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* [[TheRival Chick Hicks]] from ''WesternAnimation/{{Cars}}'' represents what Lightning [=McQueen=] would become if he continued to let his fame go to his head.
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* Done with Neo Nazism in ''American History X''.
* Done in ''Film/TheMuppetChristmasCarol'', of course. Worth mentioning because A) they give Jacob a brother, Robert, so they can give the role of Marley to both JustForFun/StatlerAndWaldorf, which allows them to B) sing a cool little song about it all. And C) [[StealthPun you get "Bob Marley"]]. (''Groan'')
* ''[[Film/TheKid2000 Disney's The Kid]]'' is a rather weird take on this trope...starting with the fact that it's told from the Jacob Marley's perspective. He gets chewed out by his younger self by giving up on their dreams.

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* %%* Done with Neo Nazism in ''American History X''.
* Done in ''Film/TheMuppetChristmasCarol'', of course. Worth mentioning because A) they give Jacob a brother, Robert, so they can give the role of Marley to both JustForFun/StatlerAndWaldorf, which allows them to B) sing a cool little song about it all. And C) [[StealthPun you get "Bob Marley"]]. (''Groan'')
* ''[[Film/TheKid2000 Disney's The Kid]]'' is a rather weird take on this trope... starting with the fact that it's told from the Jacob Marley's perspective. He gets chewed out by his younger self by giving up on their dreams.






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* In ''Literature/{{Frankenstein}}'', Victor serves as a warning to Walton, who is in danger of becoming as obsessed with his exploration as Victor was with the science that led to the creation of his monster.
** Though inverted in that he blasts Walton's crew for not having the balls to carry on on Walton's journey. Victor might represent what Walton could become, but unlike other examples he doesn't realize this, or regard it as a bad thing. He blames the Creature for all his ills but [[NeverMyFault doesn't take responsibility]] for the hell he put the Creature through ForScience.

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* In ''Literature/{{Frankenstein}}'', Victor serves as a warning to Walton, who is in danger of becoming as obsessed with his exploration as Victor was with the science that led to the creation of his monster.
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monster. Though inverted in that he blasts Walton's crew for not having the balls to carry on on Walton's journey. Victor might represent what Walton could become, but unlike other examples he doesn't realize this, or regard it as a bad thing. He blames the Creature for all his ills but [[NeverMyFault doesn't take responsibility]] for the hell he put the Creature through ForScience.
ForScience.



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* ''Series/StargateSG1''
** In the early episode "The Torment of Tantalus", Dr. Ernest Littlefield represents what would become of Daniel if he stayed on the planet and tried to figure out the Meaning Of Life Stuff.
** In the season ten episode "The Road Not Taken," Cameron tells Sam that she'll share her fate if she doesn't follow Landry's demands. [[spoiler:Subverted, as Sam speaks out against Landry anyway.]]

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* ''Series/StargateSG1''
''Series/StargateSG1'':
** In the early episode "The Torment of Tantalus", Dr. Ernest Littlefield represents what would become of Daniel if he stayed on the planet and tried to figure out the Meaning Of of Life Stuff.
** In the season ten episode "The Road Not Taken," Taken", Cameron tells Sam that she'll share her fate if she doesn't follow Landry's demands. [[spoiler:Subverted, as Sam speaks out against Landry anyway.]]



* ''Series/BoyMeetsWorld''[='=]s sequel series, ''GirlMeetsWorld'' sees Cory's former bully, Harley Keiner, work as a janitor as John Quincy Adams Middle School and regrets his actions as a bully, warning Billy when he's picking on Farkle and being willing to protect the latter.

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* ''Series/BoyMeetsWorld''[='=]s sequel series, ''GirlMeetsWorld'' ''Series/GirlMeetsWorld'' sees Cory's former bully, Harley Keiner, work as a janitor as John Quincy Adams Middle School and regrets his actions as a bully, warning Billy when he's picking on Farkle and being willing to protect the latter.






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-->Here's you boys, now take my advice
-->To America I'll have ye's not be going
-->There is nothing here but war, where the murderin' cannons roar
-->And I wish I was at home in dear old Dublin
** The song is even more poignant once the FridgeHorror sinks in: Paddy is dead and is giving his warning as a ghost.
* "House of the rising sun" has (in one of the various versions) the verse
-->Go tell my baby sister
-->Never do like I have done
-->To shun that house in New Orleans
-->They call the Rising Sun.

