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6th Sep '17 11:21:42 AM CosmicFerret
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** ''TheFlash'' suffered this again in the ComicBook/{{New 52}}, at least for the vast majority of its publication. Wally West was completely removed from the DCU, Jay Garrick is on [[ComicBook/{{Earth 2}} another Earth]], Max Mercury and the Quicks don't exist, and neither do any evil speedsters aside from new character Daniel West. Bart Allen still exists, but doesn't have a real connection to Barry and was PutOnABus after ''Teen Titans'' ended. ''ComicBook/DCRebirth'' and the associated Flash-related titles went out of their way to ''avert'' this: the original Wally West returns during the event, the New 52 Wally West got a bigger push as Kid Flash, the Justice Society is returning, Jay being the first member specifically referred to, and ''Flash'' writer Joshua Williamson has confirmed that Max Mercury is returning, and the Speed Force mantra the Quicks use being shown.

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** ''TheFlash'' ''ComicBook/TheFlash'' suffered this again in the ComicBook/{{New 52}}, at least for the vast majority of its publication. Wally West was completely removed from the DCU, Jay Garrick is on [[ComicBook/{{Earth 2}} another Earth]], Max Mercury and the Quicks don't exist, and neither do any evil speedsters aside from new character Daniel West. Bart Allen still exists, but doesn't have a real connection to Barry and was PutOnABus after ''Teen Titans'' ended. ''ComicBook/DCRebirth'' and the associated Flash-related titles went out of their way to ''avert'' this: the original Wally West returns during the event, the New 52 Wally West got a bigger push as Kid Flash, the Justice Society is returning, Jay being the first member specifically referred to, and ''Flash'' writer Joshua Williamson has confirmed that Max Mercury is returning, and the Speed Force mantra the Quicks use being shown.
24th May '17 10:00:40 AM nighttrainfm
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* The 2005 revival of ''Series/DoctorWho'' set up the complete destruction of Gallifrey in its BackStory, leaving the Doctor as the last of the Time Lords, [[spoiler: until the Master returned at the end of the third season]].
** Unlike most examples of this trope, however, Series/{{Doctor Who}}'s LegacyImplosion has (a) been reasonably popular and (b) stuck. This was because (a), the new series is phenomenally popular, and a large faction of fans of the older one viewed the Time Lords as a dull culture with a severe tendency to provoke ContinuityLockOut. And as for (b), the only Time Lords seen in the new series are [[spoiler: the Master, and a ShadowArchetype seems like a reasonable exception to a "last of the..." rule]], and some others brought back briefly and temporarily by TimeTravel. [[spoiler: Gallifrey is saved in the post-Series 7 50th anniversary special, absolving the Doctor the guilt of the genocide. He doesn't ''return'' to it until the end of '''Series 9''' -- and having been betrayed and tortured by the Time Lords and lost his beloved companion Clara to the grave along the way, he tries to save her and becomes a renegade on the run once more. Also, Gallifrey and its people are now deliberately ''hidden'' at the end of time so enemies won't find them, meaning the revival proceeds as usual otherwise. The exception so far is, once again, the Master!]]

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* ''Series/DoctorWho'':
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The 2005 revival of ''Series/DoctorWho'' set up the complete destruction of Gallifrey in its BackStory, leaving the Doctor as the last of the Time Lords, [[spoiler: until the Master returned at the end of the third season]].
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** Unlike most examples of this trope, however, Series/{{Doctor Who}}'s LegacyImplosion has (a) been reasonably popular and (b) stuck. This was because (a), the new series is phenomenally popular, and a large faction of fans of the older one viewed the Time Lords as a dull culture with a severe tendency to provoke ContinuityLockOut. And as for (b), the only Time Lords seen in the new series are [[spoiler: the Master, and a ShadowArchetype seems like a reasonable exception to a "last of the..." rule]], rule,]] and some others brought back briefly and temporarily by TimeTravel. [[spoiler: Gallifrey is saved in the post-Series 7 50th anniversary special, absolving the Doctor the guilt of the genocide. He doesn't ''return'' to it until the end of '''Series 9''' -- and having been betrayed and tortured by the Time Lords and lost his beloved companion Clara to the grave along the way, he tries to save her and becomes a renegade on the run once more. Also, Gallifrey and its people are now deliberately ''hidden'' at the end of time so enemies won't find them, meaning the revival proceeds as usual otherwise. The exception so far is, once again, the Master!]]
8th May '17 8:47:19 AM darkemyst
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* Following "War Games", Franchise/{{Batman}}'s TrueCompanions were imploded piece-by-piece, with the exceptions of marketable stalwarts Robin and Nightwing. Orpheus dead, Spoiler dead [[StuffedIntoTheFridge for dubious reasons]], long-time confidant Leslie Thompkins implicated in killing the latter "to teach Batman a lesson", current Batgirl Cassandra Cain realizing a FaceHeelTurn, former Batgirl Oracle bombed out of her headquarters and sent away from Gotham City along with her Birds of Prey team, Onyx inexplicably vanished from the books, Commissioner Gordon (who'd already retired by then) moving out of Gotham, the rest of the GCPD pretty much turning against him... Some of these got [[AuthorsSavingThrow undone]]: Steph [[BackFromTheDead wasn't really dead]], and became the new Batgirl, Cass turned out to be under mind-control and joined Batman Incorporated as Black Bat, Jim Gordon moved back and was reinstated as commissioner, the GCPD resumed relations with Batman, and Babs returned to the Bat-fold as Batman Inc's computer specialist.
** As of the ComicBook/{{New 52}}, Babs is Batgirl again, however the fate (or existence) of the others is currently unknown. (WordOfGod is that Stephanie and Cassandra are "[[ChuckCunninghamSyndrome toxic]]"). Both Cassandra and Stephanie later returned, but thanks to the new continuity, neither was ever Batgirl.

