History Main / LeeOfTheUnion

28th Apr '15 1:02:51 AM SeptimusHeap
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''Lee of the Union'' is an alternate history timeline by Uncle Mike posted [[http://s11.zetaboards.com/Different_Worlds/topic/311866/?author=81688 here]] (N.B.: the forum is now closed). The premise is that Robert E. Lee decides to go with the Union instead of siding with the Confederacy like his home state. The result is a different UsefulNotes/TheAmericanCivilWar that ends by 1862. America from then on solves the issues of women's rights and racism earlier than in the real world. Much like as in the real world, America fought two world wars and a cold war. This timeline ends with the election of Hillary Clinton to the presidency.

Naturally, this timeline is notable for the controversy it's incurred. Both its original home of Othertimelines and its new home of Different Worlds have a cottage industry of people picking at various implausibilities within it. The lack of dramatic sociopolitical or geopolitical changes is another major flaw. This timeline has thus developed a rather large {{hatedom}} who even takes the time to get into lengthy debates with the timeline's author. [[{{Mikado}} One]] even wrote a trollfic where somebody implied to be the timeline's author travels back in time, returns to the [[TheForties 1940s]] to a totalitarian America and gets incarcerated for looking Slavic. The short story ends with the nuclear destruction of Newark, New Jersey.
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!!Tropes present in LOTU
* AlternateHistory: Thank God.
* AlternateHistoryWank: Not of an actual country, but a particular ideology.
** AlternateHistoryScrew: With particular glee taken in maligning those the author hates.
* AuthorAppeal: The absolute tweeness of this timeline. A president dies on 11/22/1963 and there's some disaster on 9/11/2001. This is all despite a divergence point in 1861.
** MarySuetopia: The United States in ''Lee of the Union''. The political mainstream is in the author's populist, vaguely New Deal liberalism. The cultural environment retains more elements from the 1970s. ''Franchise/StarTrek'' is more popular.
** RoseTintedNarrative: America can do no wrong. The issues of ethnic prejudice, sexism and other forms of oppression are just shuffled under the table.
* AuthorOnBoard: See the above entries for why. Actually, just read all these entires.
* AuthorTract: Just read it to see why.
* {{Eagleland}}: The first portrayal of it is how this America is seen. A benevolent liberal hegemon.
* HollywoodHistory: This is basically the entire timeline of Lee of the Union. The gritty realities of 19th/20th century American history, geopolitics and socioeconomic contexts are shut down in favor of a narrative that favors moderate hero democrat rule.
* InSpiteOfANail: Lee gets elected president in the 1864 election, only to end up assassinated in the same way that Lincoln was in real life.
** PoliticallyCorrectHistory: Women get suffrage in 1872; Indians and blacks get suffrage in the late 19th century without any major problems. Nathan Bedford Forrest shuts down the Ku Klux Klan early and works to keep it down. Must I go on?
** PopularHistory: 1960s and 1970s cultural icons do well.
* StrawmanPolitical: The author's opinion and portrayal of conservatives, among other things. Nearly any Republican elected President in this timeline (unless his name is Roosevelt) is set up for a huge fall. He even has Joe [=McCarthy=] as President and turns Reagan into a strawman version of himself! He even admits his desire to "punish" Florida for what he perceives as its role in electing George W. Bush.
** Basically, Republicans can do no right and Democrats no wrong. If the author likes you, you've got it made in this TL. If he doesn't...
* WhatIf: This is bad. but it's still an alternate history.
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''Lee of the Union'' is an alternate history timeline by Uncle Mike posted [[http://s11.zetaboards.com/Different_Worlds/topic/311866/?author=81688 here]] (N.B.: the forum is now closed). The premise is that Robert E. Lee decides to go with the Union instead of siding with the Confederacy like his home state. The result is a different UsefulNotes/TheAmericanCivilWar that ends by 1862. America from then on solves the issues of women's rights and racism earlier than in the real world. Much like as in the real world, America fought two world wars and a cold war. This timeline ends with the election of Hillary Clinton to the presidency.

