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6th Sep '16 12:33:05 PM Gosicrystal
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* ''VisualNovel/ZeroEscape'':
** If you play ''VisualNovel/VirtuesLastReward'' before ''[[VisualNovel/NineHoursNinePersonsNineDoors 999]]'' and see that [[spoiler:Junpei has been looking for Akane for decades]], then you know [[spoiler:they won't end up together in 999]], which spoils the question [[spoiler:"Will they or won't they?"]], a driving one in that game.
** ''VisualNovel/ZeroTimeDilemma'' assumes that whoever is playing it has already completed the previous ones, and therefore says the biggest spoilers aloud. YouHaveBeenWarned.
19th Aug '16 6:37:55 AM Morgenthaler
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* A variation: Chapter 6 of ''Webcomic/{{Magellan}}'' carried a mild spoiler for ''Webcomic/{{Crossoverkill}}'': Hoodoo not only survives unscathed, but is pregnant with [[BadGuyHigh Captain Perfect's]] child. WordOfGod says this is due to ScheduleSlip on ''Crossoverkill'' - it was meant to be completed long before the ''Magellan'' story started.

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* A variation: Chapter 6 of ''Webcomic/{{Magellan}}'' carried a mild spoiler for ''Webcomic/{{Crossoverkill}}'': Hoodoo not only survives unscathed, but is pregnant with [[BadGuyHigh [[Webcomic/BadGuyHigh Captain Perfect's]] child. WordOfGod says this is due to ScheduleSlip on ''Crossoverkill'' - it was meant to be completed long before the ''Magellan'' story started.
22nd Jul '16 8:35:16 AM Pichu-kun
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* When ''ComicBook/TheJudasContract'' of the ComicBook/TeenTitans was first published, nobody suspected that Terra, the NaiveNewcomer, would actually be an evil spy. Nowadays, her betrayal has been a recurring past plot for the Titans, and any betrayal (real or supposed) is compared with Terra's. Even more, there was a clone of Terra some years later, always living under the shadow of the actions of the original one. It is unlikely that a modern reader would read the story without knowing in advance what was going to happen.

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* When ''ComicBook/TheJudasContract'' of the ComicBook/TeenTitans was first published, nobody suspected that Terra, the NaiveNewcomer, would actually be an [[TheMole evil spy.spy]]. Nowadays, her betrayal has been a recurring past plot for the Titans, and any betrayal (real or supposed) is compared with Terra's. Even more, there was a clone of Terra some years later, always living under the shadow of the actions of the original one. It is unlikely that a modern reader would read the story without knowing in advance what was going to happen.



* ''WebAnimation/{{RWBY}}'':It's hard to describe anything about Weiss and Blake's S1 character arcs without revealing that Blake is a [[FantasticRacism Faunus.]]

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* ''WebAnimation/{{RWBY}}'':It's ''WebAnimation/{{RWBY}}'':
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hard to describe anything about Weiss and Blake's S1 character arcs without revealing that Blake is a [[FantasticRacism [[{{Catgirl}} Faunus.]]]]
** [[spoiler:Pyrrha]] dies in volume 3. The spinoff ''WebAnimation/RWBYChibi'' assumes all fans have seen up to the end of volume 4 as it makes jokes about it.
19th Jul '16 4:01:12 PM frogpatrol
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Basically, a late arrival spoiler is when a particular revelation in a current work is spoiled by official sources and merchandise. This could be due to a number of factors, like the toy division making an action figure of one of the heroes post-FaceHeelTurn, or showing them off on the front cover. In any case, it all boils down to being spoiled because you started too late. Hence, it's a late arrival spoiler.

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Basically, a late arrival spoiler A '''Late Arrival Spoiler''' is when a particular revelation in a current work is spoiled by official sources and merchandise. This could be due to a number of factors, like the toy division making an action figure of one of the heroes post-FaceHeelTurn, or showing them off on the front cover. In any case, it all boils down to being spoiled because you started too late. Hence, it's a late arrival spoiler.



''Needless to say, all examples may contain spoilers for some people, as described.''

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''Needless to say, ''For obvious reasons, all examples may contain spoilers for some people, as described.''