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-->Here's -->''Here's you boys, now take my advice
-->To
advice\\
To
America I'll have ye's not be going
-->There
going\\
There
is nothing here but war, where the murderin' cannons roar
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roar\\
And
I wish I was at home in dear old Dublin
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Dublin''
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The song is even more poignant once the FridgeHorror sinks in: in[=:=] Paddy is dead and is giving his warning as a ghost.
* "House of the rising sun" has (in one of the various versions) the verse
-->Go
verse:
-->''Go
tell my baby sister
-->Never
sister\\
Never
do like I have done
-->To
done\\
To
shun that house in New Orleans
-->They
Orleans\\
They
call the Rising Sun.''



-->As the riders loped on by him he heard one call his name,
-->If you want to save your soul from hell a-ridin' on our range,
-->Then cowboy change your ways today, or with us you will ride.
-->Trying to catch the devil's herd across this endless sky.

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-->As -->''As the riders loped on by him he heard one call his name,
-->If
name,\\
If
you want to save your soul from hell a-ridin' on our range,
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range,\\
Then
cowboy change your ways today, or with us you will ride.
-->Trying
ride.\\
Trying
to catch the devil's herd across this endless sky.
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* In ''Theatre/TheLittleFoxes'', Birdie warns her niece-in-law Alexandra: "Don't love me. Because in twenty years you'll just be like me. They'll do all the same things to you."

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* In ''Theatre/TheLittleFoxes'', Birdie warns her niece-in-law Alexandra: "Don't love me. Because Done in twenty years you'll just be like me. They'll do all ''Film/TheMuppetChristmasCarol'', of course. Worth mentioning because A) they give Jacob a brother, Robert, so they can give the same things role of Marley to you."
both JustForFun/StatlerAndWaldorf, which allows them to B) sing a cool little song about it all. And C) [[StealthPun you get "Bob Marley"]]. (''Groan'')



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* [[spoiler:[[FutureBadass Archer]]]] of ''VisualNovel/FateStayNight''. When he's not trying to kill his past self, he's [[{{Anvilicious}} anviliciously]] [[{{Deconstruction}} deconstructing]] his ideals in an effort to ensure he doesn't make the same mistakes he did. This only comes up in two of the three [[MultipleEndings routes]]. In the first, he is eventually convinced that, even if it hurts, maybe he didn't make such a big mistake with his life. In the other, after seeing his past self has all but abandoned his ideals, he agrees to help him, committing a HeroicSacrifice and giving him the power he needs to succeed.

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* [[spoiler:[[FutureBadass Archer]]]] of ''VisualNovel/FateStayNight''. When he's not trying to kill his past self, he's [[{{Anvilicious}} anviliciously]] [[{{Deconstruction}} deconstructing]] his ideals In ''Theatre/TheLittleFoxes'', Birdie warns her niece-in-law Alexandra: "Don't love me. Because in an effort to ensure he doesn't make twenty years you'll just be like me. They'll do all the same mistakes he did. This only comes up in two of the three [[MultipleEndings routes]]. In the first, he is eventually convinced that, even if it hurts, maybe he didn't make such a big mistake with his life. In the other, after seeing his past self has all but abandoned his ideals, he agrees things to help him, committing a HeroicSacrifice and giving him the power he needs to succeed.you."
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* [[spoiler:[[FutureBadass Archer]]]] of ''VisualNovel/FateStayNight''. When he's not trying to kill his past self, he's [[{{Anvilicious}} anviliciously]] [[{{Deconstruction}} deconstructing]] his ideals in an effort to ensure he doesn't make the same mistakes he did. This only comes up in two of the three [[MultipleEndings routes]]. In the first, he is eventually convinced that, even if it hurts, maybe he didn't make such a big mistake with his life. In the other, after seeing his past self has all but abandoned his ideals, he agrees to help him, committing a HeroicSacrifice and giving him the power he needs to succeed.
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* Parodied in the "My Future Self 'n' Me" episode of WesternAnimation/SouthPark, where an organization hires actors to play kids future' selves to keep them from using drugs. It's also played straight at the end of the episode with Cartman.
** Not quite straight; the Future Cartman is a handsome and successful businessman who says that this is the big turning point in his life, and encourages his younger self to stay on the straight and narrow. Cartman, convinced that the guy is just another actor, resolves to be even ''more'' of a selfish jerk than he normally is. After he walks off, the Future Cartman changes into a fat slob.
*** So basically future-Cartman screwed ''himself'' over because he absolutely ''had'' to tell his younger self where he'd end up, even though it was presumably unnecessary in the first place? ... WhatAnIdiot.

