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9th Aug '16 9:25:33 AM ImpudentInfidel
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** Moist does this later on in the Clacks vs. Post race against the Grand Trunk. He knows that the Trunk's chairman, Reacher Gilt, is just as much a conman as he, so he provides him with a fake con to foil. First he turns up to the race with a broomstick that has silver stars painted on it, making it seem like it is a magic broomstick and he intends to win the race by flying. When Gilt points out that this is against the rules, Lipwig points out that each Clacks tower has a horse available to deliver messages when the towers break, and that using them would be cheating as well. Thus both methods are disqualified. Gilt naturally assumes that this was Moist's plan all along, but in actuality he doesn't intend to "win" at all. He intends to change the message along the way and reveal the Trunk's treachery in front of everyone, disguised as a message from beyond the grave.

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** Moist does this later on in the Clacks vs. Post race against the Grand Trunk. He knows that the Trunk's chairman, Reacher Gilt, is just as much a conman as he, so he provides him with a fake con to foil. First he turns up to the race with a broomstick that has silver stars painted on it, making it seem like it is a magic broomstick and he intends to win the race by flying. When Gilt points out that this is against the rules, Lipwig points out that each Clacks tower has a horse available to deliver messages when the towers break, and that using them would be cheating as well. Thus both methods are disqualified. Gilt naturally assumes that this was Moist's plan all along, but in actuality he doesn't intend to "win" at all. At the time his plan was to alter the message to one that deigned to damage the mechanisms in the tower, and it could be countered if they sent horses to warn later towers. He intends to change ends up changing the message along the way and to reveal the Trunk's treachery in front of everyone, disguised as a message from beyond the grave.grave, instead.
7th Aug '16 3:12:24 PM Dragon573
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* In ''Film/ScottPilgrimVsTheWorld'', Scott tries to defeat Todd Ingram's vegan-based psychic powers by offering him a cup of coffee, putting soy milk in one cup of coffee and half-n-half in the other. Todd correctly assumes Scott is trying to trick him, and reads Scott's mind, "discovering" that he put half-n-half in the cup he's offering. However, Scott in fact put half-n-half in the cup he's ''not'' offering to Todd, and "thought real hard" about putting half-n-half in the cup he originally offered.

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* In ''Film/ScottPilgrimVsTheWorld'', Scott tries to defeat Todd Ingram's vegan-based psychic powers by offering him a cup of coffee, putting soy milk in one cup of coffee and half-n-half in the other. Todd correctly assumes Scott is trying to trick him, him and reads Scott's mind, "discovering" that he put half-n-half in the cup he's offering. However, Scott in fact put half-n-half in the cup he's ''not'' offering to Todd, and "thought real hard" about putting half-n-half in the cup he originally offered.
7th Aug '16 3:10:57 PM Dragon573
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* In ''Film/ScottPilgrimVsTheWorld'', Scott tries to defeat Todd Ingram's vegan-based psychic powers by putting soy milk in one cup of coffee and half-n-half in the other. Offering one cup, Scott "thinks really hard" that the soy coffee is the one he's NOT offering to Todd. Todd, assuming the forced thought is a lie (and a double bluff), takes the coffee he's being offered. It turns out Scott's "forced" thought was ''true'', meaning Todd drank non-vegan coffee.

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* In ''Film/ScottPilgrimVsTheWorld'', Scott tries to defeat Todd Ingram's vegan-based psychic powers by offering him a cup of coffee, putting soy milk in one cup of coffee and half-n-half in the other. Offering one cup, Todd correctly assumes Scott "thinks really hard" that the soy coffee is the one he's NOT offering trying to Todd. Todd, assuming the forced thought is a lie (and a double bluff), takes the coffee he's being offered. It turns out trick him, and reads Scott's "forced" thought was ''true'', meaning Todd drank non-vegan coffee. mind, "discovering" that he put half-n-half in the cup he's offering. However, Scott in fact put half-n-half in the cup he's ''not'' offering to Todd, and "thought real hard" about putting half-n-half in the cup he originally offered.
3rd Aug '16 10:51:24 PM Mike
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-->-- '''Haley''', ''WebComics/TheOrderOfTheStick'' [[http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0428.html #428]]

