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24th Oct '16 6:13:16 AM rwe1138
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* In ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'', there was Ned Flanders' ultra-gory retelling of Bible stories that had Solomon actually cutting the baby in half himself before either can say anything, and then killing himself after he [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone realized what he just did]]. By cutting himself in half.
** This trope inspired Reverend Lovejoy to come up with a solution when he and his wife were fighting with Homer and Marge over a mattress that somehow seems to invigorate the sex life of any couple that sleeps in it. Marge's only complaint was that Lovejoy cut the mattress diagonally, making it look like a grilled cheese sandwich.
** {{Parodied|Trope}} in the episode "[[Recap/TheSimpsonsS10E18SimpsonsBibleStories Simpson Bible Stories]]", where Homer as King Solomon cuts a pie that Lenny and Carl were fighting over, only to withdraw the halves from them and sentence them to death while he eats the pie.

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* In ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'', there was Ned Flanders' ultra-gory retelling of Bible stories that had Solomon actually cutting the baby in half himself before either can say anything, and then killing himself after he [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone realized what he just did]]. By cutting himself in half.
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''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'' this trope inspired Reverend Lovejoy to come up with a solution when he and his wife were fighting with Homer and Marge over a mattress that somehow seems to invigorate the sex life of any couple that sleeps in it. Marge's only complaint was that Lovejoy cut the mattress diagonally, making it look like a grilled cheese sandwich.
** {{Parodied|Trope}} in the episode "[[Recap/TheSimpsonsS10E18SimpsonsBibleStories Simpson Bible Stories]]", where Homer as King Solomon cuts a pie that Lenny and Carl were fighting over, only to withdraw the halves from them and sentence them to death while he eats the pie.
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* Subverted horrifyingly by the Emperor in ''ComicBook/{{Fables}}''. When asked by two brothers to rule on a dispute caused by the fact that they disagree on how to administrate the land they inherited but can't divide it on their own, instead of granting the division, the Emperor says that because strong families are the foundation of the Empire, he will remove the material things that separate the brothers. I.E. commanding that the land and property be forfeited to the Empire and the servants and tenants of the land killed.



* Subverted horrifyingly by the Emperor in ''ComicBook/{{Fables}}''. When asked by two brothers to rule on a dispute caused by the fact that they disagree on how to administrate the land they inherited but can't divide it on their own, instead of granting the division, the Emperor says that because strong families are the foundation of the Empire, he will remove the material things that separate the brothers. I.E. commanding that the land and property be forfeited to the Empire and the servants and tenants of the land killed.

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* Subverted horrifyingly by the Emperor in ''ComicBook/{{Fables}}''. When asked by two brothers to rule on a dispute caused by the fact that they disagree on how to administrate the land they inherited but can't divide it on their own, instead of granting the division, the Emperor says that because strong families are the foundation of the Empire, he will remove the material things that separate the brothers. I.E. commanding that the land and property be forfeited to the Empire and the servants and tenants of the land killed.
29th Sep '16 7:05:53 AM Morgenthaler
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* Done in ''LawrenceOfArabia'' though the possession in dispute was Tribal Honor rather then a material one. An Arab warrior from one tribe murders one from another. For the murderer not to be executed would shame the wronged tribe; For the wronged tribe to execute the murderer would simply escalate the CycleOfRevenge. To fend off the dispute, Lawrence, to his distaste, personally carries out the execution because he has no local connections and therefore no one can take offense.

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* Done in ''LawrenceOfArabia'' ''Film/LawrenceOfArabia'' though the possession in dispute was Tribal Honor rather then a material one. An Arab warrior from one tribe murders one from another. For the murderer not to be executed would shame the wronged tribe; For the wronged tribe to execute the murderer would simply escalate the CycleOfRevenge. To fend off the dispute, Lawrence, to his distaste, personally carries out the execution because he has no local connections and therefore no one can take offense.



* Played straight in Book V of ''TheFaerieQueene'', when Arthegall, Knight of Justice, arbitrates a dispute between a squire and a knight over a woman (who is apparently incapable of telling them herself). It turns out the knight kidnapped the woman (and killed his own girlfriend when she objected to his running off with her) and is subsequently sentenced to carry her severed head around for a year as punishment.

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* Played straight in Book V of ''TheFaerieQueene'', ''Literature/TheFaerieQueene'', when Arthegall, Knight of Justice, arbitrates a dispute between a squire and a knight over a woman (who is apparently incapable of telling them herself). It turns out the knight kidnapped the woman (and killed his own girlfriend when she objected to his running off with her) and is subsequently sentenced to carry her severed head around for a year as punishment.



* ''SaluteYourShorts'': ZZ and Dina each claim ownership of a frog, Wartbreath. Budnick, acting as counselor, follows the Ooka Tadasuke example and gives the frog to ZZ when she lets Dina take Wartbreath because he could see "ZZ couldn't bear to harm the little croaker." However, he confesses the handbook he took the idea from "would have given the frog to Dina. This was my answer."

