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* In ''Recap/TintinTintinInTheCongo'', Tintin comes across two men fighting over a straw boater. he settles the matter by cutting the hat apart, and giving one man the brim and the other the crown. They're actually happy with the result.
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* Memorably subverted in ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'' episode "[[Recap/TheSimpsonsS10E18SimpsonsBibleStories Simpsons Bible Stories]]":

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* Memorably subverted in ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'' episode "[[Recap/TheSimpsonsS10E18SimpsonsBibleStories Simpsons Bible Stories]]":Stories]]", in which two men (Lenny and Carl) claim ownership of... a pie.
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* In ''Israel's Golden Years'' (1986), an educational UsefulNotes/AppleII and UsefulNotes/Commodore64 game in ''The Baker Street Kids'' series based on Literature/TheBible, the titular kids [[https://cdn.mobygames.com/screenshots/10952579-israels-golden-years-apple-ii-solomons-wisdom.png enact the judgment of King Solomon]] in the "Solomon's Wisdom" segment, with some doll (as the baby) held up with a pretend knife to it for some reason.

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* In ''Israel's Golden Years'' (1986), an educational UsefulNotes/AppleII Platform/AppleII and UsefulNotes/Commodore64 Platform/Commodore64 game in ''The Baker Street Kids'' series based on Literature/TheBible, the titular kids [[https://cdn.mobygames.com/screenshots/10952579-israels-golden-years-apple-ii-solomons-wisdom.png enact the judgment of King Solomon]] in the "Solomon's Wisdom" segment, with some doll (as the baby) held up with a pretend knife to it for some reason.
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* In ''Literature/DiaryOfAWimpyKid'': No Brainer, Greg (who is Principal for a Day) tries to invoke this trope to stop two teachers from fighting over a laptop. Subverted in that the two teachers actually tore the laptop in half just so the other can’t have it.
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* In ''Israel's Golden Years'' (1986), an educational UsefulNotes/AppleII and UsefulNotes/Commodore64 game in ''The Baker Street Kids'' series based on Literature/TheBible, the titular kids [[https://cdn.mobygames.com/screenshots/10952579-israels-golden-years-apple-ii-solomons-wisdom.png enact the judgment of King Solomon]] in the "Solomon's Wisdom" segment, with some doll (as the baby) held up with a pretend knife to it for some reason.
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* Used in Creator/LeoFrankowski's ''Cross-Time Engineer'' series. Conrad Stargard, the titular engineer, becomes a feudal lord, and is asked to arbitrate a dispute. A man and his neighbor each owned a pig, and one day, they only found one pig. They both claim it is theirs. Conrad agrees with both of them, and tells them the court cost from each of them is half a pig. They divide the pig between them, and later give Conrad the other pig when it is found.

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* Used in Creator/LeoFrankowski's ''Cross-Time Engineer'' ''Literature/ConradStargard'' series. Conrad Stargard, the The titular engineer, engineer becomes a feudal lord, and is asked to arbitrate a dispute. A man and his neighbor each owned a pig, and one day, they only found one pig. They both claim it is theirs. Conrad agrees with both of them, and tells them the court cost from each of them is half a pig. They divide the pig between them, and later give Conrad the other pig when it is found.
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*The lore for the ''VideoGame/JustAfterTheEnd'' mod for ''VideoGame/CrusaderKingsII'' had a case where Dalton Aureus, king of Gran Francisco, was asked to resolve a dispute over church property between competing Christian sects. After hearing the cases from both sides, Dalton stood and asked the two sides if they were willing to share the property. When both refused, Dalton declared that since neither side could agree, he would have the church demolished and the sects could build two new churches on the property. With that, one of the sects quietly relented, as they could not bear the cost if the church was demolished, while the other persisted. Dalton instantly awarded the property to the relenting sect, as the other could afford to build another church.
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* Jokingly referenced by Potter in an episode of ''Series/{{MASH}}'' when the doctors are squabbling over who gets to give a baby a checkup. He declares that he's going to make a "Solomon-like" decision -- "cut Winchester in half, ignore [Hawkeye and BJ], and do it myself."
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* Parodied in an episode of ''WesternAnimation/{{Histeria}}'' King Solomon gets presented with the two women claiming to be the mother, and he suggests (like in the original) cutting the baby in half. ''Both'' women react with disgust, declare they're not the mother, and leave, forcing Solomon to take ownership of the baby. To make it worse, neither of the two women claimed to be the mother in the first place; Solomon's guards just picked up two random women off the street.

