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17th Aug '16 2:32:08 PM Kadorhal
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** In the comic ''A Dame To Kill For'', the main character, Dwight, is shot up pretty badly by the title character, a FemmeFatale to the last. As Marv is hauling him to Old Town, he comments: "...Here I am jabbering with you leaking all over the place. You're damn lucky all that dame had was a .32 -- we wouldn't even be having this conversation if she'd used a real gun on you. Even so, getting shot in the face isn't high on my list of how to have a good time." The FemmeFatale herself notes that she's not a great shot, adding to this trope.
** And later, when Dwight [[spoiler: changes his faces]] and comes back to confront said FemmeFatale, all he's able to conceal up his sleeve is "a crummy little .25", all six rounds of which are nowhere near enough to stop Manute (the bullets were used against his MadeOfIron body rather than his head).
** It seems carrying anything smaller than a .45 Automatic or a .357 Magnum is a good way to lose a gunfight in Sin City (unless you're [[{{Badass}} Wallace]]), as many of its denizens are either ImmuneToBullets or MadeOfIron.

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** In the comic ''A Dame To Kill For'', the main character, Dwight, is shot up pretty badly by the title character, a FemmeFatale to the last. As Marv is hauling him to Old Town, he comments: "...Here I am jabbering with you leaking all over the place. You're damn lucky all that dame had was a .32 -- we wouldn't even be having this conversation if she'd used a real gun on you. Even so, getting shot in the face isn't high on my list of how to have a good time." The FemmeFatale femme fatale herself notes that she's not a great shot, adding to this trope.
** And later, when Dwight [[spoiler: changes his faces]] and comes back to confront said FemmeFatale, her, all he's able to conceal up his sleeve is "a crummy little .25", all six rounds of which are nowhere near enough to stop Manute (the bullets were used against his MadeOfIron body rather than his head).
** It seems carrying anything smaller than a .45 Automatic or a .357 Magnum is a good way to lose a gunfight in Sin City (unless you're [[{{Badass}} Wallace]]), as many of its denizens are either ImmuneToBullets or MadeOfIron.are, if not simply made of iron, at least ImmuneToBullets.



* Film/JamesBond originally carried a Beretta 418 (.25 calibre) before switching to his signature Walther PPK. Behind the scenes, the change happened after one Geoffrey Boothroyd [[{{Tuckerization}} for whom the character who would become Q would be named]] wrote to Fleming objecting to the use of the Beretta. From ''Film/DrNo'':

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* Film/JamesBond originally carried a Beretta 418 (.25 calibre) before switching to his signature Walther PPK. Behind the scenes, the change happened after one Geoffrey Boothroyd [[{{Tuckerization}} for whom the character who would become Q would be named]] wrote to Fleming objecting to the use of the Beretta.Beretta and, after some back-and-forth, suggested the Walther. From ''Film/DrNo'':



** The film version, ironically, gets it backwards; in that scene, Bond is instead turning in a Beretta 1934 in .380 ACP, which M continues to disparage as he proceeds to force Bond to use a ''lower''-caliber weapon (not that it matters too much, since the actual Walther used in the film was the larger PP in the same caliber as the M1934). Calibre size is not the only reason he has to turn it in, at least, as his [[ReliablyUnreliableGuns Beretta had jammed on him]] and he was wounded as a result (in the preceding book, ''From Russia With Love'', it became stuck in a holster when Bond attached a suppressor to it, allowing him to be stabbed with a poisoned knife; this was not included in the film version, as the chronology was changed between films).
** The 4.2mm handgun used by ''Film/TheManWithTheGoldenGun'' should be this, but since it's only used by Scaramanga, who has ImprobableAimingSkills, every shot is an instant one-hit kill. Bond-based video games that include the gun continue to make both it and gold-plated variations on whichever Walther pistol Bond [[WeaponOfChoice swears by]] for that game an instant kill, regardless of who's using it (or sometimes even ''what'' is being shot with it), as a MythologyGag.

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** The film version, ironically, gets it backwards; in that scene, Bond is instead turning in a Beretta 1934 in .380 ACP, which M continues to disparage as he proceeds to force Bond to use a ''lower''-caliber weapon (not that it matters too much, since the actual Walther used in the film was the larger PP in the same caliber as the M1934). Calibre size is not the only reason he has to turn it in, at least, as his [[ReliablyUnreliableGuns Beretta had jammed on him]] and he was wounded as a result (in the preceding book, ''From Russia With Love'', it became stuck in a holster when Bond attached a suppressor to it, allowing him to be stabbed with a poisoned knife; this was not included in the film version, as the chronology was changed between films).
films, what with ''Dr. No'' being the first one adapted).
** The 4.2mm handgun used by ''Film/TheManWithTheGoldenGun'' should be this, but since it's only used by Scaramanga, who has ImprobableAimingSkills, every shot is an instant one-hit kill. Bond-based video games that include the gun continue to make both it and gold-plated variations on of [[WeaponOfChoice whichever Walther pistol Bond [[WeaponOfChoice swears by]] by for that game game]] an instant kill, regardless of who's using it (or sometimes even ''what'' is being shot with it), as a MythologyGag.