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Parodied in the "My Future Self 'n' Me" episode of WesternAnimation/SouthPark, episode, where an organization hires actors to play kids future' selves to keep them from using drugs. drugs.
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It's also played (not quite) straight at the end of the episode with Cartman.
** Not quite straight; the
Cartman. The Future Cartman is a handsome and successful businessman who says that this is the big turning point in his life, and encourages his younger self to stay on the straight and narrow. Cartman, convinced that the guy is just another actor, resolves to be even ''more'' of a selfish jerk than he normally is. After he walks off, the Future Cartman changes into a fat slob.
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slob. So basically basically, future-Cartman screwed ''himself'' over because he absolutely ''had'' to tell his younger self where he'd end up, even though it was presumably unnecessary in the first place? ...place... WhatAnIdiot.



* [[TheRival Chick Hicks]] from ''Pixar/{{Cars}}'' represents what Lightning [=McQueen=] would become if he continued to let his fame go to his head.
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* ''WebVideo/EpicRapBattlesOfHistory'' has Donald Trump serve as this for Ebeneezer Scrooge in the series' 2013 ChristmasEpisode.
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* Franchise/StarWarsExpandedUniverse comics had an arc where the Emperor Reborn had Luke fall to the Dark Side and join him, apparently to try and limit what he could do, and indeed, the Emperor Reborn dressed Luke like his father, as seen in the pic for InTheBlood. And then Leia redeemed him, he tried and failed to kill the Emperor Reborn, and two volumes later finally managed it.



* ''Franchise/StarWars'':
** In the original trilogy, Darth Vader represents what would become of Luke if he turned to the Dark Side. This is made most clear when Luke battles an apparition of Vader on Dagobah which turns out to have his face. Later on, Luke nearly kills Vader, but stops himself when he realizes that [[IfYouKillHimYouWillBeJustLikeHim he is just one step away from becoming the next Vader]]. The Emperor [[NiceJobFixingItVillain helpfully]] points this out while trying to encourage him to do it, [[YourApprovalFillsMeWithShame ultimately spurring him to make the right decision]].
** Even more recently ''VideoGame/TheForceUnleashed'''s centralman is another representation of what Luke (and potentially Leia) would have been like if raised by Darth Vader.
** Franchise/StarWarsExpandedUniverse comics had an arc where the Emperor Reborn had Luke fall to the Dark Side and join him, apparently to try and limit what he could do, and indeed, the Emperor Reborn dressed Luke like his father, as seen in the pic for InTheBlood. And then Leia redeemed him, he tried and failed to kill the Emperor Reborn, and two volumes later finally managed it.

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* ''Franchise/StarWars'':
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''Franchise/StarWars'': In the original trilogy, Darth Vader represents what would become of Luke if he turned to the Dark Side. This is made most clear when Luke battles an apparition of Vader on Dagobah which turns out to have his face. Later on, Luke nearly kills Vader, but stops himself when he realizes that [[IfYouKillHimYouWillBeJustLikeHim he is just one step away from becoming the next Vader]]. The Emperor [[NiceJobFixingItVillain helpfully]] points this out while trying to encourage him to do it, [[YourApprovalFillsMeWithShame ultimately spurring him to make the right decision]].
** Even more recently ''VideoGame/TheForceUnleashed'''s centralman is another representation of what Luke (and potentially Leia) would have been like if raised by Darth Vader.
** Franchise/StarWarsExpandedUniverse comics had an arc where the Emperor Reborn had Luke fall to the Dark Side and join him, apparently to try and limit what he could do, and indeed, the Emperor Reborn dressed Luke like his father, as seen in the pic for InTheBlood. And then Leia redeemed him, he tried and failed to kill the Emperor Reborn, and two volumes later finally managed it.
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* Even more recently ''VideoGame/TheForceUnleashed'''s centralman is another representation of what Luke (and potentially Leia) would have been like if raised by Darth Vader.
25th Jan '17 6:44:50 AM Morgenthaler
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* In the original ''Franchise/StarWars'' trilogy, Darth Vader represents what would become of Luke if he turned to the Dark Side. This is made most clear when Luke battles an apparition of Vader on Dagobah which turns out to have his face. Later on, Luke nearly kills Vader, but stops himself when he realizes that [[IfYouKillHimYouWillBeJustLikeHim he is just one step away from becoming the next Vader]]. The Emperor [[NiceJobFixingItVillain helpfully]] points this out while trying to encourage him to do it, [[YourApprovalFillsMeWithShame ultimately spurring him to make the right decision]].