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* Parodied in an episode of ''WesternAnimation/{{Histeria}}'' King Solomon gets presented with the two women claiming alleged to be the mother, and he suggests (like in the original) cutting the baby in half. ''Both'' women react with disgust, declare they're not the mother, and leave, forcing Solomon to take ownership of the baby. To make it worse, neither of the two women claimed to be the mother in the first place; Solomon's guards just picked up two random women off the street.
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* On ''Series/WelcomeFreshmen'', vice-principal Mr. Lippman sees two girls fighting over a textbook and has a fantasy of the three of them acting out the story from the Bible. After this, he takes the textbook and a handsaw and offers to cut it in half. The girls don't care that much about the book and leave as Lippman continues obliviously sawing away. [[SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome Then his secretary catches him and scolds him for vandalizing school property, telling him the book will be coming out of his salary.]]
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* Subverted in ''Manga/RanmaOneHalf''. Akane and Shampoo try to drag Ranma in different directions, and Mousse says it reminds him of a story about an old ruler who, when presented with two mothers fighting over a baby, told the mothers to have a tug of war, with the winner getting the child. But the mother's love was strong in both of them... so the child was ripped apart and nobody lived happily ever after.

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* Subverted Mousse directly references the Judgment of Ooka in ''Manga/RanmaOneHalf''. ''Manga/RanmaOneHalf'', upon seeing Akane and Shampoo try to drag Ranma in different directions, and Mousse says it reminds him of a story about an old ruler who, when presented with two mothers fighting over a baby, told directions. After the mothers to have a tug of war, with usual setup, though, his version [[BlackComedy rapidly goes off the winner getting the child. But rails]], saying the mother's love was strong in both of them... so the child was ripped apart and nobody lived happily ever after. Note that he considers this a ''good'' ending, because it means [[MurderTheHypotenuse death (or at least lots of humiliating pain)]] for his hated rival Ranma.

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** Note as well that the original tale can actually be seen as a parable, as Solomon was at war with one of his brothers at the time; the baby was Israel, the sword was war, Solomon was the false mother and his brother was represented by the real mother. The message was "If you don't want me to split the kingdom, give it up." It worked.

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** Note as well that Also, the original tale can actually be seen as a parable, as Solomon was at war with one of his brothers at the time; the baby was Israel, the sword was war, Solomon was the false mother and his brother was represented by the real mother. The message was "If you don't want me to split the kingdom, give it up." It worked.



* {{Discussed|Trope}} in ''Series/LawAndOrderSpecialVictimsUnit''. In a case concerning the custody of a child, Stabler mentions [[Literature/TheBible King Solomon]], and the DA counters that she can't literally split the child. Stabler points out [[TakeAThirdOption Solomon didn't have to, either.]]
** To elaborate: A child kidnapping victim was found to be the biological daughter of the woman who orchestrated the kidnapping, who initially believed that the child was actually her deceased daughter; she was actually that child's genetic sibling, implanted into another mother as part of a fraud scheme being run by the IVF clinic both women used. The child was raised by her surrogate mother, who gave birth to her. Once it's revealed that the child is genetically hers, the mother uses this as a kidnapping defense and indicates her intention to sue for custody if she's acquitted. When the child takes the stand, Casey purposely upsets her so much that the mother agrees to plead guilty and stop pursuing custody.[[note]]In this case, it wasn't to determine which mother would get the child, since they don't have the authority to decide that question; the relevant part was the idea that the mother would love the girl enough to do what was best for her, even if that meant giving her up.[[/note]]