* In ''Film/TheEnforcer'', when asked why he carries a HandCannon, Harry explains that he's seen shots from a .38 bounce off a car windshield, something shots from his .44 magnum have never done.

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* In ''Film/TheEnforcer'', when asked why he carries a HandCannon, Harry explains that he's seen shots from a .38 bounce off a car windshield, something shots from his .44 magnum Magnum have never done.



* Inverted by ''Film/TaxiDriver''. Travis buys four guns, one [[HandCannon .44 Magnum]] and three smaller pistols. The guy selling him the guns tells him that the .44 is AwesomeButImpractical and, indeed, Travis only manages to use it to [[{{Fingore}} blow a man's hand off]] while his actual kills are made with the smaller guns.

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* Inverted by ''Film/TaxiDriver''. Travis buys four guns, one [[HandCannon .44 Magnum]] Magnum revolver]] and three smaller pistols. The guy selling him the guns tells him that the .44 is AwesomeButImpractical and, indeed, Travis only manages to use it to [[{{Fingore}} blow a man's hand off]] while his actual kills are made with the smaller guns.



* In the DaleBrown novel ''Shadows of Steel'', BigBad Iranian general Buzhazi is nearly assassinated, but though he is wounded he doesn't die because he manages to get treatment in time. It is said that if the assassin had used a more powerful gun, he wouldn't have lasted long enough to get treatment and the attempt would have been successful.

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* In the DaleBrown Creator/DaleBrown novel ''Shadows of Steel'', BigBad Iranian general Buzhazi is nearly assassinated, but though he is wounded he doesn't die because he manages to get treatment in time. It is said that if the assassin had used a more powerful gun, he wouldn't have lasted long enough to get treatment and the attempt would have been successful.
13th Aug '16 8:18:58 PM UmbrellasWereAwesome
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* ''VideoGame/HaloCombatEvolved'' ironically manages this with a 7.62mm battle rifle, the UNSC [=MA5B=] Assault Rifle. It's looked down upon as it requires emptying its whole magazine to take down a fully-shielded enemy, and almost every truly dangerous target you can shoot with it will be shielded.

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* ''Franchise/{{Halo}}'':
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''VideoGame/HaloCombatEvolved'' ironically manages this with a 7.62mm battle rifle, the UNSC [=MA5B=] Assault Rifle. It's looked down upon as it requires emptying its whole magazine to take down a fully-shielded enemy, and almost every truly dangerous target you can shoot with it will be shielded.
13th Aug '16 4:47:00 PM nombretomado
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-->'''Instructor:''' Who do you think you are: ClintEastwood? You are not goddamn DirtyHarry! You want to carry cannon in your pocket? You are agent, secret agent. In your job, this is your gun: .22 calibre Beretta. Oh, you want [[{{BFG}} big gun]]? [snip] If your enemy tank, no gun big enough. You want bazooka. [[BoringButPractical If your enemy man, little gun enough.]]

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-->'''Instructor:''' Who do you think you are: ClintEastwood? Creator/ClintEastwood? You are not goddamn DirtyHarry! Film/DirtyHarry! You want to carry cannon in your pocket? You are agent, secret agent. In your job, this is your gun: .22 calibre Beretta. Oh, you want [[{{BFG}} big gun]]? [snip] If your enemy tank, no gun big enough. You want bazooka. [[BoringButPractical If your enemy man, little gun enough.]]
9th Aug '16 4:17:14 AM Ripburger
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* ''VideoGame/XCom: Terror From The Deep'' will start players with dart and harpoon based weapons, among other things. The dart pistol is weak to the point of uselessness. It does so little damage that Aquatoids, the weakest starting enemies, will take at least three direct hits to bring them down, whereas the harpoon rifle will often drop an Aquatoid where it stands after just one shot. For the price of the dart pistol and a single clip of 12 darts, you might as well buy three grenades and actually ''kill'' some of the aliens instead.

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* ''VideoGame/XCom: Terror From The Deep'' ''VideoGame/XCOMTerrorFromTheDeep'' will start players with dart and harpoon based weapons, among other things. The dart pistol is weak to the point of uselessness. It does so little damage that Aquatoids, the weakest starting enemies, will take at least three direct hits to bring them down, whereas the harpoon rifle will often drop an Aquatoid where it stands after just one shot. For the price of the dart pistol and a single clip of 12 darts, you might as well buy three grenades and actually ''kill'' some of the aliens instead.
2nd Aug '16 2:46:19 PM CynicalBastardo
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** In the comic ''A Dame To Kill For'', the main character, Dwight, is shot up pretty badly by the title character, a FemmeFatale to the last. As Marv is hauling him to Old Town, he comments: "...Here I am jabbering with you leaking all over the place. You're damn lucky all that dame had was a .32 -- we wouldn't even be having this conversation if she'd used a real gun on you. Even so, getting shot in the face isn't high on my list of how to have a good time."

