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3rd May '16 5:34:05 AM Arivne
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* ''Wiki/SCPFoundation'', [[Characters/SCPFoundation [=Characters/SCPFoundation=]]], [[http://www.scp-wiki.net/scp-507 SCP-507 ("The Reluctant Dimension Hopper")]]. [[http://www.scp-wiki.net/document-507-3b Document 507-3B]] is a list of the {{Alternate Universe}}s SCP-507 has been to while in Foundation custody. In universe 7F2-WA3-193, U.S. President Abraham Lincoln was assassinated by his Vice President in order to assume the Presidency. Over time this became a standard procedure in which any qualified candidate could become President by assassinating the current President.

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* ''Wiki/SCPFoundation'', [[Characters/SCPFoundation [=Characters/SCPFoundation=]]], [[http://www.scp-wiki.net/scp-507 SCP-507 ("The Reluctant Dimension Hopper")]]. [[http://www.scp-wiki.net/document-507-3b Document 507-3B]] is a list of the {{Alternate Universe}}s SCP-507 has been to while in Foundation custody. In universe 7F2-WA3-193, [=7F2-WA3-193=], U.S. President Abraham Lincoln was assassinated by his Vice President in order to assume the Presidency. Over time this became a standard procedure in which any qualified candidate could become President by assassinating the current President.
3rd May '16 4:17:53 AM Arivne
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* ''Wiki/SCPFoundation'', [[Characters/SCPFoundation [=Characters/SCPFoundation=]]], [[http://www.scp-wiki.net/scp-507 SCP-507 ("The Reluctant Dimension Hopper")]]. [[http://www.scp-wiki.net/document-507-3b Document 507-3B]] is a list of the {{Alternate Universe}}s SCP-507 has been to while in Foundation custody. In universe 7F2-WA3-193, U.S. President Abraham Lincoln was assassinated by his Vice President in order to assume the Presidency. Over time this became a standard procedure in which any qualified candidate could become President by assassinating the current President.
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18th Apr '16 6:49:43 PM Orbiting
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18th Apr '16 6:48:07 PM Orbiting
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* ''Webcomic/{{Nebula}}'': Jupiter is trying to invoke it; he wants to kill Sun so that he'll get his job as leader of the solar system. Whether or not it'd actually work out that way is irrelevant, since it's pretty clear that the chances of him managing to ''wound'' [[AssKickingEqualsAuthority Sun]], much less kill him, aren't exactly high.
17th Apr '16 10:06:41 PM SSJMagus
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** Interestingly, it appears from the Legends that numerous Sith cults remain isolated and secret, never challenging or revealing themselves to the active ''Two'' at any given time, in case the line ever fails. For example, while it never actually played out during the thousand years of the Rule of Two, there was always the risk that [[MutualKill the master and apprentice would kill each other]].

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** Interestingly, it appears from the Legends that numerous Sith cults remain isolated and secret, never challenging or revealing themselves to the active ''Two'' at any given time, in case the line ever fails. For example, while it never actually played out during until the very end of the thousand years of the Rule of Two, there was always the risk that [[MutualKill the master and apprentice would kill each other]].
17th Apr '16 10:06:14 PM SSJMagus
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** Ironically, again according to the Legends, both Sidious and Vader would try to violate the rule themselves--Vader by explicitly taking a secret apprentice in ''VideoGame/TheForceUnleashed'',, then Sidious by [[spoiler:intending to cast even Luke aside and rule alone, immortal and eternally]]. (The other Force-sensitive agents they use don't count, as they aren't trained in Sith tradition, and some may not even have been aware of it.)
** Interestingly, it appears from the Legends that numerous Sith cults remain isolated and secret, never challenging or revealing themselves to the active ''Two'' at any given time, in case the line ever fails.

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** Ironically, again according to the Legends, both Sidious and Vader would try to violate the rule themselves--Vader by explicitly taking a secret apprentice in ''VideoGame/TheForceUnleashed'',, then Sidious by [[spoiler:intending to cast even Luke aside and rule alone, immortal and eternally]]. And ''Literature/DarthPlagueis'' reveals that [[spoiler:Sidious had taken Darth Maul as his apprentice and trained him for years ''before'' actually ascending to the rank of master himself. He then corrected the violation of the Rule of Two by murdering Palgueis.]] (The other Force-sensitive agents they use don't count, as they aren't trained in Sith tradition, and some may not even have been aware of it.)
*** The Sith who formalized the Rule of Two also anticipated ''this'', and fully expected it to be self-correcting. When a second apprentice gets brought into the mix, normally either the current apprentice is about to kill his master, or the current master is about to [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness dispose of the current apprentice in favor of a more useful one]]. Or, if the second apprentice is unworthy, ''he'' gets to be the one discarded. In all those scenarios, the Rule of Two is restored. [[spoiler:Indeed, at the end of his reign as Sith Lord, Darth Bane and his apprentice Darth Zannah ''each'' had picked a new apprentice of their own. [[{{Irony}} Bane was worried that Zannah was going soft because she hadn't tried to kill him and thus decided to replace her, while Zannah had chosen that exact moment to overthrow Bane.]] Ultimately, Zannah killed Bane and took Bane's would-be second apprentice as her own.]]
** Interestingly, it appears from the Legends that numerous Sith cults remain isolated and secret, never challenging or revealing themselves to the active ''Two'' at any given time, in case the line ever fails. For example, while it never actually played out during the thousand years of the Rule of Two, there was always the risk that [[MutualKill the master and apprentice would kill each other]].
17th Apr '16 9:42:16 PM SSJMagus
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* In ''Anime/CodeGeass'', [[spoiler: Lelouch]] [[InvokedTrope invokes]] this trope after killing [[spoiler: his father, [[TheEmperor Emperor Charles zi Britannia]], ascending to the throne himself as 99th Holy Britannian Emperor, Lelouch vi Britannia. Played with in that he didn't kill his father for that purpose, but was quite happy to take advantage of this trope afterwards. Further played with in that none of the nobility and fellow royal family members recognized his authority until he used his Geass powers to force them to accept his rule.]]