Naturally, this timeline is notable for the controversy it's incurred. Both its original home of Othertimelines and its new home of Different Worlds have a cottage industry of people picking at various implausibilities within it. The lack of dramatic sociopolitical or geopolitical changes is another major flaw. This timeline has thus developed a rather large {{hatedom}} who even takes the time to get into lengthy debates with the timeline's author. [[{{Mikado}} One]] even wrote a trollfic where somebody implied to be the timeline's author travels back in time, returns to the [[TheForties 1940s]] to a totalitarian America and gets incarcerated for looking Slavic. The short story ends with the nuclear destruction of Newark, New Jersey.
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!!Tropes present in LOTU
* AlternateHistory: Thank God.
* AlternateHistoryWank: Not of an actual country, but a particular ideology.
** AlternateHistoryScrew: With particular glee taken in maligning those the author hates.
* AuthorAppeal: The absolute tweeness of this timeline. A president dies on 11/22/1963 and there's some disaster on 9/11/2001. This is all despite a divergence point in 1861.
** MarySuetopia: The United States in ''Lee of the Union''. The political mainstream is in the author's populist, vaguely New Deal liberalism. The cultural environment retains more elements from the 1970s. ''Franchise/StarTrek'' is more popular.
** RoseTintedNarrative: America can do no wrong. The issues of ethnic prejudice, sexism and other forms of oppression are just shuffled under the table.
* AuthorOnBoard: See the above entries for why. Actually, just read all these entires.
* AuthorTract: Just read it to see why.
* {{Eagleland}}: The first portrayal of it is how this America is seen. A benevolent liberal hegemon.
* HollywoodHistory: This is basically the entire timeline of Lee of the Union. The gritty realities of 19th/20th century American history, geopolitics and socioeconomic contexts are shut down in favor of a narrative that favors moderate hero democrat rule.
* InSpiteOfANail: Lee gets elected president in the 1864 election, only to end up assassinated in the same way that Lincoln was in real life.
** PoliticallyCorrectHistory: Women get suffrage in 1872; Indians and blacks get suffrage in the late 19th century without any major problems. Nathan Bedford Forrest shuts down the Ku Klux Klan early and works to keep it down. Must I go on?
** PopularHistory: 1960s and 1970s cultural icons do well.
* StrawmanPolitical: The author's opinion and portrayal of conservatives, among other things. Nearly any Republican elected President in this timeline (unless his name is Roosevelt) is set up for a huge fall. He even has Joe [=McCarthy=] as President and turns Reagan into a strawman version of himself! He even admits his desire to "punish" Florida for what he perceives as its role in electing George W. Bush.
** Basically, Republicans can do no right and Democrats no wrong. If the author likes you, you've got it made in this TL. If he doesn't...
* WhatIf: This is bad. but it's still an alternate history.
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24th Apr '14 12:36:14 PM LongLiveHumour
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''Lee of the Union'' is an alternate history timeline by Uncle Mike posted [[http://s11.zetaboards.com/Different_Worlds/topic/311866/?author=81688 here]] (N.B.: the forum is now closed). The premise is that Robert E. Lee decides to go with the Union instead of siding with the Confederacy like his home state. The result is a different TheAmericanCivilWar that ends by 1862. America from then on solves the issues of women's rights and racism earlier than in the real world. Much like as in the real world, America fought two world wars and a cold war. This timeline ends with the election of Hillary Clinton to the presidency.

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''Lee of the Union'' is an alternate history timeline by Uncle Mike posted [[http://s11.zetaboards.com/Different_Worlds/topic/311866/?author=81688 here]] (N.B.: the forum is now closed). The premise is that Robert E. Lee decides to go with the Union instead of siding with the Confederacy like his home state. The result is a different TheAmericanCivilWar UsefulNotes/TheAmericanCivilWar that ends by 1862. America from then on solves the issues of women's rights and racism earlier than in the real world. Much like as in the real world, America fought two world wars and a cold war. This timeline ends with the election of Hillary Clinton to the presidency.
18th Jan '13 4:55:36 AM jadmire
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''Lee of the Union'' is an alternate history timeline by Uncle Mike posted [[http://s11.zetaboards.com/Different_Worlds/topic/311866/?author=81688 here]]. The premise is that Robert E. Lee decides to go with the Union instead of siding with the Confederacy like his home state. The result is a different TheAmericanCivilWar that ends by 1862. America from then on solves the issues of women's rights and racism earlier than in the real world. Much like as in the real world, America fought two world wars and a cold war. This timeline ends with the election of Hillary Clinton to the presidency.

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''Lee of the Union'' is an alternate history timeline by Uncle Mike posted [[http://s11.zetaboards.com/Different_Worlds/topic/311866/?author=81688 here]].here]] (N.B.: the forum is now closed). The premise is that Robert E. Lee decides to go with the Union instead of siding with the Confederacy like his home state. The result is a different TheAmericanCivilWar that ends by 1862. America from then on solves the issues of women's rights and racism earlier than in the real world. Much like as in the real world, America fought two world wars and a cold war. This timeline ends with the election of Hillary Clinton to the presidency.
1st Sep '12 10:03:12 PM mlsmithca
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* DidNotDoTheResearch: Virtually the entire content of this timeline after the American Civil War. Also, that trope applies to this author's timelines in general.
** CriticalResearchFailure: Uncle Mike entirely ignores the fact that even a small change in 1861 would result in a radically different world even in 1900, let alone 2007. Also, that the Republican party was the more liberal of the two parties until WWI.
14th Jun '12 10:59:36 AM nombretomado
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** MarySuetopia: The United States in ''Lee of the Union''. The political mainstream is in the author's populist, vaguely New Deal liberalism. The cultural environment retains more elements from the 1970s. ''StarTrek'' is more popular.