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* {{Discussed|Trope}} in ''Series/LawAndOrderSpecialVictimsUnit''. In a case concerning the custody of a child, Stabler mentions [[Literature/TheBible King Solomon]], and the DA counters that she can't literally split the child. Stabler points out [[TakeAThirdOption Solomon didn't have to, either.]]
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]] A child kidnapping victim was found to be the biological daughter of the woman who orchestrated the kidnapping, who initially believed that the child was actually her deceased daughter; she was actually that child's genetic sibling, implanted into another mother as part of a fraud scheme being run by the IVF clinic both women used. The child was raised by her surrogate mother, who gave birth to her. Once it's revealed that the child is genetically hers, the mother uses this as a kidnapping defense and indicates her intention to sue for custody if she's acquitted. When the child takes the stand, Casey purposely upsets her so much that the mother agrees to plead guilty and stop pursuing custody.[[note]]In this case, it wasn't to determine which mother would get the child, since they don't have the authority to decide that question; the relevant part was the idea that the mother would love the girl enough to do what was best for her, even if that meant giving her up.[[/note]]



* Subverted in ''Series/TheCosbyShow'' of all things. Rudy and Olivia are arguing over who gets to play with a toy. Vanessa suggests cutting it in half, so Rudy and Olivia then argue over who gets which half!

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* Subverted in ''Series/TheCosbyShow'' of all things.''Series/TheCosbyShow''. Rudy and Olivia are arguing over who gets to play with a toy. Vanessa suggests cutting it in half, so Rudy and Olivia then argue over who gets which half!



* ''Radio/JohnFinnemoresSouvenirProgramme'': Both women object to cutting up the baby, leaving Solomon to scramble for a different solution. He asks them each what the baby's name is, but of course doesn't know which name is correct. Then he tries asking what color the baby's eyes are, which both answer correctly. [[spoiler: He works it out in the end--one of the women forgets what she said the baby's name was, exposing herself as the liar.]]

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* ''Radio/JohnFinnemoresSouvenirProgramme'': Both women object to cutting up the baby, leaving Solomon to scramble for a different solution. He asks them each what the baby's name is, but of course doesn't know which name is correct. Then he tries asking what color the baby's eyes are, which both answer correctly. [[spoiler: He works it out in the end--one of the women forgets what she said the baby's name was, exposing herself as the liar.]]
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* ''Webcomic/DumbingOfAge'': Both Joyce and Walky want the write a daily comic strip, but there's only one spot. Daisy suggests they split the days. Walky agrees, but Joyce demands all or nothing. Daisy gives it to her, as she clearly cares more. "I just ''Solomoned'' your asses." Walky points out that her suggestion was a ''perfectly valid compromise'', and shouldn't have been a test.

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* ''Webcomic/DumbingOfAge'': Both Joyce and Walky want the to write a daily comic strip, but there's only one spot. Daisy suggests they split the days. Walky agrees, but Joyce demands all or nothing. Daisy gives it to her, as she clearly cares more. "I just ''Solomoned'' your asses." Walky points out that her suggestion was a ''perfectly valid compromise'', and shouldn't have been a test.
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* In ''VideoGame/CrusaderKingsIII'', when playing with the ''Royal Court'' expansion every so often you're forced to reenact the story when playing as a King or Emperor. Typically you can either pick one of the two mothers at random, or TakeAThirdOption and [[PetTheDog raise the child as your own]] (upsetting your family and vassals as they'll have the same inheritance rights as your actual children). However, with a high Learning skill your character actually remembers the original story and resolves it the same way Solomon did. Alternatively, if your character has [[TheCaligula the Callous trait]], you can ''actually'' split the baby in half and be HatedByAll.

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* Done in an episode of ''Series/{{Dinosaurs}}'', in which the baby is cut in half and then put back together in a weird cross between this trope and [[ItMakesSenseInContext Vegas-style stage magic]].