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* Following "War Games", Franchise/{{Batman}}'s TrueCompanions were imploded piece-by-piece, with the exceptions of marketable stalwarts Robin [[Comicbook/RobinSeries Robin]] and Nightwing. ComicBook/{{Nightwing}}. Orpheus dead, Spoiler dead [[StuffedIntoTheFridge for dubious reasons]], long-time confidant Leslie Thompkins implicated in killing the latter "to teach Batman a lesson", current Batgirl [[Comicbook/Batgirl2000 Batgirl]] Cassandra Cain realizing a FaceHeelTurn, former Batgirl Oracle bombed out of her headquarters and sent away from Gotham City along with her [[ComicBook/BirdsOfPrey Birds of Prey Prey]] team, Onyx inexplicably vanished from the books, Commissioner Gordon (who'd already retired by then) moving out of Gotham, the rest of the GCPD pretty much turning against him... Some of these got [[AuthorsSavingThrow undone]]: Steph [[BackFromTheDead wasn't really dead]], and became the new Batgirl, [[Comicbook/Batgirl2009 Batgirl]], Cass turned out to be under mind-control and joined Batman Incorporated as Black Bat, Jim Gordon moved back and was reinstated as commissioner, the GCPD resumed relations with Batman, and Babs returned to the Bat-fold as Batman Inc's computer specialist.
** As of the ComicBook/{{New 52}}, Babs is Batgirl again, again in a [[BrokenBase basebreaking]] aversion of SidekickGraduationsStick ''and'' KidHeroAllGrownUp while removing one of [=DCs=] most prominent disabled heroes, however the fate (or existence) of the others is currently unknown. (WordOfGod is that Stephanie and Cassandra are "[[ChuckCunninghamSyndrome toxic]]"). Both Cassandra and Stephanie later returned, but thanks to the [[RetGone new continuity, continuity]], neither was ever Batgirl.
21st Apr '17 11:57:31 PM StrixObscuro
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* The same thing happened with ComicBook/TheVision, who also died during ''Disassembled''. As soon as Creator/BrianBendis brought the original Vision back and had him rejoin ''Comicbook/TheAvengers'', the teen Vision from ''YoungAvengers'' [[DroppedABridgeOnHim had a bridge dropped on him]] in the finale of ''Comicbook/TheChildrensCrusade''.

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* The same thing happened with ComicBook/TheVision, who also died during ''Disassembled''. As soon as Creator/BrianBendis brought the original Vision back and had him rejoin ''Comicbook/TheAvengers'', the teen Vision from ''YoungAvengers'' ''ComicBook/YoungAvengers'' [[DroppedABridgeOnHim had a bridge dropped on him]] in the finale of ''Comicbook/TheChildrensCrusade''. ''Comicbook/TheChildrensCrusade''.
** On a similar note, ''ComicBook/TheVision2015'' killed off [[ComicBook/{{Runaways}} Victor Mancha]], Vision's half-brother, so that Vision himself would be the sole "son" of Ultron.
18th Mar '17 9:54:48 AM VicGeorge2011
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* ''ComicBook/ShazamTheNewBeginning'' did this as DC Comics' first official PostCrisis reboot of [[ComicBook/{{Shazam}} Captain Marvel]] to eliminate the extensive Marvel Family and have Billy Batson be the sole recipient of Shazam's powers, barring his EvilCounterpart Black Adam. However, this was rendered CanonDiscontinuity with the second reboot effort ''The Power Of Shazam!'', which brought back at least Mary Marvel and Captain Marvel Jr.
4th Mar '17 4:12:13 PM nombretomado
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* MarvelComics did this to the ComicBook/XMen with ''House of M/Decimation''; millions of mutants all over the world were depowered, except for 198, supposedly chosen at random. Very few characters anyone cared about at all lost their powers, and those who did gained them back pretty quickly. Recently, a new mutant baby has been born, signaling the return of mutants to the wider MarvelUniverse.

