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19th Aug '16 12:07:32 PM cdrood
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** From "Silence in the Library/Forest of the Dead". The microscopic Vasta Nerada stop their assault on The Doctor and his companions and allow him to free all the people saved in the computer and leave with one sentence.

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** From "Silence in the Library/Forest of the Dead". The microscopic Vasta Nerada stop their assault on The Doctor and his companions and allow him to free all the people saved in the computer and leave with one sentence.two sentences.
19th Aug '16 12:06:52 PM cdrood
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** From "Silence in the Library/Forest of the Dead". The microscopic Vasta Nerada stop their assault on The Doctor and his companions and allow him to free all the people saved in the computer and leave with one sentence.
--> '''The Tenth Doctor:''' I'm The Doctor and we're in the biggest library in the Universe. Look me up.
18th Aug '16 7:34:20 AM DaibhidC
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** Haley names this trope when she is asked by Roy whether or not he should [[spoiler: destroy the second to last Gate]], with not one, but ''two'' stronger enemy groups closing in on their position.

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** Haley names this trope again when she is asked by Roy whether or not he should [[spoiler: destroy the second to last Gate]], with not one, but ''two'' stronger enemy groups closing in on their position.
16th Aug '16 11:49:52 AM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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** Also The Raider knows when it's a good time to retreat. Basically it's a world of GenreSavvy characters.

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** Also The Raider knows when it's a good time to retreat. Basically it's a world of GenreSavvy characters.



* Master Vile in ''Series/MightyMorphinPowerRangers''. He actually realized fairly quickly that he wasn't going to beat the Power Rangers, and he'd be better off cutting his losses and going home to his galaxy, where [[GenreSavvy evil always wins]].

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* Master Vile in ''Series/MightyMorphinPowerRangers''. He actually realized fairly quickly that he wasn't going to beat the Power Rangers, and he'd be better off cutting his losses and going home to his galaxy, where [[GenreSavvy evil always wins]].wins.



* This is what makes the Dynamic Duo suspicious in the ''Series/{{Batman}}'' episode "The Greatest Mother of Them All." Not only are all the members of the Parker crime family [[YourPrincessIsInAnotherCastle captured before the end]] [[GenreSavvy of the first installment of the usual two-parter]], but they are all nabbed with ridiculous ease (especially the daughter, who throws her hands up as soon as Batman and Robin ''see'' her). Turns out it was too good to be true: the Parkers were not afraid of going to jail because Ma Parker had been slowly infiltrating the penitentiary with criminals disguised as guards until Warden Crichton had been the only non-corrupt person left - and Ma then had the "guards" turn on Crichton and bully him into making ''her'' the new warden. [[PoisonousCaptive The Parkers gain total control of the prison]], "breaking out" as often as they wish to commit robberies.

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* This is what makes the Dynamic Duo suspicious in the ''Series/{{Batman}}'' episode "The Greatest Mother of Them All." Not only are all the members of the Parker crime family [[YourPrincessIsInAnotherCastle captured before the end]] [[GenreSavvy of the first installment of the usual two-parter]], two-parter, but they are all nabbed with ridiculous ease (especially the daughter, who throws her hands up as soon as Batman and Robin ''see'' her). Turns out it was too good to be true: the Parkers were not afraid of going to jail because Ma Parker had been slowly infiltrating the penitentiary with criminals disguised as guards until Warden Crichton had been the only non-corrupt person left - and Ma then had the "guards" turn on Crichton and bully him into making ''her'' the new warden. [[PoisonousCaptive The Parkers gain total control of the prison]], "breaking out" as often as they wish to commit robberies.



* Showing that he is the kind of villain who actually ''[[GenreSavvy learns]]'' from his mistakes, Archibald Ironfist of ''VideoGame/HeroesOfMightAndMagic'' and ''VideoGame/MightAndMagic'' does not wait to be deposed a second time (he managed to rise to the throne of Deyja in the aftermath of the Restoration War) in ''Might & Magic VII'': realizing that his DragonWithAnAgenda (Kastore) seems liable to usurp power, Archibald uses the time of power he still has left to set up a place to evacuate to with his most loyal followers (under the guise of acquiring valuable resources, and with defences that would keep him safe ready to be re-activated). When Kastore makes his move, Archibald gets out and so can continue to scheme in safety, unlike the last time.

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* Showing that he is the kind of villain who actually ''[[GenreSavvy learns]]'' ''learns'' from his mistakes, Archibald Ironfist of ''VideoGame/HeroesOfMightAndMagic'' and ''VideoGame/MightAndMagic'' does not wait to be deposed a second time (he managed to rise to the throne of Deyja in the aftermath of the Restoration War) in ''Might & Magic VII'': realizing that his DragonWithAnAgenda (Kastore) seems liable to usurp power, Archibald uses the time of power he still has left to set up a place to evacuate to with his most loyal followers (under the guise of acquiring valuable resources, and with defences that would keep him safe ready to be re-activated). When Kastore makes his move, Archibald gets out and so can continue to scheme in safety, unlike the last time.