* Shows up in ''Series/LazyTown'', of all places. The episode "Who's Who?" features Robbie Rotten making a perfect robotic clone of Stephanie from a toy lookalike, and [[SpotTheImpostor the citizens of the town can't tell which is the real one.]] A dance-off is suggested, with Robbie, Mayor Meanswell, and Bessie Busybody as judges. The clone goes first and ends her routine with a stylish jump move; Stephanie then takes her turn with a similar routine, but doesn't do a jump. The judges think that the true Stephanie must be the first one, because her dancing was better, but Trixie realizes that only the ''real'' Stephanie would have enough self-confidence and faith in her friends' ability to know the truth to deliberately leave out a move she could easily do. This convinces Ms. Busybody and the Mayor, but not Robbie--thankfully, though, the clone turns back into its original toy form at that moment, so the question is settled. Stephanie still thanks Trixie for speaking up and figuring out her plan.


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* Done in an episode of ''Series/{{Dinosaurs}}'', in which the baby is cut in half and then put back together in a weird cross between this trope and [[ItMakesSenseInContext Vegas-style stage magic]].
* Shows up in ''Series/LazyTown'', of all places. The episode "Who's Who?" features Robbie Rotten making a perfect robotic clone of Stephanie from a toy lookalike, and [[SpotTheImpostor the citizens of the town can't tell which is the real one.]] A dance-off is suggested, with Robbie, Mayor Meanswell, and Bessie Busybody as judges. The clone goes first and ends her routine with a stylish jump move; Stephanie then takes her turn with a similar routine, but doesn't do a jump. The judges think that the true Stephanie must be the first one, because her dancing was better, but Trixie realizes that only the ''real'' Stephanie would have enough self-confidence and faith in her friends' ability to know the truth to deliberately leave out a move she could easily do. This convinces Ms. Busybody and the Mayor, but not Robbie--thankfully, though, the clone turns back into its original toy form at that moment, so the question is settled. Stephanie still thanks Trixie for speaking up and figuring out her plan.
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* ''Webcomic/DumbingOfAge'': Both Joyce and Walky want the write a daily comic strip, but there's only one spot. Daisy suggests they split the days. Walky agrees, but Joyce demands all or nothing. Daisy gives it to her, as she clearly cares more. "I just ''Solomoned'' your asses." Walky points out that her suggestion was a ''perfectly valid compromise'', and shouldn't have been a test.
-->'''Walky:''' Solomon was about a ''baby!'' I was just trying to be nice!
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You're either the ruler of the land, or someone else whose job is to arbitrate between people. Either way, you have a problem. There is an object whose true ownership is under dispute. [[AliceAndBob Alice says it is hers, and Bob says it is his.]] This is usually a living thing, such as a baby. How do you figure out the true owner? Threaten to destroy the object (traditionally by cutting it in half and giving one half to each claimant, in the knowledge that half of it is no good to either of them).

In the end, Alice would rather see it given up to Bob than have it destroyed, and Bob is all too happy to receive it (or, alternatively, Alice is the first to object). Alice is the real owner, revealed by her compassion.

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You're either the ruler of the land, or someone else whose job is to arbitrate between people. Either way, you have a problem. There is an object whose true ownership is under dispute. [[AliceAndBob Alice says it is hers, and Bob says it is his.]] This is usually a living live thing, such as a pet or a baby. How do you figure out the true owner? Threaten to destroy resolve the dispute by dividing the object (traditionally by cutting it in half with a sword) and giving one half to each claimant, in claimant.

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* The Judgment of Solomon is a story from Literature/TheBible. The story recounts that two mothers living in the same house, each the mother of an infant son, came to King Solomon. One of the babies had died, and each claimed the remaining boy as her own. Calling for a sword, Solomon declared his judgment: the baby would be cut in two, each woman to receive half. One mother thought the ruling fair, but the other begged Solomon, "Give the baby to her, just don't kill him!" The king declared the second woman the true mother (in either the literal or metaphorical sense), as a (good) mother would even give up her baby if that was necessary to save its life. This judgment became known throughout all of Israel and was considered an example of profound wisdom.