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* MarvelComics Marvel did this to the ComicBook/XMen with ''House of M/Decimation''; millions of mutants all over the world were depowered, except for 198, supposedly chosen at random. Very few characters anyone cared about at all lost their powers, and those who did gained them back pretty quickly. Recently, a new mutant baby has been born, signaling the return of mutants to the wider MarvelUniverse.
28th Oct '16 7:24:47 AM XSpectreGreyX
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** ''TheFlash'' suffered this again in the ComicBook/{{New 52}}, at least for the vast majority of its publication. Wally West was completely removed from the DCU, Jay Garrick is on [[ComicBook/{{Earth 2}} another Earth]], Max Mercury and the Quicks don't exist, and neither do any evil speedsters aside from new character Daniel West. Bart Allen still exists, but doesn't have a real connection to Barry and was PutOnABus after ''Teen Titans'' ended. ''ComicBook/DCRebirth'' and the associated Flash-related titles went out of their way to ''avert'' this: Wally West returns during the event, Wally West II got a bigger push as Kid Flash, the Justice Society is returning and Max Mercury is returning.
** The Reverse-Flashes, also in the New 52. The Rival doesn't even appear in ''Earth 2'' where his nemesis Jay Garrick is. Eobard Thawne was unseen for ''years'', but eventually returned, though he never uses the name Reverse-Flash and goes exclusively by Professor Zoom. Hunter Zolomon doesn't exist, as neither did Wally for most of the New 52. Thadeus Thawne was absent aside from ''maybe'' a cameo in that Bart Allen once wore a costume with the same colour scheme as Bart's. The only Reverse-Flash was Daniel West, and he's still the only evil speedster to use that name. Johnny Quick from Earth 3 was also an evil speedster, but he was only used for the ''ComicBook/ForeverEvil'' crossover.

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** ''TheFlash'' suffered this again in the ComicBook/{{New 52}}, at least for the vast majority of its publication. Wally West was completely removed from the DCU, Jay Garrick is on [[ComicBook/{{Earth 2}} another Earth]], Max Mercury and the Quicks don't exist, and neither do any evil speedsters aside from new character Daniel West. Bart Allen still exists, but doesn't have a real connection to Barry and was PutOnABus after ''Teen Titans'' ended. ''ComicBook/DCRebirth'' and the associated Flash-related titles went out of their way to ''avert'' this: the original Wally West returns during the event, the New 52 Wally West II got a bigger push as Kid Flash, the Justice Society is returning returning, Jay being the first member specifically referred to, and ''Flash'' writer Joshua Williamson has confirmed that Max Mercury is returning.
returning, and the Speed Force mantra the Quicks use being shown.
** The Reverse-Flashes, also in the New 52. The Rival doesn't even appear in ''Earth 2'' where his nemesis Jay Garrick is. Eobard Thawne was unseen for ''years'', but eventually returned, though he never uses the name Reverse-Flash and goes exclusively by Professor Zoom. Hunter Zolomon doesn't exist, as neither did Wally for most of the New 52. Thadeus Thaddeus Thawne was absent aside from ''maybe'' a cameo in that Bart Allen once wore a costume with the same colour scheme as Bart's.Thad's in a flashback. The only Reverse-Flash was Daniel West, and he's still the only evil speedster to use that name. Johnny Quick from Earth 3 was also an evil speedster, but he was only used for the ''ComicBook/ForeverEvil'' crossover.
4th Oct '16 2:01:49 AM XSpectreGreyX
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* Following "War Games", Franchise/{{Batman}}'s TrueCompanions were imploded piece-by-piece, with the exceptions of marketable stalwarts Robin and Nightwing. Orpheus dead, Spoiler dead [[StuffedIntoTheFridge for dubious reasons]], long-time confidant Leslie Thompkins implicated in killing the latter "to teach Batman a lesson", current Batgirl realizing a FaceHeelTurn, former Batgirl Oracle bombed out of her headquarters and sent away from Gotham City along with her Birds of Prey team, Onyx inexplicably vanished from the books, Commissioner Gordon (who'd already retired by then) moving out of Gotham, the rest of the GCPD pretty much turning against him... Some of these got [[AuthorsSavingThrow undone]]: Steph [[BackFromTheDead wasn't really dead]], and became the new Batgirl, Cassie turned out to be under mind-control and joined Batman Incorporated as Black Bat, Jim Gordon moved back and was reinstated as commissioner, the GCPD resmued relations with Batman, and Babs returned to the Bat-fold as Batman Inc's computer specialist. As of the ComicBook/{{New 52}}, Babs is Batgirl again, however the fate (or existence) of the others is currently unknown. (WordOfGod is that Stephanie and Cassandra are "[[ChuckCunninghamSyndrome toxic]]"). Both Cassandra and Stephanie later returned, but thanks to the new continuity, neither girl was ever Batgirl.