** In the episode "The Princess and the Bounty Hunters", Princess Mira is clearly the most GenreSavvy of the group who gathers to ambush Jack, and possibly more so than most villains of the ''entire series''. When the trap she designs fails, she's the last survivor among the villains, she's hurt, and Jack is unharmed. She considers continuing the battle... But then decides against it and drops her weapon, realizing she can't win. Unlike the others, she lives.

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** In the episode "The Princess and the Bounty Hunters", when the trap Princess Mira is clearly the most GenreSavvy of the group who gathers to ambush Jack, and possibly more so than most villains of the ''entire series''. When the trap she designs fails, she's the last survivor among the villains, she's hurt, and Jack is unharmed. She considers continuing the battle... But then decides against it and drops her weapon, realizing she can't win. Unlike the others, she lives.
15th Aug '16 12:18:23 PM BlackRoo1967
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* In ''WebComic/GirlGenius'' several people suggest doing this during the Mechanicsburg battle (one of which provides the page image). Agatha gives a pretty good breakdown for why she can't afford to fold [[http://www.girlgeniusonline.com/comic.php?date=20121207 here]].

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* In ''WebComic/GirlGenius'' several people suggest doing this during the Mechanicsburg battle (one of which provides the page image).image [[http://www.girlgeniusonline.com/comic.php?date=20121114 here]]). Agatha gives a pretty good breakdown for why she can't afford to fold [[http://www.girlgeniusonline.com/comic.php?date=20121207 here]].
3rd Aug '16 4:19:34 PM sgamer82
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** A specific instance occurs in ''Echoes of Honor.'' A surprise Havenite attack catches the less than competent Rear Admiral Elvis Santino completely flat-footed. His operations officer, Andrea Jaruwalski, tries to get him to fold, surrendering the system they don't need in the face of a vastly superior force. Santino responded by relieving Jaruwalski of her position and sending her away with enough of a black spot on her record to sabotage her career, then called up his command to meet the Havenite attack. Santino's command was mostly destroyed. Jaruwalski eventually had her career salvaged with the help of Honor Harrington herself.

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** A specific instance occurs in ''Echoes of Honor.'' A surprise Havenite attack catches the less than competent Rear Admiral Elvis Santino completely flat-footed. His operations officer, Andrea Jaruwalski, tries to get him to fold, surrendering the system they don't need in the face of a vastly superior force. Santino responded responds by relieving Jaruwalski of her position and sending her away with enough of a black spot on her record to sabotage her career, then called calling up his command to meet the Havenite attack. Santino's command was is mostly destroyed. destroyed while Jaruwalski eventually had has her career salvaged with the help of Honor Harrington herself.
28th Jul '16 1:40:39 PM superkeijikun
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* Invoked in ''VideoGame/GuiltyGear Xrd -REVELATOR-'' for Dizzy's [[OneHitKill Instant-Kill Attack]]: one of Dizzy's sentient wings, Necro, attempts to kill the opponent with a powerful blast. Dizzy manages to push Necro enough so the attack barely misses, but the resulting explosion and mushroom cloud behind the opponent causes them to give up. Instead of the the screen reading "DESTROYED" like with other Instant-Kill Attacks, the screen reads "SURRENDERED".
27th Jul '16 7:01:16 AM Kakai
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* ''ComicBook/WhiteSand'': Aggressively defied by Kenton, who's told multiple times that it's high time he gave up, but continues to stride forward to the point of bull-headed stubborness.
24th Jul '16 6:09:34 PM LucaEarlgrey
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* In TabletopGame/{{chess}}, there is resignation, or "I realize I'm going to lose no matter what I do at this point, so let's just end this now." This isn't ''mandatory'', but it's considered good etiquette over dragging out an impending defeat.

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* In TabletopGame/{{chess}}, there is resignation, or "I realize I'm going to lose no matter what I do at this point, so let's just end this now." This isn't ''mandatory'', but it's considered good etiquette over dragging out an impending defeat.defeat; at professional levels, resignations are far more common than playing all the way to checkmate.
24th Jul '16 6:06:58 PM LucaEarlgrey
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* In TabletopGame/{{chess}}, there is resignation, or "I realize I'm going to lose no matter what I do at this point, so let's just end this now." This isn't ''mandatory'', but it's considered good etiquette over dragging out an impending defeat.
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