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* ''Franchise/StarWars'':
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In the original ''Franchise/StarWars'' trilogy, Darth Vader represents what would become of Luke if he turned to the Dark Side. This is made most clear when Luke battles an apparition of Vader on Dagobah which turns out to have his face. Later on, Luke nearly kills Vader, but stops himself when he realizes that [[IfYouKillHimYouWillBeJustLikeHim he is just one step away from becoming the next Vader]]. The Emperor [[NiceJobFixingItVillain helpfully]] points this out while trying to encourage him to do it, [[YourApprovalFillsMeWithShame ultimately spurring him to make the right decision]].
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* Duke Edmun Dragonsbane from ''VideoGame/DragonsDogma'' turns out to be this. He initially comes over as a man who has everything he wanted, in the form of fame, power, riches and a beautiful wife. But he is soon revealed to abuse his wife, nearly killing her and is frequently reliving losing his past beloved. [[spoiler: When the PlayerCharacter confronts the titular Dragon, they are given a SadisticChoice. Either sacrifice their beloved, which will make the Dragon leave, giving the PlayerCharacter the fame and fortune as an alleged Dragonslayer, or face the Dragon in combat, which will almost certainly result in death.]] It turns out the duke experienced the ultimatum and chose the former, resulting in him being mad with guilt. This point is hammered in further, because making the former choice yourself shows you[[spoiler: the PlayerCharacter having replaced Edmun Dragonsbane as duke, but living a lonely and maddening existence.]]
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* Chick Hicks from Cars represents what Lightning [=McQueen=] would become if he continued to let his fame go to his head.

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* [[TheRival Chick Hicks Hicks]] from Cars ''Pixar/{{Cars}}'' represents what Lightning [=McQueen=] would become if he continued to let his fame go to his head.
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** Though inverted in that he blasts Walton's crew for not having the balls to carry on on Walton's journey. Victor might represent what Walton could become, but unlike other examples he doesn't realize this, or regard it as a bad thing. He blames the Creature for all his ills but doesn't take responsibility for the hell he put the Creature through ForScience.

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** Though inverted in that he blasts Walton's crew for not having the balls to carry on on Walton's journey. Victor might represent what Walton could become, but unlike other examples he doesn't realize this, or regard it as a bad thing. He blames the Creature for all his ills but [[NeverMyFault doesn't take responsibility responsibility]] for the hell he put the Creature through ForScience.
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* In the original ''Franchise/StarWars'' trilogy, Darth Vader represents what would become of Luke if he turned to the Dark Side. This is made most clear when Luke battles an apparition of Vader on Dagobah which turns out to have his face. Later on, Luke nearly kills Vader, but stops himself when he realizes that [[IfYouKillHimYouWillBeJustLikeHim he is just one step away from becoming the next Vader]]. The Emperor helpfully points this out just to make sure Luke is [[{{Anvilicious}} absolutely clear]] on what choice he would be making.

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* In the original ''Franchise/StarWars'' trilogy, Darth Vader represents what would become of Luke if he turned to the Dark Side. This is made most clear when Luke battles an apparition of Vader on Dagobah which turns out to have his face. Later on, Luke nearly kills Vader, but stops himself when he realizes that [[IfYouKillHimYouWillBeJustLikeHim he is just one step away from becoming the next Vader]]. The Emperor helpfully [[NiceJobFixingItVillain helpfully]] points this out just while trying to encourage him to do it, [[YourApprovalFillsMeWithShame ultimately spurring him to make sure Luke is [[{{Anvilicious}} absolutely clear]] on what choice he would be making.the right decision]].
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