* There's something about Creator/NeilGaiman and spoileriffic forewords. Frank [=McConnell's=] foreword to the ''ComicBook/TheSandman'' trade paperback "The Kindly Ones" actually features the line, [[spoiler:"Dream dies at the end."]] Not only that, but [=McConnell=] is utterly unapologetic about spoiling it for people who haven't read the comic yet: "Sorry to bust your bubble, but [[spoiler:this is a tragedy, or at least, as classically tragedy has been written in a long time,]] so you should know at the outset how it's going to end." Thanks, Frank, but if Neil Gaiman felt that way, he probably would have started with that scene and flashed back, or had a Greek chorus tell us how the arc would end, or DO ANYTHING BUT TELL THE STORY IN A LINEAR CHRONOLOGICAL FASHION.
** There is a clue in one of the earlier comics: Destiny looks in his book and sees an image of [[spoiler:"Dream, clothed all in white and with white hair."]].
** The above hardly qualifies as a clue, though, since its meaning is difficult to discern until after the fact. The fact that it seems to be one of a thousand throwaway lines (about half of which, admittedly, end up foreshadowing ''something'') doesn't help.
*** What is NOT difficult to discern, however, is the scene that closes the arc immediately before the Kindly Ones, at the Inn At World's End. After all the travelers have told their stories, all the characters are distracted by a literally massive funeral procession dominating the horizon. [[spoiler:In that procession are all of Dream's family and many recognizable faces from previous stories, including characters that only exist because of their ties to Dream, such as Melvyn Pumpkinhead, Nuala, et al. If you look - not even carefully, if you just ''look'', it becomes swiftly impossible not to notice that ALL of these characters are closely tied to Dream... and Dream is the only character not present in the procession. The sequence ends with an image of Death, crying. The sequence did not so much 'heavily foreshadow' Dream's death as much as it ''outright told you it was going to happen.'']]

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* There's something about Creator/NeilGaiman and spoileriffic forewords. Frank [=McConnell's=] foreword to the ''ComicBook/TheSandman'' trade paperback "The Kindly Ones" actually features the line, [[spoiler:"Dream dies at the end."]] Not only that, but [=McConnell=] is utterly unapologetic about spoiling it for people who haven't read the comic yet: "Sorry to bust your bubble, but [[spoiler:this is a tragedy, or at least, as classically tragedy has been written in a long time,]] so you should know at the outset how it's going to end." Thanks, Frank, but if Neil Gaiman felt that way, he probably would have started with that scene and flashed back, or had a Greek chorus tell us how the arc would end, or DO ANYTHING BUT TELL THE STORY IN A LINEAR CHRONOLOGICAL FASHION.
''do anything but tell the story in a chronological fashion''.
** There is a clue in one of the an earlier comics: comic: Destiny looks in his book and sees an image of [[spoiler:"Dream, clothed all in white and with white hair."]].
** The above hardly qualifies as a clue, though, since its meaning is difficult to discern until after the fact. The fact that it seems to be one of a thousand throwaway lines (about half of which, admittedly, end up foreshadowing ''something'') doesn't help.
*** What is NOT ''not'' difficult to discern, however, is the scene that closes the arc immediately before the Kindly Ones, at the Inn At World's End. After all the travelers have told their stories, all the characters are distracted by a literally massive funeral procession dominating the horizon. [[spoiler:In that procession are all of Dream's family and many recognizable faces from previous stories, including characters that only exist because of their ties to Dream, such as Melvyn Pumpkinhead, Nuala, et al. If you look - not even carefully, if you just ''look'', it becomes swiftly impossible not to notice that ALL of these characters are closely tied to Dream... and Dream is the only character not present in the procession. The sequence ends with an image of Death, crying. The sequence did not so much 'heavily foreshadow' Dream's death as much as it ''outright told you it was going to happen.'']]
2nd Jul '16 7:50:52 PM ImpudentInfidel
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** This is especially true of the prequel books. The first book chronologically spoils almost every background twist for the first three mainline books and holds the payoff for a BrickJoke in the chronologically second book (which is still a prequel but released years earlier); the expectation seems to be that they'll be read in release order.
24th Jun '16 11:38:48 AM GlassRain
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* The seventh ''Webcomic/ElectricWonderland'' comic dramatically [[TheReveal revealed]] Lululu's mermaid tail. After Peter Paltridge wrote some character bios in June 2010, newcomers who clicked the "newbie? go here!" button on the Website/PlatypusComix home page could find out about her tail beforehand. The bios also spoil the fact that Natasha Wing, the seemingly random policegirl who appeared at the end of the sixth comic, is actually friends with protagonist Trawn.

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* The seventh ''Webcomic/ElectricWonderland'' comic dramatically [[TheReveal revealed]] Lululu's mermaid tail. After Peter Paltridge wrote some character bios in June 2010, newcomers who clicked the "newbie? go here!" button on the Website/PlatypusComix home page could find out about her tail beforehand. The bios also spoil the fact that Natasha Wing, the seemingly random policegirl police girl who appeared at the end of the sixth comic, is actually friends with protagonist Trawn.



* ''Webcomic/ZebraGirl'': The cast page is not even trying to hide many key events of the story. Particularly the way Sandra eventually succumbs to her demonic urges and becomes a ruthless and cruel demon.



** [[Series/{{Noob}} The webseries]], like many web originals, has a photomontage gallery. The show is set in a MMORPG and most characters have cursor over their head, with a different color depending on their faction. The most recent montages are always the first visible and the series has a couple cases of HeelFaceTurn and one case of EvilAllAlong. When interviewed, the creator tends to assume people listening know what happens in any episode already on the Internet, so it's a bad idea for those new to the series to watch any interviews.

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** [[Series/{{Noob}} The webseries]], like many web originals, has a photomontage photo montage gallery. The show is set in a MMORPG and most characters have cursor over their head, with a different color depending on their faction. The most recent montages are always the first visible and the series has a couple cases of HeelFaceTurn and one case of EvilAllAlong. When interviewed, the creator tends to assume people listening know what happens in any episode already on the Internet, so it's a bad idea for those new to the series to watch any interviews.