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-->-- '''Haley''', ''WebComics/TheOrderOfTheStick'' ''WebComic/TheOrderOfTheStick'' [[http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0428.html #428]]
1st Aug '16 9:33:48 PM Freetime5689
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* In ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolidVThePhantomPain'' prologue "Ground Zeroes", Snake rescues Paz only to find she has a huge abdominal scar, as XOF tricked him into saving her while she had a bomb inside of her. Extracting the bomb without killing her, she awakens a scene later to explain she has a ''second'' bomb inside of her, as XOF knew Snake wouldn't expect it.

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* In ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolidVThePhantomPain'' prologue "Ground Zeroes", ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolidVGroundZeroes'', Snake [[spoiler: rescues Paz only to find she has a huge abdominal scar, as XOF tricked him into saving her while she had a bomb inside of her. Extracting the bomb without killing her, she awakens a scene later to explain she has a ''second'' bomb inside of her, as XOF knew Snake wouldn't expect it.it]].
22nd Jul '16 8:38:26 PM AaronOfMpls
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* In ''Series/MadMen'', Don Draper executes a magnificent one against his self-proclaimed rival Ted Chaough in "The Chrysanthemum and the Sword." During the competition over the Honda Motorcycles account, the Honda execs make certain rules to ensure a level playing field: each agency is given $3000 to make boards and copy--no finished work allowed. Don goes to great lengths to hint that SCDP is going to make a big, expensive spec commercial for Honda (which is finished work and therefore not allowed) convincing Ted Chaough that his firm should do the same. But SCDP isn't making a commercial at all (leading to a [[CrowningMomentOfFunny pretty hilarious scene with [[http://i34.tinypic.com/11w6ck2.jpg Peggy riding around an empty set on a Honda motorcycle]]) Draper's intention was to severely damage Chaough's firm's budget by fooling them into making the big, expensive commercial. Don resigns the Honda account, returning the $3000, on the grounds that Honda had broken its own rules and he could not honorably do business with them. Chaough's firm is now a mess, and while Honda doesn't end up giving ''anyone'' their main motorcycle account, SCDP gets a shot at the advertising for their new automotive division.

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* In ''Series/MadMen'', Don Draper executes a magnificent one against his self-proclaimed rival Ted Chaough in "The Chrysanthemum and the Sword." During the competition over the Honda Motorcycles account, the Honda execs make certain rules to ensure a level playing field: each agency is given $3000 to make boards and copy--no finished work allowed. Don goes to great lengths to hint that SCDP is going to make a big, expensive spec commercial for Honda (which is finished work and therefore not allowed) convincing Ted Chaough that his firm should do the same. But SCDP isn't making a commercial at all (leading to a [[CrowningMomentOfFunny pretty hilarious scene scene]] with [[http://i34.tinypic.com/11w6ck2.jpg Peggy riding around an empty set on a Honda motorcycle]]) Draper's intention was to severely damage Chaough's firm's budget by fooling them into making the big, expensive commercial. Don resigns the Honda account, returning the $3000, on the grounds that Honda had broken its own rules and he could not honorably do business with them. Chaough's firm is now a mess, and while Honda doesn't end up giving ''anyone'' their main motorcycle account, SCDP gets a shot at the advertising for their new automotive division.
21st Jul '16 6:33:32 AM Morgenthaler
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* In ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'' episode "The Book Job", Bart and Homer form a gang to make big bucks in the field of YA lit. They con the publisher, who one-ups them by recruiting Lisa. Who actually takes their side. But none of them should have trusted team ButtMonkey Creator/NeilGaiman. Bart and Homer even refer to a NoodleIncident known only as [[NameDrop Kansas City.]]