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* ''SaluteYourShorts'': ''Series/SaluteYourShorts'': ZZ and Dina each claim ownership of a frog, Wartbreath. Budnick, acting as counselor, follows the Ooka Tadasuke example and gives the frog to ZZ when she lets Dina take Wartbreath because he could see "ZZ couldn't bear to harm the little croaker." However, he confesses the handbook he took the idea from "would have given the frog to Dina. This was my answer."



* One of the quests in ''DungeonSiege III'' has you settle a land dispute between a Goblin baron and a human landowner. You can tell them to just split the land and deal with it and they'll agree, though neither are terribly happy about it (and the Goblin notes that this is a coward's choice).

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* One of the quests in ''DungeonSiege ''VideoGame/DungeonSiege III'' has you settle a land dispute between a Goblin baron and a human landowner. You can tell them to just split the land and deal with it and they'll agree, though neither are terribly happy about it (and the Goblin notes that this is a coward's choice).



* ''TerrorIsland'' [[http://www.terrorisland.net/strips/053.html does this]] with a lawnmower. They both get the whole thing, though.

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* ''TerrorIsland'' ''Webcomic/TerrorIsland'' [[http://www.terrorisland.net/strips/053.html does this]] with a lawnmower. They both get the whole thing, though.



* ''{{Irritability}}'' [[http://maze.icomix.com/comicpage/browse.php?index=224 subverts]] this by having both characters agree to have the cat cut in half.

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* ''{{Irritability}}'' ''Webcomic/{{Irritability}}'' [[http://maze.icomix.com/comicpage/browse.php?index=224 subverts]] this by having both characters agree to have the cat cut in half.
1st Aug '16 10:58:40 AM Griffonmender
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* Used in Leo Frankowski's ''Cross-Time Engineer'' series. Conrad Stargard, the titular engineer, becomes a feudal lord, and and is asked to arbitrate a dispute. A man and his neighbor each owned a pig, and one day, they only found one pig. They both claim it is theirs. Conrad agrees with both of them, and tells them the court cost from each of them is half a pig. They divide the pig between them, and later give Conrad the other pig when it is found.

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* Used in Leo Frankowski's ''Cross-Time Engineer'' series. Conrad Stargard, the titular engineer, becomes a feudal lord, and and is asked to arbitrate a dispute. A man and his neighbor each owned a pig, and one day, they only found one pig. They both claim it is theirs. Conrad agrees with both of them, and tells them the court cost from each of them is half a pig. They divide the pig between them, and later give Conrad the other pig when it is found.
7th Jul '16 9:01:30 AM Chabal2
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* In ''Discworld/{{Pyramids}}'', Pteppic, elevated to Pharoah of Djelibeybi, is confronted with the need to make a Solomonic judgement over ownership of a bull which has fattened on two farmers' pastures. Thinking that his decision will be remembered for ages, he is about to speak when the High Priest Dios gets in first and makes the ruling. Apparently the Pharoah is merely the figurehead who legitimizes decisions made by others, i.e. by Dios. Dios's decision is that the bull should go to the more pious man, and he should immediately sacrifice it to the gods.

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* In ''Discworld/{{Pyramids}}'', Pteppic, elevated to Pharoah of Djelibeybi, is confronted with the need to make a Solomonic judgement over ownership of a bull which has fattened on two farmers' pastures. Thinking that his decision will be remembered for ages, he is about to speak when makes his judgement known, which confuses the claimants. The High Priest Dios gets in first and makes the ruling.ruling clearer. Apparently the Pharoah is merely the figurehead who legitimizes decisions made by others, i.e. by Dios. Dios's decision is that the bull should go to the more pious man, and he should immediately sacrifice it to the gods.
30th May '16 5:39:29 PM WillKeaton
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* Also done in an episode of ''WesternAnimation/CaptainNTheGameMaster'' where Princess Lana had to make a judgement over ownership of a cow (the challenger claimed that he should have ownership of the cow over its original owner since the animal grazed on his land). When she proposed to dividing the cow, ''neither'' claimant wanted to give up their half. The matter was settled peacefully in the end (and without Lana's mediation), however, when the two disputants agreed to divide the cow's dairy products.

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* Also done in an episode of ''WesternAnimation/CaptainNTheGameMaster'' where Princess Lana had to make a judgement over ownership of a cow (the cow. The challenger claimed that he should have ownership of the cow over its original owner since the animal grazed on his land).land. When she proposed to dividing the cow, ''neither'' claimant wanted to give up their half. The matter was settled peacefully in the end end, (and without Lana's mediation), mediation,) however, when the two disputants agreed to divide the cow's dairy products.
30th May '16 5:37:43 PM WillKeaton
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* Subverted in a story from the ComicBook/BatmanNoMansLand [[BatFamilyCrossover bat-crossover]] with an actual baby that two women lay claim to, but neither of whom is the child's real mother, who entrusted the child to the first woman when she (the mother) was near death and when she set the baby down to get something, the second woman found the baby and assumed the first woman had abandoned it. The "real" and "false" mother ''both'' react with horror at Batman's suggestion. Batman's second proposal is that if they care about the child they can learn to look after it together, since in No Man's Land, everyone needs to stick together to survive. This gets through to them and they learn to become friends.