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** MarySuetopia: The United States in ''Lee of the Union''. The political mainstream is in the author's populist, vaguely New Deal liberalism. The cultural environment retains more elements from the 1970s. ''StarTrek'' ''Franchise/StarTrek'' is more popular.
20th May '12 11:37:21 AM Nanuq
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** AlternateHistoryScrew: With particular glee taken in maligning those the author hates.
14th Jan '12 4:26:41 AM Byzantine
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''Lee of the Union'' is an alternate history timeline by Uncle Mike posted [[http://s11.zetaboards.com/Different_Worlds/topic/311866/?author=81688 here]]. The premise is that Robert E. Lee decides to go with the Union instead of siding with the Confederacy like his home state. The result is a different AmericanCivilWar that ends by 1862. America from then on solves the issues of women's rights and racism earlier than in the real world. Much like as in the real world, America fought two world wars and a cold war. This timeline ends with the election of Hillary Clinton to the presidency.

to:

''Lee of the Union'' is an alternate history timeline by Uncle Mike posted [[http://s11.zetaboards.com/Different_Worlds/topic/311866/?author=81688 here]]. The premise is that Robert E. Lee decides to go with the Union instead of siding with the Confederacy like his home state. The result is a different AmericanCivilWar TheAmericanCivilWar that ends by 1862. America from then on solves the issues of women's rights and racism earlier than in the real world. Much like as in the real world, America fought two world wars and a cold war. This timeline ends with the election of Hillary Clinton to the presidency.
14th Jan '12 4:26:22 AM Byzantine
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''Lee of the Union'' is an alternate history timeline by Uncle Mike posted [[http://s11.zetaboards.com/Different_Worlds/topic/311866/?author=81688 here]]. The premise is that Robert E. Lee decides to go with the Union instead of siding with the Confederacy like his home state. The result is a different American Civil War that ends by 1862. America from then on solves the issues of women's rights and racism earlier than in the real world. Much like as in the real world, America fought two world wars and a cold war. This timeline ends with the election of Hillary Clinton to the presidency.

Naturally, this timeline is notable for the controversy it's incurred. Both its original home of Othertimelines and its new home of Different Worlds have a cottage industry of people picking at various implausibilities within it. The lack of dramatic sociopolitical or geopolitical changes is another major flaw. This timeline has thus developed a rather large {{hatedom}} who even takes the time to get into lengthy debates with the timeline's author. [[{{Mikado}} One]] even wrote a trollfic where somebody implied to be the timeline's author travels back in time, returns to the 1940s to a totalitarian America and gets incarcerated for looking Slavic. The short story ends with the nuclear destruction of Newark, New Jersey.

to:

''Lee of the Union'' is an alternate history timeline by Uncle Mike posted [[http://s11.zetaboards.com/Different_Worlds/topic/311866/?author=81688 here]]. The premise is that Robert E. Lee decides to go with the Union instead of siding with the Confederacy like his home state. The result is a different American Civil War AmericanCivilWar that ends by 1862. America from then on solves the issues of women's rights and racism earlier than in the real world. Much like as in the real world, America fought two world wars and a cold war. This timeline ends with the election of Hillary Clinton to the presidency.

Naturally, this timeline is notable for the controversy it's incurred. Both its original home of Othertimelines and its new home of Different Worlds have a cottage industry of people picking at various implausibilities within it. The lack of dramatic sociopolitical or geopolitical changes is another major flaw. This timeline has thus developed a rather large {{hatedom}} who even takes the time to get into lengthy debates with the timeline's author. [[{{Mikado}} One]] even wrote a trollfic where somebody implied to be the timeline's author travels back in time, returns to the 1940s [[TheForties 1940s]] to a totalitarian America and gets incarcerated for looking Slavic. The short story ends with the nuclear destruction of Newark, New Jersey.
27th Oct '11 3:44:31 AM TheOneWhoTropes
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* {{Anvilicious}}: This in spades.



* TheyJustDidntCare: The lack of actual historical research for this magnum opus indicates this.
27th Oct '11 3:43:41 AM TheOneWhoTropes
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* {{So Bad Its Good}}/{{So Bad Its Horrible}}: Is the author's political tub-thumping and general ineptness [[NarmCharm funny as hell]] or just [[{{Facepalm}} facepalm-inducing]]? [[YourMileageMayVary You be the judge.]]
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