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** In the comic ''A Dame To Kill For'', the main character, Dwight, is shot up pretty badly by the title character, a FemmeFatale to the last. As Marv is hauling him to Old Town, he comments: "...Here I am jabbering with you leaking all over the place. You're damn lucky all that dame had was a .32 -- we wouldn't even be having this conversation if she'd used a real gun on you. Even so, getting shot in the face isn't high on my list of how to have a good time."" The FemmeFatale herself notes that she's not a great shot, adding to this trope.
6th Jul '16 2:22:05 AM Adept
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* Jacqueline's pearl-handed pistol from ''DeathOnTheNile'' is referred to several times as "a toy," but it's also made clear that it's a lethal weapon and Jackie (or someone else) is perfectly capable of killing someone with it.

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* Jacqueline's pearl-handed pistol from ''DeathOnTheNile'' ''Literature/DeathOnTheNile'' is referred to several times as "a toy," but it's also made clear that it's a lethal weapon and Jackie (or someone else) is perfectly capable of killing someone with it.
24th Jun '16 3:33:24 PM CynicalBastardo
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* Bullet Tooth Tony in ''Film/{{Snatch}}'' is shown in a flashback to have been shot by an Asian gangster wielding a small pistol. After six shots, the gangster [[OhCrap realises that Tony isn't dead]] and Tony just bum rushes him with a sword. [[spoiler: Later, Tony is killed when Avi [[IJustShotMarvinInTheFace accidentally shoots him with his own Desert Eagle]], showing that it just takes a bigger gun to do the job.]]
16th Jun '16 4:58:47 PM CaptainCrawdad
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* In ''Film/MenInBlack'', the "noisy cricket" is the size of a small, cheap water pistol, and it's dismissed as "completely useless." It blows a hole through a completely sealed door, and sends you [[BlownAcrossTheRoom flying the opposite direction]] almost as fast. The funny thing is that it functionally ''is'' near-useless, but for the exact opposite reason of what it looks like it would be.
** [[AllThereInTheManual Background materials]] suggest that the Noisy Cricket's standard function is significantly toned down from what is seen; it's meant to be a [[HiddenWeapons holdout gun]]. It's given in an overpowered state to rookie agents as an object lesson... or a form of hazing. In ''Film/MenInBlackII'', Agent K [[spoiler: in his neuralized state]] is given one that does not have the comical level of overcharging, and in [[WesternAnimation/MenInBlack the animated series]] J receives a silencer for his that reduces the power of each shot but also allows him to fire it without bowling himself over.

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* In ''Film/MenInBlack'', the "noisy cricket" is the size of a small, cheap water pistol, and it's dismissed as "completely useless." It blows a hole through a completely sealed door, and sends you [[BlownAcrossTheRoom flying the opposite direction]] almost as fast. The funny thing is that it functionally ''is'' near-useless, but for the exact opposite reason of what it looks like it would be.
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be. [[AllThereInTheManual Background materials]] suggest that the Noisy Cricket's standard function is significantly toned down from what is seen; it's meant to be a [[HiddenWeapons holdout gun]]. It's given in an overpowered state to rookie agents as an object lesson... or a form of hazing. In ''Film/MenInBlackII'', Agent K [[spoiler: in his neuralized state]] is given one that does not have the comical level of overcharging, and in [[WesternAnimation/MenInBlack the animated series]] J receives a silencer for his that reduces the power of each shot but also allows him to fire it without bowling himself over.
13th Jun '16 8:41:19 PM Miracle@StOlaf
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* The ''Franchise/ResidentEvil'' series rarely features small-bore weapons, but they avert this whenever they do appear. The Calico M100-P guns you can find in ''Code: Veronica'' are large handguns chambered in the comparably tiny [=.22LR=], and can do slightly more damage per shot than the basic 9mm handgun. Meanwhile, the Derringer you can find in the 2002 [=REmake=] has only one unfired [=.22WMR=] round, but it can kill ''any'' regular enemy with its single shot.



* An interview with a veteran Australian policewoman had her saying how female officers used to be trained on a .22 automatic 'ladies gun' instead of the issue .38 special revolver. The weapon was useless not because of its low calibre, but because [[ReliablyUnreliableGuns it kept jamming all the time]].

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* An interview with a veteran Australian policewoman had her saying how female officers used to be trained on a .22 automatic 'ladies gun' instead of the issue .38 special revolver. The weapon was useless not because of its low calibre, but because [[ReliablyUnreliableGuns it kept jamming all the time]].time]] ([[TruthInTelevision Many .22 autoloading pistols are very finicky about the ammunition you feed them]]).
13th Jun '16 10:36:36 AM ajbit26
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* The weakest gun in ''Franchise/ResidentEvil'' tends to be a standard or customized Beretta (the Beretta 92F in most of the games, the 92F Inox in the director's cut of the [[VideoGame/ResidentEvil first game]], and the 93R in ''VideoGame/ResidentEvilCodeVeronica''). In ''VideoGame/ResidentEvil6'', it's replaced with the 909, being the starting weapon for both Chris and Jake. In a bit of irony, the Derringer you find in the first game's remake is powerful enough to kill anything that's not a boss in one bullet - lucky given that that's all you get for it.
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