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24th Jun '16 3:33:24 PM CynicalBastardo
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* Bullet Tooth Tony in ''Film/{{Snatch}}'' is shown in a flashback to have been shot by an Asian gangster wielding a small pistol. After six shots, the gangster [[OhCrap realises that Tony isn't dead]] and Tony just bum rushes him with a sword. [[spoiler: Later, Tony is killed when Avi [[IJustShotMarvinInTheFace accidentally shoots him with his own Desert Eagle]], showing that it just takes a bigger gun to do the job.]]
16th Jun '16 4:58:47 PM CaptainCrawdad
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* In ''Film/MenInBlack'', the "noisy cricket" is the size of a small, cheap water pistol, and it's dismissed as "completely useless." It blows a hole through a completely sealed door, and sends you [[BlownAcrossTheRoom flying the opposite direction]] almost as fast. The funny thing is that it functionally ''is'' near-useless, but for the exact opposite reason of what it looks like it would be.
** [[AllThereInTheManual Background materials]] suggest that the Noisy Cricket's standard function is significantly toned down from what is seen; it's meant to be a [[HiddenWeapons holdout gun]]. It's given in an overpowered state to rookie agents as an object lesson... or a form of hazing. In ''Film/MenInBlackII'', Agent K [[spoiler: in his neuralized state]] is given one that does not have the comical level of overcharging, and in [[WesternAnimation/MenInBlack the animated series]] J receives a silencer for his that reduces the power of each shot but also allows him to fire it without bowling himself over.

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* In ''Film/MenInBlack'', the "noisy cricket" is the size of a small, cheap water pistol, and it's dismissed as "completely useless." It blows a hole through a completely sealed door, and sends you [[BlownAcrossTheRoom flying the opposite direction]] almost as fast. The funny thing is that it functionally ''is'' near-useless, but for the exact opposite reason of what it looks like it would be.
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be. [[AllThereInTheManual Background materials]] suggest that the Noisy Cricket's standard function is significantly toned down from what is seen; it's meant to be a [[HiddenWeapons holdout gun]]. It's given in an overpowered state to rookie agents as an object lesson... or a form of hazing. In ''Film/MenInBlackII'', Agent K [[spoiler: in his neuralized state]] is given one that does not have the comical level of overcharging, and in [[WesternAnimation/MenInBlack the animated series]] J receives a silencer for his that reduces the power of each shot but also allows him to fire it without bowling himself over.
13th Jun '16 8:41:19 PM Miracle@StOlaf
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* The ''Franchise/ResidentEvil'' series rarely features small-bore weapons, but they avert this whenever they do appear. The Calico M100-P guns you can find in ''Code: Veronica'' are large handguns chambered in the comparably tiny [=.22LR=], and can do slightly more damage per shot than the basic 9mm handgun. Meanwhile, the Derringer you can find in the 2002 [=REmake=] has only one unfired [=.22WMR=] round, but it can kill ''any'' regular enemy with its single shot.



* An interview with a veteran Australian policewoman had her saying how female officers used to be trained on a .22 automatic 'ladies gun' instead of the issue .38 special revolver. The weapon was useless not because of its low calibre, but because [[ReliablyUnreliableGuns it kept jamming all the time]].

