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16th Jul '16 8:34:36 PM Mhazard
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When this trope is played straight, Bob's gambit works and both of them leave the room alive. Though the exact degree of loyalty this inspires in Alice can vary widely, the result is generally a moral improvement all the way up to a full HeelFaceTurn. Other times, Bob is wrong, wrong, wrong, and the best we can hope for Alice is that she will eventually regret killing the man who believed in her. Still other times Bob's gambit works, but ''only'' because [[CantKillYouStillNeedYou Alice has a reason to keep him alive]].

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When this trope is played straight, Bob's gambit works and both of them leave the room alive. Though the exact degree of loyalty this inspires in Alice can vary widely, the result is generally a moral improvement all the way up to a full HeelFaceTurn. Other times, Bob is wrong, wrong, wrong, and the best we can hope for Alice is that she will eventually regret killing the man who believed in her. Still other times Bob's gambit works, but ''only'' because [[CantKillYouStillNeedYou Alice has a reason to keep him alive]].
alive]]. In a rare occasion, Bob gets OutGambitted and is [[BeCarefulWhatYouWishFor shot by Alice in cold blood]].
11th Jul '16 7:54:48 AM Blazer
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* In ComicBook/{{Aquaman}}'s first ''ComicBook/DCRebirth'' storyline, Black Manta sets off a terrorist attack on an Atlantis embassy in the US to get at Aquaman and the two start fighting. Aquaman defeats him, then offers him the chance to kill him to get back at him killing his father. However, he warns him that if he does so, he'll have nothing else left to live for. [[spoiler:Black Manta concedes and surrenders.]]
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31st May '16 4:03:34 AM Doug86
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* In AndreNorton's ''The Beast Master'', Hosteen has to persuade an alien that a spaceship, landing in a forbidden area, is not a human ship but that of their enemies. He concludes by giving him a knife and telling it to drive it home if he doesn't believe him.

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* In AndreNorton's Creator/AndreNorton's ''The Beast Master'', Hosteen has to persuade an alien that a spaceship, landing in a forbidden area, is not a human ship but that of their enemies. He concludes by giving him a knife and telling it to drive it home if he doesn't believe him.
14th Apr '16 8:03:44 PM darksoul4242
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* In ''Anime/CodeGeass'', Lelouch dared his fellow rebels, the Black Knights, to kill him when they questioned his leadership. They step back, in part because he also points out that they're completely screwed with out him acting as their [[TheStrategist strategist]]. One of them even [[LampshadeHanging comments]] that that must have taken an incredible amount of guts.
* In {{Utawarerumono}}, After Hakouro completely defeats fellow Emperor and friend Kuya, he stands in front of her barely functional HumongousMecha... and surrenders. If she kills him, she will have won the war she's practically lost, her country will flourish, and her people will no longer be [[FantasticRacism persecuted]]. Kuya realizes she can't kill a friend in cold blood, and moreover, that cooperation is what she should have tried, rather than forced unification. Unfortunately, things [[MindScrew go downhill]] [[BigNo from there]] [[BreakTheCutie rather quickly]].

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* In ''Anime/CodeGeass'', Lelouch dared his fellow rebels, the Black Knights, to kill him when they questioned his leadership. They step back, in part because he also points out that they're completely screwed with out without him acting as their [[TheStrategist strategist]]. One of them even [[LampshadeHanging comments]] that that must have taken an incredible amount of guts.
* In {{Utawarerumono}}, After Hakouro Hakuouro completely defeats fellow Emperor and friend Kuya, he stands in front of her barely functional HumongousMecha... and surrenders. If she kills him, she will have won the war she's practically lost, her country will flourish, and her people will no longer be [[FantasticRacism persecuted]]. Kuya realizes she can't kill a friend in cold blood, and moreover, that cooperation is what she should have tried, rather than forced unification. Unfortunately, things [[MindScrew go downhill]] [[BigNo from there]] [[BreakTheCutie rather quickly]].
23rd Mar '16 1:36:36 PM Morgenthaler
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* In ''TouchingEvil'', Kreegan tries this with Keller, after allowing him to beat him up. It [[spoiler: doesn't work. It possibly backfires,]] depending on how much import you attribute to Keller's repeated [[spoiler: "remember what you said."]]