* In a non-media related example concerning the 2014 FIFA World Cup, the Costa Rica team was performing way beyond their paygrade and everything seemed to be going fine; cue their elimination and trip back home, where they were received as heroes. [[MistreatmentInducedBetrayal Some days later, coach Jorge Luis Pinto (a Colombian) was dismissed from the national team on the players' accounts of him being one of the most overbearing and accosting people they've ever had to work with; the accusations included the coach showing up at the players' homes when they called in sick to verify that they were actually sick, endless hounding of the players and the support staff, and being a remarkably rude person as a whole]]. Though Costa Rica was thoroughly grateful for his work in the team, they soundly asked him to never, ever come back. If they had bothered to ask why Pinto was ousted from the Colombia National Team, they would have found that a coach like him demands too much patience and that Pinto left few friends at the Colombian Federation, leaving with a reputation of being a remarkably caustic man; granted, he is an incredibly talented coach if you don't mind being stripped of your privacy and dignity. In hindsight, and after reviewing the video evidence, it was noted by the media that none of the players or the support staff in Costa Rica ever celebrated scoring with their coach. When Pinto sought support in the eve of his ousting, he found no friends in his staff.

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* In a non-media related example concerning the 2014 FIFA World Cup, the Costa Rica team was performing way beyond their paygrade pay grade and everything seemed to be going fine; cue their elimination and trip back home, where they were received as heroes. [[MistreatmentInducedBetrayal Some days later, coach Jorge Luis Pinto (a Colombian) was dismissed from the national team on the players' accounts of him being one of the most overbearing and accosting people they've ever had to work with; the accusations included the coach showing up at the players' homes when they called in sick to verify that they were actually sick, endless hounding of the players and the support staff, and being a remarkably rude person as a whole]]. Though Costa Rica was thoroughly grateful for his work in the team, they soundly asked him to never, ever come back. If they had bothered to ask why Pinto was ousted from the Colombia National Team, they would have found that a coach like him demands too much patience and that Pinto left few friends at the Colombian Federation, leaving with a reputation of being a remarkably caustic man; granted, he is an incredibly talented coach if you don't mind being stripped of your privacy and dignity. In hindsight, and after reviewing the video evidence, it was noted by the media that none of the players or the support staff in Costa Rica ever celebrated scoring with their coach. When Pinto sought support in the eve of his ousting, he found no friends in his staff.
1st Jun '16 9:11:07 AM Wereling
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31st May '16 12:50:19 PM Willbyr
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* Whenever your favorite series has announced a new installment to their franchise but you cannot afford it for several reasons (region-locking/NoExportForYou/false-equivalence currency exchange rates of all things) you tend to avoid anything related to the series due to not wanting to be spoiled. [[ColdTurkeysAreEverywhere Unfortunately the more you try to avoid it the more people spoil them, since everybody and their mother have access to them, except you]]. This got worse if said franchise is well-known and fast-paced like ''{{Pokemon}}''. By the time you hear too much of the spoilers, their twists and how said new installment is far superior in comparison to the rest of the franchise and yet you ''still could not afford it'' no matter what [[HypeAversion the bitterness that you had bottled up this time might cause you to unleash a destructive hatred for a series that you followed for years.]]

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* Whenever your favorite series has announced a new installment to their franchise but you cannot afford it for several reasons (region-locking/NoExportForYou/false-equivalence currency exchange rates of all things) you tend to avoid anything related to the series due to not wanting to be spoiled. [[ColdTurkeysAreEverywhere Unfortunately the more you try to avoid it the more people spoil them, since everybody and their mother have access to them, except you]]. This got worse if said franchise is well-known and fast-paced like ''{{Pokemon}}''.''Franchise/{{Pokemon}}''. By the time you hear too much of the spoilers, their twists and how said new installment is far superior in comparison to the rest of the franchise and yet you ''still could not afford it'' no matter what [[HypeAversion the bitterness that you had bottled up this time might cause you to unleash a destructive hatred for a series that you followed for years.]]


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11th May '16 5:06:46 PM N8han11
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* ''WebAnimation/{{RWBY}}'':It's hard to describe anything about Weiss and Blake's S1 character arcs without revealing that Blake is a [[FantasticRacism Faunus.

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* ''WebAnimation/{{RWBY}}'':It's hard to describe anything about Weiss and Blake's S1 character arcs without revealing that Blake is a [[FantasticRacism Faunus.]]
6th Mar '16 1:27:54 PM Vir
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... wait a minute. Isn't that a commercial for the latest season? Why is the first season's ruthless and merciless {{big bad}} being all chummy-chummy with the main protagonists? You mean [[HeelFaceTurn he's going to turn good?!]]

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... wait a minute. Isn't that a commercial for the latest season? Why is the first season's ruthless and merciless {{big bad}} BigBad being all chummy-chummy with the main protagonists? You mean [[HeelFaceTurn he's going to turn good?!]]
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