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* An interview with a veteran Australian policewoman had her saying how female officers used to be trained on a .22 automatic 'ladies gun' instead of the issue .38 special revolver. The weapon was useless not because of its low calibre, but because [[ReliablyUnreliableGuns it kept jamming all the time]].time]] ([[TruthInTelevision Many .22 autoloading pistols are very finicky about the ammunition you feed them]]).
13th Jun '16 10:36:36 AM ajbit26
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* The weakest gun in ''Franchise/ResidentEvil'' tends to be a standard or customized Beretta (the Beretta 92F in most of the games, the 92F Inox in the director's cut of the [[VideoGame/ResidentEvil first game]], and the 93R in ''VideoGame/ResidentEvilCodeVeronica''). In ''VideoGame/ResidentEvil6'', it's replaced with the 909, being the starting weapon for both Chris and Jake. In a bit of irony, the Derringer you find in the first game's remake is powerful enough to kill anything that's not a boss in one bullet - lucky given that that's all you get for it.
8th Jun '16 4:20:05 PM ajbit26
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There is [[TelevisionIsTryingToKillUs a common perception]] that any round smaller than a .38 Special is essentially a joke bullet unable to do any real damage. The truth is that BulletsDoNotWorkThatWay. Guns, by definition, are weapons that are designed to kill. Just about any gun made today can inflict a mortal wound in one shot, though a small caliber bullet probably won't drop you on the spot. Even the oft mocked .22 Short can tear deep enough into a human body to tear major veins and arteries, and if the bullet reaches the throat or vital organs the damage ''will'' be severe. Even air weapons firing small pellets at low speed can inflict lethal injuries if they hit someone in a critical area such as the temple or the heart. This is exactly why airsoft events have very strictly enforced safety rules about minimum engagement distances and protective equipment. It's also why it's both frequently forbidden and a bad idea to use frozen paint balls.

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There is [[TelevisionIsTryingToKillUs a common perception]] that any round smaller than a .38 Special is essentially a joke bullet unable to do any real damage. The truth is that BulletsDoNotWorkThatWay. Guns, by definition, are weapons that are designed to kill. Just about any gun made today can inflict a mortal wound in one shot, though a small caliber bullet probably won't drop you on the spot. Even the oft mocked .22 Short can tear deep enough into a human body to tear major veins and arteries, and if the bullet reaches the throat or vital organs the damage ''will'' be severe. Even air weapons firing small pellets at low speed can inflict lethal injuries if they hit someone in a critical area such as the temple or the heart. This is exactly why airsoft air soft events have very strictly enforced safety rules about minimum engagement distances and protective equipment. It's also why it's both frequently forbidden and a bad idea to use frozen paint balls.



On the other hand, small-caliber firearms, such as .22 rimfire "Purse Guns" are ''worthless'' against most forms of ballistic armor, will stop a small caliber round ''flat''. Higher caliber pistols like the .45 and 9mm are more likely to get through, but aren't guranteed, while rifle rounds like the 5.56 will go clean through, and require modern heavy-duty armor to have any chance of stopping them, and even then will likely be bruised or even have broken bones from the force of the shot.

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On the other hand, small-caliber firearms, such as .22 rimfire "Purse Guns" are ''worthless'' against most forms of ballistic armor, which will stop a small caliber round ''flat''.''flat''. Literally. Higher caliber pistols like the .45 and 9mm are more likely to get through, but aren't guranteed, guaranteed, while rifle rounds like the 5.56 will go clean through, and require modern heavy-duty armor to have any chance of stopping them, and even then will likely be bruised or even have broken bones from the force of the shot.
17th May '16 11:45:02 PM chc232323
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* KnightsOfTheOldRepublic I and II gave enemies health based on the DungeonsAndDragons-based StarWars d20 RPG, which meant that the pitiful damage done by hold-out blasters and even the blaster pistol would wind up useless very, very quickly. In the first game, lightsabers and force powers overshadowed blasters so much that non-Jedi party members had little role in combat, while in the second game, a modified HandCannon or BFG could be viable, if suboptimal.
13th May '16 7:03:56 AM TheWildWestPyro
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** In ''Film/LicenceToKill'', when Bond meets up with Pam Bouvier, she asks him if he's armed. He shows her his PPK, which she derides. She shows him her [[SawedOffShotgun sawed-off]][[CoolGuns/{{Shotguns}} Mossberg 500]] and tells him to just stay down if trouble happens. Ironically Pam herself [[MythologyGag uses various .25 Berettas]] later in the movie, one of which she lends to Bond.