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* Following "War Games", Franchise/{{Batman}}'s TrueCompanions were imploded piece-by-piece, with the exceptions of marketable stalwarts Robin and Nightwing. Orpheus dead, Spoiler dead [[StuffedIntoTheFridge for dubious reasons]], long-time confidant Leslie Thompkins implicated in killing the latter "to teach Batman a lesson", current Batgirl Cassandra Cain realizing a FaceHeelTurn, former Batgirl Oracle bombed out of her headquarters and sent away from Gotham City along with her Birds of Prey team, Onyx inexplicably vanished from the books, Commissioner Gordon (who'd already retired by then) moving out of Gotham, the rest of the GCPD pretty much turning against him... Some of these got [[AuthorsSavingThrow undone]]: Steph [[BackFromTheDead wasn't really dead]], and became the new Batgirl, Cassie Cass turned out to be under mind-control and joined Batman Incorporated as Black Bat, Jim Gordon moved back and was reinstated as commissioner, the GCPD resmued resumed relations with Batman, and Babs returned to the Bat-fold as Batman Inc's computer specialist. specialist.
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As of the ComicBook/{{New 52}}, Babs is Batgirl again, however the fate (or existence) of the others is currently unknown. (WordOfGod is that Stephanie and Cassandra are "[[ChuckCunninghamSyndrome toxic]]"). Both Cassandra and Stephanie later returned, but thanks to the new continuity, neither girl was ever Batgirl.
1st Oct '16 7:53:47 AM Tron80
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* The biggest ComicBook/PostCrisis change to Comicbook/{{Superman}} was the decision that "last son of Krypton" meant ''last'', as in no other Kryptonians ever, period. General Zod becomes a Russian, Kandor becomes an alien ghetto and thus devoid of actual Kryptonians, ComicBook/PowerGirl becomes an [[{{Atlantis}} Atlantean]], and ComicBook/{{Supergirl}} becomes... uh, [[ContinuitySnarl you'd better see that entry for yourself]]. They've lightened up on that in recent years, without returning to constantly tripping over one more Kryptonian a la pre-Crisis comics (or ''Series/{{Smallville}}''), as various writers attempted to reclaim the concepts ''without'' hitting the ResetButton -- [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Krypton at least, so fa-.]]

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* Franchise/{{Superman}}:
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The biggest ComicBook/PostCrisis change to Comicbook/{{Superman}} Superman was the decision that "last son of Krypton" meant ''last'', as in no other Kryptonians ever, period. General Zod becomes a Russian, Kandor becomes an alien ghetto and thus devoid of actual Kryptonians, ComicBook/PowerGirl becomes an [[{{Atlantis}} Atlantean]], Atlantean, and ComicBook/{{Supergirl}} becomes... uh, [[ContinuitySnarl you'd better see that entry for yourself]]. They've dies and becomes replaced by non-Kryptonian Supergirls.
** After a while they
lightened up on that in recent years, without returning to constantly tripping over one more Kryptonian a la pre-Crisis comics (or ''Series/{{Smallville}}''), that, as various writers attempted to reclaim the concepts ''without'' hitting the ResetButton -- [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Krypton at least, so fa-.]]ResetButton: Supergirl is Superman's cousin Kara Zor-El again, Power Girl is Earth-2 Supergirl again, Comicbook/KryptoTheSuperdog still exists, Zod is a Kryptonian war criminal, and Argo City and Kandor are again Kryptonian cities.
26th Sep '16 3:43:51 AM XSpectreGreyX
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** The Reverse-Flashes, also in the New 52. The Rival doesn't even appear in ''Earth 2'' where his nemesis Jay Garrick is. Eobard Thawne was unseen for ''years'', but eventually returned, though he never uses the name Reverse-Flash and goes exclusively by Professor Zoom. Hunter Zolomon doesn't exist, as neither did Wally for most of the New 52. Thadeus Thawne was absent aside from ''maybe'' a cameo in that Bart Allen once wore a costume with the same colour scheme as Bart's. The only Reverse-Flash was Daniel West, and he's still the only evil speedster to use that name. Johnny Quick from Earth 3 was also an evil speedster, but he was only used for the ''ComicBook/ForeverEvil'' crossover.
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