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* ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'':
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In ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'' the episode "The Book Job", Bart and Homer form a gang to make big bucks in the field of YA lit. They con the publisher, who one-ups them by recruiting Lisa. Who actually takes their side. But none of them should have trusted team ButtMonkey Creator/NeilGaiman. Bart and Homer even refer to a NoodleIncident known only as [[NameDrop Kansas City.]]



* In ''WesternAnimation/YoungJustice'', the BigBad group "The Light" regularly uses the superheroes' attempts to "stop the evil plan" to further their real machinations. In "Usual Suspects" for instance, The Light stages an attack on the heroes so the good guys will bring dangerous devices the Light's agents are carrying at the time to their secret base to stop the Light from getting to them. The Light promptly uses the devices to take the heroes' secret base over.

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* In ''WesternAnimation/YoungJustice'', the ''WesternAnimation/YoungJustice'':
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BigBad group "The Light" regularly uses the superheroes' attempts to "stop the evil plan" to further their real machinations. In "Usual Suspects" for instance, The Light stages an attack on the heroes so the good guys will bring dangerous devices the Light's agents are carrying at the time to their secret base to stop the Light from getting to them. The Light promptly uses the devices to take the heroes' secret base over.
21st Jul '16 6:32:38 AM Morgenthaler
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* In ''Discworld/CarpeJugulum'', the DangerouslyGenreSavvy vampyres are well-aware of Granny Weatherwax's skill at "Borrowing" (the ability to put a part of her mind into another creature). Even after they suck Granny's blood and try to turn her into a vampire, they suspect Granny's used Borrowing to put part of herself elsewhere, either in Magrat's newborn daughter or into wishy-washy priest Mightily Oats. It turns out, Granny put herself into ''her own blood'', meaning [[OutGambitted when the Magpyr clan members drank her blood, she was ready to tear down their mental defenses from the inside]] once she shrugged off the vampirism by HeroicWillpower.

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* In ''Discworld/CarpeJugulum'', the DangerouslyGenreSavvy vampyres are well-aware of Granny Weatherwax's skill at "Borrowing" (the ability to put a part of her mind into another creature). Even after they suck Granny's blood and try to turn her into a vampire, they suspect Granny's used Borrowing to put part of herself elsewhere, either in Magrat's newborn daughter or into wishy-washy priest Mightily Oats. It turns out, Granny put herself into ''her own blood'', meaning [[OutGambitted when the Magpyr clan members drank her blood, she was ready to tear down their mental defenses from the inside]] once she shrugged off the vampirism by HeroicWillpower.
10th Jul '16 12:27:50 PM DanaO
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*** There's a less visible example (because it doesn't involve the protagonists) going on at the same time. There's an ongoing power struggle which resumes any time most of the Order get together, and while this plot stands to benefit the entire Order at each stage Nicodemus is clearly either increasing his own influence or setting up potential future problems for rivals. This is obvious to the rest of the Order, as is that they're all being given rope to oppose or betray his "side" without really ruining the plot, implying he's in some way preparing a personal "traitor sweep". What's ''not'' obvious is that the situation's set up to look for a member of the Order sabotaging the ''entire plot'' to do irreparable damage to their mutual goals - he suspects Outsider infiltration, and the situation is designed to spur such an infiltrator to act; nobody will be willing to get together afterwards to honestly compare who did what when if the damage looks like the fallout of "normal" betrayals. While it's unclear how much good it does him, Nicodemus walks away from the affair with confirmation of this and the identity of their puppet.
4th Jul '16 3:51:17 AM eroock
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->The con isn't in getting you to pick the wrong shell. The con is in getting you to accept that the basic premise of the game is still being followed. The con is in getting you to pick a shell '''at all'''.
-->--'''Haley''', ''WebComics/TheOrderOfTheStick'' [[http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0428.html #428]]

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->The ->''"The con isn't in getting you to pick the wrong shell. The con is in getting you to accept that the basic premise of the game is still being followed. The con is in getting you to pick a shell '''at all'''.
-->--'''Haley''',
all'''."''
-->-- '''Haley''',
''WebComics/TheOrderOfTheStick'' [[http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0428.html #428]]
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