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** In ''Film/LicenceToKill'', when Bond meets up with Pam Bouvier, she asks him if he's armed. He shows her his PPK, which she derides. She shows him her [[SawedOffShotgun sawed-off]][[CoolGuns/{{Shotguns}} sawed-off]] [[CoolGuns/{{Shotguns}} Mossberg 500]] and tells him to just stay down if trouble happens. Ironically Pam herself [[MythologyGag uses various .25 Berettas]] later in the movie, one of which she lends to Bond.
13th May '16 7:03:29 AM TheWildWestPyro
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'''Armourer:''' Walther PPK. 7.65mm with a delivery like a brick through a plate-glass window.
** The film version, ironically, gets it backwards; in that scene, Bond is instead turning in the Beretta 1934 in .380 ACP, which M continues to disparage as he proceeds to force Bond to use a ''lower''-caliber weapon (not that it matters too much, since the actual Walther used in the film was the larger PP in the same caliber as the M1934). Calibre size is not the only reason he has to turn it in, at least, as his [[ReliablyUnreliableGuns Beretta had jammed on him]] and he was wounded as a result (in the preceding book, ''From Russia With Love'', it became stuck in a holster when Bond attached a suppressor to it, allowing him to be stabbed with a poisoned knife; this was not included in the film version, as the chronology was changed between films).

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'''Armourer:''' Walther PPK. 7.65mm with a delivery like a brick through a plate-glass window.
window. The American CIA swear by them.
** The film version, ironically, gets it backwards; in that scene, Bond is instead turning in the a Beretta 1934 in .380 ACP, which M continues to disparage as he proceeds to force Bond to use a ''lower''-caliber weapon (not that it matters too much, since the actual Walther used in the film was the larger PP in the same caliber as the M1934). Calibre size is not the only reason he has to turn it in, at least, as his [[ReliablyUnreliableGuns Beretta had jammed on him]] and he was wounded as a result (in the preceding book, ''From Russia With Love'', it became stuck in a holster when Bond attached a suppressor to it, allowing him to be stabbed with a poisoned knife; this was not included in the film version, as the chronology was changed between films).



** In ''Film/LicenceToKill'', when Bond meets up with Pam Bouvier, she asks him if he's armed. He shows her his PPK, which she derides. She shows him her [[ShotgunsAreJustBetter shotgun]] and tells him to just stay down if trouble happens. Ironically Pam herself [[MythologyGag uses various .25 Berettas]] later in the movie, one of which she lends to Bond.

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** In ''Film/LicenceToKill'', when Bond meets up with Pam Bouvier, she asks him if he's armed. He shows her his PPK, which she derides. She shows him her [[ShotgunsAreJustBetter shotgun]] [[SawedOffShotgun sawed-off]][[CoolGuns/{{Shotguns}} Mossberg 500]] and tells him to just stay down if trouble happens. Ironically Pam herself [[MythologyGag uses various .25 Berettas]] later in the movie, one of which she lends to Bond.
2nd May '16 7:05:38 PM DarthWalrus
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On the other hand, small-caliber firearms, such as .22 rimfire "Purse Guns" are ''worthless'' against most forms of ballistic armor, will stop a small caliber round ''flat''. Higher caliber pistols like the .45 and 9mm are more likely to get through, but aren't guranteed, while rifle rounds like the 5.56 will go clean through, and require modern heavy-duty armor to have any chance of stopping them, and even then will likely be bruised or even have broken bones from the force of the shot.
25th Apr '16 7:21:21 AM Medinoc
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* Subverted in the case of PerrySaturn. He came across two men attempting to rape a woman and fought them off, having received what he thought was a punch. Turns out, he'd been shot with a .25 pistol. While he survived, he was forced to retire from wrestling for a number of years, as doctors refused to clear him medically.

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* Subverted in the case of PerrySaturn.Wrestling/PerrySaturn. He came across two men attempting to rape a woman and fought them off, having received what he thought was a punch. Turns out, he'd been shot with a .25 pistol. While he survived, he was forced to retire from wrestling for a number of years, as doctors refused to clear him medically.
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