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* Subverted in a story from the ComicBook/BatmanNoMansLand ''ComicBook/BatmanNoMansLand'' [[BatFamilyCrossover bat-crossover]] with an actual baby that two women lay claim to, but neither of whom is the child's real mother, who entrusted the child to the first woman when she (the mother) was near death and when she set the baby down to get something, the second woman found the baby and assumed the first woman had abandoned it. The "real" and "false" mother ''both'' react with horror at Batman's suggestion. Batman's second proposal is that if they care about the child they can learn to look after it together, since in No Man's Land, everyone needs to stick together to survive. This gets through to them and they learn to become friends.



* The Israeli skit show ''Makom liDeaga'' [[http://10tv.nana10.co.il/Article/?ArticleID=568498 re-enacts the judgement given]], but the women say nothing... and the baby is cut. After a short pause of horror, one woman starts calling Solomon a murderer, slowly saying it louder and louder until she screams at him repeatedly in hysteria and has to be taken out. Solomon says in embarrassment, "[[CrossingTheLineTwice Well, I guess the one screaming was the mother... Wasn’t she?]]"

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* The Israeli skit show ''Makom liDeaga'' [[http://10tv.nana10.co.il/Article/?ArticleID=568498 re-enacts the judgement given]], given,]] but the women say nothing... and the baby is cut. After a short pause of horror, one woman starts calling Solomon a murderer, slowly saying it louder and louder until she screams at him repeatedly in hysteria and has to be taken out. Solomon says in embarrassment, "[[CrossingTheLineTwice Well, I guess the one screaming was the mother... Wasn’t she?]]"
30th May '16 6:58:58 AM TheOneWhoTropes
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* Used in an episode of ''{{Seinfeld}}'', when Kramer is decided to be the true owner of a bicycle (as he didn't want to see it ruined) when Newman uses this logic to decide whether the true owner is Kramer or Elaine (who was fed up with the entire argument and willing to take half of the bike).

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* Used in an episode of ''{{Seinfeld}}'', ''Series/{{Seinfeld}}'', when Kramer is decided to be the true owner of a bicycle (as he didn't want to see it ruined) when Newman uses this logic to decide whether the true owner is Kramer or Elaine (who was fed up with the entire argument and willing to take half of the bike).
20th May '16 5:38:51 AM WillBGood
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* Used a bit late in one of Creator/AgathaChristie's Tommy and Tuppence novels: a strange foreign woman has kidnapped an Englishwoman's daughter, and is pursued to the edge of a cliff. The woma is holding the kid tightly, but the Englishwoman takes the shot, killing her. Later it's discovered [[spoiler:spoiler:the Englishwoman was a traitor spying for the Nazis, and the other woman was the girl's real mother. Tuppence realizes this as no mother would willingly endanger her ''own'' child like that.]]

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* Used a bit late in one of Creator/AgathaChristie's Tommy and Tuppence novels: a strange foreign woman has kidnapped an Englishwoman's daughter, and is pursued to the edge of a cliff. The woma foreigner is holding the kid tightly, but the Englishwoman takes the shot, killing her. Later it's discovered [[spoiler:spoiler:the [[spoiler: the Englishwoman was a traitor spying for the Nazis, and the other woman was the girl's real mother. Tuppence realizes this as no mother would willingly endanger her ''own'' child like that.]]
24th Mar '16 5:53:01 PM nombretomado
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* Subverted in ''TheCosbyShow'' of all things. Rudy and Olivia are arguing over who gets to play with a toy. Vanessa suggests cutting it in half, so Rudy and Olivia then argue over who gets which half!

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* Subverted in ''TheCosbyShow'' ''Series/TheCosbyShow'' of all things. Rudy and Olivia are arguing over who gets to play with a toy. Vanessa suggests cutting it in half, so Rudy and Olivia then argue over who gets which half!



* Happens in an episode of ''TheDrewCareyShow'' where Drew is studying the Bible. Two of his coworkers get into an argument over who owns a cat and Drew proposes to cut the cat in half, even taking out a pocket knife in the process. Both women are immediately horrified at his suggestion and leave.

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* Happens in an episode of ''TheDrewCareyShow'' ''Series/TheDrewCareyShow'' where Drew is studying the Bible. Two of his coworkers get into an argument over who owns a cat and Drew proposes to cut the cat in half, even taking out a pocket knife in the process. Both women are immediately horrified at his suggestion and leave.
19th Mar '16 3:26:17 AM Hossmeister
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