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* In ''Anime/CodeGeass'', [[spoiler: Lelouch]] [[InvokedTrope invokes]] this trope after killing [[spoiler: his father, [[TheEmperor Emperor Charles zi Britannia]], ascending to the throne himself as 99th Holy Britannian Emperor, Lelouch vi Britannia. Played with in that he didn't kill his father for that purpose, but was quite happy to take advantage of this trope afterwards. Further played with in that none of the nobility and fellow royal family members recognized his authority until he used his Geass powers to force them to accept his rule. This is despite the fact that Charles himself became the 98th Holy Britannian Emperor in the exact same manner.]]
15th Apr '16 12:33:12 AM Sagetsu
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* Depending on the historical account you are reading, this was one of the alleged motives of AkechiMitsuhide in assassinating OdaNobunaga in the Honnō-ji Incident in June 21, 1582. Even if he didn't intend to[[note]]one claim was that Mitsuhide was acting out of loyalty to the Imperial Court, and Nobunaga has been flouting Court authority in his final years[[/note]], he nevertheless spent the aftermath of the assassination trying to amass authority as Shogun, only to be deposed and killed after losing to ToyotomiHideyoshi's forces.
13th Apr '16 1:56:20 PM CountDorku
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** Parodied in one episode. Quark is made leader of the Ferengi, and the last leader's son tries to take power this way. The capitalistic Ferengi, who would have respected him if he undermined Quark's power-base and accumulated all the real power behind the scenes, just call him an idiot for thinking it would work. [[spoiler:The whole thing is a setup, as the previous leader is still alive, having faked his death to test his son's worthiness to be his real successor. Needless to say, his son fails.]] Interestingly, Quark is impressed by Rom's ruthlessness (he helps Zek's son), even commenting that their father would have approved. [[spoiler:Zek seems to be impressed as well... which is why he names Rom the new leader when he retires.]]

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** *** Parodied in one episode. Quark is made leader of the Ferengi, and the last leader's son tries to take power this way. The capitalistic Ferengi, who would have respected him if he undermined Quark's power-base and accumulated all the real power behind the scenes, just call him an idiot for thinking it would work. [[spoiler:The whole thing is a setup, as the previous leader is still alive, having faked his death to test his son's worthiness to be his real successor. Needless to say, his son fails.]] Interestingly, Quark is impressed by Rom's ruthlessness (he helps Zek's son), even commenting that their father would have approved. [[spoiler:Zek seems to be impressed as well... which is why he names Rom the new leader when he retires.]]]]
*** Quark managed to end up the head of a Klingon House when the former leader accidentally died while drinking in Quark's bar, and in his attempts to not get knifed, he had to play up the idea that he accomplished this.
2nd Apr '16 1:27:22 PM Stealth
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** The [[ProudWarriorRaceGuy Clans]] practice a weirdly sanctioned form of this trope. If a Clan warrior believes their superior is incompetent, as a warrior they have a right to challenge the suitability of their commanding officer's qualifications to command. This usually comes in the form of TrialByCombat, and while death in trial is not the goal, it's also not uncommon, either. The catch is, though, that merely defeating or killing a superior officer is not enough; the officer above them must approve of the subsequent promotion, though seeing as how AsskingEqualsAuthority among the Clans, an officer losing to their subordinate is usually evidence enough that they were not worthy of commanding that subordinate. Also, as they detest subterfuge due to HonorBeforeReason, Clan warriors will ''not'' simply backstab or assassinate a superior officer in a clandestine manner to advance themselves as a general rule, and those who do are considered dangerous aberrations by the rest of Clan society, often hunted down as no better than bandits and pirates. Klingon Promotions in Clan society are done ''above'' board, thank you very much.

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** The [[ProudWarriorRaceGuy Clans]] practice a weirdly sanctioned form of this trope. If a Clan warrior believes their superior is incompetent, as a warrior they have a right to challenge the suitability of their commanding officer's qualifications to command. This usually comes in the form of TrialByCombat, and while death in trial is not the goal, it's also not uncommon, either. The catch is, though, that merely defeating or killing a superior officer is not enough; the officer above them must approve of the subsequent promotion, though seeing as how AsskingEqualsAuthority AsskickingEqualsAuthority among the Clans, an officer losing to their subordinate is usually evidence enough that they were not worthy of commanding that subordinate. Also, as they detest subterfuge due to HonorBeforeReason, Clan warriors will ''not'' simply backstab or assassinate a superior officer in a clandestine manner to advance themselves as a general rule, and those who do are considered dangerous aberrations by the rest of Clan society, often hunted down as no better than bandits and pirates. Klingon Promotions in Clan society are done ''above'' board, thank you very much.
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