces of information.

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* Minato Sahashi of ''{{Sekirei}}'' ''Manga/{{Sekirei}}'' remains Locked Out on two ''very'' significant pieces of information.
26th Feb '17 12:42:27 PM Nyame
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* ''FanFic/TitaniaFalls'': Ford is the only member of the Pines family to have no knowledge of Fairy Tail's history (Stan has known Erza for years while the twins grew up on stories about the guild). Thus, for the first time in a long time, he finds himself lacking in knowledge and often confused about things. [[spoiler:For example, he has idea what the significance is of Jellal naming his and Erza's youngest daughter "Simone"]].
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