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* The Judgment of Solomon is a story from Literature/TheBible. The story recounts that two mothers living in the same house, each the mother of an infant son, came to King Solomon. One of the babies had died, and each claimed the remaining boy live baby as her own. Calling for a sword, Solomon declared his judgment: the baby live and dead babies would be cut in two, each woman to receive half. two halves. One mother thought the ruling fair, but the other begged Solomon, "Give the baby to her, just don't kill him!" The king declared the second woman her the true mother (in either the literal or metaphorical sense), as a (good) mother would even give up her baby if that was necessary to save its life. This judgment became known throughout all of Israel and was considered an example of profound wisdom.
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* An odd variation in the final episode of ''Anime/SteelAngelKurumi Encore''. A contest is held between the Steel Angels as to who will have Nakahito as their master and it's down to Kurumi and a mysterious masked Angel. At the end of the race, the two snag Nakahito and begin a tug of war as they race towards a finish line. Nakahito cries out in pain and Kurumi, frightened for her master's safety, lets go. Because of this, Kurumi is declared the winner. Then, we find out that the mysterious Angel wasn't an Angel at all [[spoiler:but one of the two spies working for the government who had a somewhat unhealthy fixation on him, so she would have lost any way!]]

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* An odd variation in the final episode of ''Anime/SteelAngelKurumi ''Manga/SteelAngelKurumi Encore''. A contest is held between the Steel Angels as to who will have Nakahito as their master and it's down to Kurumi and a mysterious masked Angel. At the end of the race, the two snag Nakahito and begin a tug of war as they race towards a finish line. Nakahito cries out in pain and Kurumi, frightened for her master's safety, lets go. Because of this, Kurumi is declared the winner. Then, we find out that the mysterious Angel wasn't an Angel at all [[spoiler:but one of the two spies working for the government who had a somewhat unhealthy fixation on him, so she would have lost any way!]]
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* A variation appears in an episode of ''Series/TheMentalist''. A wealthy investment banker has been murdered over $10 million in diamonds, and suspicion comes down to either the victim's wife or his mistress as to which one was involved. His daughter has been kidnapped, however, and Patrick sets up a scenario where each woman is faced with a choice where they have to either save the daughter or acquire the diamonds. [[spoiler: The mistress goes for the daughter, the wife for the diamonds.]]

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* A variation appears in an episode of ''Series/TheMentalist''. A wealthy investment banker has been murdered over $10 million in diamonds, and suspicion comes down to either the victim's wife or his mistress as to which one was involved. His After his daughter has been is seemingly kidnapped, however, and Patrick sets up a scenario where each woman is faced with a choice where they have to either save stay with the daughter to protect her or acquire the diamonds. [[spoiler: The mistress goes for to the daughter, the wife for to the diamonds.]]
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* A variation appears in an episode of ''Series/TheMentalist''. A wealthy investment banker has been murdered, and suspicion comes down to either the victim's wife or his mistress as to which one was involved. His daughter has been kidnapped, however, and Patrick sets up a scenario where each woman is faced with a choice where they have to either save the daughter or acquire about $10 million worth of diamonds. [[spoiler: The mistress goes for the daughter, the wife for the diamonds.]]

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* In one episode of ''Series/UnderTheUmbrellaTree'', Gloria, Iggy and Jacob have trouble sharing their new rocking horse, so Holly proposes sawing the horse into three pieces and giving one to each of them. This stops their bickering and makes them realize they would rather share the horse than give it up.
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* In ''ComicBook/BatmanNoMansLand'', Batman finds himself in this situation between two mothers and a baby. [[spoiler:The classic solution doesn't work at all, making Bats go figure out a new solution.]]
* Parodied in one issue of ''ComicBook/SheHulk'' where the titular heroine becomes a cosmic judge. A mother and father alien present the classic problem to her, each wanting to raise their child under a different religion, but when she begins to explain the process the father quickly slashes the child in two. Fortunately it turns out these aliens can subdivide and regenerate so her decision creates a new child for each parent

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