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* In ''TouchingEvil'', ''Series/TouchingEvil'', Kreegan tries this with Keller, after allowing him to beat him up. It [[spoiler: doesn't work. It possibly backfires,]] depending on how much import you attribute to Keller's repeated [[spoiler: "remember what you said."]]



* In the "Kill Straker!" episode of ''{{UFO}}'', Colonel Foster has been [[ManchurianAgent given a subliminal command]] to kill his superior Commander Straker. Straker needs to be absolutely sure the command has been erased, so he orders the guards to lock them in the ShootingGallery, then proceeds to take pot shots at Foster in order to provoke him, screaming "Kill! Kill!" when Foster finally picks up a gun to defend himself. Needless to say he doesn't. Afterwards when Foster protests that Straker was trying to kill him, Straker [[ImprobableAimingSkills shoots out a row of tiny targets from the hip]] and says "I could have killed you at any time."

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* In the "Kill Straker!" episode of ''{{UFO}}'', ''Series/{{UFO}}'', Colonel Foster has been [[ManchurianAgent given a subliminal command]] to kill his superior Commander Straker. Straker needs to be absolutely sure the command has been erased, so he orders the guards to lock them in the ShootingGallery, then proceeds to take pot shots at Foster in order to provoke him, screaming "Kill! Kill!" when Foster finally picks up a gun to defend himself. Needless to say he doesn't. Afterwards when Foster protests that Straker was trying to kill him, Straker [[ImprobableAimingSkills shoots out a row of tiny targets from the hip]] and says "I could have killed you at any time."



* In the season 2 finale of ''{{Warehouse 13}}'', Myka uses this tactic to talk [[spoiler:H. G. Wells]] down from her world-destroying plan.

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* In the season 2 finale of ''{{Warehouse ''Series/{{Warehouse 13}}'', Myka uses this tactic to talk [[spoiler:H. G. Wells]] down from her world-destroying plan.
18th Mar '16 7:37:30 PM intastiel
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* In ''Film/TheForceAwakens'', [[spoiler:Han Solo]] confronts [[spoiler:his son Kylo Ren]] in a drastically unfavourable location, offering to forgive them for joining the First Order and take them back to safety. [[spoiler:Han gets impaled for his trouble: what he thought was a plea for help was a prayer to ''Darth Vader''.]]
13th Feb '16 2:17:15 AM Morgenthaler
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* A nearly perfect example happens in the movie ''InBruges'' when Harry Walters confronts his hitman Ken for not killing Ray. It's partially subverted in that Harry still shoots Ken in the leg. [[spoiler:It's fully subverted later when Harry finds out Ray is still in Bruges; Harry then shoots Ken in order to stop Ken from stopping him so he can kill Ray.]]

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* A nearly perfect example happens in the movie ''InBruges'' ''Film/InBruges'' when Harry Walters confronts his hitman Ken for not killing Ray. It's partially subverted in that Harry still shoots Ken in the leg. [[spoiler:It's fully subverted later when Harry finds out Ray is still in Bruges; Harry then shoots Ken in order to stop Ken from stopping him so he can kill Ray.]]
19th Jan '16 9:44:16 AM Willbyr
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* Toward the end of ''WitchHunterRobin'', the eponymous pyrokinetic (now on the run) pulls this on her former partner Amon after learning he was assigned to take her down.
* Filia from ''{{LightNovel/Slayers}}'' Try does this with Jillas. When Jillas points a gun at her, she holds his hand with the gun and tells him to shoot. He's shocked and unable to do it, and eventually does a HeelFaceTurn when she saves his life.

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* Toward the end of ''WitchHunterRobin'', ''Anime/WitchHunterRobin'', the eponymous pyrokinetic (now on the run) pulls this on her former partner Amon after learning he was assigned to take her down.
* Filia from ''{{LightNovel/Slayers}}'' ''LightNovel/{{Slayers}}'' Try does this with Jillas. When Jillas points a gun at her, she holds his hand with the gun and tells him to shoot. He's shocked and unable to do it, and eventually does a HeelFaceTurn when she saves his life.



* Thorfinn from ''VinlandSaga'' joins a group of vikings for the sole purpose of killing their leader, Askeladd. However, he refuses to kill Askeladd in anything besides an honorable duel.

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* Thorfinn from ''VinlandSaga'' ''Manga/VinlandSaga'' joins a group of vikings for the sole purpose of killing their leader, Askeladd. However, he refuses to kill Askeladd in anything besides an honorable duel.



* In ''CodeGeass'', Lelouch dared his fellow rebels, the Black Knights, to kill him when they questioned his leadership. They step back, in part because he also points out that they're completely screwed with out him acting as their [[TheStrategist strategist]]. One of them even [[LampshadeHanging comments]] that that must have taken an incredible amount of guts.

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* In ''CodeGeass'', ''Anime/CodeGeass'', Lelouch dared his fellow rebels, the Black Knights, to kill him when they questioned his leadership. They step back, in part because he also points out that they're completely screwed with out him acting as their [[TheStrategist strategist]]. One of them even [[LampshadeHanging comments]] that that must have taken an incredible amount of guts.



* The [[{{Trigun}} manga versions]] of Vash and Wolfwood have a moment like this, where they're having a fairly friendly moment, Wolfwood stares a Vash's back and thinks, ''he's open, I could kill him right now;'' the motivation being that Vash is Knives' twin brother and if Knives by ''himself'' is a threat, [[spoiler: and Knives' orders to him as Chapel were to protect Vash, and if the BigBad wants him protected,]] well... And he doesn't. And then Vash looks around at him, one of those really sad smiles he does, and Wolfwood sort of smiles and thinks Vash knew exactly what he was thinking. They're kind of messed-up for best friends.

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* The [[{{Trigun}} ''Manga/{{Trigun}}'''s manga versions]] versions of Vash and Wolfwood have a moment like this, where they're having a fairly friendly moment, Wolfwood stares a at Vash's back and thinks, ''he's open, I could kill him right now;'' the motivation being that Vash is Knives' twin brother and if Knives by ''himself'' is a threat, [[spoiler: and [[spoiler:and Knives' orders to him as Chapel were to protect Vash, and if the BigBad wants him protected,]] well... And he doesn't. And then Vash looks around at him, one of those really sad smiles he does, and Wolfwood sort of smiles and thinks Vash knew exactly what he was thinking. They're kind of messed-up for best friends.
8th Jan '16 5:10:28 AM jormis29
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* Achilles to Briseis in the movie ''{{Troy}}'' with a knife to his neck. More like "kill me or [[CoitusEnsues have sex with me]], [[MrFanservice your choice]]."

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* Achilles to Briseis in the movie ''{{Troy}}'' ''Film/{{Troy}}'' with a knife to his neck. More like "kill me or [[CoitusEnsues have sex with me]], [[MrFanservice your choice]]."
29th Dec '15 8:52:11 PM nombretomado
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* Filia from ''{{Slayers}}'' Try does this with Jillas. When Jillas points a gun at her, she holds his hand with the gun and tells him to shoot. He's shocked and unable to do it, and eventually does a HeelFaceTurn when she saves his life.

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* Filia from ''{{Slayers}}'' ''{{LightNovel/Slayers}}'' Try does this with Jillas. When Jillas points a gun at her, she holds his hand with the gun and tells him to shoot. He's shocked and unable to do it, and eventually does a HeelFaceTurn when she saves his life.
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